• (nodebb)

    It's so tempting to use a good programming language very poorly in order to create a very bad programming language. I mean, why bother using the good language directly? And don't even get me started on the "users will be able to do it themselves" fallacy.

  • Bob (unregistered) in reply to Mr. TA

    Are but you're forgetting that we now have ML which I'm sure together with AI will allow computers to guess at what their users are really asking them to do, who will need programmers then?!

  • Geoff (unregistered)

    TL:DR Inner platform effect.

  • my name is missing (unregistered)

    I once worked at a Financial company whose bank used a third party banking product written in some bizarro language that party had invented themselves. Apparently you could customize the software in the same language, but instead of compiling you sent it back to the third party to compile and integrate into the one app they sent out to everyone. So every banking customer had all the code from all the other customers. Needless to say I banked elsewhere at a company that probably uses a 50 year old COBOL program.

  • bvs23bkv33 (unregistered)

    empty string represents false? let's validate it as bool. aww...

  • (nodebb) in reply to Mr. TA

    Isn't that just describing ShitPoint...err...I mean SharePoint? A hyper-restrictive platform for non-technical people to "program" a website that locks out 90% of what you could do with Notepad, IIS, and ASP/PHP?

  • (nodebb)

    “If builders built houses the way programmers build programs, the first woodpecker to come along would destroy civilization.”

  • (nodebb) in reply to Zenith

    Yeah the sad part is it didn't have to be so slow and limited. I feel like Microsoft put their best engineers on programming tools like Visual Studio and Office, and the mediocre rest on everything else, including Windows. The worst are working on SharePoint.

  • medievalist (unregistered) in reply to Zenith

    Businesses rarely choose products like that based on expert evaluation of utility or risk.

    The people pushing for Sharepoint at my workplace are 100% motivated by the feeling of trust and love they have for Microsoft Inc. and the people fighting against it are 100% motivated by fear and loathing of the same company. None of them have done any analysis or research.

  • radarbob (unregistered) in reply to bvs23bkv33

    Javascript, anyone?

  • jay (unregistered)

    "None of them have done any analysis or research." Speculating wildly and making stuff up is so much easier than doing research.

  • jay (unregistered)

    "And don't even get me started on the "users will be able to do it themselves" fallacy."

    I've seen so many products advertised as, "you don't need to know how to program!" Which almost always turns out to mean, "Instead of having to write complex Java or C# code, you can just use our simple user-friendly not-a-computer-language. Like if you want to have an IF condition, instead of having to write some complex computer code like "if (x==y) then z=1", you can just write "<if> $x==$y <then> $z=(1)". See how much simpler!! No programming at all!"

  • RLB (unregistered) in reply to CoyneTheDup

    If customers expected the same things from architects that they do from programmers, they'd be angry that opening the front door didn't cook you dinner. No, another dinner. I ordered that dinner this morning, but now I want another one and you should've built the house to read my mind.

  • Emma Spark (google)

    Where's the research?

  • Josef Hahn (unregistered)

    Why do you explicitly mention "so he messaged Tyree on Slack", while you don't explicitly mention brands of cars, coffee, whatever?

  • Kudzu_Kid (unregistered) in reply to Mr. TA

    And I thought the worst were working on Team or Office 129 or something. Thanks for the clarification (no, I can't dispute what you said... SharePoint sucks hard!)

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