• LurkNoMore (unregistered) in reply to Nagesh
    Nagesh:
    Password problem easily solved by taking screen shot. If print screen is disable, take photo using cell phone and be done with it.

    Aha! Nagesh == SpectateSwamp

  • smilr (unregistered)

    On Mac OS you get § by typing Option-6.

    The character viewer calls it the "section sign".

    Captcha: luptatum, having to do with wolf-potatoes?

  • Marnen Laibow-Koser (unregistered)

    From the article:

    I think this radio button binding scheme should be classified as the 'tar baby' anti-pattern - once you click them they can never be deselected and the user is stuck with them.

    The HTML spec specifically mandates that exactly one radio button in each group be selected. So yeah, in a spec-compliant browser, you can never deselect a radio button group entirely.

  • Brendan (unregistered) in reply to Poncy Leon
    Poncy Leon:
    While programmers jump automatically to thinking of null pointers, in everyday speech "null" is a word for zero (though admittedly, seldom used in arithmetical contexts in English; maybe the CAPTCHA writer was a German speaker?), so "null minus seven" is -7.

    This didn't compile. Try this:

    ---8<---

    while(programmers_jump_automatically_to_thinking_of_null_pointers) { in_everyday_speech_null_is_a_word_for_zero_(though_admittedly_seldom_used_in_arithmetical_contexts_in_English, maybe_the_CAPTCHA_writer_was_a_German_speaker); } so_null_minus_seven = -7;

    ---8<---

  • This is not my real name (unregistered)

    The real WTF is Belgium. On keyboards in Belgium, § is on its own key, under 6, just like ² (with shift giving you ³). Obviously the designer of the first Belgian keyboard thought those would be much more commonly needed than the period, which requires pressing shift, or the @-sign, conveniently accessible as ctrl-alt-é. That's why I switched to a more sensible layout.

  • Tortoise (unregistered) in reply to smilr

    TRWTF is Mac OS.

  • Tortoise (unregistered) in reply to smilr
    smilr:
    On Mac OS you get § by typing Option-6.

    The character viewer calls it the "section sign".

    Captcha: luptatum, having to do with wolf-potatoes?

    GAH, why is there a "reply" button?

    As I was saying, TRWTF is Mac OS.

  • Friedrice The great (unregistered) in reply to scoreKeeper

    [quote user="scoreKeeper"]quote] Homicidal Pacifists would be a cool band name.[/quote]

    for +2, under what musical genre?[/quote]

    Children's music, clearly.

  • Mike (unregistered) in reply to Friedrice The great

    [quote user="Friedrice The great"][quote user="scoreKeeper"]quote] Homicidal Pacifists would be a cool band name.[/quote]

    for +2, under what musical genre?[/quote]

    Children's music, clearly.[/quote]

    Wouldn't it be Homicidal Pacifiers then? :-)

  • Gunslinger (unregistered) in reply to frits
    frits:
    operagost:
    How can you be sympathetic, yet racist? That's like being homicidal, yet pacifist.
    Do you honestly think that having (possibly subconscious) prejudice toward a group precludes you from feeling sympathy for them?

    Subconscious prejudice isn't racism.

  • (cs) in reply to Tortoise
    Tortoise:
    smilr:
    On Mac OS you get § by typing Option-6.

    The character viewer calls it the "section sign".

    Captcha: luptatum, having to do with wolf-potatoes?

    GAH, why is there a "reply" button?

    As I was saying, TRWTF is Mac OS.

    Hoist, meet petard.

  • Spider Flyer (unregistered) in reply to smilr
    smilr:
    On Mac OS you get § by typing Option-6.

    The character viewer calls it the "section sign".

    Captcha: luptatum, having to do with wolf-potatoes?

    Windows: Hold down the 'Alt' key and type '0167' only on the number pad without letting go of the 'Alt' key.

    Also: http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=U%2B00A7

  • (cs) in reply to Duncan
    Duncan:
    Quicksilver:
    This different prices for travelling passports is also present here (Germany).

    The more expensive version has iirc twice the number of pages in it .. so its worthwhile if you are a very frequent traveller.

    So could be sth like that.

    No, the larger passport costs more than that. The prices shown here seem to be for adult or child with the wrong caption.. Here's the complete list which with a choice of 12 different prices is surely worthy of a wtf: http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/TravelAndTransport/Passports/howlongittakesandurgentappplications/DG_174109

    So about that page... What made them decide that your passport was free if you were born before September 2, 1929?

  • Robert (unregistered)

    Two tips here.

    NULL is not spelled literal for computers. It's actually NUL in most cases (One 'L'). Later on you can click on any dialog box and do Ctrl+C and then Ctrl+V it to notepad or the like. It's built into Windows so works anywhere.

  • (cs) in reply to This is not my real name
    This is not my real name:
    The real WTF is Belgium. On keyboards in Belgium, § is on its own key, *under* 6, just like ² (with shift giving you ³). Obviously the designer of the first Belgian keyboard thought those would be much more commonly needed than the period, which requires pressing shift, or the @-sign, conveniently accessible as ctrl-alt-é. That's why I switched to a more sensible layout.

    That's Belgium for you. The country that gave the world Tintin, Rene Magritte and Plastic Bertrand.

  • TuxRug (unregistered)

    As far as the math captcha... did you try NaN?

  • (cs) in reply to Brendan
    Brendan:
    This didn't compile. Try this:

    ---8<---

    while(programmers_jump_automatically_to_thinking_of_null_pointers) { in_everyday_speech_null_is_a_word_for_zero_(though_admittedly_seldom_used_in_arithmetical_contexts_in_English, maybe_the_CAPTCHA_writer_was_a_German_speaker); } so_null_minus_seven = -7;

    ---8<---

    What, --8 and then an unterminated comment? What's that supposed to achieve?
  • Joel Hinz (unregistered) in reply to Eric
    Eric:
    TRWTF is that someone posted his password online. That's a serious security issue!

    (I was the one who sent in the image.)

    Considering that this was a temporary password for an installation on a virtual machine which no longer exists, I'm pretty safe it isn't a security issue whatsoever. Luckily, I'm not a complete idiot.

  • sh0dan (unregistered)

    Clearly the answer is "0xC0000005 Access Violation"

  • What, I have to put something here too? (unregistered)

    I just came to tell you that the Finnish keyboard layout also has a Section key. And there's more, just see it for yourself.

    Also notice, how convenient it is for programmers. And don't get me started with those laptop layouts, where the "<>|" key is left out, and you have to press AltGr+Shift+Fn+Z to get |.

    But you can always count on that the section sign is only one keypress away.

  • (cs) in reply to da Doctah
    da Doctah:
    This is not my real name:
    The real WTF is Belgium. On keyboards in Belgium, § is on its own key, *under* 6, just like ² (with shift giving you ³). Obviously the designer of the first Belgian keyboard thought those would be much more commonly needed than the period, which requires pressing shift, or the @-sign, conveniently accessible as ctrl-alt-é. That's why I switched to a more sensible layout.

    That's Belgium for you. The country that gave the world Tintin, Rene Magritte and Plastic Bertrand.

    And Adolphe Sax. Ça plane pour moi.

  • (cs) in reply to Matt Westwood

    Well, since nobody's going to say it...

    Article:
    "The Israeli bus company 'Dan' recently started putting big screens for commercials on the back of the bus,"
    TRWTF is that the Israeli bus company 'Dan' only has one bus.
  • (cs) in reply to Pim
    Pim:
    Well, since nobody's going to say it...
    Article:
    "The Israeli bus company 'Dan' recently started putting big screens for commercials on the back of the bus,"
    TRWTF is that the Israeli bus company 'Dan' only has one bus.

    No, TRWTF is that when they upgraded to Vista, they had to replace all of their drivers (see here http://www.dan.co.il/template/default.asp?textSearch=&catid=1&pageId=207)

  • onedaywhen (unregistered)

    In three-values logic (e.g. SQL), null minus seven is UNKNOWN. Null is a data value, whereas the correct answer UNKNOWN is a logical value.

  • (cs) in reply to Robert
    Robert:
    Two tips here.

    NULL is not spelled literal for computers. It's actually NUL in most cases (One 'L'). Later on you can click on any dialog box and do Ctrl+C and then Ctrl+V it to notepad or the like. It's built into Windows so works anywhere.

    That looks more like one egregious mistake and one tip that we've had a dozen times already to me.
  • ZigZagJoe (unregistered)

    Little known fact: if it's a dialog using the windows messagebox API, you can copy the contents by clicking on the dialog, and pressing CTRL+C. Windows will bong at you, but you should have it (as text) on your clipboard now.

  • Nochex (unregistered) in reply to The poop of DOOM

    Undefined works.

    Null - 7 = undefined

  • Nochex (unregistered) in reply to derpiderp
    derpiderp:
    I think the thing you guys don't get about the "null minus seven" is that the numbers are obviously in text format, so there must be a conversion for that somewhere. Perhaps the programmer's native toungue isn't english, and therefore parsed 0 to "null" (which is another word for zero, look it up), instead of zero.

    Good catch, but it's probably an array isn't it. So actually the null is any number that was supposed to be in the array but wasn't. So just try all numbers from -7 upwards.

  • (cs) in reply to ZigZagJoe
    ZigZagJoe:
    Little known fact
    Not round here.
  • Martijn (unregistered) in reply to Altourus
    Altourus:
    Anonymous:
    Anonymous:
    Matt:
    trwrtf of the math captcha is trying 0, 7, and null, but not trying -7

    Agreed, although anything other than NULL is plainly wrong.

    Actually it's so obvious you should all be embarassed.

    The right answer is NullReferenceException.

    Having used javascript before, I can pretty much garentee the answer is -7, a quick check to the Chrome console verifies this. Also NaN would have been another attempt of mine.

    If that'd work, evaluating a captcha on the client side would have been the real WTF.

  • YOUR FACE (unregistered) in reply to Gunslinger

    everyone is racist, even white liberals

    The difference is that they try to redirect their racism against poor whites, which they blame for all the social ills so that they can feel themselves morally superior snd over "animalistic" feelings like ethnocentrism which some poor whites (and every nonwhite over the world) still have

    it will only lead to their own demise in the long run, as it happens to any genetic community that embraces anti-nature behaviour that does not promote their own gene, issue is that they will drag poor whites to hell in the process

  • (cs)

    Mhhh, lemme see...

    · trying to annoy people - check. · shouting by using all caps - check. · getting their facts wrong - check. · typos - check.

    Yes. Definitely.

    Warning! Troll alert!

  • Luiz Felipe (unregistered)

    null minus seven this is easy null - 7 = null

  • Luiz Felipe (unregistered) in reply to Mike
    Mike:
    TRWTF is that the Local transport comany used Windows as Operating System for displaying the adverts.

    Solaris, Linux, OpenBDS and all unix-like OS are better tailored to be used on public transportations: when something bad happens on the vehicle a specific error signal could be raised: the aptly named bus error.

    For trams and some undergrounds, expecially if paintend dark red there is also a specific programming language: Ruby on Rails.

    Like the bus error message that appears for no reason in linux kernel, and no one cares to fix it for more than 3 years. when i started with linux, i wished only evil corporations does this kind of thing. but screwing users is profession wise acceptable. The kernel developer could at least removed the damn message if it will not be fixed.

  • iMalc (unregistered)

    You can copy and paste out of a standard messagebox you knob. You just hit Ctrl-C. You don't even have to select anything.

    It even works in some non-standard ones! E.g. [Window Title] Notepad

    [Main Instruction] Do you want to save changes to Untitled?

    [Save] [Don't Save] [Cancel]

  • AndyC (unregistered)

    I've never quite understood why people would continue to use an antivirus product when it makes such hopeless errors with something as simple as dates. Isn't that a good sign that you should probably switch to something a bit less crap?

    However, as always, TRWTF is Postgres.

  • Bonbon (unregistered)

    How do radio buttons get to this state? Is it a case of a Web developer sprinkling random <option> tags without an overall <selection> tag?

    My favourite dislike in surveys are the ones where not selecting an option has meaning (e.g. "does not apply"). After you have selected one option, you're stuck with no way of deselcting.

    Also...

    Can a child get an adult password?

    What is a male lavatory?

  • (cs) in reply to Luiz Felipe
    Luiz Felipe:
    Like the bus error message that appears for no reason in linux kernel, and no one cares to fix it for more than 3 years. when i started with linux, i wished only evil corporations does this kind of thing. but screwing users is profession wise acceptable. The kernel developer could at least removed the damn message if it will not be fixed.
    Linux is open source. Fix it yourself instead of whining here.
  • (cs) in reply to Bonbon
    Bonbon:
    How do radio buttons get to this state? Is it a case of a Web developer sprinkling random <option> tags without an overall <selection> tag?
    No, because a) there is no such thing as a <selection> tag, and b) radio buttons don't have anything to do with <option> tags. Anyway, the answer to your question is: click them.
  • Giuseppe (unregistered) in reply to Torge
    Torge:
    Makes me wonder what "More help" is provided about the Male/Female choice?!
    How to work out if you;re male or female....look down ...

    Not here, stupid....

  • Mitchell (unregistered) in reply to Anonymous
    Anonymous:
    Matt:
    trwrtf of the math captcha is trying 0, 7, and null, but not trying -7

    Agreed, although anything other than NULL is plainly wrong.

    So working out what the computer meant instead of following what the computer said is wrong?

  • Blingwad (unregistered) in reply to anon
    anon:
    Harrow:
    anon:
    The expression tar baby is also used occasionally as a derogatory term for black people (in the U.S. it refers to African-Americans; in New Zealand it refers to Maoris), or among blacks as a term for a particularly dark-skinned person. As a result, some people suggest avoiding the use of the term in any context.
    Well are any of those people here?

    -Harrow.

    It doesn't matter, they suggest avoiding the use of the term in any context, not just when they're around.

    All Kiwis are sheep-shaggers - Maori or otherwise....

  • Jiminy (unregistered) in reply to Poncy Leon
    Poncy Leon:
    Brian White:
    null minus seven is null. It's not a math captcha, it's a database developer captcha which is also a gotcha.

    While programmers jump automatically to thinking of null pointers, in everyday speech "null" is a word for zero (though admittedly, seldom used in arithmetical contexts in English; maybe the CAPTCHA writer was a German speaker?), so "null minus seven" is -7.

    Given some of the parallel discussion here, I misread you to say "White programmers" - sadly, the post didn't work for me (other than that)

  • genitus (unregistered) in reply to Matt Westwood
    Matt Westwood:
    Jay:
    Harrow:
    anon:
    The expression tar baby is also used occasionally as a derogatory term for black people (in the U.S. it refers to African-Americans; in New Zealand it refers to Maoris), or among blacks as a term for a particularly dark-skinned person. As a result, some people suggest avoiding the use of the term in any context.
    Well are any of those people here?

    -Harrow.

    If the latest word declared to be racist is spoken in a forest when no white liberals are around, is anyone offended?

    Well the grey squirrels refer to the red ones as "tomatoes", while the red ones call the grey ones "rainclouds", so there's racist language wherever you go. And don't get me started on the race wars between the white and black rhinoceroses.

    What gay squirrels?

  • sagaciter (unregistered) in reply to OldPeter
    OldPeter:
    About that § sign in the generated password: It's frequently used in German texts and is followed normally by the number of a legal paragraph which you want to refer to. So, like the first replier wrote: legal paragraph, not an ordinary text paragraph. In German texts. So it's available on every standard German keyboard layout, on top of the 3. German keyboard layout. - In return, that US paragraph sign, which appears when you press the return key in a text processor application, is totally unknown to us here in Germany, we have to learn it when getting into contact with computers. - Don't know about the use of that paragraph sign in other foreign languages, whether there's a similar usage to that in Germany.
    Here in Australia, when I press the return key in a Word Processor the cursor jumps to the new line. I find it peculiar that in the rest of the worl it apparently prints some symbol
  • Uh Oh (unregistered) in reply to Pim
    Pim:
    Well, since nobody's going to say it...
    Article:
    "The Israeli bus company 'Dan' recently started putting big screens for commercials on the back of the bus,"
    TRWTF is that the Israeli bus company 'Dan' only has one bus.
    They had more, but they were just old bombs....
  • Uh Oh (unregistered) in reply to Pim
    Pim:
    Well, since nobody's going to say it...
    Article:
    "The Israeli bus company 'Dan' recently started putting big screens for commercials on the back of the bus,"
    TRWTF is that the Israeli bus company 'Dan' only has one bus.
    They had more, but they were just old bombs....
  • JIC (unregistered)

    I notice noone has pointed out that you can just press Cntrl C to get Message Box Text. Bet none of you knew that!!

  • Dan (unregistered) in reply to daily
    daily:
    Pim:
    Well, since nobody's going to say it...
    Article:
    "The Israeli bus company 'Dan' recently started putting big screens for commercials on the back of the bus,"
    TRWTF is that the Israeli bus company 'Dan' only has one bus.

    No, TRWTF is that when they upgraded to Vista, they had to replace all of their drivers (see here http://www.dan.co.il/template/default.asp?textSearch=&catid=1&pageId=207)

    That site is GOLD!! Not sure if I want to catch buses with "Constant changes in routes"

    Constant changes in routes.

    8.12.2011 Correction of the schedule of movement of buses on Saturday in the evening-354.

    Correction of the schedule of movement of buses on Saturday in the evening-354.

    Specifications aren't brought In the schedule of movement of buses on Saturday evening published on our site.

    The exact schedule is here:

    From Benei Beraq: 21:00, 23:30.

    From Beer Yaakov: 19:45, 22:15.

    Company "Dan" is given apologizes before you.

    the Kind way!

    Constant changes in routes.

    30.11.2011 The bus stations on Dizengoff st. is canceled -72, 172.

    Announcement to those traveling by routes #72, 172.

    The bus stations on Dizengoff st. 79 ( Bar-Kohba) in Tel-Aviv is canceled in direction from Riding.

    Since Thursday 01.12.2011 the bus stations on Dizengoff st. 79 ( Bar-Kohba) in Tel-Aviv is canceled in direction from Riding.

    the Kind way!

    It is possible that some additional changes will be necessary, which we will not be able to announce in advance.

    Constant changes in routes.

    13.12.2011 Change the bus station place on Dizengof st. -39,139, 239.

    Announcement to those travelling by routes #39,139, 239.

    Transfer of the bus station on Dizengof st. #213 to the Dizengof st. #203, in the direction of a route from Riding, in Tel Aviv.

    Since the Tuesday 13.12.2011 bus station on Dizengof st. #213 will be transferred to the Dizengof st. #203, in the direction of a route from Riding, in Tel Aviv.

    the Kind way:

    It is possible that some additional changes will be necessary, which we will not be able to announce in advance. <

  • Chimay Blue (unregistered) in reply to da Doctah
    da Doctah:
    This is not my real name:
    The real WTF is Belgium. On keyboards in Belgium, § is on its own key, *under* 6, just like ² (with shift giving you ³). Obviously the designer of the first Belgian keyboard thought those would be much more commonly needed than the period, which requires pressing shift, or the @-sign, conveniently accessible as ctrl-alt-é. That's why I switched to a more sensible layout.

    That's Belgium for you. The country that gave the world Tintin, Rene Magritte and Plastic Bertrand.

    It's all that strong ale they drink.

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