• (cs) in reply to QJo
    QJo:
    some guy:
    No, sorry. We can't have less England bashing.

    Seriously.

    The climate sucks. The oppressive government sucks. The work ethic generally sucks. The traffic sucks. The superiority complex sucks. It's a full spectrum-suck, actually.

    ... but for all that, it's far superior to the USA in every way.

    I'm OK with you thinking that. More cheeseburgers for me.

  • QJo (unregistered) in reply to golddog
    golddog:
    Yes, last time I was in Sydney, the morning I was to leave I was down to the Pyrmont Bridge Hotel on the corner to get some breakfast around 8:45.

    I was told that the grill didn't open up til 9. But, a few people were around having drinks. I figured it was just night workers stopping for one on the way home or something. I did think it odd that at 8:45 AM I could get a beer but not brekky.

    Related to some of the comments about pubs closing in the UK, the last time I was there (1999), they closed at 11PM. Did something change and people finally come to their senses, allowing them to stay open later?

    a) Probably the person whose job it is to make breakfast had not started their shift. It's easier to take the top of a bottle of beer than cook bacon and eggs.

    b) Something changed and people finally came to their senses, allowing them to stay open later. But even in 1999 there were always places to drink that stayed open later than 23:00. You just had to know where they were.

  • Someone who can't be bothered to login from work (unregistered) in reply to golddog
    golddog:
    Yes, last time I was in Sydney, the morning I was to leave I was down to the Pyrmont Bridge Hotel on the corner to get some breakfast around 8:45.

    I was told that the grill didn't open up til 9. But, a few people were around having drinks. I figured it was just night workers stopping for one on the way home or something. I did think it odd that at 8:45 AM I could get a beer but not brekky.

    Related to some of the comments about pubs closing in the UK, the last time I was there (1999), they closed at 11PM. Did something change and people finally come to their senses, allowing them to stay open later?

    The licencing laws were changed so they can open as long as the local licencing authority will allow. It hasn't actually made a huge amount of difference, the rarely stay open much later.

    In part because very few authorities give out licences which let them let them open until the early hours of the morning and also in part because a lot of landlords don't actually want to stay open all night.

  • (cs) in reply to frits
    frits:
    QJo:
    some guy:
    No, sorry. We can't have less England bashing.

    Seriously.

    The climate sucks. The oppressive government sucks. The work ethic generally sucks. The traffic sucks. The superiority complex sucks. It's a full spectrum-suck, actually.

    ... but for all that, it's far superior to the USA in every way.

    I'm OK with you thinking that. More cheeseburgers for me.

    Let the officers and crew of the USS Brittania (CVN) enjoy their delusions...
  • QJo (unregistered) in reply to hoodaticus
    hoodaticus:
    frits:
    QJo:
    some guy:
    No, sorry. We can't have less England bashing.

    Seriously.

    The climate sucks. The oppressive government sucks. The work ethic generally sucks. The traffic sucks. The superiority complex sucks. It's a full spectrum-suck, actually.

    ... but for all that, it's far superior to the USA in every way.

    I'm OK with you thinking that. More cheeseburgers for me.

    Let the officers and crew of the USS Britannia (CVN) enjoy their delusions...

    FTFY, YSC

  • Dave (unregistered) in reply to dohpaz42
    dohpaz42:
    I agree, in all respects. At my current job, I sit directly under the air conditioner - where I'm at we've had 100+ F days and the A/C is blowing 68F air all over me. I've been told that the maintenance guy (a friend of the owner or some such) would fix this, but it's been three months with no fix. So one day I decide to place a large sheet of paper over the vent (tucked away in the drop ceiling) to redirect the air away from me. Sometimes you just gotta fix sh*t yourself.

    You know, I had something similar happen to me at my old workplace. The desk where I sat was positioned so that a spotlight shone almost directly into my face. It was really hard to work there. I sent around memos about it, I asked my boss to do something, I wore sunglasses for over two weeks to try and mitigate it, nothing helped. Then after six months I decided I'd had enough, and WALKED OVER AND SWITCHED THE LIGHT OFF!!. Sometimes you just gotta fix sh*t yourself.

  • mmmmm (unregistered) in reply to some guy
    some guy:
    No, sorry. We can't have less England bashing.

    Seriously.

    The climate sucks. The oppressive government sucks. The work ethic generally sucks. The traffic sucks. The superiority complex sucks. It's a full spectrum-suck, actually.

    Aww come on. Have you ever worked in France? Wait... the weather is good here.

  • Jay (unregistered) in reply to mmmmm
    mmmmm:
    some guy:
    No, sorry. We can't have less England bashing.

    Seriously.

    The climate sucks. The oppressive government sucks. The work ethic generally sucks. The traffic sucks. The superiority complex sucks. It's a full spectrum-suck, actually.

    Aww come on. Have you ever worked in France? Wait... the weather is good here.

    People WORK in France?

  • Jay (unregistered) in reply to Dave
    Dave:
    dohpaz42:
    I agree, in all respects. At my current job, I sit directly under the air conditioner - where I'm at we've had 100+ F days and the A/C is blowing 68F air all over me. I've been told that the maintenance guy (a friend of the owner or some such) would fix this, but it's been three months with no fix. So one day I decide to place a large sheet of paper over the vent (tucked away in the drop ceiling) to redirect the air away from me. Sometimes you just gotta fix sh*t yourself.

    You know, I had something similar happen to me at my old workplace. The desk where I sat was positioned so that a spotlight shone almost directly into my face. It was really hard to work there. I sent around memos about it, I asked my boss to do something, I wore sunglasses for over two weeks to try and mitigate it, nothing helped. Then after six months I decided I'd had enough, and WALKED OVER AND SWITCHED THE LIGHT OFF!!. Sometimes you just gotta fix sh*t yourself.

    Apparently you don't work in a union shop. If someone who is not a licensed electrician turns off a light, that would start a major grievance procedure and you'd probably be fired for violating union work rules. If just ANYBODY can go around turning lights on and off, not only does this create a major safety hazard, but the union electrician's job would be in danger.

  • IPXAres (unregistered) in reply to Bob
    Bob:
    Don L:
    Cinderbox and plywood?!?!

    Where I worked, we had to code using typewriters from the 17th century, we had to write 10.000 lines of code and work for 28 hours per day, the building didn't have a roof or walls, we were constantly whipped, and we had to walk 30km to get to the toilet which was occupied except 5 minutes of the day, we didn't have any breaks, and we had to work in complete darkness in the middle of the freeway.

    But we were happy!

    So you worked at Electronic Arts?

    You sir will be receiving a bill for a new keyboard shortly.

  • Calli Arcale (unregistered) in reply to lucidfox
    lucidfox:
    And yes, there were a few merits to Colin Baker's run, even before you count Peri's two positive attributes

    Remy, would you kindly cut down on that? I can tolerate it when commenters occasionally do things like that, but an editor is just setting a bad example.

    Yes. After all, Peri had far more than just two positive attributes. It wasn't her fault the scriptwriters seemed to think they were writing for Jo Grant. (And I cannot forgive Pip and Jane Baker, or JNT, or whoever it was that made the decision to write her out by inexplicably marrying her to a shouty warlord whom she barely tolerated. I'm still not really sure that's preferable to being killed off during a brain transplant project. Notably, Elizabeth Sladen had said when she left that she just wanted Sarah Jane Smith to not be married off or killed off. So it's interesting they managed to do BOTH with Peri. And badly.)

    "The Trial of a Time Lord" and "Time Lash" were, honestly, terrible. I liked bits of "Trial of a Time Lord", but the overall arc had some serious problems. "Time Lash" was simply ridiculous. And though I kind of liked "The Twin Dilemma", I know that is not a very popular opinion. Otherwise, Colin Baker was fine as the Doctor, and another good season (i.e. not TOFATL) would've really shown that, I think. There was too much playing for laughs and stories not really being taken seriously (sort of like Tom Baker's next-to-last season; I admire the late Douglas Adams greatly, but he honestly bit off more than he could chew when he agreed to become script editor). "Two Doctors" was nice (great to see Patrick Troughton back, and Jamie's always nice), and I liked "Mark of the Rani" (hated "Time and the Rani", though), and both "Revelation of the Daleks" and "Attack of the Cybermen" managed to revive some of the basic horror of those monsters that had for too long been forgotten -- the horror that we could become them, that they're not quite as alien as we'd like to think.

    So, I think The Real WTF is "The Trial of a Time Lord" and the series' subsequent hiatus.

    :-P

  • Valczir (unregistered) in reply to dohpaz42
    dohpaz42:
    WC:
    Robert would drive me nuts... Right up until he told me that he's already estimated WAY more time than I needed to do everything. And then he'd be my best friend, and welcome to continue his beer and porn addictions. I'd probably ask him to tape up the windows, though.

    Nah, I'd tape them myself.

    I agree, in all respects. At my current job, I sit directly under the air conditioner - where I'm at we've had 100+ F days and the A/C is blowing 68F air all over me. I've been told that the maintenance guy (a friend of the owner or some such) would fix this, but it's been three months with no fix. So one day I decide to place a large sheet of paper over the vent (tucked away in the drop ceiling) to redirect the air away from me. Sometimes you just gotta fix sh*t yourself.

    Whoa, wait. Why did you want to block that off? Are you some weird-ass southerner who actually thinks room temperature is in the 70s? A cool blast of 68 degrees would be nice, imo - that's roughly three degrees above room temperature, where I'm from.

  • h8 ipod (unregistered) in reply to lucidfox
    lucidfox:
    Every time a woman is raped, it makes me smile a little. Bitches get what they deserved.

    Remy, would you kindly cut down on that? I can tolerate it when a man justifiably does things like that, but ass-to-mouth is just taking advantage of what should be a disciplinary situation, that I agree, we women often deserve.

    lucidfox is getting me all horny.

  • Ken B. (unregistered) in reply to Jay
    Jay:
    mmmmm:
    some guy:
    No, sorry. We can't have less England bashing.

    Seriously.

    The climate sucks. The oppressive government sucks. The work ethic generally sucks. The traffic sucks. The superiority complex sucks. It's a full spectrum-suck, actually.

    Aww come on. Have you ever worked in France? Wait... the weather is good here.
    People WORK in France?
    Someone has to make all the white flags. <grdfc>

  • (cs) in reply to dohpaz42
    dohpaz42:
    WC:
    Robert would drive me nuts... Right up until he told me that he's already estimated WAY more time than I needed to do everything. And then he'd be my best friend, and welcome to continue his beer and porn addictions. I'd probably ask him to tape up the windows, though.

    Nah, I'd tape them myself.

    I agree, in all respects. At my current job, I sit directly under the air conditioner - where I'm at we've had 100+ F days and the A/C is blowing 68F air all over me. I've been told that the maintenance guy (a friend of the owner or some such) would fix this, but it's been three months with no fix. So one day I decide to place a large sheet of paper over the vent (tucked away in the drop ceiling) to redirect the air away from me. Sometimes you just gotta fix sh*t yourself.

    You don't work at a certain French-owned textile company, do you?

  • (cs) in reply to C-Octothorpe
    C-Octothorpe:
    Robert:
    Can we have less of the England bashing please? This is the second time in a couple of weeks. (A return to taking the mick out of Indian outsourcing is fine by me, but feel free to go back to omitting the country when setting up the scene).

    Seriously.

    Yeah, it rains sometimes here. Yeah, we like to go to the pub. But how can that possibly be relevant to an IT WTF?

    N.B. For the record, that job sounds awesome. How many free trips to the pub per day? !!!! :D

    I don't think masturbating at work is avoidable, even in the UK...

    FTFY

  • Herr Otto Flick (unregistered) in reply to Jay
    Jay:
    mmmmm:
    some guy:
    No, sorry. We can't have less England bashing.

    Seriously.

    The climate sucks. The oppressive government sucks. The work ethic generally sucks. The traffic sucks. The superiority complex sucks. It's a full spectrum-suck, actually.

    Aww come on. Have you ever worked in France? Wait... the weather is good here.

    People WORK in France?

    Only for 30 hours a week, and not between mid-day and 3pm.

  • London banking contractor (unregistered) in reply to Herr Otto Flick
    Herr Otto Flick:
    Jay:
    mmmmm:
    some guy:
    No, sorry. We can't have less England bashing.

    Seriously.

    The climate sucks. The oppressive government sucks. The work ethic generally sucks. The traffic sucks. The superiority complex sucks. It's a full spectrum-suck, actually.

    Aww come on. Have you ever worked in France? Wait... the weather is good here.

    People WORK in France?

    Only for 30 hours a week, and not between mid-day and 3pm.

    Hahahaha!! The work ethic in England sucks? Wow... I worked in the USA for a long period... The guy I worked with learned pretty quickly the way it's done in England - long hours and beaten deadlines, the REST of the time (once the work was done) could be spent in the Pub! (the 'Pub' was the Pacific Coast Brewery in Oakland). We had about 2 weeks remaining to do minor changes, fixes and drinking.

    The weather on the other hand does suck in England. Stifling hot for 2 days then rain for 3... Great....

    Anyway - this guy probably worked for that terrible company - NTL..... I spent some time there. Awful. You needed a nearby pub to get through the day!!!

  • Spoc42 (unregistered) in reply to Coyne
    Coyne:
    Henry Wilson:
    So.. If the water is not on yet. What happens in the bathroom after Robert is.. ehh.. finished?

    I see no bathroom here...

    At least nothing in the story implies there is one. I suspect it was a matter of visiting a bush out back.

    Or maybe that was why they had to make repeat visits to the Pub so often?

    Maybe the other way round: the frequent visits to the pub require frequent visits to the ... Oh, I see the problem!

  • Trevor (unregistered)

    It is a cheque and not a check in the UK

    In addition it is a loo, WC or lavatory not restroom or bathroom.

  • (cs)

    If this is Anarchy, I want to be it.

    Oh, and God Save the Queen.

  • Hortical (unregistered) in reply to QJo
    QJo:
    some guy:
    No, sorry. We can't have less England bashing.

    Seriously.

    The climate sucks. The oppressive government sucks. The work ethic generally sucks. The traffic sucks. The superiority complex sucks. It's a full spectrum-suck, actually.

    ... but for all that, it's far superior to the USA in every way.

    I think Poe's Law applies here: "Without a winking smiley or other blatant display of humor, it is impossible to create a parody of an Englishman that someone won't mistake for the real thing."

  • (cs) in reply to some guy
    some guy:
    No, sorry. We can't have less England bashing.

    Seriously.

    The climate sucks. The oppressive government sucks. The work ethic generally sucks. The traffic sucks. The superiority complex sucks. It's a full spectrum-suck, actually.

    Yet our government believes we are grown up and responsible enough to be allowed to buy a Kinder Surprise without being a deadly hazzard to ourselves or other people. ;)

  • (cs) in reply to C-Octothorpe
    C-Octothorpe:
    I don't think masturbating at work is acceptable, even in the UK...

    I thought that was the definition of work in the UK.

  • (cs) in reply to Dogga
    Dogga:
    Maybe it's really Australia. Yanks wouldn't know the difference. Funny spelling, funny accent....

    QFT

  • Joe (unregistered) in reply to oheso
    oheso:
    C-Octothorpe:
    I don't think masturbating at work is acceptable, even in the UK...

    I thought that was the definition of work in the UK.

    I thought that was the definition of arguing on the internet during business hours.

    (a bunch of handwaving for self-gratification, which is intentionally ignored by everyone else)

    --Joe

  • e john (unregistered) in reply to C-Octothorpe
    C-Octothorpe:
    Robert:
    Can we have less of the England bashing please? This is the second time in a couple of weeks. (A return to taking the mick out of Indian outsourcing is fine by me, but feel free to go back to omitting the country when setting up the scene).

    Seriously.

    Yeah, it rains sometimes here. Yeah, we like to go to the pub. But how can that possibly be relevant to an IT WTF?

    N.B. For the record, that job sounds awesome. How many free trips to the pub per day? !!!! :D

    I don't think masturbating at work is acceptable, even in the UK...

    wait, what ?!?

    captcha: venio - venio get to my place, drop the money

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