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This is exactly how our building does it. Otherwise, you'd need a card reader on the inside to get out. Where's the WTF?
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A motion sensor is more convenient however.
FWIW, the company I work for went the other direction. They replaced all the motion sensors used for this purpose with either pushbuttons or pushbars (on doors with a mechanical latch).
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I had a desk (no cubicle) right next to an exit door. Due to "fire codes", they weren't allowed to install a motion detector, they had to install a "big red button" to exit (the contractor was an idiot). The building had bad AC balance, so there was always positive pressure inside. Every time someone exited, the door wouldn't close and the air whistled. It was JUST far enough away I couldn't lean over my desk to grab the handle and close it.
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Evidently Java doesn't require one to use source or follow compile rules?
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I thought everyone knew about spam being deliberately obvious now, to filter out anyone sentient and maximise return per reply (as mentioned above).
Regarding "must be under 30", that's a lawsuit, Shirley?
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Regarding the last one, it's not just the tasting, or the age discrimination. Why exactly would you require consultants not to have any earlier Visa? They're essentially saying you must not be known by the US government ("yet", anyway). Doesn't that sound suspicious?
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This is all happening inside your head, I presume?
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Captcha: suscipit. I suscipit that building does not meet code.
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Reading about code, on the internnet; I'm wonder if english there second language and if other second language e.g. programming libary are also not so well laernt, always and explicity.
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It explicitly says "onsite in the US". And you think there aren't people named Raj in the US?
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Captcha iusto. Iusto be a programmer, now I am a 'developer'.
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Speak for yourself. We have motion detectors and buttons here. The buttons are because the motion detectors only trigger a second or two after you've arrived at the door and tried to open it. It's much, MUCH easier to simply whack the big, friendly, arcade-style button on the way by.
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FWIW, most of the buttons they installed here are recessed, requiring a careful press with a single finger. The one that isn't is cheaply made and flaky, so care has to be taken to press it in the center (or at least evenly on all four corners) so it doesn't bind. "Simply whacking" any of the buttons is out of the question.
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Indeed. I somehow assumed that they were requiring the applicant to be a foreigner. I hope your hypothesis is correct, as my scenario about foreign applicants is a real WTF.
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Motion sensors on the inside of the doors is not a WTF nor the result of poor planning or cluelessness on the part of management. Rather, they are a requirement of the National Fire Protection Association Life Safety Code (NFPA 101) for any doors with magnetic locks. The Code also requires that there be a manual door override as well.
Thanks for helping me study for my CISSP exam.
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In Soviet Russia, applicant expires job posting.
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TRWTF, then. Card reader on the outside, push bar on the inside. What more do you need?
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And the "SPAM" one is not a WTF. As others noted, many spam filters will label suspected spam with such things, and pass it along. (Just in case it's a false positive.) Then the recipient can decide what to do with it. (For example, delete anything labeled as such.)
Now, for "lazy spammer", I've seen plenty of spam with things such as:
(Yes, it would still have replacement variables, which weren't replaced.)
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Likely a fire marshal issue. You can't have a door be permanently shut in a work/public environment.
So they had to install the motion detector. As a fail-safe, if the power fails it defaults to unlocked. So if you want to break in, cut the power supply. However a lot of these have backup power.
This is of course the cheap way of doing security.
The ideal way is to have the doors open, and use a pass-gate monitored by security-detail. If someone jumps the gate you know something's wrong.
If someone slips in because of a motion-detector fault, you have no idea.
My company has the same magnet+motion-detector, and I don't get why it's considered valid security. Most people let other people in all the time, because we all know each-other, and if you're at the backdoor you're likely a co-worker. Worse yet, the front door is not secure. There is a clerk at the front door, but if you just walk in like you belong, no one will stop you, because the Employee IDs we have are a big pain, and no one wears them anymore.
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That's how my University's email server handles detected spam too; it appends SPAM to the subject but otherwise leaves it untouched. I assume Waterloo is doing the same. Is the wtf that the submitter's client didn't then catch it, or is the submitter unaware of the feature because they rarely get (detected) spam from that account?
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Well, I couldn't find a copy of the document with 30 seconds of searching, but:
You are telling us that it is a REQUIREMENT that every door with a magnetic lock must have motion sensors so that it automatically opens any time someone comes within 3 feet? That it is against the rules to simply have a button or a crash bar to open the door? If true:
(a) That's insane. It creates a huge security risk. As an earlier poster said, it means that all a criminal has to do is wait outside the door until someone walks by and it opens. Then he casually enters the building. As long as he doesn't act obviously suspicious, I strongly suspect that 90% of the time no one would challenge him. After all, 90% of the time it's going to be someone who has a valid key card and just happenned to be coming in as you walked past the door.
(b) There are many, many violators in the U.S. I've been in many buildings that have magnetic locks on the door, and very few automatically opened as you approached.
Not to say that there aren't stupid regulations. It's possible.
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I used to work at a government office that had electronic locks on all the doors. One day the security folks decided that only a few select employees should be authorized to enter the non-public areas of the building outside of normal working hours. I guess the idea was that they were afraid that employees might sneak in at night or over the weekend and rob the place or something.
Okay, they weren't quite so stupid as to stop people from opening the doors from the inside, so you could get out.
Except ... except that the bathrooms were considered public areas, but the bathrooms near my area were on a hallway that connected two non-public areas. So if you were on that hallway after 5:00, you couldn't get out at either end, because that would have you going from a public area to a non-public area.
Of course they implemented this new rule on a Friday. And of course they didn't bother to tell anyone. So one of my co-workers went to the ladies room a few minutes before 5:00 on Friday afternoon, came out perhaps 10 minutes after 5, and ... her key card wouldn't open the door. She was locked in. For the weekend.
Fortunately I hadn't left yet and I heard her banging on the door.
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I'm not sure what the problem is with the motion detectors. I know the system in question.
This is common in systems where the door is at the end of a hallway and the door is magnetically locked (as opposed to an electromechanical lock.)
When the doors are in an open area, then they will be outfitted with capacitive sensors on the door handle; you just touch it with an ungloved hand or body part, and the magnetic lock releases. It's interesting watching when people try to push the door open while carrying things; they try the usual "bump the open bar with the butt" and nothing happens. I reach over from my desk and lightly touch the bar, and the door releases for them.
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Politicians love regulations because it expands their power base, lets them "create jobs"* and best of all provides a mechanism whereby the peasants and corporate lords alike can come crawling forward, cash in hand, begging for an indulgence whereby they won't have to comply. Nowhere in this infrastructure is there an incentive for the regulations to be smart. In fact the dumber they are the more exceptions people will be forced to request.
Consider: there were lots of regulators monitoring the banks. But instead of making rules that said "you have to be careful with people's money" they said "you must issue X% of your loans to low income people who will never be able to pay them back." All because politicians wanted to look like they were "doing something" about the "home ownership problem".
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Jay, the doors don't open by themselves; they just unlock. Yes, you could peer through the window and wait for someone to walk by, but the sensors are supposed to be placed so that this won't happen; if the door is in a frequently trafficked area, there are other ways to unlock it (such as a touch-bar.)
And yes, this IS a security hole; you can easily follow someone in the door at facilities that use this kind of entry system, so employees are trained to not allow entry to anyone not wearing a badge.
This system is also really designed to prevent unauthorized after-hours access; if daytime security is a huge concern, the organization will use solenoid locks, which can be opened from the inside with regular door handles.
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RE burnt tongue:
Requiring a new hire to be under 30 is illegal in the U.S. But the talk of of Visa's and wanting someone to work "onsite in US" may mean that this ad is addressed to people in some other country. (Perhaps India from the name Raj, though there are people of Indian ancestry all over the world.) I'm no lawyer, but I would think that if you hire someone in another country and then send him to the U.S., U.S. law would not apply to how he was hired, because you didn't hire him in the U.S. As presumably different countries have laws that differ in many ways, it would be wildly impractical for the U.S. to say that no one can enter the country on a business visa if his hiring was not conducted in conformance with all US laws. It's likely that we wouldn't admit anyone under such a rule.
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These systems are fail-open. Power loss releases the locks, since there's no power holding them closed.
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Whether they open or just unlock, the security hole is the same. Someone could wait outside the door and listen for the click of the unlock, then casually open the door and step in. Magnetic doors that I've used make a click or thunking noise when they are unlocked that is easily heard from either side of the door. Of course if there's a window in the door, it makes it all that much easier.
I suppose if a door was at the end of a hall so that no one would have any reason to walk that way unless they were headed out, this would create no security issues that wouldn't exist no matter how the door was unlocked. But if it's a door that people walk past routinely when they are NOT planning to leave the building, it creates this security hole.
To say that employees are "trained to not allow entry to anyone not wearing a badge" ... yeah, I'm sure they are. I've worked in plenty of such buildings. And few employees really follow such rules. I've seen plenty of times where someone arrives at work in the morning, uses his key card to open the door, and then several people follow him in. Very, very rarely does anyone check that all these people have badges, much less that their badges give them access to this particular building or part of the building.
So here's the scenario we're talking about: Someone is walking down the hall past an outside door. He comes within range of the sensor, and so the door unlocks. An unauthorized person waiting outside for exactly this event opens the door and enters. Is the person who was walking down the hall really going to, (a) notice that someone just entered the building behind him, and (b) stop, turn around, and challenge that person to present an ID? I really, really doubt it.
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Last place I worked the automatic motion-sensor-operated doors to get into the building conked out one time. Took them fucking donkeys'-years to get someone to come and mend the fuckers. Then when they eventually did get someone, it took him three days of buggering about with them and in the end he never did fix them. During the course of this I had cause to walk past where his van was parked. The fucking tax disc was out of date.
Just another example of: you take the cheapskate route, you get shit. Pay top dollar, get good service, potential customers see how slick your operation is, in comes the money. Works every time, motherfuckers.
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The real WTF here is women, spending half their fucking life in the fucking bathroom.
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What - it's the mods that choose the featured comments? I always thought it was a completely randomised selection process..
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I think that's true of all advertizing.
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Wait until they find out that if they hit the fire alarm, the doors will automatically open.
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First glance, I read that as "Unit Tasing" ....
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You can't actually read NFPA 101 online unless you register on the NFPA website (a pain). I found a summary here: http://www.lilocksmith.com/laws_codes/nfpa101.htm
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All spammers fake sender addresses, so when you bounce spam, you're actually spamming someone else. In fact, spam bounces make up a significant fraction of all spam I see (because my filters work much better on real spam than on bounces).
So either reject incoming spam straight away (which requires your filters to be tied into your MTA) or delete it or deliver it. But DO NOT BOUNCE SPAM!
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Warning to all Java developers:
Don't drop the soap in front of this guy (unless of course you're into that sort of thing).