• (cs) in reply to briverymouse
    briverymouse:
    frits:
    briverymouse:
    frits:
    So if any number divided by zero is undefined, and zero divided by any number is zero, and any number divide by itself is one, what is 0/0?

    Look it up. It's indeterminate.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indeterminate_form

    I look it when you learn how to not be a dick. ...and when you learn how to make a hyperlink.

    Look it up. It's indeterminate.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indeterminate_form

    I ask for equality and you give me limits? WTF?

  • Dave-Sir (unregistered) in reply to Harry S.
    Harry S.:
    "In the end," Mark wrote, "I just ended up spelling out 'thirteen'." --- Didn't he see? Answers must be three characters long - they just wanted the leading zero. ;-)
    Soo... 015?

    Captcha: conventio. This is the conventio in C.

  • Calli Arcale (unregistered) in reply to Anon
    Anon:
    Someone:
    Alex Papa, you are a real what the fuck. I sent you something different but you wouldn't publish it, and yet you will publish similar errors over and over again.

    <waahmbulance, somebody call it>

    Here's a thought...Maybe your submission sucked and that's why it didn't get posted? Or maybe Alex gets more than one submission and it takes some time to trawl through them.

    The young padawan must learn patience, for their is much WTF in the world. Were it all combined in a single Error'd, it would collapse to a singularity and we would all be screwed.

  • Rfoxmich (unregistered) in reply to Harry S.

    Maybe then, however it would think he was 11 (Octal).

    Harry S.:
    "In the end," Mark wrote, "I just ended up spelling out 'thirteen'." --- Didn't he see? Answers must be three characters long - they just wanted the leading zero. ;-)
  • AN AWESOME CODER (unregistered) in reply to Jan
    Jan:
    Okay, now I get what YOUR problem is with the picture!

    You think it says -1999°C. But it doesn't. The device is german, in Germany we use , instead of . (and vice versa).

    So in american terms it just says -1.999°C (slightly below the freezing point of water...)

    So the real WTF is posting pictures of "wrong" stuff, although you just don't get that other countries and cultures might use other conventions.

    If there is no seperator (Neither "," nor "."), then the number is by default a whole number. So, it says -19999 throughout the universe. There is no separator in that picture.

    SO GO AWAY.

  • Anon (unregistered) in reply to Jan
    Jan:
    Okay, now I get what YOUR problem is with the picture!

    You think it says -1999°C. But it doesn't. The device is german, in Germany we use , instead of . (and vice versa).

    So in american terms it just says -1.999°C (slightly below the freezing point of water...)

    So the real WTF is posting pictures of "wrong" stuff, although you just don't get that other countries and cultures might use other conventions.

    Even if (and it's really not clear from the picture) there's a decimal separator in there, it's still a minor WTF to report the temperature to 4 decimal places.

    I mean, I know it's "Accu"weather, but I didn't know they were also so precise? Must be a German thing.

  • np (unregistered) in reply to Harry S.
    Harry S.:
    "In the end," Mark wrote, "I just ended up spelling out 'thirteen'." --- Didn't he see? Answers must be three characters long - they just wanted the leading zero. ;-)

    Actually, they wanted a complete sentence.

    "I was 13 when I first flew on an airplane."

    That is what my teacher told me when I'd give answers like "13".

  • Efpophis (unregistered) in reply to Calli Arcale
    The young padawan must learn patience, for their is much WTF in the world. Were it all combined in a single Error'd, it would collapse to a singularity and we would all be screwed.

    Nowhere will you find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy...

  • (cs) in reply to Carl T
    Carl T:
    How can Mark's age be a dimensionless number? And why, then does it have to be an integer?

    As a physicist and occasional teacher, I would have failed him for not stating the units of that quantity.

    Good to know you make mention of word "occasional" for teacher. How come you not make mention of it before "physicist"?

    All mass is interaction.

  • Someone (unregistered) in reply to frits
    frits:
    Post it in the sidebar if you feel so strongly about it.

    Why should I post it in the sidebar? There seems to be enough room in the main articles for posting the same BSOD nonsense over and over again, but not for my submission?

    Anon:
    Here's a thought...Maybe your submission sucked and that's why it didn't get posted? Or maybe Alex gets more than one submission and it takes some time to trawl through them.

    Here's another thought: maybe it did not suck, but Alex Papa IS a what the fuck!? And oh yeah, His Divine Excellency gets a million submissions per second, but has enough time to post the same BSOD nonsense over and over again.

    Here's yet another thought: maybe all of these selected submissions suck too? Look at last week's Error'd submissions for example. The WTFness of at least TWO of them was questionable and HAS been questioned in the comments section.

    PS: You don't need to patronize Alex Papa just because he owns this site.

  • Jack (unregistered) in reply to abigo
    abigo:
    [image]

    Yes. That is odd. That is odd, indeed. And I'm not referring to the screen.

    Yes, I noticed the same thing. Guy has a gas mask fetish. In public no less. Girl following submissively. But sure, whatever works for you.

  • (cs) in reply to Someone
    Someone:
    WAAAA! WAAAAA!
    It's OK! Have you tried anti-depressants yet? I hear snoofle can hook you up...
    Someone:
    PS: You don't need to not patronize Alex Papa just because he owns this site.
    That's what you meant, no? Hmmm, maybe your submission DID suck...

    Also, we're not worried that he'll ban us, we're worried that he'll find us and kill our families in front of us while making us watch him fucking our dog. Alex is evil! EVIL I TELLS YA!

  • (cs) in reply to Anketam
    Anketam:
    frits:
    So if any number divided by zero is undefined, and zero divided by any number is zero, and any number divide by itself is one, what is 0/0?
    Personally I say undefined since it is equal to everything. However, according to C# 0/0 = NaN (Yes C# does not throw a divide by 0 exception when it hits this) http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/system.double.nan(v=vs.71).aspx
    Well In that case you are correct as arithmetically 0/0 is indeterminate (udefined) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zero_divided_by_zero)

    Yours Yazeran

    Plan: To go to Mars one day with a hammer.

    Edit: Ok so much for answering before reading all comments....

  • Someone (unregistered) in reply to C-Octothorpe
    C-Octothorpe:
    That's what you meant, no?
    No I meant exactly what I wrote.
    C-Octothorpe:
    Hmmm, maybe your submission DID suck...
    How did you arrive at that, without even knowing what the submission was?
    C-Octothorpe:
    Also, we're not worried that he'll ban us, we're worried that he'll find us and kill our families in front of us while making us watch him fucking our dog. Alex is evil! EVIL I TELLS YA!
    Not sure about my submission, but your nonsense imagination does suck. Alex Papa can do none of it, because he is the real what the fuck on this site.
  • Someone (unregistered) in reply to Rnd(
    Rnd(:
    Even if there was , or . the amount of decimals is ridiculous. -19.999 or -1.9999 What sort of thermometer they use to reach those levels?

    Duh! Do you even know how floating point arithmetic works? Go back to school, and start by writing some C programs.

  • acprogrammer (unregistered) in reply to Anketam

    That's proper behavior for IEEE floating point numbers and any decent floating implementation should do that, not just C#.

    The value of 0/0 depends on which 0 is smaller (just like the value of infinity / infinity depends on which infinity is bigger). Consider (x/1)/(x/2), if x=0. If we cancel the x before dividing, we get 2. if not, we get 0/0. So, the top 0 must be bigger than the bottom 0, even though they are both 0.

    The HP 48 calculator consciously gives another mathematically indeterminate form, 0^0, as 1, as explained by http://www.hpcalc.org/hp48/docs/faq/48faq-5.html.

  • Anon (unregistered) in reply to Someone
    Someone:
    Rnd(:
    Even if there was , or . the amount of decimals is ridiculous. -19.999 or -1.9999 What sort of thermometer they use to reach those levels?

    Duh! Do you even know how floating point arithmetic works? Go back to school, and start by writing some C programs.

    Duh! Do you even know how science works? Or what decimal points mean? Or what the word precision means? Or even anything about designing user interfaces?

  • Anon (unregistered) in reply to Someone
    Someone:
    Waaa, waaa...look at me...I deserve everybody's undying attention...

    Here's a thought, why don't you ask Alex for your money back then?

    Or maybe you could go start your own website dedicated just to your own genius. Call it "the daily whinny bitch" or something. I'm sure lots of people would appreciate an alternative to TDWTF where they can see all these hilarious gems the evil Alex is keeping from us.

  • (cs) in reply to Harry S.
    Harry S.:
    "In the end," Mark wrote, "I just ended up spelling out 'thirteen'." --- Didn't he see? Answers must be three characters long - they just wanted the leading zero. ;-)

    I think they wanted the decimal, 13.0

  • (cs) in reply to Poopy
    Poopy:
    Jellineck:
    Jan:
    I don't get it, the picture says "-1.999"°C

    -> C is Celsius, not Kelvin, so what's wrong about that?

    That translates to -1,999°C which is far below absolute zero.

    Yep. Just took the troll bait.

    I can't tell just by looking at the picture if it's a "." or "," or nothing at all; but how exactly does 1.999 translate to 1,999?

    1.999 European = 1,999 American

  • Jellineck (unregistered) in reply to AN AWESOME CODER
    AN AWESOME CODER:
    Jan:
    Okay, now I get what YOUR problem is with the picture!

    You think it says -1999°C. But it doesn't. The device is german, in Germany we use , instead of . (and vice versa).

    So in american terms it just says -1.999°C (slightly below the freezing point of water...)

    So the real WTF is posting pictures of "wrong" stuff, although you just don't get that other countries and cultures might use other conventions.

    If there is no seperator (Neither "," nor "."), then the number is by default a whole number. So, it says -19999 throughout the universe. There is no separator in that picture.

    SO GO AWAY.

    Yeah...I totally fucked that up in my initial post. I need to figure out if I'm going to pay attention to work, or to TDWTF on Friday mornings...

    (or should that be ,,,).

  • (cs) in reply to Someone
    Someone:
    No I meant exactly what I wrote.
    Um, OK... Well it doesn't make any sense then, at least not from your butt-hurt perspective.
    Someone:
    C-Octothorpe:
    Hmmm, maybe your submission DID suck...
    How did you arrive at that, without even knowing what the submission was?
    Just read your own posts.
    Someone:
    Not sure about my submission, but your nonsense imagination does suck.
    Really? I thought it was funny, in an over the top, mocking you sort of way.
    Someone:
    Alex Papa can do none of it, because he is the real what the fuck on this site.
    Well, he sure as hell managed to turn you into a whiney little bitch, no?

    Either way: [image]

  • Jay (unregistered) in reply to Rnd(
    Rnd(:
    Even if there was , or . the amount of decimals is ridiculous. -19.999 or -1.9999 What sort of thermometer they use to reach those levels?

    Well, if it's -1.9999 degrees outside, there's no way I'm going out, it's way too cold. But if it's only -1.99 degrees, well, that's not too bad, I can tolerate that.

  • Machtyn (unregistered) in reply to whiskeylover
    whiskeylover:
    TRWTF is posting Windows BSODs over and over again. That joke ceased to be funny after the 97892374th version.

    Wouldn't that be the 0x97892374 (0x00239321 0x00004325 0x00235071 0x789153713)?

  • Jay (unregistered) in reply to frits
    frits:
    So if any number divided by zero is undefined, and zero divided by any number is zero, and any number divide by itself is one, what is 0/0?

    I believe Isaac Newton solved this problem somewhere around AD 1670. It's not really very mysterious any more.

    Perhaps next you want to speculate about the intriguing question of whether it is possible to reach China by sailing west from Europe.

  • Jay (unregistered)

    RE when you first flew in an airplane:

    Well sure, there are always going to be odd cases that fall outside the constraints in the edits! Obviously the person who developed this screen just took it for granted that most people do not fly on an airplane before they turn 100.

  • Brendan (unregistered)

    Where does the "How old were you when you frist travelled by airplane?" question ask for years?

    Shirley, it's asking for seconds.

  • (cs) in reply to Someone
    Someone:
    frits:
    Post it in the sidebar if you feel so strongly about it.

    Why should I post it in the sidebar? There seems to be enough room in the main articles for posting the same BSOD nonsense over and over again, but not for my submission?

    If you want to make sure something is done, do it yourself. As far as to where it's posted: who cares? What are you, some kind of attention seeking whore?
    Someone:
    PS: You don't need to patronize Alex Papa just because he owns this site.
    If I don't kiss Alex's ass once in a while, I'm afraid he'll never feature another one of my comments.

    ...and that, sir, is serious business.

  • (cs) in reply to Jay
    Jay:
    frits:
    So if any number divided by zero is undefined, and zero divided by any number is zero, and any number divide by itself is one, what is 0/0?

    I believe Isaac Newton solved this problem somewhere around AD 1670. It's not really very mysterious any more.

    Perhaps next you want to speculate about the intriguing question of whether it is possible to reach China by sailing west from Europe.

    WELL, WHAT'S THE ANSWER?! I GOTTA KNOW! DON'T LEAVE ME HANGING!

  • Your Name (unregistered) in reply to Jack
    Jack:
    abigo:
    [image]

    Yes. That is odd. That is odd, indeed. And I'm not referring to the screen.

    Yes, I noticed the same thing. Guy has a gas mask fetish. In public no less. Girl following submissively. But sure, whatever works for you.

    Statistically, more motorcycle accidents result in an impact to the chin bar than any other area of the helmet, which is why 3/4 helmets are strictly for idiots and Harley roadpirates (but I repeat myself).

  • Nickster (unregistered) in reply to Paul Neumann
    Paul Neumann:
    43,348,131 files each less than 4k (assuming cluster/node/segment/sector size depending on filesystem) will take 165.36GB of disk space. Apparently some of these files have 0b lengths.

    0-byte files would explain a lot. I was just going to point out that 1,899,650 bytes divided by 43,348,131 files is approximately 0.35 bits per file!

  • Tud (unregistered) in reply to Anketam
    Anketam:
    I am more curious at how someone has 165 GB of logs.
    He doesn't! He has 1899650 bytes, or 1.9MB.
  • Simon (unregistered)

    Actually, negative temperatures (as measured in kelvin) are quite possible.

  • nerf herder (unregistered) in reply to Simon
    Simon:
    Actually, negative temperatures (as measured in kelvin) are quite possible.

    From the wiki:

    a system with a truly negative temperature is not colder than absolute zero; in fact, temperatures colder than absolute zero are impossible by definition. Rather, a system with a truly negative Kelvin temperature is hotter than any system with a positive temperature (in the sense that if a negative-temperature system and a positive-temperature system come in contact, heat will flow from the negative- to the positive-temperature system).

    Most familiar systems cannot achieve negative temperatures, because adding energy always increases their entropy. Some systems, however (see the examples below), have a maximum amount of energy that they can hold, and as they approach that maximum energy their entropy actually begins to decrease. Because temperature may be formally defined by the relationship between energy and entropy, such a system's temperature becomes negative, even though energy is being added -- implying that the system's heat capacity is negative.

    Yeah, I'm sure that's what they had in mind on the temperature reading for the outside air.

    And just in case people only read the first few comments - there is no , or . in the temperature between the 1 and frist 9. That little bit of white is part of the cloud, not an imaginary comma or period.

    captcha: immitto - I'll post another comment in immitto

  • nerf herder (unregistered)

    This reminds me of some code we had that compared two numbers, and could display the temperatures and the delta in Celsius or Fahrenheit. We thought the safe thing is to keep it all in Celsius, and then convert if needed at the end.

    That appeared to be fine until we tested it with zeros. T1 was 0, T2 was 0, dT was 0. Converted to F, that's T1=32, T2=32, dT=32. Not what we expected.

  • Karl (unregistered)

    Comparing two numbers is TRWTF! Look, no two things in nature are exactly equal. This equality bullshit is just more politically correct nonsense.

  • Anonymous coward (unregistered)

    Pretty sure the "logs" folder contains 77 porn movies.

  • (cs)

    Of course "actual effort is required." If it was effortless, they wouldn't pay us for it.

  • (cs) in reply to Watson
    Watson:
    Anketam:
    frits:
    So if any number divided by zero is undefined, and zero divided by any number is zero, and any number divide by itself is one, what is 0/0?
    Personally I say undefined since it is equal to everything. However, according to C# 0/0 = NaN (Yes C# does not throw a divide by 0 exception when it hits this) http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/system.double.nan(v=vs.71).aspx
    But that's for doubles, and 0 is an integer.

    "Except when it's real."

  • (cs) in reply to Harry S.
    Harry S.:
    "In the end," Mark wrote, "I just ended up spelling out 'thirteen'." --- Didn't he see? Answers must be three characters long - they just wanted the leading zero. ;-)

    No, no that would make the number octal, reducing the number by two. Don't you know any computer stuff? The "correct" answer would be "0xD".

  • Max (unregistered) in reply to Jesse
    Jesse:
    In less developed countries, people incorrectly use "." as a delimiter instead of properly using a ",". Sadly, we americans must yet again lead the world in proper grammar. So when he said translate, he meant from the "lower" countries usage to the correct one.

    There, how's that for trolling?

    Also, in less developed countries, people write dates as day/month/year, where as the correct and LOGICAL way to write is month/day/year. Wait, wha?..

  • nerf herder (unregistered) in reply to Max
    Max:
    Jesse:
    In less developed countries, people incorrectly use "." as a delimiter instead of properly using a ",". Sadly, we americans must yet again lead the world in proper grammar. So when he said translate, he meant from the "lower" countries usage to the correct one.

    There, how's that for trolling?

    Also, in less developed countries, people write dates as day/month/year, where as the correct and LOGICAL way to write is month/day/year. Wait, wha?..
    Like I tell my dad, a conservative minister - if God wanted us to use the decimal system, he would've given us ten fingers and ten toes.

  • (cs) in reply to Brendan
    Brendan:
    Where does the "How old were you when you frist travelled by airplane?" question ask for years?

    Shirley, it's asking for seconds.

    Nosir! Not until it cleans its plate first!

  • (cs) in reply to googlybear
    googlybear:
    Jellineck:
    Poopy:
    Jellineck:
    Jan:
    I don't get it, the picture says "-1.999"°C

    -> C is Celsius, not Kelvin, so what's wrong about that?

    That translates to -1,999°C which is far below absolute zero.

    Yep. Just took the troll bait.

    I can't tell just by looking at the picture if it's a "." or "," or nothing at all; but how exactly does 1.999 translate to 1,999?
    The German thousands separator is "."
    he did say less developed countries...
    Less developed, like the country that taught you how to build the atomic bomb and fly to the moon?

  • Max (unregistered) in reply to nerf herder
    nerf herder:
    Like I tell my dad, a conservative minister - if God wanted us to use the decimal system, he would've given us ten fingers and ten toes.
    +1

    Captcha: secundum - an element with half-live of one second

  • Hamster (unregistered)

    There's no WTF at all with Mac screenshot.

    It always gives its sizes in both 10^x and 2^x definitions.

    So.... I don't see any problem at all.

  • (cs)

    It clearly says -19999. -1[,. ]9[,. ]999 make no sense, because A) there aren't any of those there (just bits of cloud) and B) why on the heck would it show that many decimal places?

  • (cs) in reply to Max
    Max:
    Jesse:
    In less developed countries, people incorrectly use "." as a delimiter instead of properly using a ",". Sadly, we americans must yet again lead the world in proper grammar. So when he said translate, he meant from the "lower" countries usage to the correct one.

    There, how's that for trolling?

    Also, in less developed countries, people write dates as day/month/year, where as the correct and LOGICAL way to write is month/day/year. Wait, wha?..
    Excuse me, the only acceptable way to write dates is YYYY/MM/DD, or better YYYY/MM/DD HH:II:SS, with only the following variations:

    1. Other separators are allowed, including none at all, however date and time must always be separated (usually by a space or an '@').
    2. Day name and time zone can be added at the end of the string only. (Though time zone shouldn't be necessary because the dates should be stored in UTC.)

    If you're not following these rules exactly, you're doing it wrong and people will hate you for it.

    Also TRWTF is that the comment form uses BBCode while the forum uses HTML.

  • Mrs. Nagesh (unregistered) in reply to Harry S.
    Harry S.:
    "In the end," Mark wrote, "I just ended up spelling out 'thirteen'." --- Didn't he see? Answers must be three characters long - they just wanted the leading zero. ;-)

    Yes but that would turn it into Octal.

  • Mrs. Nagesh (unregistered) in reply to abigo
    abigo:
    [image]

    Yes. That is odd. That is odd, indeed. And I'm not referring to the screen.

    Not odd at all. That's crash helmets in profile.

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