• Marvin the Martian (unregistered) in reply to Anon
    @Deprecated:
    The Real TRWTF: "One summer day, at 2am"
    I don't get it. What do you call these typical 24h periods, even in summer?

    Not days, clearly, judging from a handful of too-clever responses.

  • Noch'n Pedant (unregistered) in reply to derula
    derula:
    Fredrik:
    Ich bin Frist!

    Did you mean: Ich bin fristgerecht gekündigt worden. ?

    However, not you have been terminated, but your contract has been terminated. So: Mir ist (mein Vertrag) fristgerecht gekündigt worden.

  • SR (unregistered) in reply to Marvin the Martian
    Marvin the Martian:
    I know techies are soapdodgers, but some reach the epic levels of vampire-vs.-holy-water aversion. "Who cares my servers have been unguarded for hours, as long as the floor isn't cleaned."

    I'm by no means a soap-dodger but I'd rather the soapy water was kept away from all that cabling under the floor.

    Sure it shouldn't leak but let's not test this on a production system.

  • (cs)
    there was even one server (and a backup of that server) whose only function was to monitor the other server and send notifications if anything fell out of the operations norm.

    Reminds me of something that happened at my college. There was a server running Nagios for monitoring the other servers, and would send emails to a mailing list when something went down, or came back up. All well and good - until the day when the network switch that most of the other servers were connected to went haywire. Suddenly the Nagios box couldn't access any of the other servers, however it was still connected to the rest of the network itself, and it proceeded to send an seperate email for every service that had gone down. Then the broken switch came back up, so Nagios emailed for every service that it could now see again.

    Repeat a few times, and Nagios sent well over a thousand of these notification emails to the list before someone stopped it. Not nice being on the recieving end of that...

  • bored (unregistered) in reply to m0ffx
    m0ffx:
    there was even one server (and a backup of that server) whose only function was to monitor the other server and send notifications if anything fell out of the operations norm.

    Reminds me of something that happened at my college. There was a server running Nagios for monitoring the other servers, and would send emails to a mailing list when something went down, or came back up. All well and good - until the day when the network switch that most of the other servers were connected to went haywire. Suddenly the Nagios box couldn't access any of the other servers, however it was still connected to the rest of the network itself, and it proceeded to send an seperate email for every service that had gone down. Then the broken switch came back up, so Nagios emailed for every service that it could now see again.

    Repeat a few times, and Nagios sent well over a thousand of these notification emails to the list before someone stopped it. Not nice being on the recieving end of that...

    Sounds like they don't know how to set Nagios up properly.

  • Blue Collar (unregistered)

    So me and my co-worker went to fix these ac units, and halfway through the job some techy-NERD comes in complaining about how theirs no AC, talk about ANNOYING... HEY... wait a minute!!

  • Jay (unregistered) in reply to @Deprecated
    @Deprecated:
    The Real TRWTF: "One summer day, at 2am"

    According to thefreedictionary.com:

    day (n)

    1. The period of light between dawn and nightfall; the interval from sunrise to sunset.

    a. The 24-hour period during which the earth completes one rotation on its axis. b. The period during which a celestial body makes a similar rotation.

    Note definition 2. Have you never before heard the word "day" used to refer to a 24-hour period, including both the light and dark parts? I didn't think that was an obscure use of the word.

  • (cs) in reply to nope
    nope:
    I remember when this site had TWO NEW STORIES every day; now it's one article per day and full of filler like shitty comics, useless programming problems outside of the scope of the site, mandatory ad day, supposed WTF's that aren't really all that bad (e.g. unencrypted passwords), and Alex's soapbox (barf).

    Get back to your roots, bring the WTF stories.

    It's not even daily. Saturday and Sunday are days too.
  • (cs) in reply to illtiz
    illtiz:
    OMG:
    There are two (or three?) levels of redundant servers, but THEY'RE ALL IN THE SAME SERVER ROOM?

    That's TRWTF right there. Anything bad happens (power out, flood, robbery, airplane crash, clueless HVAC repairmen) and you've got a single point of failure. I think the AC guys are blameless -- it's the guys who decided to put all their eggs in one refrigerated basket that deserve the blame.

    Disagreed. An adequate server room will have redundant power supply (usually two independent lines plus a generator). Natural disaster and stupidity can of course only be met by adding a layer of geographically independent redundancy, but otherwise it is perfectly legitimate to set up redundant systems at a single location (note, the room does have redundant AC).

    If they were gunning for three-nines uptime, they should have had another site, but for (say) 99.5% p.a., it's not required (while redundant servers are).

    what about 99.5% per 6 months or 99.5% per 18 months?

  • xenylamine (unregistered)

    After our server's UPS mysteriously burnt out, I caught our cleaning staff plugging the vacuum cleaner into a power strip. I'm just glad the UPS is the -only- thing they fucked up.

  • Jay (unregistered) in reply to G
    G:
    So, is TRWTF here that some unknown guys with blue overalls have unrestricted access to server room(s)?

    Reminds me of a little story I heard years ago from a truck-driver. He said he was assigned to deliver a load of food to the commissary at an army base. When he got there, the guard at the gate asked him for the password of the day. He said he had no idea: no one had told him that there was a password. The guard said, "Sorry, I can't let anyone in without the password." He replied, "But, we have your food." The guard then not only let him in but personally escorted him to the commissary.

    Moral of the story: The biggest hole in any security system is that people will casually break the rules to advance their own convenience. People with food, people fixing the air conditioning, etc, can often get past security, because the people inside figure that the probability of any given person trying to gain admittance really being a spy or a saboteur or a terrorist or whatever is small, but the probability that they want the food or the comfortable temperature is 100%. I'm sure if you asked them, "Couldn't a terrorist come disguised as an air conditioning repairman?", they'd concede that, yes, this is possible, but hey, the building is awfully hot and they need the AC fixed now.

    As the truck-driver commented, "If we could just learn how to say 'We have your food' in every language, we could conquer the world."

  • My Name? (unregistered) in reply to spxza
    spxza:
    BBT:
    "But the phone lines were dead, too, which could only mean one thing: a bomb, a fire, or a giant robot wreaking havoc throughout the city."

    1 = 3

    TRWTF

    or != and TRRWTF

    You do it all wrong!

    It is:

    || != &&

  • Peter (unregistered) in reply to Jay
    Jay:
    The guard said, "Sorry, I can't let anyone in without the password." He replied, "But, we have your food." The guard then not only let him in but personally escorted him to the commissary.

    Moral of the story: The biggest hole in any security system is that people will casually break the rules to advance their own convenience.

    The guard escorted him. As long as the guard (or someone from the commissary) stayed with him until he left the base, it doesn't sound as if the security system is too badly broken. In fact, I'd venture that it's more secure than relying on a password.

  • (cs) in reply to methinks
    methinks:
    And the other thing about all these aircon-fail stories: Even regular consumer grade PCs have the ability to shutdown the system in case the CPU overheats...

    The problem is, this was not too common until the P4 introduced in-chip thermal protection. Given that the story was from 2006, and was stated then as "a few years ago", it is entirely possible that at least some of the servers in question were running Pentium Pro or first-gen Xeon CPUs without thermal monitoring.

  • Mein Name? (unregistered) in reply to Noch'n Pedant
    Noch'n Pedant:
    derula:
    Fredrik:
    Ich bin Frist!

    Did you mean: Ich bin fristgerecht gekündigt worden. ?

    However, not you have been terminated, but your contract has been terminated. So: Mir ist (mein Vertrag) fristgerecht gekündigt worden.

    Learn German with thedailywtf.com!

  • Phil (unregistered) in reply to ChadV

    It actually happened in the mid-90s and they were mostly Sun Sparcs, and no, there was no thermal protection.

    To answer some other questions raised: There was indeed also an offsite disaster recovery site and that was used to run the next day's processing while they rebuild the file systems in the server room.

    The air-con guys were employed by the landlord. They were let in by building security since they had a right to be there (the lease made all air conditioning, even the stuff in the server room, the landlords responsibility). TRWTF was poor communications between tenant and landlord.

    No, I didn't really get the day off. That was part of Alex's making the story better. I just got no work done.

  • tekHedd (unregistered) in reply to My Name?

    The language is awkward, but "one" is more or less correct. There would be no confusion if it was written "one of three", as in this example:

    "...could only mean one of three things: an unterminated single quote, typo, or pedantic compiler warning-as-error wreaking havoc with the build".

    (My pedant can whup your pedant!) (Second try!)

  • Pants (unregistered) in reply to Uhhh

    TRWTF is that there wasn't a third backup air conditioner (with a backup air conditioner of course).

  • alister (unregistered) in reply to Phil
    Phil:
    It actually happened in the mid-90s and they were mostly Sun Sparcs, and no, there was no thermal protection.

    To answer some other questions raised: There was indeed also an offsite disaster recovery site and that was used to run the next day's processing while they rebuild the file systems in the server room.

    The air-con guys were employed by the landlord. They were let in by building security since they had a right to be there (the lease made all air conditioning, even the stuff in the server room, the landlords responsibility). TRWTF was poor communications between tenant and landlord.

    No, I didn't really get the day off. That was part of Alex's making the story better. I just got no work done.

    Similar happened to me, wing of building that server room is in is having its sockets/lighting etc power checked & will not be touching our server room. I want to be there, except my supervisor says no - no working on weekends, so he can reduce the O/T figures. Well long story short we have 5 AC units in server room they kill the power to four of them. First indication is comms gear goes down. We were lucky only lost a few Hard drives.

    I got a nice few hours of work, the comms provider had a call out to charge for and I was vindicated (for the umpteenth time)

  • (cs) in reply to Mein Name?
    Mein Name?:
    Noch'n Pedant:
    derula:
    Fredrik:
    Ich bin Frist!

    Did you mean: Ich bin fristgerecht gekündigt worden. ?

    However, not you have been terminated, but your contract has been terminated. So: Mir ist (mein Vertrag) fristgerecht gekündigt worden.

    Learn German with thedailywtf.com!

    To give you the opportunity to learn better German: the correct and non-awkward sentence is "Mein Vertrag ist fristgerecht gekündigt worden."
  • (cs) in reply to Peter
    Peter:
    Jay:
    The guard said, "Sorry, I can't let anyone in without the password." He replied, "But, we have your food." The guard then not only let him in but personally escorted him to the commissary.

    Moral of the story: The biggest hole in any security system is that people will casually break the rules to advance their own convenience.

    The guard escorted him. As long as the guard (or someone from the commissary) stayed with him until he left the base, it doesn't sound as if the security system is too badly broken. In fact, I'd venture that it's more secure than relying on a password.

    Are you sure? What if this "delivery guy's" truck had been filled with explosives, not food? The guard escorts him into the base, he parks near some sensitive target and presses the button...

  • Pauller (unregistered) in reply to lolwtf
    lolwtf:
    nope:
    I remember when this site had TWO NEW STORIES every day; now it's one article per day and full of filler like shitty comics, useless programming problems outside of the scope of the site, mandatory ad day, supposed WTF's that aren't really all that bad (e.g. unencrypted passwords), and Alex's soapbox (barf).

    Get back to your roots, bring the WTF stories.

    It's not even daily. Saturday and Sunday are days too.

    Me, I'm happy to see one a day. Alex does have a day job, and does this site in his free time. I'm grateful for him keeping it daily.

  • (cs)

    The phone lines went down because the server room A/C system was turned off?

    Exageration or bullshit story - you decide! :)

  • Henning Makholm (unregistered) in reply to luis.espinal
    luis.espinal:
    The phone lines went down because the server room A/C system was turned off?
    What better place than the server room to put your PABX?
  • Laughing Jack (unregistered) in reply to Anon
    Anon:
    Anonymous:
    Anon Ymous:
    Retarticle:
    which could only mean one thing: a bomb, a fire, or a giant robot wreaking havoc throughout the city.
    I think someone forgot how to count to ONE.
    You seriously think that all three of those unlikely events might be happening simultaneously? I think it's far more likely to be one of those things rather than all of them.

    Then it should say one of three things not one thing. Or better:

    which could only mean one thing a disaster such as: a bomb, a fire, or a giant robot...

    Now the "one thing" is a disaster, and that one disaster could be any number of things. This was obviously the intent of the sentence.

    This can only mean one thing: you're a pedant, a smartass, or a jackass.

  • (cs) in reply to Anon
    Anon:
    Anonymous:
    Anon Ymous:
    Retarticle:
    which could only mean one thing: a bomb, a fire, or a giant robot wreaking havoc throughout the city.
    I think someone forgot how to count to ONE.
    You seriously think that all three of those unlikely events might be happening simultaneously? I think it's far more likely to be one of those things rather than all of them.

    Then it should say one of three things not one thing. Or better:

    which could only mean one thing a disaster such as: a bomb, a fire, or a giant robot...

    Now the "one thing" is a disaster, and that one disaster could be any number of things. This was obviously the intent of the sentence.

    I'm just glad we're spending time arguing semantics, when you even agree that the intent of the sentence was obvious.

  • (cs) in reply to tekHedd
    tekHedd:
    The language is awkward, but "one" is more or less correct. There would be no confusion if it was written "one of three", as in this example[...]
    OK - so your point is based on the premise that the phrase "it could only mean one thing" is semantically equivalent to "it could only mean one of three things"? If so, would it not be equally valid to equate it with "it could only mean one of a million things"? Clearly this would render the phrase entirely pointless, so on purely pragmatic grounds, you must be wrong.
    (My pedant can whup your pedant!)
    Your pedant has been whupped by a Level 3 Pedantry Master.
  • Laughing Jack (unregistered) in reply to Anonymous
    Anonymous:
    Robo:
    If the AC guys are contracted to keep the AC units maintained and running in a server room... <snip>
    It never said this anywhere in the article. You are making a huge assumption that they were contracted by this company for this specific job. For all you know, they were called out for an ad-hoc fix and have come from an air-con company that the bank had previously never used. You can't just make up the bits of the story that weren't mentioned.
    Reminds me of an old story, you might have heard it, but it goes a bit like this:

    "There is a big order to be filled at the factory, and everyone has been working overtime. The boss comes down to the factory floor to talk to the foreman, and he sees this guy just loafing around, hands in his pockets, smoking a cigarette. Well, the boss marches up to this guy, pulls out his wallet and pays him a weeks wages. 'Get out of here', he says 'and don't ever come back'. The guy takes the money and leaves. So then the boss goes over to the foreman and asks 'Who was that guy?' 'Him?' says the foreman, 'Oh he's the deliveryman.'"

  • (cs) in reply to Anonymous
    Anonymous:
    operagost:
    Anonymous:
    I think there are better stories to promote to "classic" status. Why should the air-con guys even know (or care) about the cooling requirements of a server room?
    That's like an auto mechanic deciding to remove the seats from your car unannounced because he's unaware of the seating requirements of your butt.

    Of course, TRWTF is that IT didn't know the maintenance was going to be performed.

    I disagree. Air-con guys do air-con - it is not their responsibility to worry about what the air-con is being used for. In the same way that your mechanic doesn't need to know where or how you drive your car in order to fix it. He doesn't care where you drive it, it's none of his business, it doesn't affect how he fixes your car.
    Except with this analogy, it would be like a mechanic showing up while you are driving down the highway and removing the wheels to replace the brakes as preventative maintenance.

  • Cunning Linguist (unregistered) in reply to gasman
    gasman:
    OK - so your point is based on the premise that the phrase "it could only mean one thing" is semantically equivalent to "it could only mean one of three things"? If so, would it not be equally valid to equate it with "it could only mean one of a million things"? Clearly this would render the phrase entirely pointless, so on purely pragmatic grounds, you must be wrong.
    No, because natural languages don't work that way. But congratulations, you've discovered the heap paradox. Better late than never.

    Now there are a lot of fellows hanging around here who insist on applying the level of pedentry that they'd apply to computer programming to subjects where it is wholly inappropriate. It's been pointed out before, but I may as well say it again; this doesn't make you clever. It makes you a social retard. You just produce a kind of annoying background of aggression that has to be sifted through to find the actual jokes made by other people.

  • XXZ (unregistered)
    In fact, there was even one server (and a backup of that server) whose only function was to monitor the other server and send notifications if anything fell out of the operations norm.
    What's this? A system which monitors severs? Amazing! Clearly only the largest of the largest organizations would have one of those.
  • (cs) in reply to Nice try
    Nice try:
    G:
    So, is TRWTF here that some unknown guys with blue overalls have unrestricted access to server room(s)?

    Well, there's nothing in the story to suggest their access was unrestricted. Merely that the hero of the story hadn't called them.

    ...but I bet they're restricted now.

  • Brent (unregistered) in reply to OMG
    OMG:
    There are two (or three?) levels of redundant servers, but THEY'RE ALL IN THE SAME SERVER ROOM?

    That's TRWTF right there. Anything bad happens (power out, flood, robbery, airplane crash, clueless HVAC repairmen) and you've got a single point of failure.

    I worked for a small start up a few years back, and at one point I mentioned to boss that when things were scaled up changes would have to be made because we had single point of failure problems. It wasn't long before I heard him advertising to VCs and other visitors about the "single point of failure" as a key advantage of our system.

  • (cs) in reply to Pffft
    Pffft:
    Meh, I prefer the one where the drone turned off the AC to save energy and mailed everyone about it.

    That would be "I'm Sure You Can Deal".

  • Procedural (unregistered) in reply to Anonymous
    Anonymous:
    Anon Ymous:
    Retarticle:
    which could only mean one thing: a bomb, a fire, or a giant robot wreaking havoc throughout the city.
    I think someone forgot how to count to ONE.
    You seriously think that all three of those unlikely events might be happening simultaneously? I think it's far more likely to be one of those things rather than all of them.

    Well... #1 would cause #2, and #1 is a pretty good response to #3, so I disagree with your conditional expression.

  • (cs) in reply to Anon Ymous
    Anon Ymous:
    Retarticle:
    which could only mean one thing: a bomb, a fire, or a giant robot wreaking havoc throughout the city.

    I think someone forgot how to count to ONE.

    I think someone knows how to count to one but forgot to STOP.

  • mokus (unregistered) in reply to Anonymous
    Anonymous:
    operagost:
    Anonymous:
    I think there are better stories to promote to "classic" status. Why should the air-con guys even know (or care) about the cooling requirements of a server room?
    That's like an auto mechanic deciding to remove the seats from your car unannounced because he's unaware of the seating requirements of your butt.

    Of course, TRWTF is that IT didn't know the maintenance was going to be performed.

    I disagree. Air-con guys do air-con - it is not their responsibility to worry about what the air-con is being used for. In the same way that your mechanic doesn't need to know where or how you drive your car in order to fix it. He doesn't care where you drive it, it's none of his business, it doesn't affect how he fixes your car.

    Auto mechanics don't usually work on the car while you're driving it. These AC guys were working on the systems while they were in use. Here's a different car analogy: the mechanic (don't ask me how...) changes the oil while you're driving the car. The engine block cracks and he shrugs it off because it's not his problem to think about what that oil was being used for.

  • Xythar (unregistered) in reply to avflinsch
    avflinsch:
    OMG:
    There are two (or three?) levels of redundant servers, but THEY'RE ALL IN THE SAME SERVER ROOM?

    WTF - they shouldn't even be in the same Time Zone

    But then how will they be able to perform maintenance on the primary and backup servers at once to save time??

  • Old timer (unregistered) in reply to Uhhh
    Uhhh:
    I think the WTF is more along the lines of that their servers are so delicate that they can't handle a thermal shutdown with having to be rebuilt! I mean, really! My POS Exchange box can handle that!

    Up until the mid 90's, any Unix box crashed irretrievably if the power went off.

    In the banks I knew, these transaction servers were mostly unix mini-computers, which had replaced older mini-computer systems.

  • Outback (unregistered) in reply to Anonymous
    Anonymous:
    operagost:
    Anonymous:
    I think there are better stories to promote to "classic" status. Why should the air-con guys even know (or care) about the cooling requirements of a server room?
    That's like an auto mechanic deciding to remove the seats from your car unannounced because he's unaware of the seating requirements of your butt.

    Of course, TRWTF is that IT didn't know the maintenance was going to be performed.

    I disagree. Air-con guys do air-con - it is not their responsibility to worry about what the air-con is being used for. In the same way that your mechanic doesn't need to know where or how you drive your car in order to fix it. He doesn't care where you drive it, it's none of his business, it doesn't affect how he fixes your car.
    Bulldust

  • Bob (unregistered) in reply to Teeyouecksayee
    Teeyouecksayee:
    Once we caught a stupid fuck drilling holes in the concrete walls without covering even the nearby servers. With an old, large, heavy power drill plugged into a power outlet inside a server rack. Which killed several critical servers.
    TRWTF: the term "critical server".

    Let's assume the cost of a backup server sitting in another building, or even just in another office with a separate power supply is ten thousand dollars a month. Hell, assume that the cost is $10K/month just to keep a decent UPS that can protect the server from someone plugging in a drill. Apparantly this wasn't in the budget.

    The definition of "critical" is now "less than the wages to hire one decent guy in New York"?

    Sorry, if you can't invest in a redundant server and a decent UPS, then you can not legitimately claim that the success of the business depends on that server. And that means the server is not critical at all. Useful, maybe, but not critical.

    Teeyouecksayee:
    I don't think that things like these are too uncommon unfortunately.
    In order for these things to occur, all you need is a pointy haired moron in charge who sees the cost of preventing the problem and doesn't even consider the cost of fixing the problem after it occurs.

    Hell, that probably comes out of someone else's budget, so he's a hero for not spending his prevent-the-problem budget and someone else takes the fall when they spend their clean-up-the-mess buidget.

    Corporate beauracracy for the win!

  • moz (unregistered) in reply to Jay
    Jay:
    @Deprecated:
    The Real TRWTF: "One summer day, at 2am"

    Note definition 2. Have you never before heard the word "day" used to refer to a 24-hour period, including both the light and dark parts? I didn't think that was an obscure use of the word.

    Indeed not. As the song goes:

    It rained all night the day I left. The weather it was dry.

    It does make sense to refer to 2am on a day in summer, as you say. It doesn't help to set the scene, however, so the phrase in question would not normally be found in an anecdote.

  • Nick (unregistered)

    The Aircon guys didnt have unrestricted access obviously by the fact that the server room door was propped open. They had rocked up to work on the Aircon, security had let them in and then propped the door open for them so they could get in and out.

    My guess as well is the first page came at 2am, by the time he gave up trying to remote in, and got dressed to go in, it was probably after 4am, and didnt get there till atleast sometime after 5am. And the aircon guys were probably told to do the job earily in the morning before anyone go into work so they didnt disturb the employees by having the aircon off and workman coming and going.

  • Anon #137b4 (unregistered) in reply to Brent
    Brent:
    It wasn't long before I heard him advertising to VCs and other visitors about the "single point of failure" as a key advantage of our system.
    That's hilarious.
  • anon (unregistered) in reply to Ilya Ehrenburg
    Ilya Ehrenburg:
    Mein Name?:
    Noch'n Pedant:
    derula:
    Fredrik:
    Ich bin Frist!

    Did you mean: Ich bin fristgerecht gekündigt worden. ?

    However, not you have been terminated, but your contract has been terminated. So: Mir ist (mein Vertrag) fristgerecht gekündigt worden.

    Learn German with thedailywtf.com!

    To give you the opportunity to learn better German: the correct and non-awkward sentence is "Mein Vertrag ist fristgerecht gekündigt worden."
    To my German ears, both (“Mir ist ...” and “Mein Vertrag ...”) sound equally valid.
  • Mayhem (unregistered) in reply to Mason Wheeler
    Mason Wheeler:
    Peter:
    Jay:
    The guard said, "Sorry, I can't let anyone in without the password." He replied, "But, we have your food." The guard then not only let him in but personally escorted him to the commissary.

    Moral of the story: The biggest hole in any security system is that people will casually break the rules to advance their own convenience.

    The guard escorted him. As long as the guard (or someone from the commissary) stayed with him until he left the base, it doesn't sound as if the security system is too badly broken. In fact, I'd venture that it's more secure than relying on a password.

    Are you sure? What if this "delivery guy's" truck had been filled with explosives, not food? The guard escorts him into the base, he parks near some sensitive target and presses the button...

    So what you're saying is that the kitchen is the most important target in a military base?

    I'm with Peter - physically escorting someone to their destination where they can be identified properly by whoever is expecting them sounds like ideal security to me.

  • (cs) in reply to Jay
    Jay:
    @Deprecated:
    The Real TRWTF: "One summer day, at 2am"

    According to thefreedictionary.com:

    day (n)

    1. The period of light between dawn and nightfall; the interval from sunrise to sunset.

    a. The 24-hour period during which the earth completes one rotation on its axis. b. The period during which a celestial body makes a similar rotation.

    Note definition 2. Have you never before heard the word "day" used to refer to a 24-hour period, including both the light and dark parts? I didn't think that was an obscure use of the word.

    TRWTF is that English doesn't have the word 'døgn'.

    Anyway, why not use 'summer night' or 'summer morning' instead?

  • SR (unregistered) in reply to Pants
    Pants:
    TRWTF is that there wasn't a third backup air conditioner (with a backup air conditioner of course).

    Air conditioners all the way down.

  • SR (unregistered) in reply to Henning Makholm
    Henning Makholm:
    What better place than the server room to put your PABX?

    A reseller I used to work for sold a client a PABX that they (against our advice) put on their NT4 box (along with everything else in the company).

    All subsequent support calls featured this:

    Techie: Can you restart the server Client: Sure [a few seconds] [bzzzzt]

  • My Name? (unregistered) in reply to Cunning Linguist
    Cunning Linguist:
    No, because natural languages don't work that way. But congratulations, you've discovered the heap paradox. Better late than never.

    There is no heap paradox! If a heap contains only 2 elements it is still a heap.

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