• Anon (unregistered)

    10 is less than three and one more than frist.

  • Zecc (cs)

    Dor K. is a wonderful name.

    And Will should have picked another option:

          0
          1
         10
         11
        100
        101
        110
        111
       1000
       1001
    -> 1010
       1011
       1100
       ...
    
  • pjt33 (cs)

    Do Dor K's XML tags make any sense under the assumption that they're really ASCII which has been interpreted under some one-byte Hebrew code page?

  • Muzer (unregistered) in reply to pjt33

    AFAIK that's impossible, most (if not all) code pages that exist would have ASCII (or near enough) in the first 128 characters.

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  • BlueKnot (cs)

    60625 is not in Illinois; that's the state of Chicago.

  • Aaaaaaa (unregistered) in reply to pjt33
    pjt33:
    Do Dor K's XML tags make any sense under the assumption that they're really ASCII which has been interpreted under some one-byte Hebrew code page?
    Indeed they do. For example, the tag beginning on the third line is: <data lang="he" version="2106">

    Not just tags, too; there's an &apos entity further down, also rendered in Hebrew.

  • Raedwald (cs)
    no one can show you the matrix

    But with that cash machine they can!

  • Kasper (unregistered)

    The picture says: 22721040460.80 km/

    How many m/ is that?

    Maybe it originally said km/year and was truncated. If it did say km/year it is not fast enough to cause any significant time dilation. But if it was 22721040460.80 km/day, then it would be almost 90% of the speed of light, and the time dilation would be measurable.

  • Y_F (cs) in reply to Kasper
    Kasper:
    The picture says: 22721040460.80 km/

    How many m/ is that?

    Maybe it originally said km/year and was truncated. If it did say km/year it is not fast enough to cause any significant time dilation. But if it was 22721040460.80 km/day, then it would be almost 90% of the speed of light, and the time dilation would be measurable.

    So Dor K. stands for Dor Kasper?

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  • webrunner (cs)

    That ATM is obviously expecting to be hacked fallout-style. [image]

  • notromda (cs)

    Always check 10 > 9 in your web tests, in case you forget to cast the parameter to an integer before comparing "10" to "9"

  • Garrison Fiord (unregistered)

    Wow, some programmer had to much time on his hands, if he's making a Klingon version of the ATM.

  • dbomb123 (cs)

    Nice a glimpse at the matrix! Unfortunately for us, it uses xml...

  • Nathan J Xaxson (unregistered)

    I saw that Hebrew XML error on the Israeli ATM machine once before. I actually reported it to the bank, too.

  • Smurf (unregistered)

    Today I am blue. Though my efforts grew, you saw me right through. I posted here too, but I got no blue.

    I said something new about false vs. true but that scarcely drew a halloween boo!

    I know you came through, because others are blue, so why not me too?

    What more can I do to reach out to you?

    And that's why I'm blue.

  • F (unregistered) in reply to Nathan J Xaxson
    Nathan J Xaxson:
    I saw that Hebrew XML error on the Israeli ATM machine once before. I actually reported it to the bank, too.

    And now you know how much attention they gave your report ...

  • Pista (unregistered)

    That bug in Samsung Kies is the smallest WTF of that pile of crap. I suppose other Samsung phone owners agree with me.

  • Ozz (unregistered)

    As far as I'm concerned, Illinois does not exist. Nor does any other state that does not recognize my 2nd amendment right to carry a firearm for self-protection.

    (And no, you do not have the right to police protection. At least, not unless you have been arrested.)

  • David (unregistered) in reply to Pista
    Pista:
    That bug in Samsung Kies is the smallest WTF of that pile of crap. I suppose other Samsung phone owners agree with me.

    Of course TRWTF is having a Samsung phone AND a Mac.

  • Captcha:bene (unregistered)

    Riight, because Illinois is definitely a real place. It was just a funny mistake, everyone! Move along sheepl... I mean people.

    Why have we never seen any videos recorded in Illinois then? All the publicly available videos that were claimed to be from there have been proven to be recorded somewhere else. Including that government-sponsored propaganda movie, Chicago. Have you actually seen Chicago in real life? Thought so.

    Furthermore if you examine all public satellite data, you can clearly see how the "Illinois" zone has been crudely composed from pictures from the rest of states (be careful when doing this, "they" can see which zones you download). Sorry people but Illinois does not exist.

    P.S. You (yes, I'm talking to you) can delete this comment, or leave it and publicly ridicule it, but you trust me, the truth always comes out.

  • Lone Marauder (unregistered) in reply to BlueKnot
    BlueKnot:
    60625 is not in Illinois; that's the state of Chicago.

    I thought it was "Chicagoland". That's what everyone refers to it as...

  • Tayrtahn (unregistered)

    I've never seen a soda machine with one big screen like that. Do you order your drinks using it as a touchscreen? If so, that's pretty awesome - I like living in the future!

  • jay (unregistered) in reply to dbomb123
    dbomb123:
    Nice a glimpse at the matrix! Unfortunately for us, it uses xml...

    And it uses Hebrew. Now we know why Israel keeps winning all these Arab-Israeli conflicts ...

  • Kinda Kool (unregistered) in reply to Tayrtahn

    A few places in the Boston, MA area have those. They're OK, but the typical installation seems to have a surface about 1 inch above the touch surface that makes the touches less than precise.

  • jay (unregistered) in reply to Ozz
    Ozz:
    As far as I'm concerned, Illinois does not exist. Nor does any other state that does not recognize my 2nd amendment right to carry a firearm for self-protection.

    (And no, you do not have the right to police protection. At least, not unless you have been arrested.)

    The purpose of law and the police is to protect criminals from the over-reaction of homeowners and shopkeepers. Without the law, many of these people would buy guns, and when the criminals came to attack them or rob them the shopkeepers would kill the criminals, people would learn that crime doesn't pay, and crime would plummet. Even if the criminals managed to kill the shopkeepers nine times out of ten, there are a lot more peaceful shopkeepers than there are criminals, and the criminals are out looking for trouble while the shopkeepers are avoiding it. No criminal would survive long.

    But that would mean that a young person who sets out on a life of crime would "not have the chance to realize his full potential as a human being". (To quote from a Supreme Court decision blocking the execution of a 17-year-old who murdered an old woman for kicks.)

    We need these laws to protect criminals so that they have a chance to reform and lead productive lives. Or at least, so that the penalty for their crimes is not excessive.

    </commentary type="social">

  • bannedfromcoding (cs) in reply to Captcha:bene
    Why have we never seen any videos recorded in Illinois then? All the publicly available videos that were claimed to be from there have been proven to be recorded somewhere else. Including that government-sponsored propaganda movie, Chicago.

    (Parts of) Blues Brothers?

  • da Doctah (cs)

    Maybe your birthday is in month 00 in the Jewish calendar (which, to be fair, I didn't realize used zero-based indexing).

  • jay (unregistered)

    Seriously, though, why is the ATM screen a WTF? It does not seem all that surprising that an ATM in Israel would be programmed using Hebrew versions of programming and markup languages. Does everyone in the world program in English? Do people whose native language uses a non-Latin alphabet have to still write their tags in English and then switch alphabets to write content? How awkward. As an English-speaking person, I'd hate to have to write HTML with all my tags in Hebrew.

  • Paul (unregistered) in reply to jay
    jay:
    Ozz:
    As far as I'm concerned, Illinois does not exist. Nor does any other state that does not recognize my 2nd amendment right to carry a firearm for self-protection.

    (And no, you do not have the right to police protection. At least, not unless you have been arrested.)

    The purpose of law and the police is to protect criminals from the over-reaction of homeowners and shopkeepers. Without the law, many of these people would buy guns, and when the criminals came to attack them or rob them the shopkeepers would kill the criminals, people would learn that crime doesn't pay, and crime would plummet. Even if the criminals managed to kill the shopkeepers nine times out of ten, there are a lot more peaceful shopkeepers than there are criminals, and the criminals are out looking for trouble while the shopkeepers are avoiding it. No criminal would survive long.

    But that would mean that a young person who sets out on a life of crime would "not have the chance to realize his full potential as a human being". (To quote from a Supreme Court decision blocking the execution of a 17-year-old who murdered an old woman for kicks.)

    We need these laws to protect criminals so that they have a chance to reform and lead productive lives. Or at least, so that the penalty for their crimes is not excessive.

    </commentary type="social">

    Well, you've almost got it. Just think a little further. When the criminals are deleted (as a natural consequence of their career choice) we won't need so many laws, cops, courts, jails, etc. A whole empire would disappear.

    The cops need the crooks, to justify their existence. That's why serious reforms will ever be allowed to happen.

  • Billy (unregistered) in reply to jay
    jay:
    Seriously, though, why is the ATM screen a WTF? It does not seem all that surprising that an ATM in Israel would be programmed using Hebrew versions of programming and markup languages. Does everyone in the world program in English? Do people whose native language uses a non-Latin alphabet have to still write their tags in English and then switch alphabets to write content? How awkward. As an English-speaking person, I'd hate to have to write HTML with all my tags in Hebrew.
    The Bible plainly shows that Jesus spoke English. The Hebrews need to get with the program.
  • Gurth (cs) in reply to jay
    jay:
    Does everyone in the world program in English?
    I get that impression quite often. Not that I see someone else's code a lot, but the times I do see the coding efforts of other Dutch people, they usually seem to be using English variable names etc. even in programs written for an audience of one. Me, I have this habit of using Dutch-language variable names in code intended to be viewed just by me or for programs aimed at a Dutch audience, but I suspect I'm the exception.

    However, since someone above commented that there's an ' in Hebrew letters in the file, I suspect the ATM uses a Hebrew codepage to display what were intended to be Latin XML codes. Seems kind of awkward entering Hebrew bank names into the file that way, though.

  • Coyne (cs) in reply to dbomb123
    dbomb123:
    Nice a glimpse at the matrix! Unfortunately for us, it uses xml...

    O-M-G the matrix is doomed...and it'll take us with it!!

  • PseudoBovine (unregistered) in reply to jay
    jay:
    As an English-speaking person, I'd hate to have to write HTML with all my tags in Hebrew.

    While not a web programmer per se, I am a scientist and one can show a priori that Homo sapiens have difficulty using a technical foreign phrase in the context of native ones, and vice versa. When technical terms are included verbatim in otherwise native phrasing, people venture into conceptual terra incognita, and succumb to a paralysis akin to rigor mortis.

    For example, no one was able to understand the previous paragraph. Quod erat demonstrandum.

  • Ozz (unregistered) in reply to Paul
    Paul:
    jay:
    Ozz:
    As far as I'm concerned, Illinois does not exist. Nor does any other state that does not recognize my 2nd amendment right to carry a firearm for self-protection.

    (And no, you do not have the right to police protection. At least, not unless you have been arrested.)

    The purpose of law and the police is to protect criminals from the over-reaction of homeowners and shopkeepers. Without the law, many of these people would buy guns, and when the criminals came to attack them or rob them the shopkeepers would kill the criminals, people would learn that crime doesn't pay, and crime would plummet. Even if the criminals managed to kill the shopkeepers nine times out of ten, there are a lot more peaceful shopkeepers than there are criminals, and the criminals are out looking for trouble while the shopkeepers are avoiding it. No criminal would survive long.

    But that would mean that a young person who sets out on a life of crime would "not have the chance to realize his full potential as a human being". (To quote from a Supreme Court decision blocking the execution of a 17-year-old who murdered an old woman for kicks.)

    We need these laws to protect criminals so that they have a chance to reform and lead productive lives. Or at least, so that the penalty for their crimes is not excessive.

    </commentary type="social">

    Well, you've almost got it. Just think a little further. When the criminals are deleted (as a natural consequence of their career choice) we won't need so many laws, cops, courts, jails, etc. A whole empire would disappear.

    The cops need the crooks, to justify their existence. That's why serious reforms will ever be allowed to happen.

    Sad but true. I'm doing my part though. I'm a state-certified firearms instructor. When I'm not in my day job (Linux Server / Security Admin) I'm teaching concealed carry classes.

  • O T (unregistered)

    Help! My supervisor has just reached that point of understanding that you can't fit 100 gallons of work in a 55 gallon barrel. So to "help" me, I'm getting two brand-new college undergraduates, a project manager, and some additional assistance from operations. Which, of course, means half my day will be spent helping them help me.

    Any solid strategies you can suggest? Bring in a temporary BOFH perhaps?

  • Ryan (unregistered) in reply to dbomb123
    dbomb123:
    Nice a glimpse at the matrix! Unfortunately for us, it uses xml...

    BUMP

  • kbiel (unregistered) in reply to jay
    jay:
    Seriously, though, why is the ATM screen a WTF? It does not seem all that surprising that an ATM in Israel would be programmed using Hebrew versions of programming and markup languages. Does everyone in the world program in English?

    Yep, no WTF there at all. Everybody, including the 98% of the population who do not write code for a living, prefer interacting with raw HTML.

  • ¯\(°_o)/¯ I DUNNO LOL (unregistered)

    TRWTF is that the Hebrew characters are left-to-right instead of right-to-left, amirite?

  • AGray (unregistered)

    Everyone -knows- Illinois was never part of the universe in the first place.

  • kbiel (unregistered) in reply to BlueKnot
    BlueKnot:
    60625 is not in Illinois; that's the state of Chicago.

    No, you do not get to push Chicago off on the rest of us. You either claim them or give them to the Canadians.

  • PedanticCurmudgeon (cs) in reply to PseudoBovine
    PseudoBovine:
    jay:
    As an English-speaking person, I'd hate to have to write HTML with all my tags in Hebrew.

    While not a web programmer per se, I am a scientist and one can show a priori that Homo sapiens have difficulty using a technical foreign phrase in the context of native ones, and vice versa. When technical terms are included verbatim in otherwise native phrasing, people venture into conceptual terra incognita, and succumb to a paralysis akin to rigor mortis.

    For example, no one was able to understand the previous paragraph. Quod erat demonstrandum.

    3/10, but it might have worked without the second paragraph.
  • Captcha:capio (unregistered) in reply to jay
    jay:
    As an English-speaking person, I'd hate to have to write HTML with all my tags in Hebrew.
    Aving to write keywords in Englix is not dat bad, wat's really bad is languages/systems tat don't let you use "special" caracters in comments or variable names.

    It's annoying because den you ave to invent alternate spellings for words. To understand it, try writing witout using de letter"h".

  • Captcha:ingenium (unregistered) in reply to Tayrtahn
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  • Gunslinger (unregistered) in reply to PseudoBovine
    PseudoBovine:
    jay:
    As an English-speaking person, I'd hate to have to write HTML with all my tags in Hebrew.

    While not a web programmer per se, I am a scientist and one can show a priori that Homo sapiens have difficulty using a technical foreign phrase in the context of native ones, and vice versa. When technical terms are included verbatim in otherwise native phrasing, people venture into conceptual terra incognita, and succumb to a paralysis akin to rigor mortis.

    For example, no one was able to understand the previous paragraph. Quod erat demonstrandum.

    Apparently, you're not a very good scientist.

  • Watson (cs) in reply to Ozz
    Ozz:
    As far as I'm concerned, Illinois does not exist. Nor does any other state that does not recognize my 2nd amendment right to carry a firearm for self-protection.

    (And no, you do not have the right to police protection. At least, not unless you have been arrested.)

    Assuming you're a U.S. citizen, there is no such thing as your "2nd amendment right to carry a firearm for self-protection". You do however have a 2nd Amendment right to carry a firearm for the purposes of being a member of the National Guard.

  • Ben (unregistered) in reply to Watson
    Watson:
    Ozz:
    As far as I'm concerned, Illinois does not exist. Nor does any other state that does not recognize my 2nd amendment right to carry a firearm for self-protection.

    (And no, you do not have the right to police protection. At least, not unless you have been arrested.)

    Assuming you're a U.S. citizen, there is no such thing as your "2nd amendment right to carry a firearm for self-protection". You do however have a 2nd Amendment right to carry a firearm for the purposes of being a member of the National Guard.

    Rights don't come from an old document. Rights are something you have, innately. The document merely recognizes some of them, to make it abundantly clear that the newly created federal government is not granted the power to take them away.

    Interesting how that worked out...

    The founders also thought that when a government gets abusive, you have not only the right but the duty to replace it. And no, not by joining the National Guard of the Nation that is abusing you.

  • Really Dude (unregistered) in reply to Kasper
    Kasper:
    The picture says: 22721040460.80 km/

    How many m/ is that?

    Maybe it originally said km/year and was truncated. If it did say km/year it is not fast enough to cause any significant time dilation. But if it was 22721040460.80 km/day, then it would be almost 90% of the speed of light, and the time dilation would be measurable.

    Given that the field right next to it says "AVG" and "km/h" I think we can safely conclude that the data under "MAX" is referring to the same units...

  • Wazza (unregistered)

    I call shenanigans. I thought Jewish people hoard their money or keep it in gold and valuables. They would have no use for a teller machine

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