Comment On The Online Ordering System

Local businesses aren't exactly known for their web savviness or IT prowess. And for the most part, that's just fine. You'd be better off judging a prospective attorney on the suit he wears rather than the website he maintains, as that at least has some tangential relationship to practicing law. But usually, you'd just go with whomever a trusted colleague recommended, anyway. [expand full text]
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Re: The Online Ordering System

2012-05-08 14:23 • by saluto (unregistered)
I couldn't beleive this is true... but translating some keywords to the right language and feeding the right search engine with that surely brought up the right website.
And the remote desktop connection still works (for the moment...)

Re: The Online Ordering System

2012-05-08 14:34 • by Derpington (unregistered)
380614 in reply to 380604
PedanticCurmudgeon:
Your not too bright, are you?


Oh, the irony.

Re: The Online Ordering System

2012-05-08 14:41 • by Nagesh (CAPTCHA:minim) (unregistered)
380616 in reply to 380560
Nagesh:
This is usable system providing not conected to restrant mane network. I would be using Linux, however to alow multipal user logon simultaneously.




You are being a bad Nagesh. Other people being much mure experienced at it that you; leave it to them.

Re: The Online Ordering System

2012-05-08 14:42 • by PedanticCurmudgeon
380617 in reply to 380614
Derpington:
PedanticCurmudgeon:
Your not too bright, are you?


Oh, the irony.
It's been a while, so I thought I'd trot out that tired, ancient meme for old times' sake. Thanks for noticing.

Re: The Online Ordering System

2012-05-08 14:51 • by Vic (unregistered)
I'll never again curse a restaurant website that only works with Flash.

Well, at least not today.

Re: The Online Ordering System

2012-05-08 14:57 • by Strolskon
"Local businesses" should all pick a good CMS or other prebuilt system and stick with it, for the exact same reason most programmers should not implement their own GUI system from scratch.


Jesus, it's 2012. If creating a fully functional restaurant website (with no programming knowledge) takes more than a couple of days, things are wrong (no I've never tried it).

Re: The Online Ordering System

2012-05-08 15:05 • by commovedo (unregistered)
I would have deleted or disabled the system, for their own safety (and left them a note).

Re: The Online Ordering System

2012-05-08 15:12 • by d (unregistered)
I wonder how long was this abomination up and running. I can't imagine it would be kept alone by local naughty techies for more than a few days...

Re: The Online Ordering System

2012-05-08 15:17 • by Tractor (unregistered)
380622 in reply to 380602
bad_management:
Draxom:
And the winner for the worst restaurant web page of all time goes to a little pizza place in pittsburgh. Good pizza if I remember correctly(I moved a while ago).


www.angelfire.com/pa2/pindan/franks.htm

whenever I look at this site I always hear the sound track from Monty Python and the Holy Grail opening credits after the llamas take over.

This might not count though since they have recently replaced this site with something far less ghastly at http://www.frankspizzaandchicken.com/


What is it with these Southwestern PA terrible restaurant websites?

Frank's old site looks like it was written in Notepad (or vi for those Linux users) back in 1992... Love the animated gifs everywhere (not!).


Actually, it looks like it was made in Frontpage. People who use a text editor to write HTML generally know what they're doing.

Re: The Online Ordering System

2012-05-08 15:22 • by ilminestraio (unregistered)
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Re: The Online Ordering System

2012-05-08 15:23 • by shadowman
380624 in reply to 380577
OldCoder:
the beholder:
Oh I'm sure the user Ludovico logged in with isn't an admin, therefore he couldn't do much other than run that app. It's an extremely secure setup.

It's a great idea to rely on Windows's built-in security.

Who says anyone is logged in?

This whole ordering system is built in to the LOG-IN SCREEN.


I think it that's the log-in screen for the restaurant ordering app, not the log-in screen for Windows itself. Note the USER-ID and PW form.

Re: The Online Ordering System

2012-05-08 15:27 • by shadowman
380625 in reply to 380604
PedanticCurmudgeon:
boog:
I'm pretty sure I would have pummelled that company's website into compliance with modern day web security standards.
I'm pretty sure you could go to jail for doing something like that. Your not too bright, are you?


For someone who calls himself PedanticCurmudgeon... :P

Re: The Online Ordering System

2012-05-08 15:57 • by DeadLenny (unregistered)
Nothing --- NOTHING --- on this earth would have prevented me from altering the menu so it offered selections from the Whizzo Quality Assortment.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dy6uLfermPU

("If we took the bones out, it wouldn't be crunchy, would it?")

Re: The Online Ordering System

2012-05-08 16:24 • by Meep (unregistered)
380627 in reply to 380625
shadowman:
PedanticCurmudgeon:
boog:
I'm pretty sure I would have pummelled that company's website into compliance with modern day web security standards.
I'm pretty sure you could go to jail for doing something like that. Your not too bright, are you?


For someone who calls himself PedanticCurmudgeon... :P


That's two!

Re: The Online Ordering System

2012-05-08 16:46 • by fishdude (unregistered)
Who's the perky cross-eyed chick?

Re: The Online Ordering System

2012-05-08 16:52 • by Alex Burr (unregistered)
380629 in reply to 380602
Many modern, dynamic functional web apps were written in text editors.

Re: The Online Ordering System

2012-05-08 16:54 • by The Great Lobachevsky
380630 in reply to 380595
Mark:
Melikoth:
Reminds me of this fine local website. Pizza isn't half bad, but the website makes me want to vomit. It looks like it used to have some Front Page extensions at one point, but I like that the even the page titles are wrong.

http://www.yayaspizza.com/



My eyes!!! I'll be seeing in bright green for a week I think. That is a comically bad site.


I love that there is also Web 0.1 going on there - that is obviously a print ad image, as the very top left "visit us at yayaspizza.com" makes no sense if you are actually visiting yayaspizza.com...

Re: The Online Ordering System

2012-05-08 17:09 • by CAPTCHA:genitus (unregistered)
380632 in reply to 380630
The Great Lobachevsky:
Mark:
Melikoth:
Reminds me of this fine local website. Pizza isn't half bad, but the website makes me want to vomit. It looks like it used to have some Front Page extensions at one point, but I like that the even the page titles are wrong.

http://www.yayaspizza.com/



My eyes!!! I'll be seeing in bright green for a week I think. That is a comically bad site.


I love that there is also Web 0.1 going on there - that is obviously a print ad image, as the very top left "visit us at yayaspizza.com" makes no sense if you are actually visiting yayaspizza.com...


This site is better than many corporate sites. You can see what the site is about, the address and the phone at first glance, the different sections are on top and clearly visble, and you can find the full menu at a single click. Only real problems are background color and that the picture takes a while to load.

Re: The Online Ordering System

2012-05-08 17:16 • by LANMind (unregistered)
Sweet zombie Jeezus! Now that's a WTF for your ass!

Re: The Online Ordering System

2012-05-08 17:16 • by The Great Lobachevsky
380634 in reply to 380632
I know, I maintain a website for the martial arts school I attend.

Unfortunately, the master of the school really doesn't have the concept of the proper use and purpose of capitalization and punctuation. It hurts me to read it, but I'm not free to change the text he gave me...

Re: The Online Ordering System

2012-05-08 17:35 • by BSA (unregistered)
I wonder how they could afford to pay for all the TS CALs...

Re: The Online Ordering System

2012-05-08 18:22 • by MartySchmarty (unregistered)
380636 in reply to 380635
please leave a comment in the guestbook it you visit the server (you'll find it :)

Re: The Online Ordering System

2012-05-08 18:55 • by neminem (unregistered)
380637 in reply to 380622
Tractor:
Actually, it looks like it was made in Frontpage. People who use a text editor to write HTML generally know what they're doing.

I would -partially- contest that: there are a lot of people like myself, who use a text editor to author their web pages, and whose sites, like mine, therefore look less like they're from the mid-90s (crappy animated gifs and bad layouts), and more like they're from the mid *80s* (nothing but black text on white backgrounds, not really taking that big advantage of the 'm' part of html, cause I, I mean they, can't be arsed to.)

I'd argue that's still an improvement, though.

Re: The Online Ordering System

2012-05-08 19:17 • by bkDJ (unregistered)
Why bother showing us the contents of the .rdp file with the line
username:s:beneeats
But then screenshot the login prompt with a mosaic over the username field...?

Re: The Online Ordering System

2012-05-08 19:25 • by fearofshorts (unregistered)
Personally, I get the feeling that the designer/programmer (who I will call Over-His-Head Harry) was the owner's cousin.

Harry volunteered after hearing about his poor uncle's need for a order management system quickly pirated an outdated textbook which taught him how to use VB6. Harry felt confident he could get it done in a weekend.

A couple of months later, the first version of the program was ready. Customers could call in, place their order and the staff would just enter it into his 'BicroSoft Ordering System XP' (what a clever name, huh?).

"But..." asked Harry's uncle "how do customers log in?"

Panicking, the Over-His-Head Harry added user account functionality, bashing it into the already overcomplex system backend. Proudly, he showed 'BicroSoft Ordering System XP SP 1' to his uncle, this time having learned from his mistake- not spending enough time making the graphics flashy enough with stolen artwork.

"Very nice, very nice. Good work!" his uncle praised. It ran fine on his PC and he was glad to be done with the long overdue project. Soon the software was installed on an old Pentium 3 system Harry's uncle had kept in his garage and was ready for use.

Happily, Harry went back to playing Call of Duty "competitively", trying to enjoy the last of his summer break before having to go back to school and start his year 10 education. Boy was he in for a shock when he was called at 6AM early one morning...

"Hey, uh... how do the users log in?"

The rest, I believe you can work out.

Re: The Online Ordering System

2012-05-08 19:37 • by trwtf (unregistered)
www.hinserdata.com appear to be selling that crap since 15 years - somebody has to stop them!

Re: The Online Ordering System

2012-05-08 19:43 • by Tim (unregistered)
Written in visual foxpro.

Re: The Online Ordering System

2012-05-08 20:22 • by Maurits
I like to believe that all the privilege escalation tools like Task Manager have been replaced with honeypot versions, which serve only to stall the would-be hacker with progressively more subtle delay tactics, allowing the authorities time to track them down and deploy the SWAT team.

Re: The Online Ordering System

2012-05-08 20:31 • by nobis (unregistered)
Well at least they were smart enough to not give any real permissions to the user account you log in with. I wonder how long until someone figures out the Administrator password?

It looks like they've been running since 2006, and it's actually an Intel Celeron 2.66GHz. Only 1 GB of ram, so yeah maybe not much better than a P3 anyway.

Re: The Online Ordering System

2012-05-08 20:34 • by Bubba (unregistered)
380647 in reply to 380639
bkDJ:
Why bother showing us the contents of the .rdp file with the line
username:s:beneeats
But then screenshot the login prompt with a mosaic over the username field...?

Because your mom did crack while she was pregnant with you. The actual username is different.

Re: The Online Ordering System

2012-05-08 21:09 • by Mark (unregistered)
380648 in reply to 380646
nobis:
Well at least they were smart enough to not give any real permissions to the user account you log in with. I wonder how long until someone figures out the Administrator password?


However, even with the regular user account they conveniently provide you with access to their database administration tool (this GUI is a major WTF in itself) where you can access (and possibly change? Didn't dare to try) their data...

Re: The Online Ordering System

2012-05-08 22:17 • by x (unregistered)
Ludovico, indeed...

Re: The Online Ordering System

2012-05-08 22:33 • by Paul (unregistered)
They must be wondering what hit them now... sadly there is a sad error message now with what looks like a database error.

Re: The Online Ordering System

2012-05-08 22:38 • by laoreet (unregistered)
Yeah I can't believe some idiot broke it. Let this be a lesson to all you young whippersnappers, don't muck around with FoxPro (aka DBASE) files! And get off my lawn!

Hopefully they can fix their database without restoring the entire application.......I left a fun Easter Egg in the app. If they get it working again, let's see who spots it frist. :)

Re: The Online Ordering System

2012-05-09 00:10 • by Shinobu (unregistered)
It probably survived because if you did try, you'd find out that you cannot log in as admin, you can run / modify anything that causes any actual harm, most of the customers use Windows and the thing is low-profile enough that the RDP vulnerabilities got patched before someone thought of exploiting them.
Not saying this isn't a WTF though.

Re: The Online Ordering System

2012-05-09 01:28 • by L. (unregistered)
380655 in reply to 380562
C-Octothorpe:
pkmnfrk:
The first true WTF in a long, long time.

Who on earth, with the capability to use RDP in the first place, thought this was a good idea??
Student + VB6 = disaster...


It's microsoft + anyone = disaster.

I have yet to meet someone who understands every quirk of windows, including 2008.

alright vb6 sucks badly, but when you see standard java code it makes me puke just as much.

Re: The Online Ordering System

2012-05-09 02:41 • by Trondster
Best. Wtf. Ever.

Re: The Online Ordering System

2012-05-09 02:43 • by Jan Doggen (unregistered)
I tried to put the English instructions back into Google translate, then search for some of the Italian phrases, but alas, couldn't find the website.
A Google image search for that beautiful picture also failed.

Anyone more luck?

Re: The Online Ordering System

2012-05-09 04:16 • by L. (unregistered)
380658 in reply to 380594
null:
C-Octothorpe:
Nagesh:
This is usable system providing not conected to restrant mane network. I would be using Linux, however to alow multipal user logon simultaneously.
Yeah, you're right...

I'm sure this is a simple VB6 app which generates an HTTP Post request to an internal-only website, which then scrapes the resulting response and populates another HTTP Post with your data, which is saved to an MS-Access "Database". Then some customer service drone prints the MS-Access driven web-page with your information, takes a picture of the printout and faxes the picture to the restaurant.

Nice and simple...

You forgot the wooden table. ;-)

I don't think this a WTF. This is standard practice on an embedded system, since you can't install IIS to host the website.


You got me afraid of people actually making windows-based embedded devices. Never thought someone would do that ...

Re: The Online Ordering System

2012-05-09 04:19 • by L. (unregistered)
380659 in reply to 380602
bad_management:
Draxom:
And the winner for the worst restaurant web page of all time goes to a little pizza place in pittsburgh. Good pizza if I remember correctly(I moved a while ago).


www.angelfire.com/pa2/pindan/franks.htm

whenever I look at this site I always hear the sound track from Monty Python and the Holy Grail opening credits after the llamas take over.

This might not count though since they have recently replaced this site with something far less ghastly at http://www.frankspizzaandchicken.com/


What is it with these Southwestern PA terrible restaurant websites?

Frank's old site looks like it was written in Notepad (or vi for those Linux users) back in 1992... Love the animated gifs everywhere (not!).


lol. the best websites are written in notepad++ or vi.

Re: The Online Ordering System

2012-05-09 04:25 • by L. (unregistered)
380660 in reply to 380619
Strolskon:
"Local businesses" should all pick a good CMS or other prebuilt system and stick with it, for the exact same reason most programmers should not implement their own GUI system from scratch.


Jesus, it's 2012. If creating a fully functional restaurant website (with no programming knowledge) takes more than a couple of days, things are wrong (no I've never tried it).


It all depends on what you want. If you want generic crap, all the fake devs out there can do it for you in a day with joomla or whatever.

If you want a robust long term solution with bleeding-edge tech and a real badass css, I don't think they can do it for you, even in a few months.

The thing is, if the end result is going to suck, start with a suck factory like joomla or drupal.

On the other hand if you have a real budget and very high goals, yes it will take more than a couple of days, and it will be infinitely better too, cuz joomla and other toys have been written by noobs, for noobs.

Re: The Online Ordering System

2012-05-09 04:43 • by Dave (unregistered)
380661 in reply to 380659
L.:
bad_management:


Frank's old site looks like it was written in Notepad (or vi for those Linux users) back in 1992... Love the animated gifs everywhere (not!).


lol. the best websites are written in notepad++ or vi.


The Real WTF is you apparently not knowing the difference between Notepad and Notepad++.

Re: The Online Ordering System

2012-05-09 04:48 • by TheJonB (unregistered)
Our MIS system works like this, I thought it was just me that thought it was a pile of shit.

Re: The Online Ordering System

2012-05-09 04:56 • by genitus (unregistered)
380663 in reply to 380657
Jan Doggen:
I tried to put the English instructions back into Google translate, then search for some of the Italian phrases, but alas, couldn't find the website.
A Google image search for that beautiful picture also failed.

Anyone more luck?


CAPTCHA:odio. I don't odio you, but you should read the first page of comments before asking.

Re: The Online Ordering System

2012-05-09 05:23 • by YellowOnline (unregistered)
I never comment on the articles, but for this one I make an exception: wow, just wow. This is the most amazing TDWTF in years.

Captcha: Amet - Autoridad Metropolitana de Tranporte, the transport authority on the Domenican Republic (yes, i googled that)

Re: The Online Ordering System

2012-05-09 06:12 • by mick (unregistered)
It's on reddit right now, so they will have to put it down or it will be put down :(

I hope it doesn't result in a (captcha: causa).

Re: The Online Ordering System

2012-05-09 06:14 • by D0R (unregistered)
The window title of the app says "Powered by HinserData W.t.f.".

At least they're aware of it.

Re: The Online Ordering System

2012-05-09 06:53 • by laoreet (unregistered)
380669 in reply to 380666
D0R:
The window title of the app says "Powered by HinserData W.t.f.".

At least they're aware of it.

Aaaaand we have a winnah, D0R spotted my Easter Egg. Good job, if I was actually affiliated with TDWTF I'd send you a mug. :)

Btw that doesn't necessarily mean they're aware of anything. They might not even notice the changed title, it used to have some other three-letter abbreviation there, I guess the Italian equivalent of "Inc" or "PLC".

Re: The Online Ordering System

2012-05-09 07:11 • by Jan Doggen (unregistered)
380670 in reply to 380663
I read the entire first page, then posted my question, then found out there was actually a second page of comments with people mentioning their break-ins ;-)

Re: The Online Ordering System

2012-05-09 07:23 • by MartySchmarty (unregistered)
380671 in reply to 380670
Jan Doggen:
I read the entire first page, then posted my question, then found out there was actually a second page of comments with people mentioning their break-ins ;-)

Break-ins? Their remote login information is printed in huge letters on their homepage, these are at best leisurely-stroll-in-the-afternoon-ins!
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