• Fred (unregistered)

    I once had a Trash-80 computer. But Trash-11? That's even before my time.

  • (cs)

    I'm imagining Mr. Magenta (from MFD - speaking of which, aren't we due for Season 3 of that?) as "The President":

    Magenta: Mwa-ha-ha nobody will suspect this TRASH11 folder is secretly recording all of their email conversations!

  • (cs) in reply to ObiWayneKenobi

    Please please PLEASE don't bring up MFD. It brings back nightmares and it might prompt Alex to begin doing them again.

  • (cs)
    If The President sent someone an email, he wanted to know exactly when his message was read.
    A president who thinks that such information could ever, in any way, qualify as useful is not a good president.

    Since this is a classic WTF from 2007, I'm curious to know what happened to the company in the story. I can't imagine a company would remain all that successful with a nutjob president working full-time monitoring every employee's email.

  • TheAngryBeast (unregistered) in reply to boog

    Wow... theres some thing to be said about monitoring email... but really? What do you gain...

    Captcha: ullamcorper

  • (cs) in reply to RHuckster
    RHuckster:
    Please please *PLEASE* don't bring up MFD. It brings back nightmares and it might prompt Alex to begin doing them again.

    MFD itself may have been pretty terrible (though it got way better in the second season), but the comments were the best content this site has ever seen.

    Bring back MFD!

  • (cs) in reply to ObiWayneKenobi
    ObiWayneKenobi:
    I'm imagining Mr. Magenta (from MFD - speaking of which, aren't we due for Season 3 of that?)
    Don't even joke about that.
  • Todd Lewis (unregistered) in reply to boog
    boog:
    Since this is a classic WTF from 2007, I'm curious to know what happened to the company in the story. I can't imagine a company would remain all that successful with a nutjob president working full-time monitoring every employee's email.

    One can only hope Oracle bought them.

  • Anon (unregistered) in reply to Justice
    Justice:
    RHuckster:
    Please please *PLEASE* don't bring up MFD. It brings back nightmares and it might prompt Alex to begin doing them again.

    MFD itself may have been pretty terrible (though it got way better in the second season), but the comments were the best content this site has ever seen.

    Bring back MFD!

    Seconded! Bring back MFD! When TDWFT was running MFD, it was the first site I'd check in the morning and I'd check back multiple times during the day (to see the new comments). Since they got rid of it, TDWFT has dropped to about 5th or 6th on my list with revisits much less likely.

    I think they stopped in out of genuinely hurt feelings because their comic sucked and everybody said so, but the comments were absolutely hilarious. Come on TDWFT, swallow your pride and let us make fun of your ham-fisted drawings again!

  • Machtyn (unregistered) in reply to TheAngryBeast
    TheAngryBeast:
    Wow... theres some thing to be said about monitoring email... but really? What do you gain...

    Captcha: ullamcorper

    A loss of employees. I worked at a company that monitored instant messages, e-mails, and browsing history. Two of my co-workers were written up for passing a quick joke over IM. I wasn't warned specifically, but generally, that encrypting IM messages was "ba-ad". Fortunately, I got a smart-phone shortly thereafter and I could be a content employee again, able to send a message or two to the wife when needed and without fear of snooping by the big boss.

    My immediate manager was very sad to see me go, I was sad to leave them in the situation I did (I enjoyed the work and my co-workers). But I'm still recovering from that job and realizing it can be fun to go to work and to be pleased with my surroundings.

  • (cs) in reply to Anon
    Anon:
    Justice:
    RHuckster:
    Please please *PLEASE* don't bring up MFD. It brings back nightmares and it might prompt Alex to begin doing them again.

    MFD itself may have been pretty terrible (though it got way better in the second season), but the comments were the best content this site has ever seen.

    Bring back MFD!

    Seconded! Bring back MFD! When TDWFT was running MFD, it was the first site I'd check in the morning and I'd check back multiple times during the day (to see the new comments). Since they got rid of it, TDWFT has dropped to about 5th or 6th on my list with revisits much less likely.

    I think they stopped in out of genuinely hurt feelings because their comic sucked and everybody said so, but the comments were absolutely hilarious. Come on TDWFT, swallow your pride and let us make fun of your ham-fisted drawings again!

    I third this.

  • Two (unregistered) in reply to Todd Lewis
    Todd Lewis:
    boog:
    Since this is a classic WTF from 2007, I'm curious to know what happened to the company in the story. I can't imagine a company would remain all that successful with a nutjob president working full-time monitoring every employee's email.

    One can only hope Oracle bought them.

    I wouldn't wish that on my worst enemy.

  • Patrick (unregistered)

    After that last email, everyone should have started emailing each other about how stupid and disrespectful the president was. And start discussions about leaving if it doesn't stop.

  • (cs) in reply to Patrick
    Patrick:
    After that last email, everyone should have started emailing each other about how stupid and disrespectful the president was. And start discussions about leaving if it doesn't stop.

    That would probably have the opposite effect...

    Magenta: What?! The peons are talking bad about me?! And threatening to leave?!?! Inconceivable! Jenkins, lock the doors. And double the workload. I will NOT have my EMPLOYEES speak to me that way.

    Any "President" paranoid enough to snoop on everybody would turn into a tyrant if people were deliberately talking badly about him; after all HE can't be the problem, he's THE BOSS.

  • Ralph (unregistered)
    copy every incoming ... email message into a mailbox discretely called TRASH11
    And here I thought SPAM had no value... but someone, I'm not saying who, might visit a whole bunch of websites and get on a whole bunch of mailing lists and give Mr. President some entertaining reading material...
  • Iie (unregistered) in reply to Fred
    Fred:
    I once had a Trash-80 computer. But Trash-11? That's even before my time.

    I think it was PDP-11.

  • Keith Brawner (unregistered) in reply to Spectre
    Spectre:
    Anon:
    Justice:
    RHuckster:
    Please please *PLEASE* don't bring up MFD. It brings back nightmares and it might prompt Alex to begin doing them again.

    MFD itself may have been pretty terrible (though it got way better in the second season), but the comments were the best content this site has ever seen.

    Bring back MFD!

    Seconded! Bring back MFD! When TDWFT was running MFD, it was the first site I'd check in the morning and I'd check back multiple times during the day (to see the new comments). Since they got rid of it, TDWFT has dropped to about 5th or 6th on my list with revisits much less likely.

    I think they stopped in out of genuinely hurt feelings because their comic sucked and everybody said so, but the comments were absolutely hilarious. Come on TDWFT, swallow your pride and let us make fun of your ham-fisted drawings again!

    I third this.

    Fourth'd - the comics sucked, but the comments were among the most hilarious things on the internets. I even contributed once and got a sticker. I pine for the golden days of TDWTF/MFD.

  • Fred (unregistered) in reply to Fred

    By the way I loved my Trash-80. And by love, of course, I mean I wanted to empty a magazine into whoever wrote the software...

    There was a word processing program that silently and automatically saved each page of your document to a separate file... on your 8 inch floppy disk. That got interesting when you tried to insert a paragraph in the middle of page one, because the paragraph formerly known as the bottom of page one had to be deleted (disk seek, disk seek...) then inserted at the top of page two (disk seek, disk seek...) pushing some text off the bottom of page two (disk seek, disk seek...) and I think you can see where this is going. But the designers couldn't.

    Anyway the really charming feature (and by charming I mean... oh, never mind) was that page five automatically and silently overwrote page one!

  • Kevin (unregistered)

    there's an easy solution here. all the people who know about this subscribe themselves to multiple email lists and then make rules to file them straight into the trash. when the noise level gets too high snooping becomes a time waster

  • wcw (unregistered) in reply to Machtyn
    Machtyn:
    I worked at a company that monitored instant messages, e-mails, and browsing history... But I'm still recovering from that job

    I took a contract with a guy whose 'company' had every single email 'address' routed to a single mailbox. Emails were printed out, skimmed by the head guy then passed out to the addressee on hardcopy. Replies emanated from a single PC and likewise were printed and read.

    He's still around. He has one longterm partner, a dozen or so interns whom he works like dogs, and a succession of contractors who turn over fast. When he terminated my contract, I took a look at that single outbox. The new contract was for $5 more than mine -- with the proviso that hours beyond forty each week be unpaid 'training'.

    Interestingly, our most recent hire was one of these contractors for the requisite few weeks. Like me, she doesn't appear to miss working for Sunny even a little bit. But who would?

  • SyntaxError (unregistered)

    Just use a webmail service like gmail and avoid the company email servers like the plague. Then setup a box with a java program that periodically sends emails of how great the boss is and also the occasional random and fake bug report. Problem solved. The President still thinks hes "monitoring" emails and everyone can go about their work day unhindered.

  • Foo (unregistered) in reply to Keith Brawner
    Keith Brawner:
    Spectre:
    Anon:
    Justice:
    RHuckster:
    Please please *PLEASE* don't bring up MFD. It brings back nightmares and it might prompt Alex to begin doing them again.

    MFD itself may have been pretty terrible (though it got way better in the second season), but the comments were the best content this site has ever seen.

    Bring back MFD!

    Seconded! Bring back MFD! When TDWFT was running MFD, it was the first site I'd check in the morning and I'd check back multiple times during the day (to see the new comments). Since they got rid of it, TDWFT has dropped to about 5th or 6th on my list with revisits much less likely.

    I think they stopped in out of genuinely hurt feelings because their comic sucked and everybody said so, but the comments were absolutely hilarious. Come on TDWFT, swallow your pride and let us make fun of your ham-fisted drawings again!

    I third this.

    Fourth'd - the comics sucked, but the comments were among the most hilarious things on the internets. I even contributed once and got a sticker. I pine for the golden days of TDWTF/MFD.

    Better idea: Just post some boxes with random assortments of random figures and let the commenters fill it all in. This way we get the good stuff without the evil.

  • Me (unregistered)

    Ummm.... Why did you delete my last comment? And the one inquiring about the deletion?

  • Anon (unregistered) in reply to Foo
    Foo:
    Better idea: Just post some boxes with random assortments of random figures and let the commenters fill it all in. This way we get the good stuff without the evil.

    But...we....likes....the evil stuff! We need the evil as a jumping off point. Mr Magenta would agree.

  • (cs) in reply to Two
    Two:
    Todd Lewis:
    One can only hope Oracle bought them.

    I wouldn't wish that on my worst enemy.

    Wouldn't matter to me. Oracle is my worst enemy.

  • Ken B. (unregistered) in reply to Patrick
    Patrick:
    After that last email, everyone should have started emailing each other about how stupid and disrespectful the president was. And start discussions about leaving if it doesn't stop.
    What about having the TRASH11 box send an email to itself, with a return receipt request? Hopefully, The President mandated that the server be (mis)configured, and will send itself a return receipt to confirm that it received the return receipt. And when he starts deleting all those receipts, each will generate a "deleted" message, which in turn will generate a confirmation message.

    Lather, rinse, repeat.

  • Vlad Patryshev (unregistered)

    I have a confession to make. I did exploit this system once. When I heard from a coworker (whose name I'll omit) that at Borland they are reading all our emails, I decided to use it. Created a yahoo account under an imaginary Russian name, and sent an email to myself, inviting myself to a nice startup to a good position of senior architect or something, with options, etc. And responded it, saying that, oh, sorry man, I love my job here so much; the only problem is my salary... My salary was raised by 20k two weeks later. That's after a couple of years of my fruitless whining.

  • nick (unregistered)

    This comment has been deleted before being read.

  • The Boss (unregistered)

    Monitor emails. LIKE A BOSS TRASH11. LIKE A BOSS Email Receipts. LIKE A BOSS

  • ca-ca-ca-ca-ca-chameleon (unregistered) in reply to Two
    Two:
    Todd Lewis:
    boog:
    Since this is a classic WTF from 2007, I'm curious to know what happened to the company in the story. I can't imagine a company would remain all that successful with a nutjob president working full-time monitoring every employee's email.

    One can only hope Oracle bought them.

    I wouldn't wish that on my worst enemy.

    Whats the point of having a worst enemy if you don't wish the absolute worst things on them?

  • (cs) in reply to Vlad Patryshev
    Vlad Patryshev:
    I have a confession to make. I did exploit this system once. When I heard from a coworker (whose name I'll omit) that at Borland they are reading all our emails, I decided to use it. Created a yahoo account under an imaginary Russian name, and sent an email to myself, inviting myself to a nice startup to a good position of senior architect or something, with options, etc. And responded it, saying that, oh, sorry man, I love my job here so much; the only problem is my salary... My salary was raised by 20k two weeks later. That's after a couple of years of my fruitless whining.

    20K Rubles?

  • (cs) in reply to Foo

    Another vote for the return of MFD. I just don't have time for fun unless it's mandated. :(

  • Xanni (unregistered)

    "discreetly" is not the same as "discretely". Lrn2dictionaryOK.

    Yrs, Pedantic

  • ÃÆâ€℠(unregistered) in reply to Vlad Patryshev
    Vlad Patryshev:
    I have a confession to make. I did exploit this system once. When I heard from a coworker (whose name I'll omit) that at Borland they are reading all our emails, I decided to use it. Created a yahoo account under an imaginary Russian name, and sent an email to myself, inviting myself to a nice startup to a good position of senior architect or something, with options, etc. And responded it, saying that, oh, sorry man, I love my job here so much; the only problem is my salary... My salary was raised by 20k two weeks later. That's after a couple of years of my fruitless whining.
    That's great. Did you stop there? Is there more?
  • Otherside (unregistered)

    I find it strange that nobody brought up the aspect of privacy. Here in Belgium it is illegal to read emails or look at browsing history from an employee without their knowledge. If the company would want to do that kind of monitoring they would have to announce it and add a clause to everybody's contract

  • (cs)

    I saw a group faced with a similarly paranoid figurehead once and their collective response was to enact plans they had been discussing only in theory.

    A significant group of them turned in resignations - all in the same envelope - indicating that they could not work for someone who would tell such an obvious and known falsehood. The went out and started their own, competing company and took a chunk of the book of business with them.

  • (cs) in reply to Keith Brawner
    Keith Brawner:
    Spectre:
    Anon:
    Justice:
    RHuckster:
    Please please *PLEASE* don't bring up MFD. It brings back nightmares and it might prompt Alex to begin doing them again.

    MFD itself may have been pretty terrible (though it got way better in the second season), but the comments were the best content this site has ever seen.

    Bring back MFD!

    Seconded! Bring back MFD! When TDWFT was running MFD, it was the first site I'd check in the morning and I'd check back multiple times during the day (to see the new comments). Since they got rid of it, TDWFT has dropped to about 5th or 6th on my list with revisits much less likely.

    I think they stopped in out of genuinely hurt feelings because their comic sucked and everybody said so, but the comments were absolutely hilarious. Come on TDWFT, swallow your pride and let us make fun of your ham-fisted drawings again!

    I third this.

    Fourth'd - the comics sucked, but the comments were among the most hilarious things on the internets. I even contributed once and got a sticker. I pine for the golden days of TDWTF/MFD.

    Fifth'd! Opening up paint.net and taking the weewee out of a shoddy unfunny comic and enjoying the other awesome entries was the best thing about the site. Plus it gave me something to do at work before lunch.

  • Randy Snicker (unregistered) in reply to TheAngryBeast
    TheAngryBeast:
    Wow... theres some thing to be said about monitoring email... but really? What do you gain...

    If the president really doesn't want to miss out on any offers for increasing "his size", then surely this is the only logical course of action.

  • TimG (unregistered) in reply to Otherside
    Otherside:
    I find it strange that nobody brought up the aspect of privacy. Here in Belgium it is illegal to read emails or look at browsing history from an employee without their knowledge. If the company would want to do that kind of monitoring they would have to announce it and add a clause to everybody's contract
    What is this "contract" of which you speak?

    Presumably the story comes from the US, where in most states employers are free to abuse the privacy and dignity of their employees and the employees are at-will. "At-will" meaning "we can fire you at any time for any reason and unless you can prove we've done it in a way that discriminates against a federally-protected class, you can fuck off." This system also has the advantage in that good employees are welcome to leave the company to get better jobs or become contractors/consultants, and poor employees or those constrained by outside circumstances stay behind and provide fodder for this site. Win-win.

  • Yazeran (unregistered) in reply to Fred
    Fred:
    By the way I loved my Trash-80. And by love, of course, I mean I wanted to empty a magazine into whoever wrote the software...

    There was a word processing program that silently and automatically saved each page of your document to a separate file... on your 8 inch floppy disk. That got interesting when you tried to insert a paragraph in the middle of page one, because the paragraph formerly known as the bottom of page one had to be deleted (disk seek, disk seek...) then inserted at the top of page two (disk seek, disk seek...) pushing some text off the bottom of page two (disk seek, disk seek...) and I think you can see where this is going. But the designers couldn't.

    Anyway the really charming feature (and by charming I mean... oh, never mind) was that page five automatically and silently overwrote page one!

    Oh wow! that just have to be the record for evil behavior!! Pitr would be proud :-)

    Yours Yazeran

    Plan: To go to Mars one day with a hammer

  • (cs) in reply to Justice
    Justice:
    MFD itself may have been pretty terrible (though it got way better in the second season), but the comments were the best content this site has ever seen.

    Bring back the MFD comments!

    FTFY.

    I also loved the comments to MFD. What's not to love about a crowd-sourced comic strip?

  • BentFranklin (unregistered)

    If you learn that someone is snooping on you and they don't know you know, there are many ways to turn the tables on them. The movie The Rainmaker had an amusing example.

  • Robo (unregistered) in reply to TimG

    Exactly. I always assume that my employer (in the U.S.) is reading my emails and monitoring my browsing history on any machine owned by the company. At a .com business there are usually a web analytics team devoted to monitoring users who come to our site. It would be trivial for them to monitor and analyze employee web activity. However, my guess is nobody cares what you do as long as you aren't causing any problems.

  • (cs)

    Bring back MFD, so that hate can be tunneled! Instead of fighting with each other, we could laugh at the strips, using nothing but sarcasm and wit. We felt catharsis when we could mentally spit at them. Throw stones of sarcasm and rocks of wit at them. Wait a minute... Bring back stoning! Stoning rocks!

    [A bass-boosted "Welcome to the jungle" playing loudly off screen] HORATIO:

    • YEEEAAAARGHHHH! [Pan view.] [A group of drunken commenters laughing hysterically cleaning rocks] KISS ME IM POLISH:
    • Mine is polished now.
  • Martin (unregistered) in reply to dgvid
    dgvid:
    Justice:
    MFD itself may have been pretty terrible (though it got way better in the second season), but the comments were the best content this site has ever seen.

    Bring back the MFD comments!

    FTFY.

    I also loved the comments to MFD. What's not to love about a crowd-sourced comic strip?

    I remember the contests about writing a best dialogue for each strip. I won the "best" dialog ("less worse" would be better, IMHO), but never received anything for it. I DEMAND A MEDAL, DAMMIT!

  • frits (unregistered) in reply to dgvid
    dgvid:
    Justice:
    MFD itself may have been pretty terrible (though it got way better in the second season), but the comments were the best content this site has ever seen.

    Bring back the MFD comments!

    FTFY.

    I also loved the comments to MFD. What's not to love about a crowd-sourced comic strip?

    Better yet, why not create a crowd-sourced daily wtf? The only thing that sucks more than this story (and the grammer is atrocious, btw) is the fact that theirs not a new article today. What's the deal?
  • (cs) in reply to frits
    frits:
    dgvid:
    Justice:
    MFD itself may have been pretty terrible (though it got way better in the second season), but the comments were the best content this site has ever seen.

    Bring back the MFD comments!

    FTFY.

    I also loved the comments to MFD. What's not to love about a crowd-sourced comic strip?

    Better yet, why not create a crowd-sourced daily wtf? The only thing that sucks more than this story (and the grammer is atrocious, btw) is the fact that they're's not a new article today. What's the deal?

    FTFY.

  • (cs) in reply to Someone You Know
    Someone You Know:
    frits:
    dgvid:
    Justice:
    MFD itself may have been pretty terrible (though it got way better in the second season), but the comments were the best content this site has ever seen.

    Bring back the MFD comments!

    FTFY.

    I also loved the comments to MFD. What's not to love about a crowd-sourced comic strip?

    Better yet, why not create a crowd-sourced daily wtf? The only thing that sucks more than this story (and the grahamer is atrocious, btw) is the fact that they're's not a new article today. What's the deal?

    FTFY.

    FTFY

  • (cs) in reply to frits
    frits:
    ... Better yet, why not create a crowd-sourced daily wtf? ...
    See those link on the left side of the page under the "Side Bar WTF" header? Click one of those.
  • rycamor (unregistered)

    At my second web startup job, back in 2000, the president once decided he was going to read everyone's mail. Unfortunately, he had also decided that his email client would have an autoresponder exclaiming about how wonderful our (unreleased) product was, and how you should expect regular updates as to its progress.

    Well, he happened to decide this on the evening after I signed up to the main PHP users' mailing list. The next morning at work I received a flood of angry emails from PHP users (and PHP core team members) about how I was spamming the system, and finally a mail from Rasmus Lerdorf himself telling me I had been blocked. It took me a few minutes to figure out that the boss had of course received several hundred emails from the list and his client had responded to every participant multiple times. GAHHH!! Talk about major nerd embarrassment...

    Fortunately I managed to get the boss to cease this behavior, even though he couldn't understand what everyone was so upset about. Then I emailed Rasmus explaining the situation and begging to be allowed back on the list. He consented, with the proviso that I "knock the moron on the head once more, for me."

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