• (cs)

    Where's fake boog with his addictive affinity for Antarctic Aves asphyxiation when you need him?

  • (cs)

    Also (since I should make a comment more relevant to the contents of the article), the WTF Unplugged sounds fun. It's a shame thought that it will only be a reading; it would be phenomenal to see it acted out as a skit. Maybe keep that in mind for future conferences with TDWTF-related activities.

  • (cs)

    Typo alert! At least I think it is. "Digest you design documents..." I'm not entirely sure what that means.

    Anyway, sounds like another bunch of great talks being given on totally the wrong side of the country to me.

    The Pitch a WTF roundtable does remind me, though, that there's a wtf I really need to dig up the code from out of svn. It was like a year ago; I can't remember for sure whether it was taking order n^3 or only n^2 (on the number of lines) to read from a well-defined text config file, but either way, it was kind of terrible. I still remember going WTF when I was given that tool to fix some bugs in.)

  • (cs)

    "An high-level" I hope that's a typo or an intentional WTF. I mean, seriously? H is a consonant, not a vowel, and this isn't French. Unless you pronounce it "An eye-level", it should be written as "A high-level". /petpeeve

  • JJ (unregistered)

    "An historical" is also wrong. Is it NOT an "exception to the rule," regardless of what snooty people may think.

  • Your Name (unregistered) in reply to JJ
    JJ:
    "An historical" is also wrong. Is it NOT an "exception to the rule," regardless of what snooty people may think.
    Snooty people pronounce it "'istorical", presumably with a fake British accent, so it might actually be correct for them.
  • (cs)

    Will there be videos of the first and third event on the interwebz?

  • Dave-Sir (unregistered) in reply to JJ
    JJ:
    "An historical" is also wrong. Is it NOT an "exception to the rule," regardless of what snooty people may think.
    I've been trying to come up with a proper response to this for a hour, but I just can't think of one.

    But you're right, it's not an exception to the rule, rather an illustration of it.

  • Your Name (unregistered) in reply to Dave-Sir
    Dave-Sir:
    JJ:
    "An historical" is also wrong. Is it NOT an "exception to the rule," regardless of what snooty people may think.
    I've been trying to come up with a proper response to this for a hour, but I just can't think of one.

    But you're right, it's not an exception to the rule, rather an illustration of it.

    You use "An" when the word begins with a vowel sound and "A" when the word begins with a consonant sound. It's got nothing to do with the spelling of the word, it's pronunciation-dependent.

    The arguments come in because British people treat the opening "H" in "History" as silent, and Americans generally do not. Hilarity and hijinks ensue. Well, probably not more than one. Maybe just an hijink.

    Of course, we programmers all know that the natural languages are all bullshit anyway, so whatever. If I'm going to bitch about C++'s grammar being ridiculously and needlessly complex I'm certainly not going to correct someone else's English.

  • stinerman (unregistered) in reply to JJ

    And the people who say re-zource-ful instead of re-source-ful. I want to slap them in their head.

  • (cs)

    The real WTF is the guy who jumped in the pool after.

  • Cap'n Spanky (unregistered) in reply to Matt Westwood
    Matt Westwood:
    The real WTF is the guy who jumped in the pool after.
    That was a guy? I feel so dirty now.
  • Anon (unregistered) in reply to Your Name
    Your Name:
    You use "An" when the word begins with a vowel sound and "A" when the word begins with a consonant sound. It's got nothing to do with the spelling of the word, it's pronunciation-dependent.

    The arguments come in because British people treat the opening "H" in "History" as silent, and Americans generally do not. Hilarity and hijinks ensue. Well, probably not more than one. Maybe just an hijink.

    As a [former] British person I have to disagree. It should always be "a history" and never "an history" both written and in speech. You would never drop the "h" in history and I say that despite being dead common (somebody who might accidentally lapse and say something like "innit 'ot in 'ere"). I also believe it should always be "a" followed by a word starting with a consonant regardless of how it would be pronounced.

  • Anon (unregistered) in reply to Anon

    Oh, and TRWTF is Michigan right? But at least it ain't Cleveland.

  • anonymouser (unregistered) in reply to Matt Westwood
    Matt Westwood:
    The real WTF is the guy who jumped in the pool after.
    The real WTF is that the guy is referred to as "She" several times. I'd be a little pissed if I was that guy, but he didn't seem to mind at all. Maybe he accepts it because he has boobs.
  • Your Name (unregistered) in reply to Anon
    Anon:
    I also believe it should always be "a" followed by a word starting with a consonant regardless of how it would be pronounced.

    No, because "A hour" is just as awkward as "An herring". Just say them in your head.

  • (cs) in reply to anonymouser
    anonymouser:
    Matt Westwood:
    The real WTF is the guy who jumped in the pool after.
    The real WTF is that the guy is referred to as "She" several times. I'd be a little pissed if I was that guy, but he didn't seem to mind at all. Maybe he accepts it because he has boobs.

    Whoops sorry, was watching it with the sound turned off so as not to disturb the household, and the pic is somewhat grainy and my eyesight ain't what it used to be. No worries, stroll on.

  • Dave-Sir (unregistered) in reply to Your Name
    Your Name:
    Dave-Sir:
    JJ:
    "An historical" is also wrong. Is it NOT an "exception to the rule," regardless of what snooty people may think.
    I've been trying to come up with a proper response to this for a hour, but I just can't think of one.

    But you're right, it's not an exception to the rule, rather an illustration of it.

    You use "An" when the word begins with a vowel sound and "A" when the word begins with a consonant sound. It's got nothing to do with the spelling of the word, it's pronunciation-dependent.

    The arguments come in because British people treat the opening "H" in "History" as silent, and Americans generally do not. Hilarity and hijinks ensue. Well, probably not more than one. Maybe just an hijink.

    Of course, we programmers all know that the natural languages are all bullshit anyway, so whatever. If I'm going to bitch about C++'s grammar being ridiculously and needlessly complex I'm certainly not going to correct someone else's English.

    Which is what I said, if you read carefully enough.

    I don't think it has anything to do with "British". I was born and raised in the U.S. Midwest, but I might discuss an historic occasion described in a history book.

    And C++'s syntax is really very simple. The semantics, however...

    In 'artford, 'ereford, and 'ampshire, 'urricanes 'ardly HEVER 'appen!

  • (cs) in reply to derula
    boog:
    Also (since I should make a comment more relevant to the contents of the article), the WTF Unplugged sounds fun. It's a shame thought that it will only be a reading; it would be phenomenal to see it acted out as a skit. Maybe keep that in mind for future conferences with TDWTF-related activities.

    Cool idea.

    derula:
    Will there be videos of the first and third event on the interwebz?

    I'll inquire with ConCom on the 29th.

  • (cs) in reply to imgx64
    imgx64:
    "An high-level" I hope that's a typo or an intentional WTF. I mean, seriously? H is a consonant, not a vowel, and this isn't French. Unless you pronounce it "An eye-level", it should be written as "A high-level". /petpeeve

    I just put that there to give people something to talk about until the 29th.

    Yup.

  • Bob (unregistered)

    I am going to stay far away of anything that will bring a lot of Linux guys together and then promises "swordfighting"

  • Dan Neely (unregistered) in reply to Matt Westwood
    Matt Westwood:
    The real WTF is the guy who jumped in the pool after.

    The LN2 would evaporate immediately on making contact with the water, and that was only enough to make a batch of ice cream. Across an entire swimming pool it's not going to have any meaningful effects.

  • Dan Neely (unregistered)

    General question, when'd you get added to the guest list? When I was planning my cons for the 2011 back around the newyear I didn't see you on it, and unfortunately it's rather late for me to try and get there now.

  • anonymous (unregistered)

    Elusive, adj. Doing virtually anything other than smashing all mugs on sight.

    It's a mug only a mother could love

  • (cs) in reply to Dan Neely
    Dan Neely:
    General question, when'd you get added to the guest list? When I was planning my cons for the 2011 back around the newyear I didn't see you on it, and unfortunately it's rather late for me to try and get there now.

    I first heard of Penguicon three weeks ago... and they aparantly figure out the details much closer than most.

  • korvaks (unregistered) in reply to Anon

    [quote user="Anon"][quote user="Your Name"] I also believe it should always be "a" followed by a word starting with a consonant regardless of how it would be pronounced. [/quote]

    So you are ok with the phrase "An Unicorn"?

  • Xythar (unregistered) in reply to korvaks

    [quote user="korvaks"][quote user="Anon"][quote user="Your Name"] I also believe it should always be "a" followed by a word starting with a consonant regardless of how it would be pronounced. [/quote]

    So you are ok with the phrase "An Unicorn"?[/quote]

    No, because there's no such thing as an unicorn.

  • Dr Unicorn (unregistered) in reply to Xythar

    [quote user="Xythar"][quote user="korvaks"][quote user="Anon"][quote user="Your Name"] I also believe it should always be "a" followed by a word starting with a consonant regardless of how it would be pronounced. [/quote]

    So you are ok with the phrase "An Unicorn"?[/quote]

    No, because there's no such thing as an unicorn.[/quote]

    Well played, sir!

    causa: causa lotta trouble!

  • itsmo (unregistered) in reply to JJ
    JJ:
    "An historical" is also wrong. Is it NOT an "exception to the rule," regardless of what snooty people may think.

    Similarly 'an herb' regardless of what Californians think...

  • (cs)

    "When was the last time you heard about MS AjaxToolkit?" "About what?" "Exactly."

  • Wody (unregistered)

    Te real WTF is that the schedule wasn't printed and photohraphed on a wooden table. Am I right or what?

  • (cs) in reply to stinerman
    stinerman:
    And the people who say re-zource-ful instead of re-source-ful. I want to slap them in their head.
    That's not HALF as annoying as people who say 'irregardless'!
  • Your Retarded (unregistered)

    Are we talking here about a stealthy or dishonest mountain? Inquisitive minds wish to know!

  • iToad (unregistered) in reply to Bob
    Bob:
    I am going to stay far away of anything that will bring a lot of Linux guys together and then promises "swordfighting"

    Do you have any brain bleach left? I seem to have run out of it.

  • (cs) in reply to Bob
    Bob:
    I am going to stay far away of anything that will bring a lot of Linux guys together and then promises "swordfighting"

    If simple swords scare you, then you might not want to know about the Geeks with Guns event they're running...

  • (cs) in reply to Lorne Kates
    Lorne Kates:
    Bob:
    I am going to stay far away of anything that will bring a lot of Linux guys together and then promises "swordfighting"

    If simple swords scare you, then you might not want to know about the Geeks with Guns event they're running...

    The euphemism is analogous? (This is my rifle, this is my gun...)

  • (cs) in reply to Your Name
    Your Name:
    Anon:
    I also believe it should always be "a" followed by a word starting with a consonant regardless of how it would be pronounced.

    No, because "A hour" is just as awkward as "An herring". Just say them in your head.

    1:59 of this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f1oMhMwUbgc

  • ShitStirrer (unregistered)

    Where will we post comments after WTF Unplugged?
    What if we really want to get into a fight with someone?

    Or do we have until the article is posted to plan our witty remarks like 'Frist', 'brillant' and 'something gratuitous about the Irish Girl'?

    Will the Irish Girl be there?

  • Dan Neely (unregistered) in reply to Alex Papadimoulis
    Alex Papadimoulis:
    Dan Neely:
    General question, when'd you get added to the guest list? When I was planning my cons for the 2011 back around the newyear I didn't see you on it, and unfortunately it's rather late for me to try and get there now.

    I first heard of Penguicon three weeks ago... and they aparantly figure out the details much closer than most.

    Ouch. Seems like they're having problems this year. I've attended twice, in 2010 and in 2008(07??). My first trip was awesome, last years was a bit of a disappointment. The computer track was decent, but the science/general geekery ones were meh, and the SF track (my primary interest) was a total loss.

    PS If they haven't warned you, expect the hotel wifi to curl up and die by mid afternoon Friday.

  • Some Wierd Characters and some strange ones too (unregistered) in reply to SQLDave
    SQLDave:
    Your Name:
    Anon:
    I also believe it should always be "a" followed by a word starting with a consonant regardless of how it would be pronounced.

    No, because "A hour" is just as awkward as "An herring". Just say them in your head.

    1:59 of this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f1oMhMwUbgc

    Ah yes, pronnunciation.

    Four Candles? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qu9MptWyCB8

  • (cs) in reply to Dan Neely
    Dan Neely:
    Alex Papadimoulis:
    Dan Neely:
    General question, when'd you get added to the guest list? When I was planning my cons for the 2011 back around the newyear I didn't see you on it, and unfortunately it's rather late for me to try and get there now.

    I first heard of Penguicon three weeks ago... and they aparantly figure out the details much closer than most.

    Ouch. Seems like they're having problems this year. I've attended twice, in 2010 and in 2008(07??). My first trip was awesome, last years was a bit of a disappointment. The computer track was decent, but the science/general geekery ones were meh, and the SF track (my primary interest) was a total loss.

    PS If they haven't warned you, expect the hotel wifi to curl up and die by mid afternoon Friday.

    Worth noting about the SF/literary tracks: All three members of Writing Excuses will be there, and there will be a podcast taping.

  • Krunal Desai (unregistered) in reply to Dan Neely
    Dan Neely:
    Alex Papadimoulis:
    Dan Neely:
    General question, when'd you get added to the guest list? When I was planning my cons for the 2011 back around the newyear I didn't see you on it, and unfortunately it's rather late for me to try and get there now.

    I first heard of Penguicon three weeks ago... and they aparantly figure out the details much closer than most.

    Ouch. Seems like they're having problems this year. I've attended twice, in 2010 and in 2008(07??). My first trip was awesome, last years was a bit of a disappointment. The computer track was decent, but the science/general geekery ones were meh, and the SF track (my primary interest) was a total loss.

    PS If they haven't warned you, expect the hotel wifi to curl up and die by mid afternoon Friday.

    Actually, it was my bad as a lazy track head in contacting Alex this late =/ I actually always assumed Alex & Co. were west coast until seeing the Notacon mention.

    From the looks of it, there is renewed life in the SF this year (I am not a SF expert, but it looks good!)

  • Dan Neely (unregistered) in reply to Krunal Desai
    Krunal Desai:
    Actually, it was my bad as a lazy track head in contacting Alex this late =/ I actually always assumed Alex & Co. were west coast until seeing the Notacon mention.

    From the looks of it, there is renewed life in the SF this year (I am not a SF expert, but it looks good!)

    Moot point now, because it's too late for me to schedule time off of work.

    FYI The biggest visual problem I have with this years website is that there doesn't appear to be a full guest list anywhere, although one could be extracted from the program grid now. The lack of anything like that was a major factor in my decision in December/January to spend this years con dollars elsewhere.

  • Brian White (unregistered)

    "Specific recommendations of libraries/frameworks to showcase the usefulness of open-source to closed-source shops. (e.g. showing how to replace dozens of lines of javascript with a single line of jQuery,"

    I'm sure that jQuery is nice and all, but it's not any more open source than the dozen lines of javascript are, since javascript has an official standard.

  • Simon Schama (unregistered) in reply to JJ
    JJ:
    "An historical" is also wrong. Is it NOT an "exception to the rule," regardless of what snooty people may think.

    As an historian I can tell you that this has been the recommended pronunciation since 1883.

  • Mark (unregistered)

    The fact that Linux is popular is the real WTF.

    It was a good try but I don't understand why it's still around

  • Mike (unregistered)

    Will the live reading include typos?

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