• (cs)

    So that's why unemployment is going down. I've been wondering :-)

  • (cs) in reply to Corporate Cog

    > we had to install a screen saver preventer here to allow a third party app to run.

    Uh, what about just disabling the screen saver ?

  • Robert (unregistered) in reply to WIldpeaks
    WIldpeaks:

    > we had to install a screen saver preventer here to allow a third party app to run.

    Uh, what about just disabling the screen saver ?

    I'd hazard a guess at group policies being in place disabling the screensaver tab/control panel. Is the case here, too. 

  • (cs) in reply to Robert

    A good portion of my summer job as a web developer was like this.  We only had one website and the work they hired me for only took four days (took the previous three students three years and was a mess that I immediately rewrote).  They were excited to see it finished so quickly, but then they had nothing for me to do for nearly a month.  I came up with a few good ideas; putting everything into CVS, documenting what was there, etc.  Then I read Wikipedia.  After awhile, I started bringing textbooks and reading them.  Eventually, I became a regular on digg.  The worst days were when there wasn't enough new material on digg to keep me interested.

    After over a month they finally came up with a new project: redesign the entire website (a new look was coming down from the big wigs).  Of course, everything had to be checked over, and the lady in charge of this was already ridiculously busy.  I usually coded for a couple of hours, then twiddled thumbs for the rest of the day, until we could meet and go over the changes for next day.

    The worst part was, I was on contract for it all.  Of course, the contract was based on 40 hours a week for 4 months.  Since the job they actually hired me for was the first four days of work, it rattled me to no end that I couldn't just go home and take the money.  I didn't have to come in to work, but I was still getting paid by the hour.
     

    Now that the website is done, guess what I'm doing now?  That's right; getting paid to do homework.

  • ChiefCrazyTalk (unregistered) in reply to GTT

    The real WTF is that so many people have so little to do!  At my company, programmers are working 10-12 hour days, weekend, etc. and cannot keep up with the volume of work required.  

  • SnapShot (unregistered) in reply to Dazed
    Anonymous:
    Anonymous:
    Anonymous:

    I don't get this. Why would you do nothing? Even if they gave you nothing to do why didn't you just make something up? Write for an open source project or research a new technology, hone your skills. What's the worst that could happen? You get caught doing something rather than nothing?

    Ha! Having BTDT (Been There Done That), it doesn't quite work like that. An environment like that saps away ALL motivation to do anything. You just stop caring about anything.

    Well I've BTDT as well. And I don't see the problem. Sure, if you're in an environment such as many of those described here, where you have to get something done and every attempt to do it vaguely right gets torpedoed - I can believe that saps all motivation.

    But if you have no commitments? ISTM that no software developer with an Internet connection has any excuse for being bored.

     I'm willing to bet it was a classified environment.

    1. It's worth hiring that TS worker even if you don't have anything for him to do 'cause the government is paying for that slot.

    2.  Stupid security measures (15 minute session timeout) are par for the course.

    3. And, there might not have been an internet connection (or for that matter a development environment). 

  • (cs)

    My current job's a bit of a do nothing job. Trouble is, I made it that way. It's at a school, and when I started there, it was Win98, no real restrictions, all students used the same account, etc... Now it's like a stable enterprisey restricted setup, so nothing tends to fail. Mostly I just reset passwords and change toner cartridges.

    That said, some of my job is restricted by my employer (the state government's education department). They often announce projects stating they will be doing xyz very soon, which causes me to not bother with my existing similar project, but then they delay theirs. Currently I'm waiting on at least 2 projects to start, with no actual info or dates. They simply ignore emails sent by anyone and there's no published docs beyond end user docs for most stuff...

  • Robert (unregistered) in reply to ChiefCrazyTalk

    Anonymous:
    The real WTF is that so many people have so little to do!  At my company, programmers are working 10-12 hour days, weekend, etc. and cannot keep up with the volume of work required.  

     

    ChiefCrazyTalk, eh? Sounds like someone I know. 

  • zerrodefex (unregistered) in reply to b0red
    Anonymous:
    Anonymous:

    I don't get this. Why would you do nothing? Even if they gave you nothing to do why didn't you just make something up? Write for an open source project or research a new technology, hone your skills. What's the worst that could happen? You get caught doing something rather than nothing?

    Ha! Having BTDT (Been There Done That), it doesn't quite work like that. An environment like that saps away ALL motivation to do anything. You just stop caring about anything.

     

    Sounds like what my job turned into when all the money dried up and the developer was laid off but they still needed someone who knew the system to come in once a week to make sure things still worked.  I was happy to return to college just to have something to do during the day. 

  • Jimbo Jones (unregistered) in reply to cconroy

    cconroy wrote the following post at 11-13-2006 4:43 PM:

    				<p>&gt;That&#39;s just priceless.<br />
    

    Fischer-priceless?

     

  • brian (unregistered)

    yes!  i love it!

  • rycamor (unregistered)
    Alex Papadimoulis:

    The "data entry" task that Ryan inherited involved signing on to a Windows Server with Terminal Services, double-clicking an icon on the desktop, entering yesterday's date, clicking the "run" button, and letting the application process data for seven or so hours. And there was one other thing: it was absolutely vital that Ryan switched over to the terminal server and moved the cursor once at least once every fifteen minutes. If that didn't happen, the server would disconnect the session and the "data entry" process would need to run again. For another seven or so hours.

    See above for the #1 reason I develop on and work with Unix systems. I would rather dig ditches than be chained to such idiocy. Such a thing would never be tolerated in any Unix/Linux department I have ever seen.

    BTW, there is a certain macabre quality to that description above. I keep thinking of our hapless castaways in the show "Lost", who have to enter 4 8 15 16 23 42 into some mysterious underground computer every 45 minutes or the world will end.

  • dsfgsddsfgsdfgdsffg (unregistered) in reply to rycamor
    My friends just gave me that chair for our baby daughter.  It's quite nice actually.  Haven't gotten batteries for it yet though.
  • csrster (unregistered)

    With all the "dumb manager" stories that usually appear here, this is a real heart-warmer.

  • (cs) in reply to csrster

    I almost spit a coffee on my LCD..

  • gnarf (unregistered)

    Oh my dear lord....

     Although I've had to come up with similar ideas, the best ever yet is my nostromo n52 usb game controller, lets you macro stuff... Which is why my WoW character looks a little left and right every 10 seconds or so while I'm smoking :)

     

     

    CAPTCHA: bedtime - its way past mine     

  • Redshirt Coder (unregistered) in reply to Jehtris

    Jehtris:
    Those days we had 6 people working were BORING.  I'd read a Tom Clancy book in 2 or 3 days.

    .. .what took you so long? ;-)

     Reading all the replies, i realize my current assignment has a nice chance to mutate into something like this. F'thagn, these places really steal the dream out of your life. Thank you, alex, for giving us this WTF. Praise also has to go the original 'suffering imp'(tm) for endurance and to his manager for creativity.

    And alex, would you mind if i, äh, borrow the story and fax it to HR to drive home a point?

    capcha: whiskey   well, that would help?

    PS: honing your skills is the way to go, imho. I currently busy myself learning russian :-)

  • (cs) in reply to Redshirt Coder

    The problem with jobs like that is that you do stuff like reading digg all day... so when you come home there is nothing fancy entertaining thing left.. Sometimes you need to do sports or go to your girlfriend earlier just because you have post-whored in every imaginable forum all day long already.

  • (cs)

    I weep./

  • hc (unregistered) in reply to Darron

    Anonymous:
    By far the best WTF of the year. IMO

    Seconded. 

  • (cs)

    Ok...  after about an hour of doing that crap, I would have put all my idle energy into creating a better solution than an egg timer and staring off into space.  The vibrating chair is clever and all, but even before I finished reading the post I already was thinking one word...  AutoIt. 

  • (cs)
    Alex Papadimoulis:

     

    When Ryan went on vacation, he came back to find how his manager was able to solve the "data entry" task that he temporarily took over. Being the creative fellow he is, Ryan's manager found a spare workstation, brought in the Fisher Price Vibrating Rocking Chair from his attic, and placed an optical mouse in seat; the process was now able to run unattended because the minute mouse movements would continually reset the timeout counter. To this day, the FP-VRC remains a vital part of their data entry automation process.

     

    STAND UP OVATION ! The WTF of the year, really i laugheds to tears, and could not help but print the article to show everybody around !

     A Windows laptop : $1000

    A wireless keyboard : $50

    An optical trackball : $40

    Reading theDailyWTF : PRICELESS !!!!!!!!!
     

  • nstlgc (unregistered)

    Simpsons did it!

  • Real WTF (unregistered)

    The real WTF is why they didn't automate the report on the server side... (yes, it can be done on Windows too...)

    Captcha: clueless? Me?

  • (cs) in reply to Dazed
    Anonymous:
    Anonymous:
    Anonymous:

    I don't get this. Why would you do nothing? Even if they gave you nothing to do why didn't you just make something up? Write for an open source project or research a new technology, hone your skills. What's the worst that could happen? You get caught doing something rather than nothing?

    Ha! Having BTDT (Been There Done That), it doesn't quite work like that. An environment like that saps away ALL motivation to do anything. You just stop caring about anything.

    Well I've BTDT as well. And I don't see the problem. Sure, if you're in an environment such as many of those described here, where you have to get something done and every attempt to do it vaguely right gets torpedoed - I can believe that saps all motivation.

    But if you have no commitments? ISTM that no software developer with an Internet connection has any excuse for being bored.

     

    (Bolded the important part) Sadly, yes they do. A company typically owns the rights to a developer's inventions because most people just sign the NDA and other forms to get the job. I did, and I'm not even a developer, but any "inventions" I create while on the clock are owned by my company. It only makes sense though, since I'm using their office, their computer equipment, and their network connections to do anything on the Internet while getting paid from 8-5.

    Thankfully I've never been stuck in a situation as ridiculous as Ryan's though!
     

  • (cs) in reply to sf

    Anonymous:
    I had a roomate who was a chip designer at what is now a big PC chip company back when it was a startup.  After their initial release, and when there were experiencing a lot of production problems, he literally had nothing to do for months with no supervision.  He played Doom all day, 5 days a week.

    I did a consulting gig with a large ISP (more of a BBS, actually) back in the early '90s. I was responsible for the build process for a large project (US income tax software, federal and state). Of course, the federal tax was handled by one executable, and each individual state with income tax got it's own .EXE - a lot of apps.

    During early development, the build process took hours and hours. I came on shift at 6:00PM, and worked until the build was complete or when I was relieved by my day-shift counterpart at 6:00AM; if there was a problem that kept the build from finishing, I had to stay until it was fixed and the build completed. It was a 7 day of the week process; I billed a minimum of 84 hours a week, and there were weeks that I worked in excess of 100 hours.

    As the project got closer to being finished, though, and the individual state tax software was completed and frozen, the build process took fewer and fewer hours. It got to the point where I would start the build around 8:00PM and it would finish before 11:00PM.

    I talked to the project manager and mentioned that I was spending lots of hours doing nothing while waiting to be relieved in the morning, and suggested that I go home after the build finished. He said no, that I had to stay until I was relieved. I offered to go home when the build was done and return before 6:00AM to meet the day shift; he said no.

    I asked him what he wanted me to do after the build was done each night. His response was that he didn't care, as long as I was there until the day shift arrived. He suggested that I read a book, or bring in my own laptop and work on other projects, or play a game.

    Did anyone ever use the multiple monitor support in the original DOOM? You could set a monitor on either side of your main one, and start a separate DOOM game on each of the three PCs. With the right command-line options on each of the machines, you got a 3D-type game (the side monitors provided peripheral vision type views). I would go in every night, do the build, drag a couple of other machines over to my desk, play DOOM for four or five hours, rearrange the desks, read a book, work on my laptop, and get paid by the client.

    The project overall (for my involvement, anyway) lasted over a year. I'd say I got paid for the last 4 months for doing about a month's work.
     

     

  • Name withheld to project my income. (unregistered)

    OMG, I'm not the only one!

     

  • (cs)

    that's not a WTF, it's an HFS (Holy F'ing Sh*t)

  • Lancer (unregistered) in reply to b0red

    I agree, I have a boring IT job and I tried making up projects, etc..but unless you can apply it to something real, it gets old real fast. And then yes, the boredom will suck the energy and motivation right out of you.

  • wgc (unregistered) in reply to dentharg

    dentharg:
    I almost spit a coffee on my LCD..

     I _did_ spit up coffee on my keyboard (and lap).  WTF?
     

  • (cs) in reply to Lancer

    Lancer:
    I agree, I have a boring IT job and I tried making up projects, etc..but unless you can apply it to something real, it gets old real fast. And then yes, the boredom will suck the energy and motivation right out of you.

    How true... Minutes of panic when something forks up, combined with hours upon hours of tedium. So far I've taught myself PHP, some SQL, CSS, X/HTML and Javascript. Python, Ruby and Java are next on the list.

    Ho hum.

  • EvilTeach (unregistered) in reply to bullseye

    or maybe a tiny windows app that does

     

            for (;;)
            {
                mouse_event(MOUSEEVENTF_MOVE,1,0,0,0);
                mouse_event(MOUSEEVENTF_MOVE,-1,0,0,0);

                Sleep(60000);
            }

  • Bruce (unregistered)

    My last company was in death throws and I would have jumped ship if it hadn't been for a massive retention bonus.  Since I worked for the corporate IT group, I was "forced" to work from home when the local office shut down.  For three months I still got up every morning at 7 just to make sure I was logged into the VPN and showing as "active" on the corporate IM client.  I would then eat breakfast, watch TV, and mostly play Civilization III.  I quickly learned that a complete Civ III game lasted about 7 hours. I did have attend a daily conference call for about an hour, but that never interrupted the game.

  • (cs)

    Thank you, everyone.

    This isn't my job, but I'm in the same boat. I'm really happy to hear that I'm not the only one.

    I got here at 8am, and I've had literally nothing to do yet. It's almost 9:30.

     

     

     

  • segmentation fault (unregistered)

    i...wow...i...uh...holy crap... 

  • jas (unregistered) in reply to Lancer

    Anonymous:
    I agree, I have a boring IT job and I tried making up projects, etc..but unless you can apply it to something real, it gets old real fast. And then yes, the boredom will suck the energy and motivation right out of you.
      

     Does anyone know to break free of this? This is EXACTLY what has happened to me. It just don't fucking care anymore. I sit here and surf the entire day. Occasionally I'll dream up a project that takes less than a couple days to finish, but you can only do that so much. The only work I do is putting out fires (usually password reset or some bullshit) and the odd custom report for someone.
     

  • jones (unregistered) in reply to jas
    Anonymous:

    Anonymous:
    I agree, I have a boring IT job and I tried making up projects, etc..but unless you can apply it to something real, it gets old real fast. And then yes, the boredom will suck the energy and motivation right out of you.
      

     Does anyone know to break free of this? This is EXACTLY what has happened to me. It just don't fucking care anymore. I sit here and surf the entire day. Occasionally I'll dream up a project that takes less than a couple days to finish, but you can only do that so much. The only work I do is putting out fires (usually password reset or some bullshit) and the odd custom report for someone.
     

     when that happened to me i did two things.  1 started a massive personal project to keep my technical skills sharp and 2 started searching for a new job that would allow me to use those skills.

     

    life is too short to sit around doing nothing even if you are getting paid for it. 

     

  • George Nacht (unregistered)

    And now for something completely different, my friend has once worked for a company, which has been running continuous monitoring of the mouse movement on all the workstations, so the top management alway knew, if someone was working or wasting time. I can´t say anthing fancy about their way around this, but it is a fact, that my friend still makes all kinds of weird movements with free hand, when reading a particularly interesting magazine

  • rillip (unregistered) in reply to Anonymous
    Anonymous:

    I don't get this. Why would you do nothing? Even if they gave you nothing to do why didn't you just make something up? Write for an open source project or research a new technology, hone your skills. What's the worst that could happen? You get caught doing something rather than nothing?



    At many places, if you develop something at work/related at all to your work/with work tools/any combination of those three, the workplace is able to claim full ownership of the developed item, you are forced to sign all rights away to it, and you are forced to help develop it, at their discretion, to a marketable product.  So creating some sort of charity project completely backfires.
  • Calli Arcale (unregistered) in reply to marvin_rabbit
    marvin_rabbit:
    Alex's Manager:

    Alex, I understand that you have nothing to do, but you can't be reading books and websites -- even if they're tech related -- all day. Please limit this to lunch and outside of work. It doesn't reflect well on you or our group.

    It's even more ironic when they make sure that Solitare is not installed, so you have to bring in your own deck of cards. 

    I used to work customer service from 1:30 to 10 for a finance company which has since collapsed in disgrace after the misbehavior of the top brass became known to the stockholders.  It was pretty busy until about suppertime, and then things would really slack off.  Shortly before they went to Windows 95, the company became vicious about protecting productivity.  When they realized that some of the customer service reps were playing Solitaire, they removed the shortcut.  Being computer-savvy, I quickly showed the other reps how to find solitaire.exe on the hard drive.  So they deleted that, but I found a spot where it was still on the network.  They deleted that, and I brought in a floppy disk from home.  I mean really, ANYTHING was better than staring out the window at the deserted evening streets of St Paul for an hour between calls.

    When they went to Win95, they didn't bother removing the games, so we happily played Solitaire, Hearts, and Minesweeper.  (I also took up needlecrafts about that time, and got a lot done.)  But they did ban Internet useage, and even set up the firewall to reject all HTTP transactions.  But it didn't block telnet, so I jus telnetted to my college account and used Lynx to surf the 'web.  ;)

    Boredom can be a great motivator for creativity.
     

  • Erik (unregistered)

    Urban legend.  I don't believe this one.

  • boa (unregistered)

    Love it!

  • Corporate Cog (unregistered) in reply to WIldpeaks
    WIldpeaks:

    > we had to install a screen saver preventer here to allow a third party app to run.

    Uh, what about just disabling the screen saver ?

    We couldn't figure out how to re-enable this functionality (and make it last past the next re-boot).  Nazi IT had disabled it. 

  • (cs) in reply to Calli Arcale
    Anonymous:

    ... But they did ban Internet useage, and even set up the firewall to reject all HTTP transactions.  But it didn't block telnet, so I jus telnetted to my college account and used Lynx to surf the 'web.  ;)

    Haha, I did the same thing at a summer job way back when. They didn't block Internet usage, but they did monitor it, so the telnet-Lynx trick was great.

  • ChiefCrazyTalk (unregistered) in reply to Robert
    Anonymous:

    Anonymous:
    The real WTF is that so many people have so little to do!  At my company, programmers are working 10-12 hour days, weekend, etc. and cannot keep up with the volume of work required.  

     

    ChiefCrazyTalk, eh? Sounds like someone I know. 

     

    Really?  Who?

     

     

  • anony-mouse (unregistered)

    This one is actually pretty good.

  • G (unregistered) in reply to pbounaix

    Wow... That's handy. :) Thanks.

  • T (unregistered) in reply to Dazed

    You make an assumption that they have an internet connection that actually lets them do anything.  With that kind of resistance to movement, I would assume their net connection is so heavily filtered they can't even search on Google.

  • (cs)

    5 stars. Instant classic.

    *standing ovation, when I can get up laughing all over the floor* 

  • XenoPhage (unregistered) in reply to Dazed

    Anonymous:

    Well I've BTDT as well. And I don't see the problem. Sure, if you're in an environment such as many of those described here, where you have to get something done and every attempt to do it vaguely right gets torpedoed - I can believe that saps all motivation.

    But if you have no commitments? ISTM that no software developer with an Internet connection has any excuse for being bored.



    I have to disagree slightly..  I've BTDT as well and gotten nothing but trouble for trying to be at least slightly productive.  Th micro-managing weasel I was forced to call a boss had a bad habit of looking over your shoulder constantly.  This, in itself, was not so bad, but in typical PHB fashion, he would begin to question everything you did.  And on those rare occassions when you had an actual assignment, he would complain about the color of the font, the size of the screen, etc.  This was especially annoying when the complaints were about processes that were non-interactive.  That's more than enough to sap every last bit of motivation...
     

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