• MP79 (unregistered)

    I wonder how common airlines using access to power things really is. Then I stop wondering and start planning my next trip, by train.

  • Russell (unregistered)

    No! I missed Frist. :(

  • CaptainPenguin (unregistered)
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  • Setabsian (unregistered) in reply to Russell

    You can't always be the frist!

  • GWO (unregistered)

    So, what do you think the phrase "IF ANY" means?

    Clue: it means you can leave it blank to say "None of the above"

  • nitpick (unregistered) in reply to GWO

    That's what you (and the OP) expected; as shown by the error message in the upper right corner, the app developer doesn't seem to agree.

  • Peter (unregistered) in reply to GWO
    GWO:
    So, what do you think the phrase "IF ANY" means?

    Clue: it means you can leave it blank to say "None of the above"

    And when you do leave it blank, you get the error message shown: Your answer is required before you can continue.

  • Unknown (unregistered)

    Who won the coding contest?

  • pjt33 (cs)

    The required city reminds me of the time I went along as translator to help someone open a bank account in Ecuador. City of birth was required for that (don't ask why, because I didn't), and the closest they had to London was Madrid.

    Hey, better some incorrect data than a null value, right?

  • faoileag (unregistered)

    The spouse error is not a wtf. Many people have multiple spouses (think: Utah, Saudi-Arabia...) and therefore it makes perfect sense to find out to which one exactly the money should go once you die. Maybe they even have a fall-through system (like that voting system in Oz), so if "favorite spouse #1" has died before you, the money will go to the spouse you liked second-best, and so on?

  • faoileag (unregistered) in reply to MP79
    MP79:
    I wonder how common airlines using access to power things really is. Then I stop wondering and start planning my next trip, by train.
    Oh, there have been plenty of train-related wtfs on the friday collections in the past as well! :-)

    Perhaps you should plan your next trip going by feet?

  • faoileag (unregistered)

    So in that list they have Sunderland and Newcastle-under-Lyme, but not Newcastle-upon-Tyne. That might cause a few raised eyebrows... (guess which of the three has the largest population).

  • davesol (unregistered) in reply to faoileag
    faoileag:
    So in that list they have Sunderland and Newcastle-under-Lyme, but not Newcastle-upon-Tyne. That might cause a few raised eyebrows... (guess which of the three has the largest population).
    It looks like they have less than a third of all the cities in the UK and according to wikipedia Newcastle-under-Lyme is a town, not a city anyway!
  • Hannes (unregistered) in reply to MP79
    MP79:
    I wonder how common airlines using access to power things really is. Then I stop wondering and start planning my next trip, by train.

    Because trains are always punctual and there's never any kind of trouble when traveling by train, right?

  • faoileag (unregistered) in reply to davesol
    davesol:
    and according to wikipedia Newcastle-under-Lyme is a town, not a city anyway!
    My theory is that they offshored development and gave them a clear spec "And make sure Newcastle is in that list!". But for some reason the developer decided to look up the "official" names and picked the wrong Newcastle.

    After all nobody really refers to Hull as "Kingston upon Hull", so my bet is a look-up error by someone not familiar with the UK.

  • Cheong (unregistered) in reply to MP79
    MP79:
    I wonder how common airlines using access to power things really is. Then I stop wondering and start planning my next trip, by train.
    ... only to find out another timetable screwup with MS Access again.

    With MS Access application generator come with Access 2000, these kind of application is probably much more than you'd imagine.

  • QJo (unregistered) in reply to Hannes
    Hannes:
    MP79:
    I wonder how common airlines using access to power things really is. Then I stop wondering and start planning my next trip, by train.

    Because trains are always punctual and there's never any kind of trouble when traveling by train, right?

    In general, the rail travel experience is an improvement over the option to go by air. The actual transit time may not be as long, but the fuss and palaver either end tend to be considerably less. The scenery is usually more interesting, too.

    Mind you, nothing quite matches the thrill and excitement of driving from one side of Europe to the other without a map.

  • QJo (unregistered) in reply to QJo
    QJo:
    Hannes:
    MP79:
    I wonder how common airlines using access to power things really is. Then I stop wondering and start planning my next trip, by train.

    Because trains are always punctual and there's never any kind of trouble when traveling by train, right?

    In general, the rail travel experience is an improvement over the option to go by air. The actual transit time may not be as long, but the fuss and palaver either end tend to be considerably less. The scenery is usually more interesting, too.

    Mind you, nothing quite matches the thrill and excitement of driving from one side of Europe to the other without a map.

    ... sorry, that second sentence (referring to the air option) should have read "considerably more".

  • QJo (unregistered) in reply to faoileag
    faoileag:
    The spouse error is not a wtf. Many people have multiple spouses (think: Utah, Saudi-Arabia...) and therefore it makes perfect sense to find out to which one exactly the money should go once you die. Maybe they even have a fall-through system (like that voting system in Oz), so if "favorite spouse #1" has died before you, the money will go to the spouse you liked second-best, and so on?
    The real WTF is not allowing you the option to divvy it up between all 61.
  • QJo (unregistered) in reply to faoileag
    faoileag:
    So in that list they have Sunderland and Newcastle-under-Lyme, but not Newcastle-upon-Tyne. That might cause a few raised eyebrows... (guess which of the three has the largest population).
    Maybe the problem is that they're justifiably not expecting anyone from Newcastle-upon-Tyne to have either sufficient financial attributes to be able to afford a computer (let alone the merchandise that is being purchased from it, if this is a shopping website) or the adequate intellectual ability to be able actually to read the webpage.
  • rick, no neil (unregistered) in reply to faoileag
    faoileag:
    So in that list they have Sunderland and Newcastle-under-Lyme, but not Newcastle-upon-Tyne. That might cause a few raised eyebrows... (guess which of the three has the largest population).

    the order of the list appears to be another WTF as it doesn't appear to be by population size or alphabetical or anything else usefull

  • Captcha:aptent (unregistered) in reply to MP79

    I don't think it's that bad to use Access for airport screens. It might not be the best choice, but it's not the same as, say, using Excel as a database or sending images inside a word document.

    After all, pulling data from a database and showing it on screen are things it's supposed to be used for, right?

  • Mike (unregistered)

    I'm a mac fan but I won't wait more than 399530457 hrs and 13 minutes for anyone.

  • Mike (unregistered) in reply to Captcha:aptent

    Also just because the top layer is access doesn't mean the backend store isn't SQL Server, Oracle ... whatever. Sometimes using access to hack together a simple UI and having all your actual db/stored procs etc living in the backend on something you trust makes sense.

  • eVil (unregistered) in reply to faoileag
    faoileag:
    So in that list they have Sunderland and Newcastle-under-Lyme, but not Newcastle-upon-Tyne. That might cause a few raised eyebrows...

    ...though only once someone in Newcastle has been taught English.

  • cyborg (unregistered) in reply to Unknown
    Unknown:
    Who won the coding contest?

    The president's daughter.

  • QJo (unregistered) in reply to rick, no neil
    rick:
    faoileag:
    So in that list they have Sunderland and Newcastle-under-Lyme, but not Newcastle-upon-Tyne. That might cause a few raised eyebrows... (guess which of the three has the largest population).

    the order of the list appears to be another WTF as it doesn't appear to be by population size or alphabetical or anything else usefull

    I have just been working on a project where the requirement is to select the telephone international dialling code by means of a drop-down. The contents of this drop-down are held in a database held at the customer's site. We have already pointed out that this list is not complete. So far so good. Next thing we hear is that we are to present the elements of the drop-down in alphabetical order of the name (in English) of the nations whose dialling codes they are.

    You can see where this is going: the numbers are to be presented in the order: 355, 213, 244 1-264, 54, 374, 61, 43, 994 ...(snip)... 41, 1, 598, 998, 58, 84, 967, 381, 260, 263, 850.

    We suggested to the customer that this might not be optimal: how is the user supposed to find the appropriate code apart from searching through the entire drop-down? But no, that's what they want, because they can't think of how on earth we'd implement it in any other way - it would be "too complicated". When we suggested that it would be less tedious for the customer to type it in, they demurred on that one as well, on some spurious grounds ("they might type the wrong numbers in" or something).

    We also have an instruction on that page: "Please enter your phone number without the leading zero" because if you do enter the leading zero it will cause the payment software to crash. So why don't we just quietly remove that initial zero as the user enters it? In fact we did this, but again the customer told us to remove this extra useful function.

    These are not the worst offences against humanity that they have asked us to program. We have requested that our own company logo be removed from the solution we have been paid to provide, because we don't want our name to be associated with it.

  • golddog (unregistered)

    Mmmm....Newcastle Brown...Mmmmm

  • Popeye (unregistered)

    What the fuck is wrong with that airport! It uses fucking MS Access to show arrivals?

    Where is that?

    Holy shit what do they use for for air traffic control?

  • Jellineck (unregistered) in reply to Popeye
    Popeye:
    What the fuck is wrong with that airport! It uses fucking MS Access to show arrivals?

    Where is that?

    Holy shit what do they use for for air traffic control?

    I know, right? Because the requirements for both kinds of systems are like totally the same. OMGLOLIGOTMYPERIOD

  • aWTFmaker (unregistered) in reply to Popeye
    Popeye:
    Holy shit what do they use for for air traffic control?
    QBasic
  • Dorian (unregistered)

    There is a German joke about Siemens "Technology": Does it have to work or can I offer you something by Siemens?

    The biggest reason they're still in business is that they managed to bribe the right people at the right time and now businesses depend on them. Such a shame...

    Captcha: quibus. Corruption is utiquibus.

  • Yeah (unregistered) in reply to Popeye

    Excel

  • operagost (cs) in reply to CaptainPenguin
    CaptainPenguin:
    Life insurance approved by Craster.

    "Spouse Only Spouse", in case your spouse is also your daughter, and all insurance becomes void.

    What if I'm the President?
    It also caters for polygamy, which is handy.
    Right or wrong, this is how they used to do it in Utah.
  • operagost (cs) in reply to faoileag
    faoileag:
    davesol:
    and according to wikipedia Newcastle-under-Lyme is a town, not a city anyway!
    My theory is that they offshored development and gave them a clear spec "And make sure Newcastle is in that list!". But for some reason the developer decided to look up the "official" names and picked the wrong Newcastle.

    After all nobody really refers to Hull as "Kingston upon Hull", so my bet is a look-up error by someone not familiar with the UK.

    TRWTF are city names in the UK.

  • QJo (unregistered) in reply to operagost
    operagost:
    faoileag:
    davesol:
    and according to wikipedia Newcastle-under-Lyme is a town, not a city anyway!
    My theory is that they offshored development and gave them a clear spec "And make sure Newcastle is in that list!". But for some reason the developer decided to look up the "official" names and picked the wrong Newcastle.

    After all nobody really refers to Hull as "Kingston upon Hull", so my bet is a look-up error by someone not familiar with the UK.

    TRWTF are city names in the UK.
    No joke. There's a movement to rename Reading, UK to "Reading-on-Thames", because they think it sounds more up-market.

    Er hang on a minute, most of the names of cities in Britain are also the names of cities in Massachusetts, so I'm not sure from which location your finger is pointing ...

  • Paul Neumann (unregistered) in reply to operagost
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  • Alex Papadumbass (cs) in reply to GWO
    GWO:
    So, what do you think the phrase "IF ANY" means?

    Clue: it means you can leave it blank to say "None of the above"

    So, what do you think you should do with that error message in red? Clue: Read it.

    It's okay to be dumb. It's okay to be rude. Just don't be both at the same time.

  • Eric Lawrence (unregistered)

    The guy who Photoshopped the Fiddler install screen forgot to take the focus highlight off the button he copied. Amateur.

  • Loren Pechtel (cs)

    The spouse one actually makes sense even if you don't consider polygamy.

    They specified spouse only but they didn't enter information as to who that spouse was--they need a name, not merely "spouse".

  • Temporally Out of order (unregistered) in reply to QJo
    QJo:
    operagost:
    faoileag:
    davesol:
    and according to wikipedia Newcastle-under-Lyme is a town, not a city anyway!
    My theory is that they offshored development and gave them a clear spec "And make sure Newcastle is in that list!". But for some reason the developer decided to look up the "official" names and picked the wrong Newcastle.

    After all nobody really refers to Hull as "Kingston upon Hull", so my bet is a look-up error by someone not familiar with the UK.

    TRWTF are city names in the UK.
    No joke. There's a movement to rename Reading, UK to "Reading-on-Thames", because they think it sounds more up-market.

    Er hang on a minute, most of the names of cities in Britain are also the names of cities in Massachusetts, so I'm not sure from which location your finger is pointing ...

    Renaming Reading? It all started when Edward 7th's sick son went to Bognor.

  • anonymous (unregistered) in reply to Eric Lawrence
    Eric Lawrence:
    The guy who Photoshopped the Fiddler install screen forgot to take the focus highlight off the button he copied. Amateur.
    Actually, I'd say it is probably a real screenshot. I've had really bizarre graphical glitches with Windows XP in Virtual PC. GUI elements being corrupted or drawn multiple times (as shown in the screenshot) is a pretty common one. Another common one is that when it redraws screen elements (e.g. titlebars, the Taskbar), occasionally it'll be instead replaced with a block of random RGB garbage.

    That's one of the main reasons why I switched to VMWare Player.

  • Loose Bree (cs)

    Obviously you would choose 'Nottingham' if none of the others apply.

  • anonymous (unregistered) in reply to Loose Bree

    Or maybe FILE_NOT_FOUND_ingham. ;-)

  • Jay (unregistered) in reply to davesol
    davesol:
    It looks like they have less than a third of all the cities in the UK and according to wikipedia Newcastle-under-Lyme is a town, not a city anyway!

    Maybe so, but from just that one screen you don't know the purpose of the question. Like, maybe those are the cities where they deliver with their own delivery trucks, and anywhere else they have to send the product by mail. Etc. I'm sure one could think of any number of reasons why a subset of all the possibilities is perfectly reasonable.

  • Jay (unregistered)

    I think it's kind of funny that, in the US anyway, it's illegal to have two wives, but there's no law against having a wife and also having an affair with another woman. You can have any number of sex partners, as long as you only make promises of life-long fidelity to one of them.

    In the past there were laws against unmarried people of the opposite sex living together and that sort of thing, but I think those laws are all long since abolished.

    If someone wants to be a polygamist, what law would stop him from sharing a house with any number of women, including them all in his will, signing powers-of-attorney and contracts to give them all the same legal rights and responsibilities that a wife would have, etc, as long as, what? As long as he doesn't get more than one marriage license or claim more than one as his wife on his income tax returns?

    It's kind of funny. There are lots of things that you are required to get a license from the government to be allowed to do, like drive a car or practice medicine. But in this case, it's only legal if you DON'T get a license.

  • Jay (unregistered) in reply to Alex Papadumbass
    Alex Papadumbass:
    GWO:
    So, what do you think the phrase "IF ANY" means?

    Clue: it means you can leave it blank to say "None of the above"

    So, what do you think you should do with that error message in red? Clue: Read it.

    It's okay to be dumb. It's okay to be rude. Just don't be both at the same time.

    This is why I generally avoid accusing someone of being stupid. If you say, "Hey, are you sure that that's right?" then if it turns out that in fact it is right, you can easily back down without looking like a jerk.

  • SpewinCoffee (cs) in reply to Russell
    Russell:
    No! I missed Frist. :(

    Good. Because that's annoying. Only small children do that.

  • OldCoder (unregistered) in reply to Dorian
    Dorian:
    There is a German joke about Siemens "Technology": Does it have to work or can I offer you something by Siemens?

    The biggest reason they're still in business is that they managed to bribe the right people at the right time and now businesses depend on them. Such a shame...

    Captcha: quibus. Corruption is utiquibus.

    Guess what? Siemens made a lot of new trains for the UK...

    Perhaps I will walk.

  • no laughing matter (cs) in reply to Loose Bree
    Loose Bree:
    Obviously you would choose 'Nottingham' if none of the others apply.
    anonymous:
    Or maybe FILE_NOT_FOUND_ingham. ;-)
    But all the folks from Ingham, Ingham, Ingham and Ingham protest loudly!

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