• Taro (unregistered)

    And it's not even the last Friday of the month!

  • faoileag (unregistered)

    tl;dr What is the wtf supposed to be?

    That log rotation was missing in the first place?

    That Burt called an emergency meeting of the DBAs in a conference room?

    The fact that even when everyone is on the hunt for a [s]wumpus[/s]DBA, they don't find him?

    I think it was Burt. Clueless managers are SOP.

  • Anon (unregistered)

    haha Taro - I saw what you did there!

  • ANON (unregistered) in reply to faoileag
    faoileag:
    tl;dr What is the wtf supposed to be?

    I'm also not sure. Maybe we should have a meeting to discuss it.

  • Ziplodocus (unregistered) in reply to ANON
    ANON:
    faoileag:
    tl;dr What is the wtf supposed to be?

    I'm also not sure. Maybe we should have a meeting to discuss it.

    Lets arrange a meeting to discuss the best time to arrange a meeting.

  • Pseudonym (unregistered) in reply to Ziplodocus

    But will we know when to attend this meeting? Should we discuss it in a meeting?

  • (cs) in reply to Ziplodocus
    Ziplodocus:
    Lets arrange a meeting to discuss the best time to arrange a meeting.

    HOLD IT RIGHT THERE, MISTER!

    There is no way you are allowed to perform such a monumentally idiotic waste of time.

    You have to clear this with the dean first.

    Seriously, why is this what to expect from academically distinguished people?

  • faoileag (unregistered) in reply to Pseudonym
    Pseudonym:
    But will we know when to attend this meeting? Should we discuss it in a meeting?
    Defenitely. We should hold a meeting whose purpose it is to organize the meeting that we need to organize a meeting to discuss the wtf of today's article.

    Could someone please bring donuts?

  • Mike R. (unregistered) in reply to faoileag

    Let's have a meeting to discuss what flavors of donuts to bring to the meeting.

  • (cs)

    I don't see the WTF. Did Alex and Remy held a meeting to discuss this article?

  • Anonymous (unregistered) in reply to faoileag
    faoileag:
    tl;dr What is the wtf supposed to be?

    Seriously, I wouldn't want these articles to include a tl;dr concluding the wtf.

  • Kabi (unregistered) in reply to Mike R.

    Help, I don't know how to attend or start to meetings. Could someone plan a meeting to teach us how to attend meetings?

  • someone (unregistered) in reply to Kabi

    just press the "accept" button in outlook. I believe that's how it works.

    though sometimes that results in managers shouting about why you werent there

  • (cs)

    Obviously it's the fact that when the DB went wrong, the guy in charge took all of his techs away from the problem and locked them out from solving it (until they had a plan to solve it), without anyone being allowed to triage the issue.

    It's like getting to Accident & Emergency, only to find the staff won't see you until they're 100% sure what's wrong.

  • Maj najm (unregistered) in reply to Ziplodocus
    Ziplodocus:
    ANON:
    faoileag:
    tl;dr What is the wtf supposed to be?

    I'm also not sure. Maybe we should have a meeting to discuss it.

    Lets arrange a meeting to discuss the best time to arrange a meeting.

    I've actually been dragged into a meeting where the sole point on the agenda was to decide when a meeting could be held. At the time I was working on a top priority issue that was causing revenue loss in the millions per hour. the meeting planned was to agree that everyone was working on what they said they were working on, pretty much. And everyone that was to be called to the meeting being planned was on the ad hoc meeting for planning the meeting. The meeting planning meeting lasted an hour.

    A major shitstorm broke loose when I directed some very high level managmentorial ire to the micromanaging low level managers that held the meeting.

  • (cs) in reply to faoileag
    faoileag:
    tl;dr What is the wtf supposed to be?

    That Burt blocked the DBAs from making a 5 minute fix by locking them in a conference room to "make a plan of action" for half a day. The end result was a preventable company wide shutdown fueled by a desire to hold meetings.

    I really hope Burt's next meeting was with upper to discus all the meetings he was having.

  • faoileag (unregistered) in reply to Kabi
    Kabi:
    Help, I don't know how to attend or start to meetings. Could someone plan a meeting to teach us how to attend meetings?
    A meeting has already been scheduled; in that meeting you will be told ho to do all these things, and also where meetings are held in this company.
  • Ziplodocus (unregistered) in reply to Maj najm
    Maj najm:
    Ziplodocus:
    ANON:
    faoileag:
    tl;dr What is the wtf supposed to be?

    I'm also not sure. Maybe we should have a meeting to discuss it.

    Lets arrange a meeting to discuss the best time to arrange a meeting.

    I've actually been dragged into a meeting where the sole point on the agenda was to decide when a meeting could be held. At the time I was working on a top priority issue that was causing revenue loss in the millions per hour. the meeting planned was to agree that everyone was working on what they said they were working on, pretty much. And everyone that was to be called to the meeting being planned was on the ad hoc meeting for planning the meeting. The meeting planning meeting lasted an hour.

    A major shitstorm broke loose when I directed some very high level managmentorial ire to the micromanaging low level managers that held the meeting.

    You weren't working for a company that rhymes whith 'Crap-it-ah' were you?

    Have similar experiences, during a takeover, of the uber slick corporate machine (or the bloated overstuffed management layers of megacorp).

  • dpm (unregistered) in reply to Pseudonym
    Pseudonym:
    But will we know when to attend this meeting? Should we discuss it in a meeting?
    http://search.dilbert.com/comic/You%20Think%20You%27re%20Funny%20But%20You%27re%20Not
  • Kabi (unregistered) in reply to faoileag
    faoileag:
    Kabi:
    Help, I don't know how to attend or start to meetings. Could someone plan a meeting to teach us how to attend meetings?
    A meeting has already been scheduled; in that meeting you will be told ho to do all these things, and also where meetings are held in this company.
    You forgot to mention that this meeting that shows us where meetings are held is mandatory. Not attending it is a reason to be laid off.
  • faoileag (unregistered) in reply to Kabi
    Kabi:
    faoileag:
    Kabi:
    Help, I don't know how to attend or start to meetings. Could someone plan a meeting to teach us how to attend meetings?
    A meeting has already been scheduled; in that meeting you will be told ho to do all these things, and also where meetings are held in this company.
    You forgot to mention that this meeting that shows us where meetings are held is mandatory. Not attending it is a reason to be laid off.
    Oh. You found out?
  • Pock Suppet (unregistered) in reply to someone
    someone:
    just press the "accept" button in outlook. I believe that's how it works.

    though sometimes that results in managers shouting about why you werent there

    Hey, if it was important, they would have remembered to put a reminder on the appointment. Of course, you're required to immediately click Dismiss on all appointment popups.

    Seriously...is it bad that I see my employer in about every third Dilbert and every fourth or fifth TDWTF? :(

  • faoileag (unregistered) in reply to Pock Suppet
    Pock Suppet:
    is it bad that I see my employer in about every third Dilbert and every fourth or fifth TDWTF? :(
    Not if you manage to give us some sort of warning, should any one of us ever accidentally apply at your company.
  • PNellesen (unregistered) in reply to Pock Suppet
    Pock Suppet:
    Seriously...is it bad that I see my employer in about every third Dilbert and every fourth or fifth TDWTF? :(

    No, it's not "bad", it's "normal".

  • Smug Unix User (unregistered)

    Varchar(max) saves everyone time.

  • Anonymous Paranoiac (unregistered)

    Yes, we often have meeting-planning meetings, which often enough have their own pre-meetings.

    Additionally, I think "full transaction log" may be one of the world's longest and wordiest four letter words...seriously, they have caused much havoc where I work.

  • MrBester (unregistered) in reply to Kabi
    Kabi:
    faoileag:
    Kabi:
    Help, I don't know how to attend or start to meetings. Could someone plan a meeting to teach us how to attend meetings?
    A meeting has already been scheduled; in that meeting you will be told ho to do all these things, and also where meetings are held in this company.
    You forgot to mention that this meeting that shows us where meetings are held is mandatory. Not attending it is a reason to be laid off.
    You forgot to mention that this meeting happened last week. There's been a subsequent meeting to arrange a meeting about how to best lay off those who didn't turn up. Unfortunately, one of the non-attendees was the meeting organiser.

    captcha: laoreet. Laoreet on thick with a trowel

  • Anonymous Paranoiac (unregistered) in reply to Pock Suppet
    Pock Suppet:
    Seriously...is it bad that I see my employer in about every third Dilbert and every fourth or fifth TDWTF? :(

    Is it worse that I envy Dilbert more often than I'd care to admit?

    I guess I should be happy that while I've oft empathized with TDWTF victims, I've never envied them, I don't think.

  • (cs) in reply to faoileag
    faoileag:
    tl;dr What is the wtf supposed to be?

    That log rotation was missing in the first place?

    That Burt called an emergency meeting of the DBAs in a conference room?

    The fact that even when everyone is on the hunt for a [s]wumpus[/s]DBA, they don't find him?

    I think it was Burt. Clueless managers are SOP.

    Burt is the WTF. This is something the DBAs could have fixed in seconds, yet they were stuck in a pointless meeting.

  • Bananas (unregistered) in reply to ANON
    ANON:
    faoileag:
    tl;dr What is the wtf supposed to be?

    I'm also not sure. Maybe we should have a meeting to discuss it.

    And NOBODY is leaving until we ALL reach an agreement.

  • RFox (unregistered)

    From the source:

    <!-- Easy Reader Version: I'm sorry, I can't add an easy reader version until we get buy in from all of the stakeholders. I'm going to set up a recurring meeting for every Friday at 4:30PM. How does that work for you all? Good. -->

  • C (unregistered) in reply to eViLegion
    eViLegion:
    Obviously it's the fact that when the DB went wrong, the guy in charge took all of his techs away from the problem and locked them out from solving it (until they had a plan to solve it), without anyone being allowed to triage the issue.

    It's like getting to Accident & Emergency, only to find the staff won't see you until they're 100% sure what's wrong.

    No, it's like getting to Accident & Emergency, only to find the staff won't see you until they're 100% sure they have a plan for each of the possible scenarios about what could be wrong.

  • Snowman25 (unregistered) in reply to Forumtroll
    Forumtroll:
    Ziplodocus:
    Lets arrange a meeting to discuss the best time to arrange a meeting.

    HOLD IT RIGHT THERE, MISTER!

    There is no way you are allowed to perform such a monumentally idiotic waste of time.

    You have to clear this with the dean first.

    Seriously, why is this what to expect from academically distinguished people?

    When can I get a meeting with the dean? Do I have to attend a meeting for it?

    CAPTCHA: tristique ~ latin for sad / sorrowful / gloomy Burt must be a very tristique person if he thinks that trapping al DBAs for a few hours in an emergency is his course of action.

  • golddog (unregistered) in reply to Kabi
    Kabi:
    faoileag:
    Kabi:
    Help, I don't know how to attend or start to meetings. Could someone plan a meeting to teach us how to attend meetings?
    A meeting has already been scheduled; in that meeting you will be told ho to do all these things, and also where meetings are held in this company.
    You forgot to mention that this meeting that shows us where meetings are held is mandatory. Not attending it is a reason to be laid off.

    You say that as if being laid off from such a company could, in any way, be a bad thing.

  • Regex (unregistered)

    What happened to the 50 characters?

  • amigo (unregistered)

    Obligatory Dilbert reference: http://dilbert.com/fast/1996-07-05/

  • eman_ruoy (unregistered)

    Hey, hey, hey... if we're having a meeting. Make sure to include me. You'll have to clear it with my secretary to ensure I have the time and my manager to ensure I am required.

    Secondly, is there a room for this meeting? Are we online, on phone? What?

    Ah! we need a meeting to discuss all of this. Thanks

  • OldCoder (unregistered) in reply to Regex
    Regex:
    What happened to the 50 characters?
    They're having a meeting, of course.
  • Burt (unregistered)

    Dear Leigh,

    In case you can’t tell, this is a grown-up place. The fact that you insist on complaining about planning meetings clearly shows that you’re too young and too stupid to work here.

    Go away and grow up.

    Sincerely, Burt Gladstrom

  • Your prose is WAY to fucking purple. (unregistered) in reply to C
    C:
    No, it's like getting to Accident & Emergency, only to find the staff won't see you until they're 100% sure they have a plan for each of the possible scenarios about what could be wrong.

    Yes. When will people learn that the solution to almost every tech problem is to gently poke it with a stick for a bit until it works properly!

  • ¯\(°_o)/¯ I DUNNO LOL (unregistered) in reply to Regex
    Regex:
    What happened to the 50 characters?
    They got their own spin-off TV series.

    TRWTF is that we weren't told how long Burt was given to GTFO of there. I guess they haven't had the meeting to decide that yet.

  • Burner (unregistered)

    1st rule of engineering troubleshooting: If you wait long enough, problems fix themselves. 2nd rule of engineering troubleshooting: If Rule #1 doesn't work, wait a little longer until someone else gets tired of waiting and fixes it themselves. 3rd rule of engineering troubleshooting: Either way, you take credit for the fix tomorrow morning.

  • C-Derb (unregistered)

    Biggest problem we have at my company is finding a conference room that is available on the scheduling calendar.

    Oh sure, there's plenty of empty ones that don't appear to be in use, but they are all booked thanks to the magic of recurring meetings that are optional from day to day or week to week.

    Pro Tip: If you are planning to cancel your weekly meeting, don't wait until 5 minutes after the start time to cancel it.

  • webdev (unregistered) in reply to ANON

    no joke,

    I recently logged time for a meeting about logging the time it takes to log time as "logged time" in our time logging application.

  • sulis (unregistered) in reply to webdev
    webdev:
    no joke,

    I recently logged time for a meeting about logging the time it takes to log time as "logged time" in our time logging application.

    I heard you like logging time.

  • feugiat (unregistered) in reply to ANON

    If you don't get the wtf, you are doing it wrong. Keeping on scrollin' until you find it.

  • Does That Work? (unregistered) in reply to Bananas
    Bananas:
    ANON:
    faoileag:
    tl;dr What is the wtf supposed to be?

    I'm also not sure. Maybe we should have a meeting to discuss it.

    And NOBODY is leaving until we ALL reach an agreement.
    We have agreement and meeting over.

    Arrive at workspace, check for the email stating the agreed approach isn't viable, and next meeting is scheduled to reach an agreement.

  • Steve (unregistered)

    Meetings are the practical alternative to doing work.

  • (cs)

    An appropriate plan of action would be to remove the biggest obstacle to solving the problem: Burt.

  • JTM (unregistered)

    Perhaps TRWTF was hiring Burt in the first place after...well...this: http://thedailywtf.com/Articles/Meet-Burt.aspx :-)

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