• Franz Kafka (unregistered) in reply to sewiv
    sewiv:
    Apparently not too many of the commenters work with current modern electricians. All of the ones I deal with are fully trained in data wiring as well as power wiring, and it's part of the apprenticeship training around here as well.

    That may be, but I won't assume any random electrician I meet can do a good job of it. Hell, half the network techs have trouble running cable. The root of the problem is not following up on the problem or even talking to the guy before installation.

  • (cs) in reply to Anonymous
    Anonymous:
    Ah, but given that sarcasm is a subset of irony, you should probably have been using 'ʢ'!
    Now you just need to work on your set theory.
  • Seraph (unregistered) in reply to savar
    savar:
    * Network cable present? Check – still there. * Company router? Check – working. * DSL sync? Nope – strange. * Internet access working? Check – WTF?

    Sebastian obviously never read Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance.

    Who would check the internet access after seeing that the DSL sync light wasn't working? It worked in this particular case, but his brain clearly isn't programmed like an engineer's.

    This suggests that you're an awful troubleshooter:

    First: Don't you think if the CEOs internet was flaky that he would be pissed off about that, and not hit VPN?

    Second: Just because you expect A to cause B doesn't mean you should assume that it will. If everything was working the way it was supposed to you'd have no reason to be troubleshooting in the first place. When a good engineer is troubleshooting a problem he knows that figuring out what symptoms should be present but arn't is important.

  • Mark (unregistered) in reply to Code Dependent
    Code Dependent:
    Grig Larson:
    - Opened my bedroom door - And berated me about a mess I had left for 20 minutes - While I was in bed, reading, too stunned to respond
    You didn't jump up and ease him back out the door, possibly jacking his jaw and bloodying his nose in the process?
    Grig Larson:
    ...stayed in another state for a few weeks...in case he came to my house again and kicked my ass or something.
    Oh. Well, nevermind, then.

    That's so very sad.

    You know, in my bedroom there are any number of items that could instantly become equalizers.

    In my bedroom one of those equalizers is a .380.

  • London Contractor Mart (unregistered) in reply to SomeCoder
    SomeCoder:
    shepd:
    He was the one who installed the VPN at the CEO's home, but he had no idea the CEO might be addressing him when complaining about not having VPN access? Fire his ass for being clueless.

    After the CEO quits for abuse. There's no need to start off acting like a crazy man over something relatively non-business-stopping like this. Take it easy, tap the guy on the shoulder, say "Hey, I'm having trouble with the VPN at my house. Would you mind helping me with it once you've finished your lunch?".

    Yeah, I was thinking the exact same thing. Who comes rushing in, screaming like a lunatic over something like that?

    I believe the story, I know people that would do that but that doesn't make it any less abhorrent.

    If someone ever spoke to me like that they would very quickly have to either calm down and apologize, or they'd be the ones with the problem of trying to hire a replacement whilst having an emplyment tribunal over their head for constructive dismissal...

    But as I'm a contractor I guess I'd just sue them for breach of contract because nowhere in my contracts does it mention that I can be treated like cr4p!!

  • Steve (unregistered) in reply to rfsmit
    rfsmit:
    Anonymous:
    Ah, but given that sarcasm is a subset of irony, you should probably have been using 'ʢ'!
    Now you just need to work on your set theory.
    Actually, I think you need to work on your English. All sarcasm is irony, but not all irony is sarcasm. That makes sarcasm a subset of irony. Oh, but maybe you were trying to be sarcastic or ironic yourself, in which case I've been meta-commented into complete confusion.
  • windex (unregistered) in reply to Kilrah
    et a DSL modem, with DSL line input, and one single RJ45 plug (like most modems providers give out) to which the family PC is connected. Most have 192.168.1.1 as default, and a running DHCP server. 1 month later decide you want WiFi so that your daughter can surf then net with her new laptop, get an AP. Plug the AP into the modem - oh it doesn't work... of course, as most APs come with 192.168.1.1 as default, with a running DHCP server.

    As pointed earlier, VERY common case.

    No it isn't. Not if you buy the right equipment. Sounds like you bought a wireless router instead of an access point. Most AP's are setup to get their address by DHCP or in linksys's case are assigned 192.168.1.245. All linksys routers (wired or wireless are .1)

  • John (unregistered)

    Dang. I thought for sure the boss was using his neighbours WLAN

  • Patrick (unregistered)

    Wait, someone who wasn't supposed to know about DHCP and networking didn't know about DHCP and networking? WTF?

  • pv2b (unregistered) in reply to windex
    windex:
    et a DSL modem, with DSL line input, and one single RJ45 plug (like most modems providers give out) to which the family PC is connected. Most have 192.168.1.1 as default, and a running DHCP server. 1 month later decide you want WiFi so that your daughter can surf then net with her new laptop, get an AP. Plug the AP into the modem - oh it doesn't work... of course, as most APs come with 192.168.1.1 as default, with a running DHCP server.

    As pointed earlier, VERY common case.

    No it isn't. Not if you buy the right equipment. Sounds like you bought a wireless router instead of an access point. Most AP's are setup to get their address by DHCP or in linksys's case are assigned 192.168.1.245. All linksys routers (wired or wireless are .1)

    You don't even need to buy a proper access point. In a pinch, buy a router (which perversely enough typically is cheaper than an access point), shut off the DHCP, make sure the static IP of the router on the LAN side isn't interfering with a host on the LAN. Then plug everything in to the LAN ports (not the WAN port). That will in essence make the wireless router act as an access point.

    Don't try this at work, kids.

  • (cs) in reply to Mark
    Mark:
    In my bedroom one of those equalizers is a .380.
    Now we're talking!
  • (cs) in reply to KenW
    KenW:
    Perhaps it's just the fact that you post such idiotic things that it brings out the worst in me... Or maybe I just don't like pretentious wanna-be programmers very much (which would also explain you).
    I understand... gotta pump up that deflated ego by trying to lower others to your level. That's okay. Whatever makes you feel good about yourself, man.
  • ProfM2 (unregistered)

    This sounds strangely familiar to a hometown incident in Fargo, North Dakota

    Michael Damron

    On Jan. 22, 1995, a lone vandal cut 19 underground telephone cables at five Fargo locations.

    The sabotage disrupted service to more than 20,000 U S West customers in Fargo and northwestern Minnesota for several days. Damage was estimated at $1 million.

    Fargo police traced the vandalism to Michael Damron, then a 31-year-old North Dakota State University electrical engineering student.

    On Jan. 24, Damron fled Fargo after refusing to let police search his apartment.

    A search later turned up the gas-powered saw Damron used to cut the lines - and a notebook listing plans for the sabotage, a map marked with the sites of the cut lines and a list of possible getaways, including "motorized hang glider, dirt bike, golf cart, scuba-diving equipment."

    Damron remained at large for nearly two years before FBI agents caught him in Iowa. His bail was set at $1 million when he returned to Fargo.

    Damron was sentenced to 10 years in prison in 1997 after he pleaded guilty to cutting the phone lines and to possessing stolen electronic equipment.

  • peter green (unregistered) in reply to SoonerMatt
    SoonerMatt:
    In the end I found that he had all of the CAT5 cables terminated in the attic and spliced together to distribute the phone lines. The phones were run through the cat 5 and cable outlets were placed everywhere so that a cable modem could be placed at each machine.

    Of course, the cable guy came and pointed out that his cable bill would be 5x$40 per month because each cable modem and account would be a separate charge.

    It's a week later and I don't know what they have figured out, but I wash my hands of it.

    Sounds easy enough to deal with as long as you can live with 100 megabit ethernet. Phone only needs one pair and 100 megabit ethernet only needs two so you can run both down the same run of standard four pair cat5.

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