• doubtingposter (unregistered)

    Yeughh, that last one gets me.

    I also use a 3rd party cookie blocker, because I don't agree with the tracking policies of big companies. But the amount of websites that give popups saying 'We see you are using an adblocker, please stop using an adblocker to help us!' annoys the crap out of me. You can display all the ads you want! Just not personalised ones.

  • Quirkafleeg (unregistered)

    I only see 2 ingredients to give to your dog...

  • Robert Morson (google)

    If a site makes it really, really, really easy to steal from them, is it still stealing?

  • (nodebb) in reply to Robert Morson

    If a site makes it really, really, really easy to steal from them, is it still stealing?

    The law would say that it is. Someone said once, "A thief with a key is still a thief." The stolen-from person/company's insurance might not cover it, because of negligence and all, but it's still stealing.

  • WTFGuy (unregistered)

    But the act of the websites stealing & reselling knowledge of my habits without my awareness or specific informed consent is legal how?

  • (nodebb)

    I never knew that our previous monarch was French.

  • Foo AKA Fooo (unregistered)

    1. It's boring to have everything in the same language. Google wants to train your bilinguality.

    2. As usual, watching Fox news only gives you half the picture. Other news outlets, even their own local stations, have more detail.

    3. Leaving test more on in stupid. But explaining its details on the very same page is stupid^42. (I know, doing it elsewhere is just security-by-obscurity, but probably would've worked here.)

    4. I'm more worried about the military superboost WiFi repeaters flying off shelves worldwide.

    5. There haven't been that many "generations" between George(s) V1 and Elizabeth 11, actually.

    6. Like doubtingposter said, that annoys me the most on the web today (well, after reCAPTCHA, anyway). We need to set a cookie to remember that you don't want cookies. No, you don't -- the fact that my browser refuses your cookies is evidence enough that I don't want your f*n cookies!

  • (nodebb) in reply to Foo AKA Fooo

    Like doubtingposter said, that annoys me the most on the web today (well, after reCAPTCHA, anyway). We need to set a cookie to remember that you don't want cookies. No, you don't -- the fact that my browser refuses your cookies is evidence enough that I don't want your f*n cookies!

    Challenge: how would you remember this preference from session to session if not by a cookie? From one page to another during one visit, that can be done (include a query string on every URL with the cookie preference...), but from one session to another? (It's feasible if you bookmark the query string, but if it's a site you don't want to have on a bookmark...)

  • (nodebb) in reply to WTFGuy

    But the act of the websites stealing & reselling knowledge of my habits without my awareness or specific informed consent is legal how?

    Depends on which country you're in, I think, and the extent of the unawareness etc. and so on, as to whether it is legal.

  • (nodebb) in reply to WTFGuy

    But the act of the websites stealing & reselling knowledge of my habits without my awareness or specific informed consent is legal how?

    Depends on which country you're in, I think, and the extent of the unawareness etc. and so on, as to whether it is legal.

    Addendum 2020-08-21 09:28: Furbling nodebb. Ugh. Sorry for the double post.

  • (nodebb) in reply to Andrew Taylor

    I never knew that our previous monarch was French.

    If you go back far enough, yes, you'll find Frenchness in your previous monarchs. George VI, not so much. On the other hand, one set of my previous monarchs most definitely were French.

    Er.

    Because they were the kings of France.

  • Foo AKA Fooo (unregistered) in reply to Steve_The_Cynic

    Like I said, by the mere fact that my browser refuses your cookie. Sure, it won't work for more detailed settings -- I agree that cookies are reasonable for that. But for most web sites, I simply want to cookies, no personal information at all. You can try to set a cookie, and if my browser refuses it, you have your answer. On my next visit, same game. But the user shouldn't even notice anything of it.

  • setCookie('allow-cookies', 0) (unregistered) in reply to Steve_The_Cynic

    Challenge: how would you remember this preference from session to session if not by a cookie?

    You don't need to remember that I won't accept 3p cookies. You can just try to set them and if they don't get set then you can't track me - which is the whole point of disabling them.

  • Kleyguerth (github) in reply to Foo AKA Fooo

    Stripe test mode doesn't accept real credit cards, only the test ones, so it wouldn't have worked either way.

  • Your Mammas name (unregistered) in reply to doubtingposter

    " You can display all the ads you want! Just not personalised ones" - they started off as unpersonalised ones and people complained about seeing advertising they weren't interested in, so now it's personalised - and people still complain.

  • David Katz (google)

    I pity the fool that can't understand these headlines.

  • eric bloedow (unregistered)

    reminds me of that story where someone testing an order system sent an order to mr. test test at test street, test city, test state, and some idiot STILL missed that it was a test and tried to send an ACTUAL package to "mr. test test"!

  • (nodebb)

    People don't want personalised ads. And when they find out how the personalisation is done they want them even less.

  • Greg Sorolev (unregistered)

    Turn off JavaShit and 99% of those annoyances disappear completely.

  • Officer Johnny Holzkopf (unregistered) in reply to Greg Sorolev

    Turning off Javascript will also disable 99% of any remaining website functionality. Sometimes you'll get a static fallback page that asks you to enable Javascript (and maybe cookies), or you'll just get a blank page, no text, no images, no content - because all that already depends on Javascript...

  • (nodebb) in reply to Foo AKA Fooo

    There haven't been that many "generations" between George(s) V1 and Elizabeth 11, actually.

    The V1 was an unmanned flying bomb from World War Two, developed by the Germans. It's unlikely our king at the time had one. It's traditional with British monarchs to write the regnal number in Roman numerals, so Elizabeth 11 is more properly written as Elizabeth XI. We are only on Elizabeth II at the moment. So it is unknown how many generations there will be between the last King George before Elizabeth XI and Elizabeth XI.

  • markm (unregistered) in reply to Jeremy Pereira

    The current British monarch is Elizabeth II - that is, the Second. Her father was George VI, not V1, and certainly not V11! Whoever wrote that Getty Images caption was twice a fool: getting the Roman numeral wrong and using arabic numerals in roman numerals.

  • (nodebb) in reply to Your Mammas name

    ... they started off as unpersonalised ones and people complained about seeing advertising they weren't interested in, so now it's personalised - and people still complain.

    Because marketers heard "complained about seeing advertising they weren't interested in" and assumed the problem was "weren't interested in", rather than "seeing advertising".

    If you solve the wrong problem, you're still going to hear complaints when you're done.

  • A cunt from Scunthorpe (unregistered) in reply to Your Mammas name

    "they started off as unpersonalised ones and people complained about seeing advertising they weren't interested in, so now it's personalised - and people still complain."

    Oh, but we want personalized ads BUT WITHOUT TRACKING. As to how they can achieve this, hire a psychic. I am available and my rates start only at $300/hr.

  • Angela Anuszewski (google) in reply to Foo AKA Fooo

    Hey, Fox Baltimore gave the world Traffic Jam Jimmy wanting a fish sandwich, they are a high quality outfit.

  • .. (unregistered) in reply to A cunt from Scunthorpe

    My big issue with personalized ads is that they suck.

    Yes, Amazon, I looked at this type of product two days ago. Looked at all your offers of it. And decided all of them suck. No, I don't need ads to buy them.

    Yes, blizzard, it's cool you have WoW, I already bought it and won't buy a second copy because of an ad.

    That's a nice ad you have there, based on what you think you can conclude from what gender and age you think I am. It's wrong though.

    Heck, track me. I'd even pay to get well-done (i.e. ads that show pros and cons etc) ads that would actually be tailored to my interests instead of the lackluster attempts I've seen. I'll even provide you with extra info

  • golem (unregistered)

    To be fair, the Daily Mail is well-known for tutting at practically everything.

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