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HR may have been unwilling to discipline an employee for whatever it was that prompted Greg to quit, but I wouldn't bet on them being unwilling to discipline Jim for unauthorized use of Greg's account and tampering with another department's web page, no matter the beneficence of the purpose and effect of the unauthorized access.
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I thought for sure the problem was going to be that the taking pixel was coming from a web server from Marketing's network which is not visible from outside. So it would always work for them but not for most other people.
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Lovely. I wish I worked in a place like this. It should make everything so easy and organized and political correct.
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I have been to may different companies the last 30 years. Even defense, banking, insurance, health care. you name. Never been to a place where the willingness to solve something had been on such low level. Not even by in-house stubborn developers mostly saying "works for me". I cannot imagine an Initec working like this.
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In order to figure that out, people from other departments would have to talk to each other. Sounds like Jim is pretty safe.
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Sounds like a company with very Christian work ethics:
"do not let your left hand know what your right hand is doing" Matthew 6:3
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I'm pretty sure that this is my submission, spruced up, and I'm Jim :smile:
I genuinely had a brief conversation with someone in marketing in the kitchen an hour ago, at which the primary topic was not being allowed to talk to them.
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Is that the bit in the Bible about onanism?
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Very fitting to the charitable atmosphere there.
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You're overthinking my question....
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Does anyone else cringe at the tracking pixel being pushed off screen?
Surely dimensions of 0x0 should be sufficient.
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Some browsers used to ignore the dimensions set in the tag/CSS if it was broken.
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Well, only if Internet access isn't censored and you can search for the attributes of the img-tag.
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Makes totally sense. And explains why not all people could reproduce it.Admin
I'm still waiting for the part where someone writes an anonymous function that references local variables.
The image was a nice touch.
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IMO, TRWTF is that the dev assigned to fix the problem could not talk or coordinate with both the user reporting the issue and the group/team that was the source of the problem. Getting the marketing techie and the reporting user in the same room would have resolved this issue in 2 minutes, not the multiple years that it took for someone to break the AUP and change the marketing team's page.
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I'd bet that the employee that HR refused to discipline on behalf of Greg was Jim. It sounds like Greg probably considered Jim insubordinate because he failed to follow his stupid decision and instead, you know, tried to fix the problem.
At which point, HR and Greg found themselves in Greg's boss's office, explaining their sides, and the HR rep said something along the lines of "Sir, Greg wanted his employee disciplined for attempting to do his job to the best of his ability. We're confused as to why this request came in, to say the least." And the big boss had a bit more sense than Greg, and made what was plainly the right decision.
As in, Jim probably owes somebody in HR lunch.
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Wouldn't it be easier if Our Beloved Leader / Big Brother / Democratically People-Elected President /State Council Chairman would declare that there is no bug and that 2+2==5?
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Or the opposite is true: someone in Marketing noticed the original comments left by Jim (any decent version/issue tracker refuses to write history of tickets) and complained to HR. HR then ordered Greg to give Jim a reprimande, which Greg refused. So Greg was sacked instead.
That aside, it sounds like an absolutely horrible place to work.
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Jim, if Marketing has a test server and source control, your "fix" is merely temporary.
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That's not what the article says:
Greg wanted the employee, whomever it was, disciplined, but HR refused. Greg wasn't sacked; he quit.
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Yes, the dreaded Lawful Stupid alignment.
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Oh, whoops, I missed that bit. I got thrown off by Greg's earlier statement about 'not wanting HR to...'
Good riddance, a lead like that is pretty shitty.
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True, although we don't know whether that part of the story actually happened, or it's part of the embellishment.
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I would not be surprised if it actually happened. I have experienced people like that in my career.
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Nor would I. Fortunately, I have no personal experience with such people, at least not anywhere near that extreme.
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I've not experienced such people directly, but they most certainly exist. I suspect that some of my current problems at work are caused by one such…
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That sounds unlike any HR department at any company I've ever worked for. HR is not there for the benefit of the employees. Much the opposite.
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If they've got a chance to crap on exactly one of two employees, it's pretty random what actually happens. But some mid-level manager is no more insulated from the ravages of HR than any other employee: they're focused on covering the corporate ass when it comes to employment law, not on making managers invulnerable.
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If your company has a good excuse for getting rid of one of the following two employees, which one would you pick:
It's an easy choice for HR, solely because of the numbers at the end of the descriptions above.
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TRWTF is Jim thinking that a fix on the production server will solve the problem, when really it will regress when the new release is pushed.
Because they are using source control, right?
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I'm just trying to imagine a marketing department that understands the concept of working with anything other than the live site…
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You're so sharp I just cut myself on you!
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I sense some confusion so I thought why not give closure in a language best equipped for it?
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This superior effort deserves some reward, but all I have is a like button...
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10,000 pixels off the screen, huh? Now that's really throwing the problem into someone else's ballpark.
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What's wrong with
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Lots and lots of applause!
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This shows how one can support almost anything with a (out-of-context) quote from the Bible.
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Am I the only one thinking that Greg was responsible for that bug in the first place? And that policy as well - this way they'd be reliant on him alone to fix anything at all.