• Captain (unregistered) in reply to CATS
    CATS:
    ALL YOUR BASE ARE BELONG TO US
    What you say?
  • Pat (unregistered) in reply to Alex G.

    "Those WTFs aren't exactly front page material. "

    Good thing there's only one page then, hmm?

  • (cs) in reply to Thomas
    Thomas:
    My ASL is rusty, but I think what she is signing is "If you are blind, please read the instructions for vision disabled individuals. If you are deaf, please call 555-7734 and speak to Terri - she will be happy to read the web pages to you."
    I may be slightly drink at the moment, but this is the funniest thing I've ever read on this site. I bow to Thomas.
  • Harruphf (unregistered) in reply to Dividius
    Dividius:
    Could anyone else get sound for the video? I think something is wrong with it.

    That was my thought. I imagine it went something like this; someone felt the page was a little sterile and wanted to add a personal touch. So they add a welcome video. Since they are government, they add sign language to the video. Somehow the sound gets broken.

  • Bobble (unregistered) in reply to Don.
    Don.:
    I just don't like the phrase "American" since there's two whole continents that could describe. Clearly this is an international audience so I thought I'd go all P.C. and make myself look like a weirdo.

    There are two continents called America? And here I was thinking there were North Americans and South Americans.

    Well, gotta get on a plane. Gonna go see my Dakotan and Carolinian friends.

  • (cs) in reply to WeatherGod
    WeatherGod:
    SkittlesAreYum:
    Reading these comments I'm surprised to learn that a lot of deaf people aren't taught to read well. Why is that? This seems like a major disadvantage, yet it's something I would have thought they could do. If I was deaf you bet I would be learning how to read normal English. I could be missing something (and probably am, so let me know) but it doesn't seem like it'd be that hard to teach someone to read English (or whatever your native tongue is) once you've taught them sign language. In fact, I would think learning to read is actually MORE important than sign language.

    Actually, that was the prevailing view about 30-40 years ago. But think of it this way... For hearing people, you learn to speak and listen first, and then you learn how to read. Deaf people learn signing first, instead. Then, because reading English is based on the spoken English, they are at a disadvantage for learning how to read English.

    I don't know what the prevailing view is today. But I do know that, for me at least, it is WAY WAY easier to learn how to read/write a new language than to speak it.

  • (cs)

    Anyone check out the fire station's website? It seems to use a technology called (suggested by the extension) XTML, for which Google gives me as the first result this monstrosity, which I REALLY REALLY hope is not the same XTML...

  • (cs) in reply to Bobble
    Bobble:
    Don.:
    I just don't like the phrase "American" since there's two whole continents that could describe. Clearly this is an international audience so I thought I'd go all P.C. and make myself look like a weirdo.

    There are two continents called America? And here I was thinking there were North Americans and South Americans.

    Well, gotta get on a plane. Gonna go see my Dakotan and Carolinian friends.

    Yes, there are also two "Europeas", one in the west near UK and the one in the east (that`s to the right of the west one). Also there are two Asias, the one in the middle, and the one far away. (that's waaaay to the right).

    I also read there are two Africas.. the normal Africa and South Africa, but I never seem to find that one on the map.

    Oh, and forget about central America, they are not a continent, they are not even part of a continent. They do not exist. They are just an illusion that is going to disseapear under the sea when the poles melt and the penguins die.

  • Chris (unregistered)

    Guys, your missing the point with #1. Its a cool video, it even looks like she is holding a big firemans hose in the capture! lol Maybe im just easliy amused?

    Anyway, CAPTCHA (groan) smile, well it did make me!

  • dkf (unregistered) in reply to niteice
    niteice:
    Anyone check out the fire station's website? It seems to use a technology called (suggested by the extension) XTML, for which Google gives me as the first result this monstrosity, which I REALLY REALLY hope is not the same XTML...
    At a guess it's the other one (Extensible Telephony Markup Language) but who can really tell these days?
  • boB (unregistered)

    As some people have alluded to, largely because of the poor diagnosis rate of deafness in school children, there are a lot of deaf people who were failed by the education system, (accused of being lazy, stupid or with some fashionable learning disability) and are unable to read at a standard level.

    I've been asked to help on projects in the past to sign text, as many people can sign, but can't read. So #1 is in actual fact a really good example of accessible technology.

  • CATS (unregistered) in reply to Captain
    Captain:
    CATS:
    ALL YOUR BASE ARE BELONG TO US
    What you say?

    You have no chance to survive make your time. Ha Ha Ha Ha

  • jd (unregistered) in reply to ViciousPsicle
    ViciousPsicle:
    It took me a minute to figure out why #1 is a WTF. Clearly, I haven't had my morning coffee yet.

    this is because for most deaf people English is not their first language (bsl is).

    i know because i challanged this.

  • bassaf (unregistered) in reply to CATS
    CATS:
    ALL YOUR BASE ARE BELONG TO US

    I was hoping someone would make that connection. Meow!

  • Cpt. Charisma (unregistered)

    I love ECS kit. It's usually not my OS, that not support. Usually, processor clock not support for me.

  • Anonymous Pedant (unregistered)

    Does anyone actually use Signing Exact English?

  • sweavo (unregistered)

    I hope they have recorded audio of what she's signing for those of us who don't sign and therefore are missing the content in that whole other language. There may be valuable nuances that don't come across in written english.

    And do they send round a guy to click for you if you don't have fingers? How to we select that?

  • (cs) in reply to sweavo
    sweavo:
    I hope they have recorded audio of what she's signing for those of us who don't sign and therefore are missing the content in that whole other language. There may be valuable nuances that don't come across in written english.

    And do they send round a guy to click for you if you don't have fingers? How to we select that?

    Use one of these.

  • mattg (unregistered)

    My wife's on a full scholarship to a prestigous school for speech pathology, with an emphasis in early intervention in childhood deafness... From what I've gathered from her, this is not a WTF.

    Language development happens EARLY (a lot happens before school starts) and adults don't often catch it and get kids the therapy they may need/want early enough. yes, ASL is very different than english, and reading can be hard because of that, and all the language the development the brain may have missed out on before people noticed a child was deaf.

    Nobody's mentioned the "deaf culture" yet, either. This isn't something I know a ton about, but deaf people don't often view themselves as being "disabled." They have their own language and may have a close-knit community of other deaf people. (Perhaps there are a lot of deaf folks near that fire department, and there's actually a lot of people who appreciate this) There's a big debate about this, because sometimes the parents of deaf children may not want their kids to get cochlear implants,etc... because they won't be fully a part of either the hearing or deaf communities. Like I said, I'm no expert, but its a more complex issue than "deaf=can't hear." Not a WTF.

  • Lost in OR (unregistered)

    I know ASL and the BSL is just that BS, drop the L. Ever try to understand them finger spell, they look more retarded than 5 deaf people trying to sing "Oh Christmas Tree". Picture that sound!!!

    As far as WTF, please tell me your not that far out of the loop or I might just LMFAO.

    BTW the adds were great, keep up the good work, speaking of work I better go do some.

  • Lost in OR (unregistered)

    Okay, just read that, next time there's a fire forget the siren, just duck tape a deaf person to the front of the Firetruck and sign the sign for siren. LOL

  • JamJar (unregistered) in reply to Zygo

    Or even better, BSL!

  • AdamV (unregistered)

    Other groups of people who may use signing are those with learning disabilities such as severe cases of Downs' Syndrome. Signing can be easier for them than speech, and they sometimes have problems with reading too, in which case this would really help them.

  • iWantToKeepAnon (unregistered)

    From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weekend_Update#In_the_beginning

    And now the top story for the hearing impaired ...

    Chase would sometimes repeat the top story at the end of the segment, while Morris simply cupped his mouth and shouted the headline more loudly.

  • ChiefCrazyTalk (unregistered) in reply to Dude

    All your base are belong to us.

  • ChiefCrazyTalk (unregistered) in reply to Dude

    All your base are belong to us.

  • ChiefCrazyTalk (unregistered) in reply to Dude

    All your base are belong to us.

  • Anna (unregistered) in reply to Daniel Pope

    thank god there is atleast one smart person here.

  • kastein (unregistered)

    haha, I have that same PL-2303 USB to serial adapter. It's a fairly good piece of hardware, and works exactly like it's supposed to (you can even force it to use an identifier in COM1-COM4 if your ancient software is unhappy trying to use COM5+), but the installer, readme, manuals, and linux install guide are the worst sort of engrish I have ever seen.

  • Actually (unregistered) in reply to Daniel Pope

    If someone doesn't understand English, they are not likely to understand the American Sign Language, either. Sign language varies from country to country just like spoken language.

  • Cloak (unregistered) in reply to Thomas
    Thomas:
    My ASL is rusty, but I think what she is signing is "If you are blind, please read the instructions for vision disabled individuals. If you are deaf, please call 555-7734 and speak to Terri - she will be happy to read the web pages to you."

    Xcellent

    Captcha: * That's not it

  • Sam Hocevar (unregistered)

    I am truly baffled by the number of people believing #1 is a WTF. To me it's like laughing at deaf people because they have trouble learning a written language.

  • (cs) in reply to Sam Hocevar
    Sam Hocevar:
    I am truly baffled by the number of people believing #1 is a WTF. To me it's like laughing at deaf people because they have trouble learning a written language.

    They're deaf, not blind. They're also using the internet. Presumably they're capable of reading if they're finding the site.

    An audio track reading out the words would make more sense.

    508 requirements require the ability to understand the content while missing either vision or sound. You're allowed to assume the blind have a text reader.

    • IE multimedia files should have captions/subtitles, you should use alt tags so the blind can tell what a picture is supposed to be. Mouse should not be required to operate the site.

    As for the deaf community - I've heard about it, but I do consider it cruel to deliberately disable your children so they can be a part of it. I think that any parents that do that should pay back all aid they've received for being disabled.

  • Kevin Triplett (unregistered)

    From my friend's friend who apparently knows American Sign Language:

    Cool way of doing that. I did not understand the person signing. It was a foreign language. CSD uses same technology. I like that idea. I want to learn how to do that.

    eyes open & thumbs up, Ed

  • Kevin Triplett (unregistered) in reply to Kevin Triplett

    An update from the Texas Governor's Committee on People with Disabilities (I do ocassional work for them):

    Some folks think it's good to do this for the portion of folks who are deaf who have low English skills -- sign is their first language, etc.

  • WTFReader (unregistered) in reply to EvanED

    Oh, I get it - all the rules for silent letters?

  • NP (unregistered)

    At first glance, it does seem a bit odd that someone is signing the words that a deaf person could see anyway, but due to the fact that deaf people can't 'hear' what they are reading in their heads (because they don't know what a word sounds like), it makes it very difficult for them to read, hence the sign language - it's putting it in their own language, so to speak.

    NP (Non-deaf holder of CACDP Stage One British Sign Language qualification)

  • bd (unregistered) in reply to WeatherGod
    WeatherGod:
    Then, because reading English is based on the spoken English
    Us foreigners most definitely disagree.
  • Henry Miller (unregistered) in reply to bd
    bd:
    WeatherGod:
    Then, because reading English is based on the spoken English
    Us foreigners most definitely disagree.
    While writen English is not near as close to spoken English as Written Spanish is to Spoken Spanish, there is a relation. (In Spanish each letter has exactly one sound, and each sound has exactly one letter) The rules are very complex and full of exceptions, but you can generally sound out English words once you know the rules.

    Ensligh spelling baddly needs reform.

  • David Walker (unregistered) in reply to Don.
    Don.:
    Anyhow I'm deaf in the US and I can barely follow along, ...

    You're deaf in the US? You should move somewhere else then!

  • David Walker (unregistered) in reply to bd
    bd:
    WeatherGod:
    Then, because reading English is based on the spoken English
    Us foreigners most definitely disagree.

    That should be "We foreigners most definitely disagree", not "Us foreigners". You wouldn't say "Us disagree".

  • Eric D (unregistered)

    I recently learned that there was a reason for the woman signing the text: this is actually intended for kids. Deaf people learn to "sign" and that is a different language than English. When they have to learn reading, they also have to learn English and its spelling/grammar.

  • Smash (unregistered) in reply to David Walker
    David Walker:
    bd:
    Us foreigners most definitely disagree.

    That should be "We foreigners most definitely disagree", not "Us foreigners". You wouldn't say "Us disagree".

    I agree, but maybe what he meant was "U.S. foreigners most definitely disagree"

    Still, he should double-check his entries to avoid ambiguations and misspelling. And so should everyone else.

  • Tathar (unregistered)

    That driver for PL-2303 is for a knockoff brand Nokia CA-42 cable. I've never heard of it used for GPS. I just deleted the driver installer today after realizing that I bought a $1 cable that's not going to work no matter how much I beg the driver.

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