• (cs)

    I get bad files because of the carriage return difference so ridiculously often, I'm convinced that MOST people in tech are unaware that different character encodings exist.

    Me: Can you please switch your FTP client to use ASCII mode instead of Binary when you send me the file?

    Client: ....

    Me: <Insert speech for the hundredth time about Unix vs Windows line endings.>

    I'm so tired of these things bombing my imports I've pretty much decided not to even bring it up anymore and just clean the file with a script on my end.

  • (cs) in reply to Algoreithm
    Algoreithm:
    Algoreithm := repeating something over and over until everyone is convinced it is true.

    +1!!

  • Paul Neumann (unregistered) in reply to RandomNoun7
    RandomNoun7:
    I'm so tired of these things bombing my imports I've pretty much decided not to even bring it up anymore and just clean the file with a script on my end.
    That would be the correct decision. All file transfers should be binary. If you're particular about your line-ends, particulate them yourself. It should not be the responsibility of the transportation mechanism to mutate your data.
  • Tony Abbott (unregistered) in reply to Algoreithm
    Algoreithm:
    Steve The Cynic:
    Mcoder:
    > You could choose from "No conversion" or "Binary conversion".

    What? Ahab invented FTP?

    No, duh, Lyle invented FTP.

    No Al Gore invented the Internet therefore he also invented FTP.

    Algoreithm := repeating something over and over until everyone is convinced it is true.

    Uhm....but Malcom Turnbull said he invented the internets
  • Yolgre (unregistered) in reply to Paul Neumann
    Paul Neumann:
    RandomNoun7:
    I'm so tired of these things bombing my imports I've pretty much decided not to even bring it up anymore and just clean the file with a script on my end.
    That would be the correct decision. All file transfers should be binary. If you're particular about your line-ends, particulate them yourself. It should not be the responsibility of the transportation mechanism to mutate your data.
    x2

    When you want stuff formatted the way you want you do it yourself. When you want stuff zigactly how someone sends it, then you take it how they send it. Intermediate protocols modifying content is wrong unless that's the specific purpose of the protocol.

  • Yolgre (unregistered) in reply to Yolgre
    Yolgre:
    Paul Neumann:
    RandomNoun7:
    I'm so tired of these things bombing my imports I've pretty much decided not to even bring it up anymore and just clean the file with a script on my end.
    That would be the correct decision. All file transfers should be binary. If you're particular about your line-ends, particulate them yourself. It should not be the responsibility of the transportation mechanism to mutate your data.
    x2

    When you want stuff formatted the way you want you do it yourself. When you want stuff zigactly how someone sends it, then you take it how they send it. Intermediate protocols modifying content is wrong unless that's the specific purpose of the protocol.

    Addendum: Of course, you can not accept stuff that's not formatted how you like, thus forcing the person at the other end to format to your liking. but that's still not done by the intermediary....
  • Gunslinger (unregistered)

    All that story for a reverse-string encoded cookie? WTF?

  • decet (unregistered) in reply to Gunslinger
    Gunslinger:
    All that story for a reverse-string encoded cookie? WTF?
    Parturient montes, nascetur ridiculus mus.
  • Jibble (unregistered)

    Why can't they just accept either format? Is it really so difficult?

    Reminds me of sites which say things like "Please enter credit card number without spaces". Is it really so difficult for a computer to remove spaces from a string?

    Apparently so. I once worked with a major credit card processing company who simply couldn't see the problem when I explained it to them, or that it could even be fixed.

  • oznaH (unregistered) in reply to belzebub
    belzebub:
    Still better than Hanzo, though.

    I respectfully disagree. Does not the Book of the Five Rings say: "Better to craft a story with cohesion and revolving around a single plot than to subject the reader to inane drivel and poor allegory."

    I think not.

    -o

  • anonymous (unregistered) in reply to RandomNoun7
    RandomNoun7:
    I get bad files because of the carriage return difference so ridiculously often, I'm convinced that MOST people in tech are unaware that different character encodings exist.

    Me: Can you please switch your FTP client to use ASCII mode instead of Binary when you send me the file?

    Client: ....

    Me: <Insert speech for the hundredth time about Unix vs Windows line endings.>

    I'm so tired of these things bombing my imports I've pretty much decided not to even bring it up anymore and just clean the file with a script on my end.

    If you'd encode it all in XML you wouldn't have that problem. Unless you roll your own XML parser and it barfs if the line breaks aren't correct, but that's your own fault then...

  • tom (unregistered)

    I stopped reading when I saw the name "snoofle". Is it boring and pompous?

  • Jason (unregistered)

    All that for "FTP upload used text instead of binary transfer mode."

    Screw this site. I just don't care any more, and neither do the admins or the story submitters.

  • anonymous (unregistered) in reply to Jason
    Jason:
    All that for "FTP upload used text instead of binary transfer mode."

    Screw this site. I just don't care any more, and neither do the admins or the story submitters.

    TRWTF is that text-mode FTP even exists, much less is the default. FTP should not fuck around with the contents of files.

  • (cs) in reply to anonymous
    anonymous:
    TRWTF is that text-mode FTP even exists, much less is the default. FTP should not fuck around with the contents of files.
    Right or wrong, it's just how things were done in those days.
  • anonymous (unregistered) in reply to nomdeplume
    nomdeplume:
    anonymous:
    TRWTF is that text-mode FTP even exists, much less is the default. FTP should not fuck around with the contents of files.
    Right or wrong, it's just how things were done in those days.
    That could be said about a lot of things.
  • eric bloedow (unregistered)

    reminds me of a story i read where someone's password was "drowssap"...

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