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Just a huge amount of makeup
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And that, dear reader, is why you must always be very careful what you write and how you read what someone else has written.
-- Furry cows moo and decompress.
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Well. As long as we are talking about what we see in the photo. What I see is a woman wearing a lot of makeup. Some women are just better at putting it on in an attractive manner. :D
Why are we offended and disturbed so easily? Are you this offended when you see men battered and bruised? How about when you see it in a movie? In a comedy?
And why assume the worst?
Life is fun! Quit trying to be mad! If fewer people assume the worst then there will be fewer people desiring retaliation for misunderstandings and making the worst, worse.
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The majority of what Al Gore proposed is under the "trash" category. "Global Warming is occurring" is the science category. The effects of this are either the theory category or the trash category, depending on the specific effect. "a 50% increase in what is the steady state of the carbon load in earths atmosphere" is the science category (I'm assuming that's actually a valid stat, I don't care enough to verify it) "no explanation except anthropomorphic sources" is, at best, theory. Go ahead prove that increased solar flares haven't caused a slightly higher temperature which has caused the ocean to retain less CO2.
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I like to get all my political and science facts from a tech blog where people fight about typing FRIST
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[quote user="A. N. Mouse"][quote user="IT Girl"]
Well. As long as we are talking about what we see in the photo. What I see is a woman wearing a lot of makeup. Some women are just better at putting it on in an attractive manner. :D
[quote] make-up and style by: FAM - school of artistic make-up, Warsaw, Poland[/quote]
Why are we offended and disturbed so easily? Are you this offended when you see men battered and bruised? How about when you see it in a movie? In a comedy?
And why assume the worst?
Life is fun! Quit trying to be mad! If fewer people assume the worst then there will be fewer people desiring retaliation for misunderstandings and making the worst, worse. [/quote]
I didn't say offended. I said it was disturbing. It's intended to be disturbing that's what the make-up and the expression on her face are for. So yes, when I see it in a movie, I am equally disturbed if those involved in the movie do their jobs well enough. That doesn't make me mad, or even angry. But the picture is not fun and I doubt it was intended to be fun. The story on the other hand is quite amusing. Thereby making the juxtaposition of the remarkable. Hence the reason so many of us remarked.
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Been there, done that, got the t-shirt. Except it wasn't in a professional environment, but in a social one. Girl took whatever I wrote completely out of context and what was a simple request of mine ("Could you please send this to me a day earlier next time?" - it wouldn't be a big deal for her) became a rispid attack on her, acidly replied with copies to a dozen of our friends. It had been a long time since the last time my blood boiled like that.
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C. Froelich, "Total solar irradiance during the last three cycles: What does the low present solar minimum tell us about long-term trends?", AGU, 2008. I hope that's the right paper, anyway. I can't check right now. The author is the right one, for sure. And the time is right, too
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...the code between us and Tammy Burns needs to be placed on a wooden table, taken a picture of, and ...
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This one hits close to home.
I was in my third year, position, and department at a computer software vendor in the healthcare field. Excel and Word macro viruses had just been invented and had started to spread like wildfire.
After the bazillionth email in a row from administration with an attachment containing a macro virus, I (young and foolish) did a Reply All and pointed out the problem, trying to escalate the issue so someone would finally deal with it. I pointed out what you could do to detect and remove the macro virus, and I suggested that someone do something about it systematically before more company PCs became similarly infected.
I got called into the department director's office because, for some reason the administrative staff interpreted my email to say that THEY THEMSELVES had viruses.
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Noone ever believes me when I say that the modern Western society is doomed. There you have it. Noone even tried to read a message before responding to it in the most inappropriate way imaginable.
For those of you who still can't see the problem - it means that the IQ of an average company manager or any other higher-up is placed somewhere between an anencephalic fetus and an amoeba.
People can't even read anymore. This is so pathetic beyond any words that I don't longer even feel angered by the fact that we're doomed. I doubt there are even phrases that could express what one feels when reading such a story - no matter how cleverly constructed and imaginatively worded.
God damn it, I just want to strangle someone.
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I don't see any comments on the email's problem being the unanticipated systematic insertion of line breaks...
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Why did he even send this email to Tammie when it was Tamme who broke the code? Also that picture is just terrible; maybe you can fix it when you finish the article. (It just kinda cuts off partway through a sentence there.)
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No need to be sorry, that was lovely :)
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It took until the third page of comments before someone bothered reading the tooltip. Sharpen up, people.
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This is typical knee-jerk behavior in our PC-dominated world. Hardly an isolated incident, any perceived transgression of PC-ism results in immediate escalation. Do not pass go. Escalate to the highest levels immediately.
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READ THE IPCC REPORTS
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The real Wtf is that there's not enough space between nbsp and and and and and Tammie
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Hated the picture. Really hated it. Had to stare away from it and couldn't wait to scroll down. Felt scummy for reading on, but needed to speak my mind.
Call your mother.
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OMG too funny, my mouthful of coffee just exited via my nose when I read this comment.
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Now who said jokes about violence were never funny? That's a zinger! :-B
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actually... if I was fired because of this, that would be a wrongful termination lawsuit. If all 5 folks on that email chain didn't want to look like idiots on the stand because they can't frigging read, then they'd settle.
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... Tammie Burns must be lubricated and massaged until we can get it to fit in smoothly...
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Really?? You figured that part out yourself did you?? So the name of the article didn't make it clear enough for you?
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ATTABOY!
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From the article: "Tamme Burns, the developer responsible for the loader, decided to add..."
From your follow-up: "Tammie Burns was not the developer responsible for the problem..."
Which is it? You can't have it both ways.
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I've worked in places where I tried that, and got dinged by management for being "confrontational". Talking to your own supervisor first is the option least likely to result in negative consequences for you.
If your supervisor then says "Look, just go talk to X about it and work it out", then you have a defense if things go badly -- but you want to make sure your supervisor has talked to their supervisor first, and probably to all levels of management above them up to the person who both chains of management converge at, so that you and your manager don't get dinged by their management for "ganging up" on the other person.
I have to play this game all the time where I work -- it's one reason a lot of people there are actively and openly hunting other jobs.
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And you sir are a genius. If it's one thing the Left is great at it's wordplay. No one gives a shit about a swamp, but call it a "wet land" and all of a sudden you don't mind using the police powers of the Imperial Federal government to steal it from it's land owner to "protect" it. You want to see a wet land? Go into my back yard after a storm, I'll show you a wet land. And no. It's not a swamp.
It's not a jungle, it's a "rain forest". Jungle has a negative connotation, but start calling it a rain forest and everyone's on board with massive international government programs.
About 1-2 years back the Left started calling climate change skeptics "deniers". This was a blatant attempt at tieing them in with holocaust deniers. The intended effect being to absolve them of their rightful claim to be skeptical of current scientific views (which is healthy and encouraged starting even in middle school science class). By calling skeptics deniers, the attempt is to say "Hey look, they're denying reality!" when in fact there isn't any scientific consensus on climate change. Granted, there may be a majority opinion, but that hardy makes for written-in-stone-fact as history shows.
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Perhaps not, but the phrase "especially when it's directed towards women" should be grounds for disciplinary action. There should be absolutely NO distinction whether violence is directed towards men or women. This is indication that Tammy herself is a sexist.
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Oh you mean the reports written by scientists working for the government who get their funding from the government?
If a scientist came out with a report stating that religion is healthy for people, then you found out the Baptists funded it, would you be skeptical?
But when it's a government funded scientist creating a report that puts government in the position of being the only savior of the world, people suddenly shut up?
There was a quote in the NYT recently about how "Thankfully Obama is going to increase funding to the sciences. This will create more impartial, unbiased scientists." Oh really? Well, I say they'll be anything but unbiased. When your funding comes from the government teet, you'll know when to shut up.
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Ok, you're right, I wasn't very clear. Let me retry that.
"As I read the part about his boss freaking out, although it could have had something to do with the problematic code being written by the owner's son, and the "beaten into submission" from the title could have been talking about how instead of the code being beaten into submission, Dan ended up being beaten into submission about who's fault it was and having to act like it was his fault instead of the owner's son, I knew it was going to be related to some misinterpretation of the "beaten into submission" part of his email"
Wow, that reads much more elegantly. Thank you.
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To everybody who's saying that "especially violence against women" is feminism run amok, you seem to be forgetting the point that, on average, men are stronger than women. Sure, there are some women who are stronger than many men are, but, in general, men are stronger, so women are at a distinct disadvantage in that area.
Now, I'm not saying that you guys are completely wrong. Yes, violence against a man is just as bad against a woman. I'm just saying that demanding equal treatment presumes that men and women are equal, and in this respect, they simply aren't -- at least, not on average.
If you had read the comments, you'd know that Tammie didn't break the code.
Apparently your reading comprehension is on par with Tammie's managers. The whole point of Dan Wiebe's post was to point out that the article was fictionalized, so the answer to "which is it" is what Dan said in the comment, not what was said in the article.
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Just one more comment to say, yes, using the image of an injured woman in the context of this post was completely insensitive and inappropriate.
You shouldn't even have had to think about it.
You should have thought about the idea, and thought better of it a tenth of a second later.
You should also remove the picture.
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And occasionally they're useful (the emails - not the managers). Even more occasionally, they're work-related
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Refer back to someone else post about racism, sexism etc always tends to go one way....
Frankly, I'm always amazed how many people confuse equality with balance. Equal Opportunity (in the workplace) means that every person is judged on their skills and merits needed for their job, not on race, gender, creed etc.... This does not mean that there will be 50% male, 50% female in every occupation (nor 49.2% vs 50.8%). Aside from all else, the imbalance would only slowly balance out if mean and women generally had 100% identical skillsets...In reality, people from certain demographics will always be more attracted to certain types of work, and will therefore more likely be found in those workplaces (people don't seem to complain about the ratio of male-female truck drivers or labourers or waiting staff or <insert something else here> - so why is an office environment different???)
To become briefly political (because I can't think of a better example), it is much the same as the question on Gay Marriage. This is not an argument over equality, but rather an argument on creating a new case. Everyone has a right to marry a member of the opposite sex (provided both parties agree, of course) - that's equality. Allowing people to choose to marry a member of the same sex is also equality providing everyone has the same right to do it (again if they so choose), but there is none of the (implied) inequality at the moment. Equality already exists, people just want new rules, and arguing (in)equality seems to be the most effective way to get a point into the media's attention, and hopefully have the changes implemented.
Gender equality has slightly different issues, because for a long time roles people were allowed to play in society were affected by their gender. This (theoretically at least) has been remedied (at least a little). Now people are (theoretically) hired on their merits not on their gender. Unfortunately (or not, perhaps), because men and women are different, they are seen to be better or worse for different roles - in some cases this may be skill based, while at other times it may be based on persons physique (be it strength for some labouring jobs, or looks for some hospitality jobs). There is nothing I would hate more than being overlooked for a job not because of a lack in skills, but because a company believes balance is equality and hires someone from a particular demographic because they are in that demographic, not because of their abilities and it gives the appearance of equal opportunities (and I would think someone being hired on that basis would be a little offended if they knew that too).
(Note: I don't mean to be anti {or pro} Gay Marriage {or not here, anyways}, but I think the claims of inequality there best illustrate my point that people do not understand what equality actually means)
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I'm not sure if you are arguing against gay marriage, or just the application of the word 'equality.' But if you rewind a few hundred years, everyone had the 'right' to marry someone of their own social class, of their own race. Just because this interpretation is 'equal' does not necessarily mean that it is the most ethical or just.
I can see where you are coming from, but I would argue that the love between two human beings is equal, regardless of age, gender, race, IQ, or any other metric we care to measure them by. Realistically, we recognize that the interests of the majority will always infringe upon the rights of the minority to some degree. However, I do believe that the evolving ethical standards of our society will come to recognize the injustice of the current demarcation.
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I can speak for one of them. I didn't say I was offended. I said horrified. My initial reaction when the page loaded this morning with a story title of "Beaten Into Submission" and that photo next to that title was, "Holy crap! How is that going to be funny after I read the story?". Not, "That looks hilarious!". Yes, it is pretty clearly make-up. That doesn't make it funny, it just keeps it from being patently offensive. When I see people battered and bruised in a movie, especially in a "serious" (non-comedy) film, I don't usually think, "You know, that vignette is comedy gold!" Unless, of course, it's done comedically...and even then it's often cringe inducing more than a laugh riot. Yes, I've spent plenty enough time on /b to know that some people actually do get their jollies from seeing photos of people hurt, maimed, and killed, but they are generally called sick bastards...or btards. My point, though, wasn't to take anyone to task for using the photo, but pointing out that it's an incongruous choice. The photos usually add to the humor a bit, or at least are neutral. This one distracted a bit from the humor. It's not my site, Alex is free to use Whatever photo he wants, but in my opinion, this photo didn't help him advance his goal.
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The inequality people talk about is between two groups of people: people who want to marry people of the opposite sex and people who want to marry people of the same sex.
Surely you don't believe those two groups are equal?
In previous centuries only white men were allowed to own property.
Presumably you feel that the state made something (being born a man and owning property) available to all who wanted it and that was equality.
It's just that the group of people who wanted a special case added to the law (being born a woman and owning property) weren't catered for.
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I think this situation could have been avoided entirely with some simple, more direct rephrasing:
"The code between us and Tammie Burns needs to be seriously reconsidered. In addition, it may be time to beat Tammie Burns into submission."
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Well that's because women communicate on a relationship/self expression and men on the information/command level. So the first thing she associates with words is related to her or females in general. Hence the whole misunderstandings. "there is a red light ahead" information - there is red light ahead relationship - you're a lousy driver, dont miss it again self expression - hey look i see a red light! command - slow down!
same line different meanings :)
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Tammie Burns is an ugly hack that will work temporarily.