• uns (unregistered)

    Don't mention the scrollbar! I mentioned it once, but i think I got away with it!

  • Darkstar (unregistered)

    (Off topic.)

    Am I the only one who found an easter egg on thedailywtf.com? I got rainbows and pink ponies all over the screen.

  • ntgal (need to get a life) (unregistered) in reply to uns
    uns:
    Don't mention the scrollbar! I mentioned it once, but i *think* I got away with it!
    +1 for the Fawlty Towers reference!
  • chris (unregistered) in reply to ntgal (need to get a life)
    ntgal (need to get a life):
    uns:
    Don't mention the scrollbar! I mentioned it once, but i *think* I got away with it!
    +1 for the Fawlty Towers reference!
    ¿Que?
  • TheReal(TM) Anonymous (unregistered) in reply to chris
    chris:
    ntgal (need to get a life):
    uns:
    Don't mention the scrollbar! I mentioned it once, but i *think* I got away with it!
    +1 for the Fawlty Towers reference!
    ¿Que?

    "Don't mention the war, I mentioned it once, but I think i got away with it."

    ...

    "If you could only stop mentioning the war" - "We didn't start it" - "Yes, you did. You invaded Poland!"

  • Anders (unregistered) in reply to Mark

    I've added w3schools and expertsexchange to my Google block list. My life got so much better...

  • Anders (unregistered) in reply to TheReal(TM) Anonymous

    -1 for not understanding the second Fawlty Towers reference

  • Apeiron (unregistered) in reply to MeToo
    MeToo:
    Me Too!!

    One of us needs to do the world a favor and cap you like Old Yeller. That comment is just about as useless as JPEGs to Helen Keller. And damn you for getting that song stuck in my head. Damn you!

    Actually on topic.. <insert obligatory "scroll to bottom" comment>. I've got nothing.

  • Ollie (unregistered) in reply to Mark

    Visit this URL and you can tell Google not to show you the offending rubbish site.

    http://www.google.com/reviews/t?hl=en

    (You need to be logged in to Google for this to work. Also, if you tell them why you're blocking it they claim it will help with pagerank.)

    Don't forget, it's http://www.experts-exchange.com/ with a hyphen.

  • Jeremy Friesner (unregistered) in reply to Mark

    I'm surprised Experts Exchange is still in business. Do they do anything that StackExchange (etc) don't already do better, and for free?

  • Therocketsurgeon (unregistered)

    Am I missing something, or have the answers for all Experts Exchange questions always always just been found by scrolling down a bit further past the ads?? Obscured section. scroll. scroll. scroll. unobscured section.

  • Therocketsurgeon (unregistered) in reply to Therocketsurgeon
    Therocketsurgeon:
    Am I missing something, or have the answers for all Experts Exchange questions always always just been found by scrolling down a bit further past the ads?? Obscured section. scroll. scroll. scroll. unobscured section.
    oops. *ahem*
  • Neil (unregistered)

    I've been scrolling down this page for ages but I still don't know how to find the answer to a question on ExpertSexChange.

  • jay (unregistered) in reply to Ken
    Ken:
    kkdTup:
    If you scroll to the bottom of the exchange site, youll see the answers for free... though it only works when coming from google.
    I don't know how to use scroll bars, you insensitive clod!

    I had a son who didn't know how to use scroll bars. Believe me, it was no laughing matter.

  • renewest (unregistered) in reply to renewest
    renewest:
    Ten years ago, the site was okay. It had good answers and used a point system, whereby you could get so many answers per month for free. Then they went to all pay. Now I don't know why they bother.

    Hope Stackoverflow doesn't make the same mistake.

    I actually hope that they do. Then I'll start a site, and take over that market. (Then I'll fuck it up one day when I feel that I'm not making enough through Google ads.)

  • (cs) in reply to renewest

    What is necessity of stackoverflow, when site like forums already present in market?

  • Francois Botha (unregistered) in reply to Mark

    That would be censorship.

    A better solution is the Personal Blocklist extension: https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/personal-blocklist-by-goo/nolijncfnkgaikbjbdaogikpmpbdcdef

  • Kris (unregistered)

    You know that all the answers on expertexchange are available for free if you scroll all the way down, right? Either that, or just use stackoverflow like a sane person.

  • Chris Targett (unregistered)

    That 2nd WTF snippet is standard Omniture analytics tracking code.

    And yes, implementing it is WTF's all round.

  • JJ (unregistered) in reply to Norman Diamond
    Norman Diamond:
    Quina:
    Take the URL for the page that your answer is at the bottom of, copy it into a fresh tab (i.e. with no Referer header) and viola! No more answer!
    Cello! You're right!
    All your bass are belong to us!

    Meanwhile I viewed source and looked for comments on the comments, but there weren't any. Deception! But that's OK, no one reads the comments anyway.

    Let's keep this discussion civil, please, lest someone resort to violins.

  • (cs) in reply to JJ
    JJ:
    Norman Diamond:
    Quina:
    Take the URL for the page that your answer is at the bottom of, copy it into a fresh tab (i.e. with no Referer header) and viola! No more answer!
    Cello! You're right!
    All your bass are belong to us!

    Meanwhile I viewed source and looked for comments on the comments, but there weren't any. Deception! But that's OK, no one reads the comments anyway.

    Let's keep this discussion civil, please, lest someone resort to violins.

    comments on comments....

    I'm not sure if I understand your comment, if it was directed at my comment, but my comment was commenting on the html comments (<!--- some funny sh*t --->) that Remy puts in the actual article, not the comments section of the article and not comments about other comments about the actual article and not html comments embedded within the comments section of the article.

    I hope this comment clears up any confusion related to my earlier comment, which I've reproduced here (below) for reference, since I'm uncertain that the comment that I'm commenting on was in reference to my earlier comment or someone else's comment.

    1st off: since no one commented on the comments... <!-- I like to do it by projecting my screen onto my face, using too much hair product, and playing techno in the background, like in the movies. -->

    If hacking were anything like it is in the movies there's be an effing roller-coaster

    anyone care to comment?

  • (cs)

    it might have changed since I last checked, but experts exchange used to give the uncensored answer for free toward the bottom of the page, below the censored answers.

  • JJ (unregistered) in reply to pakrat
    pakrat:
    JJ:
    Norman Diamond:
    Quina:
    Take the URL for the page that your answer is at the bottom of, copy it into a fresh tab (i.e. with no Referer header) and viola! No more answer!
    Cello! You're right!
    All your bass are belong to us!

    Meanwhile I viewed source and looked for comments on the comments, but there weren't any. Deception! But that's OK, no one reads the comments anyway.

    Let's keep this discussion civil, please, lest someone resort to violins.

    comments on comments....

    I'm not sure if I understand your comment, if it was directed at my comment, but my comment was commenting on the html comments (<!--- some funny sh*t --->) that Remy puts in the actual article, not the comments section of the article and not comments about other comments about the actual article and not html comments embedded within the comments section of the article.

    I hope this comment clears up any confusion related to my earlier comment, which I've reproduced here (below) for reference, since I'm uncertain that the comment that I'm commenting on was in reference to my earlier comment or someone else's comment.

    1st off: since no one commented on the comments... <!-- I like to do it by projecting my screen onto my face, using too much hair product, and playing techno in the background, like in the movies. -->

    If hacking were anything like it is in the movies there's be an effing roller-coaster

    anyone care to comment?

    We were remarking* on the fact that you wrote "viola," which is a musical instrument in the strings family, instead of "voila," which is the word you really wanted.

    *I'm sorry, commenting.

  • JJ (unregistered)

    (And when I say "you," I mean "assuming you were the one who made the innermost quote," the author of which has been lost at some point....)

  • cornasdf (unregistered) in reply to Mark

    everybody does know that if you scroll to the bottom of the expertsexchange page, the answers are all there, right?

  • cornasdf (unregistered)

    lame, for some reason i only saw one comment. after I posted, I see 3 pages of people pointing out the same thing I was, sorry about that.

  • Mike (unregistered)

    Should've gone to Stack Overflow.

  • Omnomnom (unregistered)

    If they're showing different things to Google than the non-paying public, the obvious answer would be to pretend to be Google...

    I believe this would be no less moral than misleading search engines into thinking your site is more relevant than it is.

    Who actually posts answers to ExpertSexchange anyway?

  • meredrica (unregistered) in reply to Mark

    you can block experts exchange from your google queries yourself. i did that a year ago and finally google querys make sense again (but i usually start with duckduckgo now)

  • (cs) in reply to Mark
    Mark:
    Google simply shouldn't index Experts Exchange.

    Along with Yahoo "No-Answers", and about another billion web pages on the net that contain no useful information whatsoever.

  • Hugo S-toNge (unregistered)

    Welcome to Omniture.

  • X spurt and Y spurt (unregistered)

    If Peter gets an expert sexchange we can blame Vajayjay.

  • Chris (unregistered)

    That looks like pretty standard boilerplate code for Omniture tracking, though TRWTF is the way Omniture's code base works.

  • Jochem (unregistered)

    TRWTF is their old login / payment system.

    1. You need to pay to see this 'answer'
    2. Register for account
    3. Once you get to the part where you have to enter credit card details, close your browser
    4. Try to login using your newly created account
    5. Hit the "I lost my password link" and follow procedure
    6. Good to go, no credit card needed
  • julio (unregistered)

    Just for the chronicle, I have subscribed to EE at the very inception (initially it was such a cool idea) and have contributed answers for around 2 years. There was no sign it would go paid, but then it progressively did. Now I am supposed to pay to see most of my own answers! Who cares, the level has gone down too, of course, but I think it is worth it to testify, once more, that they do suck badly.

  • (cs)
    Eric:
    You can also just scroll down to the bottom of the page, you'll find the "answer" below all their ads.
    That's one. The first and original, thus legit. Down we go.
    Shyru:
    Lol, it's funny that there are still people that don't know that answers on expert exchange are viewable by everyone without paying. - Just scroll way to the bottom of the page to find the answer. This is also why GoogleBot finds the answers. :-)
    Funny indeed. Just you wait.
    corroded:
    Have people really not realised that if you scroll the entire way to the bottom on ExpertSexchange you get the answers... just come in via Google. It's literally right there. I mean, it's buried after about sixteen scrolls on bullshit you don't care about... but it is there.
    mkay...
    Eggbox:
    Just go to the end of the page and the answer is shown, otherwise the page couldn't be indexed by google.
    Scoop.
    Imran:
    I think if you come via google and scroll way down, you can see the answer. I've always been able to
    Half a sentence = Half a brain.
    Bob:
    Err, as far as I'm aware, expert sex change has always listed the answer if you enter the site via Google. You just have to scroll a loooooong way down and ignore all the "look this stuff is hidden so stop scrolling now" stuff.
    ...
    monkeyPushButton:
    Shyru:
    Lol, it's funny that there are still people that don't know that answers on expert exchange are viewable by everyone without paying. - Just scroll way to the bottom of the page to find the answer. This is also why GoogleBot finds the answers. :-)
    corroded:
    Have people really not realised that if you scroll the entire way to the bottom on ExpertSexchange you get the answers... just come in via Google. It's literally right there. I mean, it's buried after about sixteen scrolls on bullshit you don't care about... but it is there.
    Eggbox:
    Just go to the end of the page and the answer is shown, otherwise the page couldn't be indexed by google.
    As has been stated, this only works from Google (well, maybe a few others) and it hasn't always been that way.
    I have a predecessor. Far less tedious, however.
    C-Octothorpe:
    monkeyPushButton:
    Shyru:
    Lol, it's funny that there are still people that don't know that answers on expert exchange are viewable by everyone without paying. - Just scroll way to the bottom of the page to find the answer. This is also why GoogleBot finds the answers. :-)
    corroded:
    Have people really not realised that if you scroll the entire way to the bottom on ExpertSexchange you get the answers... just come in via Google. It's literally right there. I mean, it's buried after about sixteen scrolls on bullshit you don't care about... but it is there.
    Eggbox:
    Just go to the end of the page and the answer is shown, otherwise the page couldn't be indexed by google.
    As has been stated, this only works from Google (well, maybe a few others) and it hasn't always been that way.
    Has anyone mentioned yet that the answer is there way at the bottom of the page? And that this only works if google is the referer?

    Just want to make sure we have our bases covered...

    They fucking are.
    Champs:
    I don't recommend using the site, either, but the answer IS there if you scroll well past the nag.
    You must be kidding ?
    Dusseldorf:
    Usually if you scroll all the way to the bottom of the page, the answer will be hidden amongst all the junk there.
    For true ?
    Dave:
    Seriously you guys don't even know that you can just scroll down past the ads and other junk and the answer is right there on the page.

    May need to come in via Google for it to work.

    Sarcasms start to appear... meme not far.
    KattMan:
    Hey guess what guys, if you scroll to the bottom to read the answer you get the bonus of reading all their junk too! Why wouldn't you visit for that, it's like icing on the ex-spurt, which I think might be why they needed the sex change.

    Ditto.
    Damien:
    Just for the record. The answers are visible :) Just scroll down passed all the "become a member now" nonsense to the bottom of the page. The answer is right there, visible in plain sight.
    JUST FOR THE RECORD ? I want you to die horribly. Preferably yesterday.
    Kate:
    If you scroll to the bottom, the answers are free.
    She does it too but...
    Kate:
    Sorry, only saw one comment when I commented. Post-posting I saw there were other, similar comments. :x
    ...realises it. Rare breed.
    Publius:
    Anyone care to wager how much longer until the next "scroll to the bottom" post appears? I'm going to put $100 on 17 minutes. Who wants a piece of that action?
    Going meta.
    kkdTup:
    If you scroll to the bottom of the exchange site, youll see the answers for free... though it only works when coming from google.
    ...
    Ben:
    If you just scroll ALL THE WAY down to the bototm of an experts exchange window you can see the answers...
    Just you die somehow.
    David:
    But on embedded machines, lacking a filesystem, I find it easiest to scroll all the way to the bottom, where the answer can be viewed for free.
    Memes crossing. Thread sanity lost forever.
    Fred:
    I view the answers all the time without an account. All you have to do is scroll to the bottom of the page and the answers will be under the adds. An important condidtion is that I was using google to get to expertexchange.

    One of my Profs told me about this, don't remember why it works (google cached page?).

    You are such a genius. READ THE GODDAM COMMENTS BEFORE POSTING. and yes I'm perfectly cool about that. Not upset.
    JoeNotCharles:
    Just scroll down to the very bottom, past all the ads. The answers are in the clear there. They just rely on people assuming the page is over when the ads begin and a "subscribe to see the answer" popup obscures part of it, and not actually scrolling any further.
    You don't say.
    John:
    I'll bet $10 all of you are too dumb to realise that you could just scroll right down to the bottom to work out how much a sex-change costs....
    You don't have enough money for what you owe.
    flabdablet:
    Watching all these expertsexchange users scroll to the bottom without reading anything in between so they can tell us all how clever it is to scroll to the bottom without reading anything in between is making me laugh.
    Really ?
    Apeiron:
    Actually on topic.. <insert obligatory "scroll to bottom" comment>. I've got nothing.
    Generic meta.
    Therocketsurgeon:
    Am I missing something, or have the answers for all Experts Exchange questions always always just been found by scrolling down a bit further past the ads?? Obscured section. scroll. scroll. scroll. unobscured section.
    You're some kind of heroic pionner.
    Kris:
    You know that all the answers on expertexchange are available for free if you scroll all the way down, right? Either that, or just use stackoverflow like a sane person.
    Arsenic, anyone ?
    cornasdf:
    everybody does know that if you scroll to the bottom of the expertsexchange page, the answers are all there, right?
    RITE.
    cornasdf:
    lame, for some reason i only saw one comment. after I posted, I see 3 pages of people pointing out the same thing I was, sorry about that.
    He did apologize ! Humanity is maybe not doomed !

  • Dann of Thursday (unregistered) in reply to toshir0
    toshir0:
    Eric:
    You can also just scroll down to the bottom of the page, you'll find the "answer" below all their ads.
    That's one. The first and original, thus legit. Down we go.
    Shyru:
    Lol, it's funny that there are still people that don't know that answers on expert exchange are viewable by everyone without paying. - Just scroll way to the bottom of the page to find the answer. This is also why GoogleBot finds the answers. :-)
    Funny indeed. Just you wait.
    corroded:
    Have people really not realised that if you scroll the entire way to the bottom on ExpertSexchange you get the answers... just come in via Google. It's literally right there. I mean, it's buried after about sixteen scrolls on bullshit you don't care about... but it is there.
    mkay...
    Eggbox:
    Just go to the end of the page and the answer is shown, otherwise the page couldn't be indexed by google.
    Scoop.
    Imran:
    I think if you come via google and scroll way down, you can see the answer. I've always been able to
    Half a sentence = Half a brain.
    Bob:
    Err, as far as I'm aware, expert sex change has always listed the answer if you enter the site via Google. You just have to scroll a loooooong way down and ignore all the "look this stuff is hidden so stop scrolling now" stuff.
    ...
    monkeyPushButton:
    Shyru:
    Lol, it's funny that there are still people that don't know that answers on expert exchange are viewable by everyone without paying. - Just scroll way to the bottom of the page to find the answer. This is also why GoogleBot finds the answers. :-)
    corroded:
    Have people really not realised that if you scroll the entire way to the bottom on ExpertSexchange you get the answers... just come in via Google. It's literally right there. I mean, it's buried after about sixteen scrolls on bullshit you don't care about... but it is there.
    Eggbox:
    Just go to the end of the page and the answer is shown, otherwise the page couldn't be indexed by google.
    As has been stated, this only works from Google (well, maybe a few others) and it hasn't always been that way.
    I have a predecessor. Far less tedious, however.
    C-Octothorpe:
    monkeyPushButton:
    Shyru:
    Lol, it's funny that there are still people that don't know that answers on expert exchange are viewable by everyone without paying. - Just scroll way to the bottom of the page to find the answer. This is also why GoogleBot finds the answers. :-)
    corroded:
    Have people really not realised that if you scroll the entire way to the bottom on ExpertSexchange you get the answers... just come in via Google. It's literally right there. I mean, it's buried after about sixteen scrolls on bullshit you don't care about... but it is there.
    Eggbox:
    Just go to the end of the page and the answer is shown, otherwise the page couldn't be indexed by google.
    As has been stated, this only works from Google (well, maybe a few others) and it hasn't always been that way.
    Has anyone mentioned yet that the answer is there way at the bottom of the page? And that this only works if google is the referer?

    Just want to make sure we have our bases covered...

    They fucking are.
    Champs:
    I don't recommend using the site, either, but the answer IS there if you scroll well past the nag.
    You must be kidding ?
    Dusseldorf:
    Usually if you scroll all the way to the bottom of the page, the answer will be hidden amongst all the junk there.
    For true ?
    Dave:
    Seriously you guys don't even know that you can just scroll down past the ads and other junk and the answer is right there on the page.

    May need to come in via Google for it to work.

    Sarcasms start to appear... meme not far.
    KattMan:
    Hey guess what guys, if you scroll to the bottom to read the answer you get the bonus of reading all their junk too! Why wouldn't you visit for that, it's like icing on the ex-spurt, which I think might be why they needed the sex change.

    Ditto.
    Damien:
    Just for the record. The answers are visible :) Just scroll down passed all the "become a member now" nonsense to the bottom of the page. The answer is right there, visible in plain sight.
    JUST FOR THE RECORD ? I want you to die horribly. Preferably yesterday.
    Kate:
    If you scroll to the bottom, the answers are free.
    She does it too but...
    Kate:
    Sorry, only saw one comment when I commented. Post-posting I saw there were other, similar comments. :x
    ...realises it. Rare breed.
    Publius:
    Anyone care to wager how much longer until the next "scroll to the bottom" post appears? I'm going to put $100 on 17 minutes. Who wants a piece of that action?
    Going meta.
    kkdTup:
    If you scroll to the bottom of the exchange site, youll see the answers for free... though it only works when coming from google.
    ...
    Ben:
    If you just scroll ALL THE WAY down to the bototm of an experts exchange window you can see the answers...
    Just you die somehow.
    David:
    But on embedded machines, lacking a filesystem, I find it easiest to scroll all the way to the bottom, where the answer can be viewed for free.
    Memes crossing. Thread sanity lost forever.
    Fred:
    I view the answers all the time without an account. All you have to do is scroll to the bottom of the page and the answers will be under the adds. An important condidtion is that I was using google to get to expertexchange.

    One of my Profs told me about this, don't remember why it works (google cached page?).

    You are such a genius. READ THE GODDAM COMMENTS BEFORE POSTING. and yes I'm perfectly cool about that. Not upset.
    JoeNotCharles:
    Just scroll down to the very bottom, past all the ads. The answers are in the clear there. They just rely on people assuming the page is over when the ads begin and a "subscribe to see the answer" popup obscures part of it, and not actually scrolling any further.
    You don't say.
    John:
    I'll bet $10 all of you are too dumb to realise that you could just scroll right down to the bottom to work out how much a sex-change costs....
    You don't have enough money for what you owe.
    flabdablet:
    Watching all these expertsexchange users scroll to the bottom without reading anything in between so they can tell us all how clever it is to scroll to the bottom without reading anything in between is making me laugh.
    Really ?
    Apeiron:
    Actually on topic.. <insert obligatory "scroll to bottom" comment>. I've got nothing.
    Generic meta.
    Therocketsurgeon:
    Am I missing something, or have the answers for all Experts Exchange questions always always just been found by scrolling down a bit further past the ads?? Obscured section. scroll. scroll. scroll. unobscured section.
    You're some kind of heroic pionner.
    Kris:
    You know that all the answers on expertexchange are available for free if you scroll all the way down, right? Either that, or just use stackoverflow like a sane person.
    Arsenic, anyone ?
    cornasdf:
    everybody does know that if you scroll to the bottom of the expertsexchange page, the answers are all there, right?
    RITE.
    cornasdf:
    lame, for some reason i only saw one comment. after I posted, I see 3 pages of people pointing out the same thing I was, sorry about that.
    He did apologize ! Humanity is maybe not doomed !

    Too long, didn't read.

    I'm pretty sure that if you scroll down to the end of the page on EE you'll see the answer for free. It only works if you're coming from Google, though.

    Kind of surprised nobody else pointed that out yet.

  • (cs) in reply to Dann of Thursday
    Dann of Thursday:
    Too long, didn't read.

    I'm pretty sure that if you scroll down to the end of the page on EE you'll see the answer for free. It only works if you're coming from Google, though.

    Kind of surprised nobody else pointed that out yet.

    Recursive recursion is self-recursing itself.

  • Bobbert (unregistered)

    The problem is, you thought you were going to Experts Exchange. The reality is, that website is Expert Sexchange.

    That's why you have to pay to see answers, and can never find useful IT related information.

  • EE User (unregistered)

    <<I'm surprised Experts Exchange is still in business. Do they do anything that StackExchange (etc) don't already do better, and for free? >>

    SO is free to use only because they have VC money supporting the site. When it runs out...someone will need to pay to keep the lights on (but maybe they'll sucker some more investors).

    As far as EE, don't think any of you that are whining about it have actually visted it; you get free membership by answering a couple of questions a month.

    I've been using the site for over 13 years and have never paid a dime. But if your not willing to play, then you do pay.

    As for the paywall, it's one of the reasons they are still in business unlike so many other sites. Plus it keeps all the riff-raff out.

  • Brutus Lyon (unregistered) in reply to Mark

    Typical ignorant reaction from a troll who has never used the site.

  • Monteverde (unregistered) in reply to Brutus Lyon
    Brutus Lyon:
    Typical ignorant reaction from a troll who has never used the site.

    Yeah, but we'll forgive you this once, now go find the link to the unicorns, rainbows and ponies.

  • FristName LastName (unregistered)

    @toshir0 @Dann of Thursday You, gentlemen, have won the Internet for the rest of the century.

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