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Please explain what is wrong with the setup fee examplesus

The fish? Again?

Anon:

Please explain what is wrong with the setup fee examplesus

Well 15$/month != 150$, except if they do like magazines and shutdown during the summer.

That first one looks familiar

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Oops, getting a bit spammy now...

Yeah, I also don't get it. Isn't this just a rebate?
Pay 150$ up front and pay 15$ a month less. You save 30$.

Anon:

Please explain what is wrong with the setup fee examplesus

You're gambling whether you're going to be with them for more or less than 10 months. If more than 10 months, you save money by paying a chunk up from for "setup fee".

I like how I've submitted some pretty funny stuff and it never gets on here but the same stupid Flash error gets posted twice....

Yeah, I don't think there's anything wrong with the setup fee WTF. Fairly standard practice surely?

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I also don't see the problem with the hosting one. It seems you can opt to pay a setup fee, in which case they knock 10% of that setup fee off your monthly bill. Gosh, incentivizing customers to stay long-term without actually making them sign a complex contract with termination fees and all...WTF, indeed!

Jamie:

Yeah, I don't think there's anything wrong with the setup fee WTF. Fairly standard practice surely?

It's clearly a MBA WTF, not an IT WTF.

1. as far as I know this is from someone's computer while they're debugging... which is a reasonable place to see these errors
2. Not a WTF. You get a discount if you pay a lot up front... big effin' deal.
3. You don't have to flip the UPS over while it's plugged in...
5. Oooooh your in-house application has a minor visual WTF in it...
6. I guess bad translations are funny, but that's not a particularly funny translation
7. Can't say much to that without context...

GoatRider:

Anon:

Please explain what is wrong with the setup fee examplesus

You're gambling whether you're going to be with them for more or less than 10 months. If more than 10 months, you save money by paying a chunk up from for "setup fee".

Translation: Not a WTF

Worst. Error'd. Ever.

TheMugs:

Anon:

Please explain what is wrong with the setup fee examplesus

Well 15$/month != 150$, except if they do like magazines and shutdown during the summer.

What they're telling you is that if you pay $150 setup fee, then your monthly fee will be $15/month less. The more you pay upfront, the less your monthly fee will be. My hosting service does the same thing.

GoatRider:

Anon:

Please explain what is wrong with the setup fee examplesus

You're gambling whether you're going to be with them for more or less than 10 months. If more than 10 months, you save money by paying a chunk up from for "setup fee".

And that's a WTF because....?

TheMugs:

Anon:

Please explain what is wrong with the setup fee examplesus

Well 15$/month != 150$, except if they do like magazines and shutdown during the summer.

It does after 10 months. What's the problem? You save some money if you pay upfront. It would be stupid if it was pay $180 and we'll not off $15/month, unless the discount continued into the second year (which isn't clear from the screen shot).

I, too, see nothing wrong with the "setup fee" one, other than calling it a "setup free". Think of it more as a "one-time payment to join our discounted monthly fee plan". (Or like "points" on a mortgage.) After the 10th month, you save money.

Of course, the service may be so bad that you cancel long before then. :-)

Do you think Eric B asked to have his email address published?

That's exactly what it is. To answer an earlier poster, the discount does not end, ever. It's fairly standard in the hosting industry, although admittedly poorly worded. And we provide excellent service, so I don't think you'll be cancelling so soon.

Not Eric B:

Do you think Eric B asked to have his email address published?

TWTF is his real name is Eric Half-a-bee.

FuBar:

Not Eric B:

Do you think Eric B asked to have his email address published?

TWTF is his real name is Eric Half-a-bee.

Nice Monty Python reference there.

3. You don't have to flip the UPS over while it's plugged in...

But then again it's a UPS, it could still electrocute you...

Greg:

That's exactly what it is. To answer an earlier poster, the discount does not end, ever. It's fairly standard in the hosting industry, although admittedly poorly worded. And we provide excellent service, so I don't think you'll be cancelling so soon.

Of course, that's the problem, isn't it? The customer doesn't know if you provide excellent service or not until they've either (a): forked over a ton of money up front for "setup fees" or (b): are locked into a high monthly rate.

Or I suppose they could just take your word for it.

Holy Horrible Error'd Batman.

Come on guys, I prefer no post over one of such low quality.

butscha:

Yeah, I also don't get it. Isn't this just a rebate?
Pay 150$ up front and pay 15$ a month less. You save 30$.

Assuming you put that $150 under your pillow instead of putting it into a bank or any type of earning scenario for that matter.

Epon:

I like how I've submitted some pretty funny stuff and it never gets on here but the same stupid Flash error gets posted twice....

Apparently if you introduce an incomplete feature (like Tip-Of-The-Day) into your in-house application and then post it, you'll have better luck.

Yardik:

Holy Horrible Error'd Batman.

Come on guys, I prefer no post over one of such low quality.

Apparently not.

Did I just imagine reading ebrandel@yahoo.com?

Steve-O:

butscha:

Yeah, I also don't get it. Isn't this just a rebate?
Pay 150$ up front and pay 15$ a month less. You save 30$.

Assuming you put that $150 under your pillow instead of putting it into a bank or any type of earning scenario for that matter.

Well good on you if you can get 20% APR from a savings account in this economy. Not to mention that in the second year you'd be saving a cool $180. And another $180/year for each year after that.

anon:

Greg:

That's exactly what it is. To answer an earlier poster, the discount does not end, ever. It's fairly standard in the hosting industry, although admittedly poorly worded. And we provide excellent service, so I don't think you'll be cancelling so soon.

Of course, that's the problem, isn't it? The customer doesn't know if you provide excellent service or not until they've either (a): forked over a ton of money up front for "setup fees" or (b): are locked into a high monthly rate.

Or I suppose they could just take your word for it.

Sure, but if you cancel after 10 months, you'd break even compared to the no setup cost option. Unless the service is really tragically bad, I think it'd take more than 10 months to really fairly assess whether or not their service is up to scratch.

What's the deal with the UPS? I don't get it.

SunnyDay:

What's the deal with the UPS? I don't get it.

Because its a UPS, not a DOWNS

Technically it would only be about an 18% APR, since most accounts are compounded daily. It would be a 20% APY.

But, your point stands, Steve-O's comment was just idiotic, and as you said, since you're "making" $180 each year after the first, the APY keeps going up each year (70% after 2 years...)

Steve-O:

butscha:

Yeah, I also don't get it. Isn't this just a rebate?
Pay 150$ up front and pay 15$ a month less. You save 30$.

Assuming you put that $150 under your pillow instead of putting it into a bank or any type of earning scenario for that matter.

Yeah right. In this economic climate if you put in a savings account you lose about $27.50. If it stays in a checking account, you lose $29 and change. If you invest in the market, good luck to you.

frits:

Steve-O:

butscha:

Yeah, I also don't get it. Isn't this just a rebate?
Pay 150$ up front and pay 15$ a month less. You save 30$.

Assuming you put that $150 under your pillow instead of putting it into a bank or any type of earning scenario for that matter.

Yeah right. In this economic climate if you put in a savings account you lose about $27.50. If it stays in a checking account, you lose $29 and change. If you invest in the market, good luck to you.

Sounds like Steve-O is pitching his Ponzi scheme to TDWTF readership.

frits:

Steve-O:

butscha:

Yeah, I also don't get it. Isn't this just a rebate?
Pay 150$ up front and pay 15$ a month less. You save 30$.

Assuming you put that $150 under your pillow instead of putting it into a bank or any type of earning scenario for that matter.

Yeah right. In this economic climate if you put in a savings account you lose about $27.50. If it stays in a checking account, you lose $29 and change. If you invest in the market, good luck to you.

I'd rather put my money in a bucket with a small hole than one with a giant trap door built into the bottom of it.

Anon:

Please explain what is wrong with the setup fee examplesus

Exactly, they look sane to me, the savings is a discount on a monthly rate (not listed).

For a $350.00 up front fee your first year total cost would be $70.00 less then a $0.00 up front fee - paying for itself.

Year 2 and on would be $420.00/yr less then they would have otherwise been.

The "no setup fee" option is only worth it for a total engagement of less then 10 months, or if you are lacking start-up capital.

Surely a far better investment of your $150 would be to use it to pay the service charges necessary to get a Nigerian bank to transfer that $50 million that a mysterious stranger wants to give you.

Epon:

I like how I've submitted some pretty funny stuff and it never gets on here but the same stupid Flash error gets posted twice....

I am with you on that. WTF?

Sylver:

Epon:

I like how I've submitted some pretty funny stuff and it never gets on here but the same stupid Flash error gets posted twice....

I am with you on that. WTF?

So today's Error'd is an inside joke. The only people saying "WTF?" are those who have submitted stuff that's lots funnier than today's offerings but have yet to see them published. WTF?

Give a man a fish, he'll throw exceptions for a day.
Teach a man to fish, he'll throw exceptions for a lifetime!

frits:

I am a patient boy
I wait, I wait, I wait, I wait
My time is like water down a drain
Everybody's moving,
Everybody's moving,
Everybody's moving, moving, moving, moving
Please don't leave me to remain

In the waiting room
number calculating queue position
I cannot use it
number calculating queue position

i won't make the same mistakes (as thedailywtf)
because i know how much time that wastes

I've been with Liquid Web for some time and I've been very pleased with their service, if anyone is looking for a testimonial.

The Nerve:

SunnyDay:

What's the deal with the UPS? I don't get it.

Because its a UPS, not a DOWNS

Well played sir.

Marcus:

I've been with Liquid Web for some time and I've been very pleased with their service, if anyone is looking for a testimonial.

You may well have been, but if anyone would trust a testimonial from you, I'd question their judgement. Obviously I don't intend this as a personal insult to you or to liquid hosting, but a comments page where you have no idea who is posting the comments is hardly the best source of information.

ParkinT:

Give a man a fish, he'll throw exceptions for a day.
Teach a man to fish, he'll throw exceptions for a lifetime!

Man, I heard it like this:

Write a man some code, and you'll solve one of his problems.
Teach him to code and you give him a lifetime of problems.

ParkinT:

Give a man a fish, he'll throw exceptions for a day.
Teach a man to fish, he'll throw exceptions for a lifetime!

If you cast a fish to boolean, be prepared to catch an exception.