• A dude (unregistered)

    thats classic

  • Colin (unregistered)

    I would be happy to attend the spectacle so long as I get a piece of cake.  Cuz last year I didn't receive one.

  • pinguis (cs) in reply to A dude

    A Classic:

    Flogging will continue until moral improves.

  • John S (unregistered)

    "The beatings will continue until morale improves"

  • dpm (cs)
    Alex Papadimoulis:

    the email didn't help improve employee moral.



    I can't see how you could possibly improve the moral of the story.  "GET THE HELL OUT" is pretty succint.
  • Someone Passing Through (unregistered)

    I can't wait to see the e-mail that goes out when he eventually finds his e-mail posted on the web....

  • John S (unregistered) in reply to John S

    oops, sorry to be redundant.

  • pinguis (cs) in reply to pinguis

    fsck the forum software...

    Substitute moral by morale

  • not me (unregistered)

    Madly googling "Jim +CEO" +Corp

  • mastmaker (unregistered)

    I wouldn't be surprised if TEN of Jim's best people up and quit spontaneously.

    I would - if I were working there in the first place!

  • mastmaker (unregistered) in reply to not me

    @'not me'

    Don't bother. Jim is a pseudonym for Alexander Alexandrovitch Simynov (or was it Petrov?)

  • Dave (unregistered) in reply to Colin

    From: Jim M----- [jim.m-----@----corp.com]
    Sent: Friday, May 05, 2006 1:09 PM
    To: All Employees
    Subject: Not Again!

    I can't believe some employee has stabbed us in the back again. My previous email was posted on a lame site called The Daily WTF, as if it were some sort of joke. Well I can tell you that I was certainly not joking then, and I am not joking now when I say that I will find the malcontent that leaked the email and send him packing.

    Has everyone forgotten how I fired that bastard Rick in a spectacular fashion, just as I promised, when I found out he talked to our interviewee in the elevator? His underwear is still hanging from the tree outside. Hey Mister Email Leaker, if you thought Rick got rough treatment, wait until I find your sorry ass.

    Let me make it clear, I expect nothing less than blind obedience from every employee of this company. If you have complaints, put them in an email to me. That way I can put them in your personnel file for later reference in your dismissal letter.

    Jim M-----
    CEO
    ---- Corporation

  • jtwine (cs)

    > I'd suggest your displeasure is endemic of your personality and most likely
    > you have never been happy at any job you have ever had. So do us all a
    > favor and leave. [...] If you don't like this company -then GET THE HELL
    > OUT.

    Yep -- nothing like a caring management staff with excellent lead-by-example-style leadership.  To say nothing of the fact that if one person is unhappy, chances are others are as well.

    How about trying to find out what the underlying problems are, and trying to take positive steps to resolve them?  You know, what an actual leader would do?  Some people need to be reminded that their employees are their company.

    Just a thought...

  • jtwine (cs) in reply to Dave
    Anonymous:

    From: Jim M----- [jim.m-----@----corp.com]
    Sent: Friday, May 05, 2006 1:09 PM
    To: All Employees
    Subject: Not Again!

    I can't believe some employee has stabbed us in the back again. My previous email was posted on a lame site called The Daily WTF, as if it were some sort of joke. Well I can tell you that I was certainly not joking then, and I am not joking now when I say that I will find the malcontent that leaked the email and send him packing.

    Has everyone forgotten how I fired that bastard Rick in a spectacular fashion, just as I promised, when I found out he talked to our interviewee in the elevator? His underwear is still hanging from the tree outside. Hey Mister Email Leaker, if you thought Rick got rough treatment, wait until I find your sorry ass.

    Let me make it clear, I expect nothing less than blind obedience from every employee of this company. If you have complaints, put them in an email to me. That way I can put them in your personnel file for later reference in your dismissal letter.

    Jim M-----
    CEO
    ---- Corporation

    Joke!  ... Right? :)

  • mooney (cs)

    To be fair, the CEO has a point.  If the person dislikes the company that much, they should follow their own advice, quit and move on, rather than shit-talking the company to job candidates.

    Sure, the CEO seems a little uptight, but the employee here is a cowardly tool.  If he had self-respect, he would have quit long before this stage.

  • MikeMontana (cs)

    Hey I would prefer to work for a manager like that who had the nerve to be direct! I would much rather deal with this guy than the usual ball-less weasels who frame every statement in a near apology. Where do I send my resume?

  • eddieboston (cs)

    I don't understand why it is so difficult for management types to understand that employees that are not happy are usually that way for a reason.  Laying people off never, ever results in a better company.  If you want people to be happy to give you 5/7ths of their lives, you have to give them a reason.

    pi
    au

  • awfeawefwafefewa (unregistered) in reply to eddieboston

    This is not a WTF.  All CEOs are self-righteous, lunatic bastards that would sell their first-born for more money.

  • awfeawefwafefewa (unregistered) in reply to eddieboston
    eddieboston:
    I don't understand why it is so difficult for management types to understand that employees that are not happy are usually that way for a reason.  Laying people off never, ever results in a better company.  If you want people to be happy to give you 5/7ths of their lives, you have to give them a reason.

    pi
    au

    Not true.  One company I worked at had a round of "layoffs" so that they could get rid of dead weight.  Morale improved immensely afterwards.
  • Nomen Nescio (unregistered) in reply to Dave

    I'm not going to defend the unprofessional behavior of the disgruntled employee in the elevator. BUT.. Saying 'so just leave' isn't always reasonable. Sometimes there are large carrots hanging from sticks just a week or a month away: a bonus, vacation time, vesting, etc. Employee retention devices sometimes retain the wrong people. Meanwhile, they may not be good enough to keep the people you want to stay. I remember one CEO saying that what was wrong with the company was 'the negative people in it'. Actually, those were the people who were correct, as time proved..

  • Michael (unregistered) in reply to eddieboston
    eddieboston:
    If you want people to be happy to give you 5/7ths of their lives, you have to give them a reason.

    pi
    au

    They do; every week. It's signed too.

  • Mike (unregistered)

    My favorite story of a CEO WTF from a place I used to work:

    He had called an all hands meeting to discuss the upcoming layoffs.  He gave the typical "tightening our belts" speech then called for questions.

    PEON: So, will we still have bagels on Mondays?
    CEO: I've been paying for those bagels out of my own pocket and not ONCE have any of you motherf**ers ever said thanks.

    The upshot was we lost our bagels, and by a strange coincidence PEON was the first person let go. 

    It was the first time a CEO had ever called me a motherf
    **er to my face.

  • jeremyp (unregistered) in reply to mooney

    This reminds me of somebody I know. Let's call him "Peremy J". He spends all day riding the elevators to his competitors' offices and when he sees an obvious interview candidate (looks allergic to the new business suit he is wearing) he tells him how the company sucks to work for.

  • BiggBru (cs)
    Alex Papadimoulis:

    Once this person is identified they will be fired immediately and in quite a spectacular fashion.

    <FONT face=Georgia>And how do you fire someone in "spectacular fashion"? Is he going to have an orchestra playing on the background, circus acrobats twirling behind them, possibly even a sports announcer and play-by-play commentator giving everyone the breakdown?</FONT>

    <FONT face=Georgia>I definitely wouldn't work for the company, but I would attend one of their firings.</FONT>

  • Nomen Nescio (unregistered) in reply to Nomen Nescio

    How about trying to find out what the underlying problems are

    Yes! A competent CEO would say, OK, I'm setting up an anonymous complaint box outside my office. or a round table, or something. No sarcasm, that might actually accomplish something if it was done seriously. But that's an attitude and not a process issue. (A side problem is that deadlines/customer requirements never hold their breath for such things. I remember when the CEO once said, 'Hey everyone, take the afternoon off!', and the CEO went home. Guess what I did? I couldn't go home, I had a hard deadline.. And, people who were supposed to deliver to me, slipped on their side because of the 'half day off'. )

  • OneMHz (cs) in reply to Nomen Nescio

    I recently changed jobs. I can say the CEO had a lot to do with it because of the same kind of leadership-deathgrip. Productivity is down, but rather than realize that his people were overworked, he simply became our personal warden to make sure we spent every minute of the day staring at code. Promising to fire people for the slightest infraction of internet use (contrary to the employee manual I signed) and committing general douchebaggery.

    So I found another job, and recruited as many other unhappy people as I could. Until I had an offer letter and completed my 2-weeks, I had no problem telling people what problems I had with the company. If there is something seriously wrong with the way they treat people, why should I pretend it's all okay until I'm gone?

  • Dazir (unregistered)

    Hmm, maybe Jim M is George W

  • CAPTCHA:Salad (unregistered) in reply to Someone Passing Through

    Anonymous:
    I can't wait to see the e-mail that goes out when he eventually finds his e-mail posted on the web....

     

    LMAO

  • Matt (unregistered) in reply to Dazir
    Anonymous:
    Hmm, maybe Jim M is George W


    That wasnt even a little bit funny
  • codeman (cs) in reply to Michael

    Michael:
    eddieboston:
    If you want people to be happy to give you 5/7ths of their lives, you have to give them a reason.
    They do; every week. It's signed too.

    Bad-mouthing the company, even a crappy one, especially while still on the payroll, is just wrong.

    That said, the paycheck is not necssarily a reason to be happy; lots of folks put up with a sucky job because they have mouths to feed at home.

    Work is not necssarily play.

    If you enjoy it, that's a bonus for you, and the company might even get a better day of work out of you. If you don't enjoy it, you do it anyway to pay the bills, usually while you are looking elsewhere. At what point you choose to look to leave is usually determined by the level of suckiness in the workplace crossing some threshhold of pain that each individual defines in their own way.

     

     

  • ptomblin (cs)

    This forum software really needs a "post anonymously" option like Slashdot has.  Otherwise I'd tell the story of the boss who was so useless at motivating that he fired the only guy who had the guts to gripe out loud because he thought that would improve morale, not realizing that the rest of us just griped behind his back.

  • Jeff S (cs) in reply to BiggBru
    BiggBru:
    Alex Papadimoulis:

    Once this person is identified they will be fired immediately and in quite a spectacular fashion.

    <font face="Georgia">And how do you fire someone in "spectacular fashion"? Is he going to have an orchestra playing on the background, circus acrobats twirling behind them, possibly even a sports announcer and play-by-play commentator giving everyone the breakdown?</font>

    <font face="Georgia">I definitely wouldn't work for the company, but I would attend one of their firings.</font>


    I'm not sure of the specific details, but I am guessing it would involve a wild monkey, angry bees, glue, 2 pounds of olive oil, hand-cuffs,6 dozen fire crackers, an agitated mountain goat, 20 feet of twine, and a dirty toothbrush.


  • Jeff S (cs) in reply to ptomblin
    ptomblin:
    This forum software really needs a "post anonymously" option like Slashdot has.  Otherwise I'd tell the story of the boss who was so useless at motivating that he fired the only guy who had the guts to gripe out loud because he thought that would improve morale, not realizing that the rest of us just griped behind his back.


    You can always log out and then post.  It's not too hard.  Get motivated and do it or you're fired!
  • codeman (cs) in reply to Jeff S
    Jeff S:
    BiggBru:
    Alex Papadimoulis:

    Once this person is identified they will be fired immediately and in quite a spectacular fashion.

    <FONT face=Georgia>And how do you fire someone in "spectacular fashion"? Is he going to have an orchestra playing on the background, circus acrobats twirling behind them, possibly even a sports announcer and play-by-play commentator giving everyone the breakdown?</FONT>

    <FONT face=Georgia>I definitely wouldn't work for the company, but I would attend one of their firings.</FONT>


    I'm not sure of the specific details, but I am guessing it would involve a wild monkey, angry bees, glue, 2 pounds of olive oil, hand-cuffs,6 dozen fire crackers, an agitated mountain goat, 20 feet of twine, and a dirty toothbrush.


     

    Oh. My. God. LMAO - *thank you*

     

  • sammybaby (cs)

    Reminds me of the story about David Stanley (aka Michael Fenne), the erstwhile preacher, sometime head of Pixelon, and con artist.

    [The head of Pixelon's investment bank] and his two lieutenants left for Orange County for an emergency board meeting... the first thing [they] heard was the sound of Fenne's voice over the Pixelon public address system. "This is the master speaking," at least a half dozen people present remember Fenne barking. "George better respond to me immediately, and if he doesn't have all the answers I might have to take him out behind the barn for a whooping!" Then, another message rang out,"Frank, report to the woodshed, your uncle is going to give you a whooping." The repeated messages, which appeared to be randomly directed at various employees, might have been funny were it not for the air of fear they created.

    Whole thing at The Standard.

  • Kinkyboots (unregistered) in reply to Jeff S
    Jeff S:
    BiggBru:
    Alex Papadimoulis:

    Once this person is identified they will be fired immediately and in quite a spectacular fashion.

    <font face="Georgia">And how do you fire someone in "spectacular fashion"? Is he going to have an orchestra playing on the background, circus acrobats twirling behind them, possibly even a sports announcer and play-by-play commentator giving everyone the breakdown?</font>

    <font face="Georgia">I definitely wouldn't work for the company, but I would attend one of their firings.</font>


    I'm not sure of the specific details, but I am guessing it would involve a wild monkey, angry bees, glue, 2 pounds of olive oil, hand-cuffs,6 dozen fire crackers, an agitated mountain goat, 20 feet of twine, and a dirty toothbrush.




    So that was you wearing the mask the other night....
  • beefcake (unregistered) in reply to Matt

    Yes it was.  I can picture Scott McClellan andTony Snow in the elevator right now...

  • beefcake (unregistered) in reply to Matt
    Anonymous:
    Anonymous:
    Hmm, maybe Jim M is George W


    That wasnt even a little bit funny



    Yes it was.  I can picture Scott McClellan andTony Snow in the elevator right now...



  • Jojosh_the_Pi (cs) in reply to Jeff S
    Jeff S:
    BiggBru:
    Alex Papadimoulis:

    Once this person is identified they will be fired immediately and in quite a spectacular fashion.

    <font face="Georgia">And how do you fire someone in "spectacular fashion"? Is he going to have an orchestra playing on the background, circus acrobats twirling behind them, possibly even a sports announcer and play-by-play commentator giving everyone the breakdown?</font>

    <font face="Georgia">I definitely wouldn't work for the company, but I would attend one of their firings.</font>


    I'm not sure of the specific details, but I am guessing it would involve a wild monkey, angry bees, glue, 2 pounds of olive oil, hand-cuffs,6 dozen fire crackers, an agitated mountain goat, 20 feet of twine, and a dirty toothbrush.




    No way; there's not enough in the budget for the dirty toothbrush.
  • bullseye (cs) in reply to beefcake

    The original submitter should save that email, so that when his company ends up here, they'll have a little bit of history to explain the downfall.

  • Matt B (cs)

    (Let's ignore how stupid the elevator guy was for a moment)

    What kind of a narc of a candidate would go back and tell the HR recruiter about the elevator incident?

    What was that guy possibly hoping would come out of that? That HR would refute the elevator guy's claims? That maybe they'd offer him more money to work at such an obviously crummy company?

    Or was he just clueless and randomly mentioned it thinking someone would find it funny?

    Wouldn't make me too confident of the decision-making ability of the candidate...

  • Stu (unregistered)

    I once recommended someone not to take a job at my company (a previous employer, fortunately).

    He ignored my advice and took the job.

    About two  weeks after starting, he walked out of the building mid-afternoon and didn't come back.

  • An anonymous bitcher (unregistered)

    The company had to cut pay and slash benefits, but they had the money to pay a recruiter to hire a candidate.  There's a WTF!

    The beatings will continue until moral improves.  Now quit your bitching. 

  • PinkFloyd (unregistered)

    Remember the movie with Kevin Costner where they closed down the Pentagon looking for a Russian Spy named "Uri", which was Kevin Costner, who was also associated with the search.

    Now what if Jim the CEO was actually the one the guy saw in the elevator. Someone will have to let us know if the CEO actually is around during the cube -> cube search

     

  • lrb (cs) in reply to Stu

    Unfortunately I've had the experience working at a company very similar to the one described.  The President of the company was constantly sending out emails while not quite as bad as the original post, were far to close for my comfort. 

    What is most interesting is that the CEO assumes the worst off of partial and incomplete 3rd hand information reported most likely out of context without even bothering to determine exactly what was said and within what context.  It could been as innocent as saying that the position required a good bit of overtime.  We don't know,  and apparently the CEO doesn't care. 

     

  • TomCo (cs)
    Alex Papadimoulis:

    The candidate then told the recruiter, who then told us. The recruiter is getting a description of the person who told the candidate this. If necessary I will pay the candidate to come and identify who they talked to.

    OMG!

    CEO's problem can be solved!

    1) Just ask for everyone's status reports and look for that 10-minute gap in time that the employee cannot properly document.

    2) Or check the security cameras for people who dare use the fun-filled elevator during work hours (up-down, up-down, weeeeee!). 

    3) Or check to see if anyone has used their work PC to surf 66.232.98.150. [8-)]

  • Cooper (cs) in reply to Matt B
    Matt B:
    (Let's ignore how stupid the elevator guy was for a moment)

    What kind of a narc of a candidate would go back and tell the HR recruiter about the elevator incident?

    What was that guy possibly hoping would come out of that? That HR would refute the elevator guy's claims? That maybe they'd offer him more money to work at such an obviously crummy company?



    Where in the original post do the letters HR appear? - I am having problems finding them, even using the combined power of grep, Firefox search and my eyeballs.

    I would certainly tell a recruiter that sent me on this interview about such an incident.  If you'd like me to start listing the reasons, let me know - do you want them in alpha or importance order?
  • Mr Beeper (cs)

    "Work harder for longer hours and less pay or you're fired"

    paraphrase of motivational speaker's speech in Dilbert

  • TomCo (cs) in reply to awfeawefwafefewa

    Anonymous:
    eddieboston:
    I don't understand why it is so difficult for management types to understand that employees that are not happy are usually that way for a reason.  Laying people off never, ever results in a better company.  If you want people to be happy to give you 5/7ths of their lives, you have to give them a reason.

    pi
    au

    Not true.  One company I worked at had a round of "layoffs" so that they could get rid of dead weight.  Morale improved immensely afterwards.

    Problem being how is "dead weight" measured.  I think very subjectively! [:^)]

  • Sean (cs)

    This is a case of an employee who's not 100% in.  The CEO has to get his bonus money somewhere.  What, is it his job to boost morale and productivity?

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