• F (unregistered) in reply to puzzled of england
    puzzled of england:
    I just don't get why anybody would stay at a job where they are not given a comfortable environment to work in? Not happy? move on. Treated badly? move on. Simple.
    Simple if you find an other job. Not simple today here (Europe)
  • Frank (unregistered) in reply to F
    F:
    puzzled of england:
    I just don't get why anybody would stay at a job where they are not given a comfortable environment to work in? Not happy? move on. Treated badly? move on. Simple.
    Simple if you find an other job. Not simple today here (Europe)
    But wait! Europe is the world leader in glorious socialism, high taxes, workers benefits etc. How is it possible that everyone isn't wealthy and happy?
  • F (unregistered) in reply to Frank

    Almost everyone is in good health. That is the point. No tuberculosis, not the same rate of teen mothers, not the same rate of young child death. And I do not think it is easyier to find a job in the USA during crisis...

  • polanski (unregistered) in reply to Pero Perić

    Not really cold, but here it's against the law. And I'm serious: labor regulations state that temperature in office areas has to be at least 18°C. One good side of what some idiots call socialism.

  • Nagesh (unregistered)

    We ain't worry aboat too cold workplace in my job.

    [image]
  • (cs) in reply to XXXXX
    XXXXX:
    In the future, mankind will develop ways to spin and weave wool from sheep into torso-shaped wrappings. These wrappings (I'll call them sweaters) will insulate jackasses. Others will build on this innovation with hand-shaped wrappings (call them gloves). At such a time, jackasses who whine about the thermostat can regulate their own bodies' temperatures.

    Until then, this seems like a reasonable substitute.

    Good luck being a decent typist with gloves on!

  • Sayer (unregistered) in reply to Frank
    Frank:
    F:
    puzzled of england:
    I just don't get why anybody would stay at a job where they are not given a comfortable environment to work in? Not happy? move on. Treated badly? move on. Simple.
    Simple if you find an other job. Not simple today here (Europe)
    But wait! Europe is the world leader in glorious socialism, high taxes, workers benefits etc. How is it possible that everyone isn't wealthy and happy?

    I know this one! Is it because that's not a reasonable situation to expect anywhere on the planet and your question is deliberately hyperbolic, for the sake of being a smug shithead?

  • (cs) in reply to CRT Styled Heat
    CRT Styled Heat:
    Ohhh ohh I know another way. Request a bunch of OLD CRT style monitors. You know, because they're older and obviously cheaper and literal OVENS when used in a concert.

    I've never been to a CRT concert before. Loved their first album, though.

  • (cs) in reply to Loren Pechtel
    Loren Pechtel:

    Good luck being a decent typist with gloves on!

    You're likely to type faster with thin gloves than typing on a glass surface.

    Maybe they can justify an IPad for work purposes. The actual purpose is a lap/hand warmer.

  • Frank (unregistered) in reply to Sayer
    Sayer:
    Frank:
    F:
    puzzled of england:
    I just don't get why anybody would stay at a job where they are not given a comfortable environment to work in? Not happy? move on. Treated badly? move on. Simple.
    Simple if you find an other job. Not simple today here (Europe)
    But wait! Europe is the world leader in glorious socialism, high taxes, workers benefits etc. How is it possible that everyone isn't wealthy and happy?

    I know this one! Is it because that's not a reasonable situation to expect anywhere on the planet and your question is deliberately hyperbolic, for the sake of being a smug shithead?

    Or maybe it is because I suspected all along that the lies were, well, lies, and this seemed like an opportunity to point that out.

  • (cs) in reply to Sayer
    Sayer:
    I know this one! Is it because that's not a reasonable situation to expect anywhere on the planet and your question is deliberately hyperbolic, for the sake of being a smug shithead?
    I think someone may be projecting here...
  • ceiswyn (unregistered) in reply to Frank
    Frank:
    Or maybe it is because I suspected all along that the lies were, well, lies, and this seemed like an opportunity to point that out.

    No, I don't think that's the reason.

    On the bright side, Stephen Hawking is still alive and not facing any of these 'death panels' I hear so much about from the US :)

    A couple of employers ago, I worked in an office that only had one aircon setting for the entire building. There was one floor where everyone used desktops and they had the sun on them all day; and then there was us, where we all used desktops and were in the shade of other buildings.

    Come summertime, we used to freeze; until we found a screwdriver that we could use to open the locked windows and let the heat in.

  • Frank (unregistered) in reply to ceiswyn
    ceiswyn:
    Frank:
    Or maybe it is because I suspected all along that the lies were, well, lies, and this seemed like an opportunity to point that out.
    No, I don't think that's the reason.
    So why do you think many people oppose socialism? Is it just because we hate to be happy and healthy and well taken care of? Or is it maybe because some people sincerely doubt that you can keep increasing spending and draining the rich forever because they will never run out of money, or for that matter simply leave?
  • (cs)

    I'm sorry to break it to you guys, but the "Alex is dead" guy passed away last night. He was reading the Darwin Awards, and decided to try a few of them (apparently it's really not a good idea to juggle live hand grenades). He has no known family and certainly no friends, so there's no need to keep anyone in your thoughts. Have a nice day.

  • tragomaskhalos (unregistered) in reply to David Emery

    Maybe he was = placebo effect !

  • Not really (unregistered) in reply to PedanticCurmudgeon
    PedanticCurmudgeon:
    I'm sorry to break it to you guys, but the "Alex is dead" guy passed away last night. He was reading the Darwin Awards, and decided to try a few of them (apparently it's really not a good idea to juggle live hand grenades). He has no known family and certainly no friends, so there's no need to keep anyone in your thoughts. Have a nice day.
    Funny I was just reading the Darwin Awards (and daydreaming about what might happen to my favorite web developers) when I noticed a brand new entry today! So pleased to learn it was one of our own!
  • (cs) in reply to Someone
    Someone:
    My Suggestion: Use multiple threads, so that every core of a multi-core CPU is used. At best start as many threads as you have cpu cores.

    I did exactly this, for the exact same reason as the Story Submitter. Except, I spawned 64 threads each solving the Towers of Hanoi problem each with 1,000 discs.

    In Java.

    I never had to worry about heat.

  • El Ka-Ben (unregistered) in reply to Daniel
    Daniel:
    I have no problem with employers banning cheap space heaters. There are two ways that they generally get used and neither are good:
    1. Under desks with papers and all sorts of crap. This is a fire hazard and probably invalidates the fire insurance (most things do).
    2. On the floor, a short distance away from the desk, but in a pretty random position defined by the length of the cable. This is a often a trip hazard.

    Portable air-con is almost as bad. Idiots love portable air-con units because idiots think they contain magic ice gnomes that make coldness out of butterbeans (or something). Hence idiots will cheerfully plonk a portable air-con unit down in an office, not even bother to connect up the duct, and refuse to believe that it makes more heat than it "makes cold". Oh, and the stupid things tend to leak. (The air-con units, not the idiots, although...)

    But before we blame the employees for their insubordination and poor grasp of thermodynamics you have to look at the wider set up. You can't expect employees to respect the wisdom, sanity and fairness of an employer that sets their thermostats slightly more than 3C below the UK legal minimum for an indoor workplace. That implies that the guy in charge is just as dumb as the twits with their own heaters and air-con units, just with even more power to bugger everybody up. If the employer refuses to provide even an approximation to a usable working environment (and 13C is not such an approximation) then the employees are going to do whatever they can to keep warm and keep working.

    The specific WTF here is that spending money on ad-hoc electric heating has to be vastly more expensive than using the building wide gas or oil fired heating system that the boss is too mean to switch on. Joule for Joule, oil or gas is probably less than half the price of electricity.

    The wider WTF is that I have yet to come across an office where the climate control has ever worked right. More often than not there are competing heating and cooling systems which end up fighting to the death. I suspect that the vendors secretly quite like this because it offers lots of opportunities for new sales. Even when that crime against the environment and the economy is avoided the radiators, vents and thermostats are nearly always in the wrong places so that the climate control system is either misled into doing something silly or just can't avoid making a mixture of hot and cold spots. On the odd occasion that the system is not intrinsically broken, some bozo will come along and bugger it up manually by fiddling with it randomly, just to make good and sure that nobody is happy. If you are really lucky you might get legionnaires disease too.

    That has always been my experience in the US as well.

    A++ Where can I subscribe to your newsletter.

  • Sayer (unregistered) in reply to ted
    ted:
    Anonymous:

    I didn't even click on the link and knew it was some fag linking thedailywtf. It's not clever. It's not funny. Just the word "gloves" with a link under it and the short, useless, one sentence post shows the kind of unoriginal, uninspired, idiot is making the post.

    It was funny to read when it came out. It's even funny when clicking on the Random Article button on the site and seeing it. It's NOT funny when someone links to it from a one-sentence post and thinks they're so fucking clever to have discovered thedailywtf.

    You probably still use lmgtfy and think you're so damn clever.

    It means in real life, you're an unoriginal hipster doofus.

    Got anything to do with sanitizing inputs to a SQL database, etc.? Link to Bobby Tables. Got a nerd-project slow-ass turing machine? Like a minecraft logic circuit from redstone? Link to the one where it's some guy in Alaska making a heater out of a bunch of servers. Got a story about password security or encryption? Link to the one where the BOFH beat the password out of the guy with a wrench.

    Fuck off. You're not clever.

    umad bro?

  • The Iceman (unregistered)

    A few years ago, I worked for a government contractor, in government-leased space, where we did have some control over the thermostat, but managed to freeze ourselves. We did this by parking a LaserJet II under the thermostat, where it kept the thermostat nice and toasty till somebody had an Aha moment.

    We did not so easily resolve the summer problem of tech staff with a southern window and PHB with a northern one. Or rather, we solved to the satisfaction of one person only.

    But the LaserJet solution suggests to me that some approach involving cold packs should be been possible.

    Captcha: laoreet, a rope used in SE Asia.

  • Lorne Kates (unregistered) in reply to PedanticCurmudgeon
    PedanticCurmudgeon:
    I'm sorry to break it to you guys, but the "Alex is dead" guy passed away last night. He was reading the Darwin Awards, and decided to try a few of them (apparently it's really not a good idea to juggle live hand grenades). He has no known family and certainly no friends, so there's no need to keep anyone in your thoughts. Have a nice day.

    Remy Martin? Good riddance. I've had to put up with his dumb articles for quite a bit longer than I would have liked.

  • Sayer (unregistered) in reply to PedanticCurmudgeon
    PedanticCurmudgeon:
    Sayer:
    I know this one! Is it because that's not a reasonable situation to expect anywhere on the planet and your question is deliberately hyperbolic, for the sake of being a smug shithead?
    I think someone may be projecting here...

    Regardless of whether I'm a smug shithead or not, declaring Socialism a failure because it hasn't created an impossible utopian scenario is really just complaining about an ideology you don't like in the stupidest possible way. Either you're an idiot who thinks there's a scenario where a particular ideology will create an instant utopia, or else you're being transparently hyperbolic for the sake of ridicule.

    Bonus points for pretending 100% wealth and happiness was ever promised.

  • Dan Smith (unregistered)

    If there is an alternate source of heat, wouldn't the main heat simply stop functioning if it is registering a temperature above the threshhold?

    In that case, unless these computers are capable of providing A LOT of heat, all that would happen is that the temperature would still remain at the thermostat setting, and the main heat would be working less of the time.

  • Dan Smith (unregistered) in reply to J

    I remember IRQ this was for COM3 and IRQ that was for COM 4, and where was the modem on, and so on.

    But that was 20 years ago.

    Whatever happened to IRQ's in the Windows 7 world?

  • (cs) in reply to Sayer
    Sayer:
    Regardless of whether I'm a smug shithead or not, declaring Socialism a failure because it hasn't created an impossible utopian scenario is really just complaining about an ideology you don't like in the stupidest possible way. Either you're an idiot who thinks there's a scenario where a particular ideology will create an instant utopia, or else you're being transparently hyperbolic for the sake of ridicule.

    Bonus points for pretending 100% wealth and happiness was ever promised.

    O.K., now I'm sure someone is projecting...(Hint: I wasn't the one who declared Socialism a failure.)

  • Meep (unregistered) in reply to Sayer
    Sayer:
    PedanticCurmudgeon:
    Sayer:
    I know this one! Is it because that's not a reasonable situation to expect anywhere on the planet and your question is deliberately hyperbolic, for the sake of being a smug shithead?
    I think someone may be projecting here...

    Regardless of whether I'm a smug shithead or not, declaring Socialism a failure because it hasn't created an impossible utopian scenario is really just complaining about an ideology you don't like in the stupidest possible way.

    But it is, fundamentally, a utopian ideology: the historical dialectic predicts an relentless march towards a worker's paradise. It's not just that socialism is supposed to bring that, but that socialism is merely one step in an inevitable process. Part of the justification of socialism is that we should go along with it simply because it will happen whether we like it or not.

    The fact that nothing like that has ever materialized, and the fact that all implementations of socialism have been utter failures. In backwards society, we've seen crushing famine and outright mass murder of the populace. In advanced societies, we've seen vibrant economies grind to a halt, and demographic suicide (birthrates below replacement).

    There has never been the slightest hint of success, ever, in the history of socialism, not with any variant of it whatsoever. It has not merely not lived up to its impossible vision, but has utterly failed every possible test imaginable.

  • Jay (unregistered) in reply to Nagesh
    Nagesh:
    Rootbeer:
    As an American taxpayer, I'd like to say "Thanks, asshole, for finding a way to use a $1000 computer as a $20 space heater instead of just buying a fucking $20 space heater."

    Who is selling this mad in China stuff?

    Why are the East Asians angry?

  • Jay (unregistered) in reply to The Great Lobachevsky
    The Great Lobachevsky:
    operagost:
    myName:
    Isn't it great to live in a country where workers don't have rights. USA! USA! USA!
    What country are you talking about? It's confusing that they use the same abbreviation as the United States of America. Oh wait, you're trolling. Never mind, no one could be that stupid.

    Actually, a lot of software workers in the USA are exempt from the wage and hour laws.

    213. Exemptions (a) Minimum wage and maximum hour requirements The provisions of sections 206 (except subsection (d) in the case of paragraph (1) of this subsection) and section 207 of this title shall not apply with respect to—

    (17) any employee who is a computer systems analyst, computer programmer, software engineer, or other similarly skilled worker, whose primary duty is— (A) the application of systems analysis techniques and procedures, including consulting with users, to determine hardware, software, or system functional specifications; (B) the design, development, documentation, analysis, creation, testing, or modification of computer systems or programs, including prototypes, based on and related to user or system design specifications; (C) the design, documentation, testing, creation, or modification of computer programs related to machine operating systems; or (D) a combination of duties described in subparagraphs (A), (B), and (C) the performance of which requires the same level of skills, and who, in the case of an employee who is compensated on an hourly basis, is compensated at a rate of not less than $27.63 an hour.

    If you're a software developer in the U.S., and you are working at a job that pays less than minimum wage, your problem isn't that the government fails to protect you from greedy employers. Your problem is that you don't know how to read the want ads or write a resume.

  • Jay (unregistered)

    I call fraud!! He worked for a U.S. government office and they had a budget too small to heat the building? I used to work for the U.S. government. A "small budget" meant that they could only afford to hire five people to do the work of one instead of the standard ten. I think direct deposit was invented by government employee unions so their people wouldn't have to get out of bed to come to work twice a month just to pick up their paychecks. At least once a year we would be told that we needed to spend a bunch of money fast to use up the money left in the budget or the boss would get in trouble for not spending it all.

    Now, I'd believe it if he said that they had a huge budget for heating and cooling and they spent it all on some wacky AC system that never worked, because it used "green energy" or was bought from a company that made large campaign contributions to the right Congressman or some such. That would be plausible.

  • Sayer (unregistered) in reply to PedanticCurmudgeon
    PedanticCurmudgeon:
    Sayer:
    Regardless of whether I'm a smug shithead or not, declaring Socialism a failure because it hasn't created an impossible utopian scenario is really just complaining about an ideology you don't like in the stupidest possible way. Either you're an idiot who thinks there's a scenario where a particular ideology will create an instant utopia, or else you're being transparently hyperbolic for the sake of ridicule.

    Bonus points for pretending 100% wealth and happiness was ever promised.

    O.K., now I'm sure someone is projecting...(Hint: I wasn't the one who declared Socialism a failure.)

    Thanks tips. You'll also notice that I did not attribute that statement to you.

  • Jay (unregistered)

    You had thermostats?

    I worked at one government building where they turned on the air conditioning on a specified day every year, and they turned on the heat on a specified day every year, regardless of the outside temperature. So if winter weather started early one year, we'd all freeze, because the magic day to turn the heat on hadn't come yet. If winter started late, we'd all broil, because they turned the heat on anyway.

    One year they had the building so overheated in winter that we opened all the windows and brought in big fans.

    People complained regularly, but we were told this was more efficient than using a thermostat. Umm, yeah.

  • (cs)

    I don't get it.

    How did the computer(s) heat the environment to a comfortable degree?

  • Sayer (unregistered) in reply to Meep
    Meep:
    Sayer:
    PedanticCurmudgeon:
    Sayer:
    I know this one! Is it because that's not a reasonable situation to expect anywhere on the planet and your question is deliberately hyperbolic, for the sake of being a smug shithead?
    I think someone may be projecting here...

    Regardless of whether I'm a smug shithead or not, declaring Socialism a failure because it hasn't created an impossible utopian scenario is really just complaining about an ideology you don't like in the stupidest possible way.

    But it is, fundamentally, a utopian ideology: the historical dialectic predicts an relentless march towards a worker's paradise. It's not just that socialism is supposed to bring that, but that socialism is merely one step in an inevitable process. Part of the justification of socialism is that we should go along with it simply because it will happen whether we like it or not.

    The fact that nothing like that has ever materialized, and the fact that all implementations of socialism have been utter failures. In backwards society, we've seen crushing famine and outright mass murder of the populace. In advanced societies, we've seen vibrant economies grind to a halt, and demographic suicide (birthrates below replacement).

    There has never been the slightest hint of success, ever, in the history of socialism, not with any variant of it whatsoever. It has not merely not lived up to its impossible vision, but has utterly failed every possible test imaginable.

    Protip: All ideologies at their most basic (outside of dictatorships maybe) are utopian ideals. None of them are intentionally designed to destroy societies. Also, every single one of them (including dictatorships) fail to live up to that idea once people get involved.

    And even without knowledge of your sources,

    There has never been the slightest hint of success, ever, in the history of socialism, not with any variant of it whatsoever.

    does not ring true.

  • Paul (unregistered)

    To evaluate the various cure-all political systems it helps to imagine 10 people on a desert island with no near-term hope of rescue.

    Inflation: everyone gets large piles of paper. It is not edible. Everyone dies.

    Stimulus: The strongest inhabitant commands everyone to hand a large stack of paper to the person on the right, in order to stimulate a vibrant economy. The paper moves rapidly, but it is still not edible. Everyone dies.

    Theft: After initially gathering one coconut each, the inhabitants realize that won't be enough. "A" decides it is easier to take the coconut from "B" than go out and pick another. "B" takes "C"s coconut. Eventually they're all eaten and there is nothing left to steal. Everyone dies.

    Socialism / Marxism / Communism: One guy gets hungry and goes off to pick coconuts. When he comes back with 100 coconuts he generously shares with everyone. They assume he will continue to do so, and work on their tans. After a few days he gets tired of doing all the work and applies one coconut to the head of each of the other inhabitants in the middle of the night. Everyone but the producer dies.

    Free market: everyone goes off and gathers their own stuff. If you like my coconuts and I like your oranges, we trade. Everyone lives. Except the one lazy ass who is still working on his tan.

  • Dan (unregistered)

    I've actually done something like this. In an office that was kept cold, instead of writing a script, I would open a terminal and flood ping localhost, sending CPU utilization to 100%. This was on a laptop with fan vents on top, which would keep my hands warm enough to work.

  • Late 4chan guy not using data uris (unregistered) in reply to Frank
    Frank:
    socialism
    [image]
  • geert (unregistered)

    Why bother to write a program to heat your working environment? Just try to boot Eclipse twice, it has the same effect.

  • (cs) in reply to Tom
    Tom:
    Coyne:
    * Companies should have the right to spend any amount of money they want publishing anything they want in support of any political position they wish but workers should not.
    • Companies should have the right to terminate any worker at any time, penalize them in any way, pay them any amount and should have the right to seek legal redress if those are inadequate but workers should not.

    • Companies should have the right to associate in any way they wish in order to form any kind of trust they choose, in order to set prices for the most profit but workers should not.

    I'm not saying I disagree with you, but, do you have any specific examples? Who is saying workers can't express political opinions? Can't quit their jobs or seek redress? Can't form groups for price negotiations?

    In theory, they can. However, unions are highly unpopular which is, in a way, ridiculous. Because those rights are really what unions are about--or, more properly, those rights give workers the right to create a union, at least in theory.

    But, if they could, companies/plutocrats would do away with all those rights so that workers would:

    • Not be free to pursue political advantage for unions. For an example of this, you can take the screams of plutocrat outrage when Democrats win, because they are "pro worker" and "pro union". Or, if you want another, the screams of outrage when the unions try to buy political commercials (big bucks for political commercials is ok for companies, but not for unions).

    • Not free to seek legal redress against the company when the company is wrong. The latest example of this is the no-class-action, arbitration only contracts employees are being "forced" to sign. (Yes, there's no actionable force, but when a worker is told, "You want to work here you WILL sign it," it really is duress.)

    • Not free to associate and form a union. A recurrent form of this is the retaliation for even meeting with union organizers. Lately, the argument over secret ballot for union organization votes falls in this category: The unions want to open up balloting because companies routinely "buy votes" in secret ballots, to keep unions out.

    Addendum (2012-07-11 22:03): Clarification for the last point: The unions want to permit other methods of voting, not require them. But permitting other methods would make it harder for companies to subvert the voting process.

  • (cs) in reply to Meep
    Meep:
    Coyne:

    Well, outside of the nasty implied insult, again, freedom of association is an inalienable Right.

    It's astounding. You call being forced into a union, and being forced to pay union dues whether you like it or not "freedom of association." Black is white, white is black, complete insanity. The only plutocrats here are union bosses and the politicians that are paid off with union dues.

    Turning the argument on its head, in effect you say, "If we don't interfere with unionization by taking away the employee's freedom of association, then the employee will lose his freedom of association."

    Is there no middle road? Where people can be free to join a union or not, and those who do join the union can negotiate with the company as a union? And those who choose not to join can negotiate as individuals?

    According to both sides, the answer is, "Positively not."

    In actuality, there is a middle of the road for your complaint about unions: It's called "right to work", and I have no problem with it. It ensures the freedom of association so precious to you.

    Now, what will you give in turn to allow freedom of association for employees who wish to join a union? Would you be fine with a "right to unionize" law? One that can't be easily circumvented, as companies today routinely circumvent the existing protections?

  • Friedrice the Great (unregistered) in reply to Bill
    Bill:
    Rootbeer:
    As an American taxpayer, I'd like to say "Thanks, asshole, for finding a way to use a $1000 computer as a $20 space heater instead of just buying a fucking $20 space heater."

    Seriously this is how beuracracy works. Some asshole who doesn't have to deal with the consequences makes some 'decision' that affects numerous people adversely all to save a few pennies. In the end the troops on the ground come up with their own solutions sometimes better sometimes not.

    Besides I am 100% sure space heaters were not allowed in the office either.

    I worked in one office where one day everyone else put a space heater under their desk to combat the cold from the "extremely close to our heads" airconditioning vents. They turned them all on - and blew the fuses on the electric circuit providing power to their cubes ...

  • Friedrice the Great (unregistered) in reply to The Great Lobachevsky
    The Great Lobachevsky:
    Calli Arcale:
    English Man:
    Anketam:
    I was so glad that my phone was on mute (dialed into a meeting) when I read this, because I nearly killed over laughing at this.

    As for the comment about wearing heavier clothes... Gloves + Keyboard does not work. Put on some well insulated gloves and try to post a response on this thread.

    Fingerless gloves provide SOME protection, 55 isn't that cold.

    I have Renaud's, so my fingers will go numb with very little provocation. (65 F is enough to make 'em blanch. Seriously.) I have USB heated fingerless gloves and they have made a big difference.

    If it is a government system, chances are you can't plug in unauthorized USB devices. Seriously.

    Can't do it in my private employer's systems, either, unless you'd like the security software to either encrypt the device (if it finds a Windows filesystem) or reformat it and THEN encrypt it (if it finds anything else).

  • Friedrice the Great (unregistered) in reply to MarkJ
    MarkJ:
    Nagesh:
    s73v3r:
    operagost:
    myName:
    Isn't it great to live in a country where workers don't have rights. USA! USA! USA!
    What country are you talking about? It's confusing that they use the same abbreviation as the United States of America. Oh wait, you're trolling. Never mind, no one could be that stupid.

    Compared to any other country in the first world, no he's not. Sure, you could say we have more rights than Nagesh's country, but is that really what we want to judge ourselves by? That we're slightly better than a shithole 3rd world country?

    In my country, ain't person except for untouchable that have labour rights.

    Does the nagesh have a country?

    No, but he owns a socket puppet that runs one ...

  • (cs) in reply to Friedrice the Great
    Friedrice the Great:
    The Great Lobachevsky:
    Calli Arcale:
    I have USB heated fingerless gloves and they have made a big difference.

    If it is a government system, chances are you can't plug in unauthorized USB devices. Seriously.

    Can't do it in my private employer's systems, either, unless you'd like the security software to either encrypt the device (if it finds a Windows filesystem) or reformat it and THEN encrypt it (if it finds anything else).

    Can you tell me what program they use for that? I would love to be able to store data on USB-powered heated gloves, USB-powered desk lights, USB-powered … oh, you name it. I would never run out of hard drive space ever again!

  • My Name (unregistered) in reply to Nagesh
    Nagesh:
    We ain't worry aboat too cold workplace in my job.

    [image]

    That's OK, children don't get as smelly as adults in high temperatures.

  • Bartholemew Taps (unregistered)

    Simply tell your boss you can log into the thermostat and override the setting as well as the display, using a priviledged "admin" password. Cobble together some kind of fake web interface, and be sure to emphasise the word "privilege", to put boss into a power rush.

    Boss will literally jump on the opportunity and will reward you richly. No more heating problems.

  • heh (unregistered) in reply to Paul
    Paul:
    To evaluate the various cure-all political systems it helps to imagine 10 people on a desert island with no near-term hope of rescue.

    Inflation: everyone gets large piles of paper. It is not edible. Everyone dies.

    Stimulus: The strongest inhabitant commands everyone to hand a large stack of paper to the person on the right, in order to stimulate a vibrant economy. The paper moves rapidly, but it is still not edible. Everyone dies.

    Theft: After initially gathering one coconut each, the inhabitants realize that won't be enough. "A" decides it is easier to take the coconut from "B" than go out and pick another. "B" takes "C"s coconut. Eventually they're all eaten and there is nothing left to steal. Everyone dies.

    Socialism / Marxism / Communism: One guy gets hungry and goes off to pick coconuts. When he comes back with 100 coconuts he generously shares with everyone. They assume he will continue to do so, and work on their tans. After a few days he gets tired of doing all the work and applies one coconut to the head of each of the other inhabitants in the middle of the night. Everyone but the producer dies.

    Free market: everyone goes off and gathers their own stuff. If you like my coconuts and I like your oranges, we trade. Everyone lives. Except the one lazy ass who is still working on his tan.

    heh good one. but...

    Socialism / Marxism / Communism -- eee wrong supply for everyone is directed centrally and everyone has ot do his part. not working is looked down upon and while work is propagated as the greatest value of all.

    problem= work for work itself and also that central direction doesn't really adjust fast enough to what people need.


    moving on there is no socialism in Eeurope and there never really was (despite countries calling themselves socialist). even today in social democracy countries the benefits are limited. for example a common missconception is that you don't have to work and still get benefits. well you do get them when you are unemployed (for a limted period) but you need to activelly seek employment during this time. if oyu don't you loose the benefits. and yes there are less poor people in Europe than in America. And even if they are poor they still get good medical service :-P might not be best in the world or gratest but it is sitll good. most people here probably live in flats, but then again houses are expencive as they are not usually made out of cheap wooden/plaster pannel but thick brics.

  • Bartholemew Taps (unregistered) in reply to Sayer
    Sayer:
    PedanticCurmudgeon:
    Sayer:
    I know this one! Is it because that's not a reasonable situation to expect anywhere on the planet and your question is deliberately hyperbolic, for the sake of being a smug shithead?
    I think someone may be projecting here...

    Regardless of whether I'm a smug shithead or not, declaring Socialism a failure because it hasn't created an impossible utopian scenario is really just complaining about an ideology you don't like in the stupidest possible way. Either you're an idiot who thinks there's a scenario where a particular ideology will create an instant utopia, or else you're being transparently hyperbolic for the sake of ridicule.

    Bonus points for pretending 100% wealth and happiness was ever promised.

    Socialism does fail precisely because it does make those promises, and in spite of the overwhelmingly compelling lessons of history, people continue to be drawn by them.

    Moreover, the main reason socialist societies allow themselves to get so f**ked up that millions are allowed to freeze or starve to death, is that people rationalise and try to shift the goalposts. For example by trying to rewrite history and pretend that utopia was never promised. This serves to inhibit the debunking process and the juggernaught rolls on.

    Capitalism only promises gradual improvements in wealth, along with inequality, recessions, bankruptcies and various other ills. But even when these bad things all happen, people are still better off than those who chose the path of wilful ignorance and blundered into socialism.

    Capitalism (like democracy) sucks - the point is that it sucks less.

  • Jibble (unregistered) in reply to Bartholemew Taps
    Bartholemew Taps:
    Simply tell your boss you can log into the thermostat and override the setting as well as the display, using a priviledged "admin" password. Cobble together some kind of fake web interface, and be sure to emphasise the word "privilege", to put boss into a power rush.

    Boss will literally jump on the opportunity and will reward you richly. No more heating problems.

    I like this idea.

    I'd go further and introduce some initial randomness so that he thinks somebody else has access and is changing it. You can get extra brownie points by "blocking their account" so the boss has exclusive control.

  • Jibble (unregistered) in reply to Jibble
    Jibble:
    Bartholemew Taps:
    Simply tell your boss you can log into the thermostat and override the setting as well as the display, using a priviledged "admin" password. Cobble together some kind of fake web interface, and be sure to emphasise the word "privilege", to put boss into a power rush.

    Boss will literally jump on the opportunity and will reward you richly. No more heating problems.

    I like this idea.

    I'd go further and introduce some initial randomness so that he thinks somebody else has access and is changing it. You can get extra brownie points by "blocking their account" so the boss has exclusive control.

    Also ... add an email alert in case he sets it to some extreme value to check if it's working.

    This give you a chance to go over and adjust the real controls appropriately until he's satisfied everything is in order.

  • RobR (unregistered) in reply to PiisAWheeL

    I often use gloves when I type. The cotton ones that high school marching bands wear. I started when I worked two cubicles away from a floor-to-ceiling window, and in the summer my fingers would stick to the keys, causing typos. My pay was directly proportional to my typing speed. Now I wear the gloves to keep my hands warm.

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