Comment On What Is Truth?

What's wrong with that piece of code? isn't that standard C++?

 

Seriously, are you not familiar with filenotfoundian algebra?

Alex Papadimoulis:

The problem with "logic" is that it
makes things out to be nothing but simple dualities. Proponents of
logic want us to believe that everything is true or false, black or
white, yes or no, paper or plastic, etc. Thankfully, there are some
among us, like Mark Harrison's colleague, who are not afraid to stand up to these logic advocates and shout "no, I will not succumb to your false dichotomies!" Today, I think we all should salute those few brave people ...

enum Bool 
{ 
    True, 
    False, 
    FileNotFound 
};

"... I will succumb to my own false dichotomies!"



You should adjust that third value to "InMyOtherJacket".  It makes the output easier:

     The answer is _____.



Sincerely,



Gene Wirchenko

Alex Papadimoulis:

 Proponents of logic want us to believe that everything is true or false, black or white, yes or no, paper or plastic, etc.

Obviously there are never 2 choices...always 3.

True, False, or FileNotFound
black, white, or apple
yes, no, or car
paper, plastic, or shoe

-ds

or indeed true, false or null...

All my apps have the following enum:

public enum MostlyBool
{
  True,
  False,
  KindaSortaNotReally
}

This guy and his fuzzy logic are way too advanced for my limited mind.

In one app of mine, to see if the user can edit fields in a form:


public enum Editable {
YES,
NO,
DISABLED,
READONLY;
}


The last three values mean "no" :)

 

Alex Papadimalanotgonnaworkhereanymore:

no, I will not succumb to your false dichotomies!

No, I will not succumb to your FileNotFound dichotomies!

Const True as Int = -1
Const False as Int = 0
Const Maybe as Int = 0.5

...and later on down the code there is the ubiquitous IsTrue() function.

We all know this is wrong ...



Should have been

enum Bool 
{ 
    True, 
    False, 
    DefiniteMaybe 
};

I'm surrounded by code written by morons.  Complete... utter...
morons.    Just... oh fu** it nevermind.  
Just look:



    /// <remarks/>

    [System.Xml.Serialization.XmlTypeAttribute(Namespace="<snip>")]

    public enum BoolEnum

    {

        /// <remarks/>

        @false,



        /// <remarks/>

        @true,

   

   

    }

Alex Papadimoulis:

The problem with "logic" is that it makes things out to be nothing
but simple dualities. Proponents of logic want us to believe that
everything is true or false, black or white, yes or no, paper or
plastic, etc. Thankfully, there are some among us, like Mark Harrison's colleague, who are not afraid to stand up to these logic advocates and shout "no, I will not succumb to your false dichotomies!" Today, I think we all should salute those few brave people ...

enum Bool 
{ 
    True, 
    False, 
    FileNotFound 
};

The problem with opponents of basic modal logic, of course,
is that proponents of ulterior transmogrified logic systems must use modal
logic to base their preposterous arguments… arguments which appear to resemble
something, when consumed, tastes entirely unlike tea.

Alex Papadimoulis:

The problem with "logic" is that it makes things out to be nothing but simple dualities. Proponents of logic want us to believe that everything is true or false, black or white, yes or no, paper or plastic, etc. Thankfully, there are some among us, like Mark Harrison's colleague, who are not afraid to stand up to these logic advocates and shout "no, I will not succumb to your false dichotomies!" Today, I think we all should salute those few brave people ...

enum Bool 

{ 

    True, 

    False, 

    FileNotFound 

};

The more subtle WTF is that, by default, True is 0 and False is 1.  Which is completely bass-ackwards.

Alex Papadimoulis:

enum Bool 

{ 

    True, 

    False, 

    FileNotFound 

};

wait, wouldn't this assign:

True <- 0
False <- 1
FileNotFound <- 2

in C/C++?  what language is this?

christoofar:

The problem with opponents of basic modal logic, of course, is that proponents of ulterior transmogrified logic systems must use modal logic to base their preposterous arguments… arguments which appear to resemble something, when consumed, tastes entirely unlike tea.

i would like to transmogrify into a tiger.

My favorite part about this is the following:



int main() {

  if(True) {

    printf("True is true\n");

  }

  if(False) {

    printf("False is true\n");

  }

  if(FileNotFound) {

    printf("FileNotFound is true\n");

  }

}

emptyset:

Alex Papadimoulis:

enum Bool 
{ 
    True, 
    False, 
    FileNotFound 
};

wait, wouldn't this assign:

True <- 0
False <- 1
FileNotFound <- 2

in C/C++?  what language is this?

I was wondering the same thing, since Bool is a reserved word in
Java/C#...  they superceded the Bool class?!?!! wtf?!?!!  Now
you have System.Boolean and WTF.Bool.    How
con-vieeeeeeeeeeean-yant.

emptyset:

i would like to transmogrify into a tiger.

Transform!



More than meets the eye!

Aha!



In UNIX, everything is a file!

memory, devices, process info, PCI bus... and, uh, files (duh!)



So, this makes perfect' sense!















': enum {perfect = 0};

idiot!

True, False, HowTheHellDidThisHappen

DisturbedSaint:

Obviously there are never 2 choices...always 3.

True, False, or FileNotFound
black, white, or apple
yes, no, or car
paper, plastic, or shoe

North, South, or Dennis

Enric Naval:

In one app of mine, to see if the user can edit fields in a form:


public enum Editable {
YES,
NO,
DISABLED,
READONLY;
}


The last three values mean "no" :)

christoofar:

emptyset:

Alex Papadimoulis:

enum Bool 
{ 
    True, 
    False, 
    FileNotFound 
};

wait, wouldn't this assign:

True <- 0
False <- 1
FileNotFound <- 2

in C/C++?  what language is this?

I was wondering the same thing, since Bool is a reserved word in
Java/C#...  they superceded the Bool class?!?!! wtf?!?!!  Now
you have System.Boolean and WTF.Bool.    How
con-vieeeeeeeeeeean-yant.

boolean, not Bool, is reserved in Java as a primitive type, and there's
also a Boolean class. I don't know about C#.  In C/C++ it depends
on compiler if it's even supported, but for every compiler I've worked
with it is bool, not Bool, that is reserved.



Sincerely,



I'm cooler than Gene W-name

May be part of his brain is in a quantum universe... He's trying to add another dimension to our world !!!

And in Soviet Russia, the file is you!

Er, wouldn't that be a trichotomy ?

Ytram:

 

Alex Papadimalanotgonnaworkhereanymore:

no, I will not succumb to your false dichotomies!

No, I will not succumb to your FileNotFound dichotomies!

Er, wouldn't that be a trichotomy?
(One of these days I'm going to get quoting right)

OK, I give up. What about HTML?

Anonymous:

OK, I give up. What about HTML?

Below the writing area, there are two options: "design" and "HTML". Select the "HTML" option. Use a browser that can render the options, like Internet Explorer. Remember to use &amp; for &, &gt; for >, &lt; for <, etc. and <p> tags for nice paragraphs and <pre> tags for code.

0, 1, and sqr(-1)?

Enric Naval:

Anonymous:

OK, I give up. What about HTML?

Below the writing area, there are two options: "design" and "HTML".
Select the "HTML" option. Use a browser that can render the options,
like Internet Explorer. Remember to use & for &, > for >,
< for <, etc. and

tags for nice paragraphs and

 tags for code.

Actually, you should use <blockquote><pre> </pre><blockquote> for blocks of code.

And <code> for inline code, such as variables of one-liners.

BTW, Firefox handles that just fine.

masklinn:

Enric Naval:

Anonymous:

OK, I give up. What about HTML?

Below the writing area, there are two options: "design" and "HTML".
Select the "HTML" option. Use a browser that can render the options,
like Internet Explorer. Remember to use & for &, > for >,
< for <, etc. and

tags for nice paragraphs and

 tags for code.

Actually, you should use

for blocks of code.

And for inline code, such as variables of one-liners.

BTW, Firefox handles that just fine.

Bah, forgot to close the blockquote, and s/of/or.

Alex Papadimoulis:

The problem with "logic" is that it
makes things out to be nothing but simple dualities. Proponents of
logic want us to believe that everything is true or false, black or
white, yes or no, paper or plastic, etc. Thankfully, there are some
among us, like Mark Harrison's colleague, who are not afraid to stand up to these logic advocates and shout "no, I will not succumb to your false dichotomies!" Today, I think we all should salute those few brave people ...

enum Bool 
{ 
    True, 
    False, 
    FileNotFound 
};

Us SQL developers know this should really be

enum Bool 
{ 
    True, 
    False, 
    NULL 
};

christoofar:

The problem with opponents of basic modal logic, of course, is that proponents of ulterior transmogrified logic systems must use modal logic to base their preposterous arguments… arguments which appear to resemble something, when consumed, tastes entirely unlike tea.

No no - it's almost, but not quite, entirely unlike tea.

Thus spake the Holy Prophet of Douglas Adams.

tmountjr:

Const True as Int = -1
Const False as Int = 0
Const Maybe as Int = 0.5

0.5 as an Integer..... very interesting! ^o)

RevMike:

Alex Papadimoulis:

The problem with "logic" is that it
makes things out to be nothing but simple dualities. Proponents of
logic want us to believe that everything is true or false, black or
white, yes or no, paper or plastic, etc. Thankfully, there are some
among us, like Mark Harrison's colleague, who are not afraid to stand up to these logic advocates and shout "no, I will not succumb to your false dichotomies!" Today, I think we all should salute those few brave people ...

enum Bool 
{ 
    True, 
    False, 
    FileNotFound 
};

Us SQL developers know this should really be

enum Bool 
{ 
    True, 
    False, 
    NULL 
};

Us Electronic Engineers now that it should really be

That would be:

enum Bool{

    VCC,

    GND,

    Z

}

We have languages wherein "everything" non-zero is "true" ... at least
this one uses an enum to limit the choices.  Since the language in
this WTF seems a little ambiguous (C/C++? Java?), let's at least hope
it's a type enforcing language.



It does explain some of the stranger "file not found" messages I get
:)  Have we already forgotten "An unnamed file was not found"?



[Any other 'unregistered' users noting the captcha verification misses the first word sometimes?]

In the fashion of fuzzy logic, I say he updates this code to be "True", "False" and "Maybe".

Anonymous:

The more subtle WTF is that, by default, True is 0 and False is 1.  Which is completely bass-ackwards.

Silly me, I was in such a hurry to comment I didn't know that.  That's as big as a WTF as the fact he has a 3 value boolean!

Whose turn is it to explain why this isn't all that bad after-all?

What about "maybe"?

"I will not succumb to your FileNotFound dichotomies!"

fregas:

All my apps have the following enum:

public enum MostlyBool
{
  True,
  False,
  KindaSortaNotReally
}

But... what does IsTrue(KindaSortaNotReally) return? We need another level of the enum for... "Probably"

Anonymous:

Whose turn is it to explain why this isn't all that bad after-all?

I'll take a stab.  This looks like C++.  Maybe he's used to
coding with HResults.  If that's the case, he's used to 0 meaning
"good", negative meaning "error", and positive meaning "warning". 
Maybe this Bool type is supposed to be an HResult.





It's interesting that he could define IsTrue something like this:

bool IsTrue(Bool b) {  return !b; }

I don't think people are seeing the value in this.

In standard logic, the statement "all deep-sea dwelling elephants can fly" is true.  With this addition, the answer is now FileNotFound; a much more satisfying answer.

In that case it's a WTF for calling it a bool.

Anonymous:

The more subtle WTF is that, by default, True is 0 and False is 1.  Which is completely bass-ackwards.

UNIX would beg to differ:

> [ -d / ]; echo $?

0

> [ -f / ]; echo $?

1