• (cs) in reply to An apprentice
    Anonymous:

    The designer must have had some clue about Web authoring, as he clearly understood complex Javascript, PHP etc. I can't comprehend how anyone with even epsilon clue could engineer a pile of crap like this.

    Oh well, seems to be a work of some 'how do I hide my HTML source' idiot. For once, he definitely succeeded; as it's impossible to decrypt the source code, even with full access to the server ;-)



    Also seems like the "What's the hardest, most complex way I can accomplish this super-simple task?" kind of person.
  • Søren Rindal (unregistered)

    Couldn't he just make a brand new site based on the generated html?

  • (cs) in reply to ParkinT
    ParkinT:

    R.Flowers:
    Anonymous:
    I betcha the PHP script was reading static HTML templates, parsing them and then coverting into JavaScript.


    So this was useful to somebody!

    On a whole different tangent:

    Did you see the LASTEST RELEASE of this amazing product?

    <font face="Tahoma,Verdana,Arial,Helvetica,Geneva,Swiss,SunSans-Regular" size="2">April 9, 2005</font>
    <font face="Tahoma,Verdana,Arial,Helvetica,Geneva,Swiss,SunSans-Regular" size="2">An updated version of HTML To PHP Converter version has been released. This release includes minor bug fixes.</font>

    <font face="Tahoma,Verdana,Arial,Helvetica,Geneva,Swiss,SunSans-Regular" size="2">[image]</font>

    <font face="Tahoma,Verdana,Arial,Helvetica,Geneva,Swiss,SunSans-Regular" size="2">March 5, 2004</font>
    <font face="Tahoma,Verdana,Arial,Helvetica,Geneva,Swiss,SunSans-Regular" size="2">HTML To PHP Converter version 4.2 has been released. This release includes a fix for a code formatting bug.</font>
    I wonder what "minor bugs" appeared in this product?  Maybe a PHP 'print' command was misspelled?
    Or the registration process did not deduct enough money from your PayPal account!
     


    From the same site under 'System Utilities':

    "A new system utility is planned for release in the next few months. It will be announced and posted here when development has been completed."

    *shudder*
  • Kiss me, I'm Polish (unregistered) in reply to GoatCheez

    Abbreviating Firefox downto Fx is actually all wrong, the Fx is already taken multiple times and it won't do any good to confuse a browser with fireworks or special effects. The natural and intuitious "Ff" should be the official way - yet as in every project there comes a smartass evangelising the One Righteous Way He Came Up With. And then there's multiple acolytes spreading his speech, because he's from The Project so he must be right.And then there's simple nerds happy to know the One Righteous Way and share it with other people that never read their posts. And then there's everybody else, but even if there's someone to do it how it should be done, he's not From The Project, so nobody cares.
    Real people don't say "fx" for Firefox.

  • Brad (unregistered) in reply to codeman

    Never had a problem; I don't think Firefox uses the registry at all.

  • Tired_of_stupid_jokes (unregistered) in reply to shaggz
    shaggz:

    Alex Papadimoulis:

    <font color="#000000">After explaining all that would need to be changed to work with FireFox, the client just descided to just mail those users a brochure.</font>

    <font color="#000000">

    </font>

    <font color="#000000">So, you're going to be mailing all the forum users a brochure?</font>



    WTF is the deal with stupid ass comments about these forums? They are not that bad. You retards that constantly make comments about it must have an extremely large tree branch stuck up your ass. Alex has already said he is replacing them with the new version of CS as soon as he can... Deal with it and stop with the tired jokes for the sakes of all of our sanity.
  • (cs) in reply to Tired_of_stupid_jokes
    Anonymous:
    shaggz:

    Alex Papadimoulis:

    <font color="#000000">After explaining all that would need to be changed to work with FireFox, the client just descided to just mail those users a brochure.</font>

    <font color="#000000">

    </font>

    <font color="#000000">So, you're going to be mailing all the forum users a brochure?</font>



    WTF is the deal with stupid ass comments about these forums? They are not that bad. You retards that constantly make comments about it must have an extremely large tree branch stuck up your ass. Alex has already said he is replacing them with the new version of CS as soon as he can... Deal with it and stop with the tired jokes for the sakes of all of our sanity.


    Oh come on.  Nothing against Alex, but you have to admit that this forum software really sucks and appreciate the irony of the site that uses it.

    I mean I can't even get the stupid pizza to work:


  • (cs) in reply to Tired_of_stupid_jokes
    Anonymous:
    shaggz:

    Alex Papadimoulis:

    <FONT color=#000000>After explaining all that would need to be changed to work with FireFox, the client just descided to just mail those users a brochure.</FONT>

    <FONT color=#000000>

    </FONT>

    <FONT color=#000000>So, you're going to be mailing all the forum users a brochure?</FONT>



    WTF is the deal with stupid ass comments about these forums? They are not that bad. You retards that constantly make comments about it must have an extremely large tree branch stuck up your ass. Alex has already said he is replacing them with the new version of CS as soon as he can... Deal with it and stop with the tired jokes for the sakes of all of our sanity.

    Dude, don't be afraid of seeking help.

  • Tired_of_stupid_jokes (unregistered) in reply to smbell
    smbell:
    Anonymous:
    shaggz:

    Alex Papadimoulis:

    <font color="#000000">After explaining all that would need to be changed to work with FireFox, the client just descided to just mail those users a brochure.</font>

    <font color="#000000">

    </font>

    <font color="#000000">So, you're going to be mailing all the forum users a brochure?</font>



    WTF is the deal with stupid ass comments about these forums? They are not that bad. You retards that constantly make comments about it must have an extremely large tree branch stuck up your ass. Alex has already said he is replacing them with the new version of CS as soon as he can... Deal with it and stop with the tired jokes for the sakes of all of our sanity.


    Oh come on.  Nothing against Alex, but you have to admit that this forum software really sucks and appreciate the irony of the site that uses it.

    I mean I can't even get the stupid pizza to work:




    Sure, It was fine the first 100 comments or so, and I definitely appreciate the irony, All I'm saying is its getting old. It is commented about multiple times every single day, as if everyone wasn't already aware that there are some bugs...
  • Chaz (unregistered) in reply to ithika

    Sigh.... Now I've moved to New Zealand I miss places like this. I could just fancy a prawn cocktaiil followed by Scampi and chips.

  • (cs) in reply to codeman
    codeman:

    Can anyone using FireFox relate as to whether this sort of battle to keep control of your PC still occurs?

    I'm pretty sure Firefox barely does a thing to your registry hive (like register itself as the default browser at best), everything is handled by text files mostly in your Fx profile.

    Which is why Portable Firefox works (try it, if you want to be sure to keep your computer clean).

    Additionnaly, the only things Ad-Aware and Spybot find to whine about on my box are a few tracking cookies I get when I happen to have to use MSIE for some random website.

  • (cs) in reply to SpComb
    Anonymous:
    codeman:

    Can anyone using FireFox relate as to whether this sort of battle to keep control of your PC still occurs?



    IE? You mean that thing that one uses Start Menu -> Run -> iexplore.exe (because there is no other way to launch it anymore) to run once in a while to see what your pages look like in IE?

    Well, the answer is no :P
    ---
    As for the wtf, this is probably some ingenious way to hide the html source code... where in* is a negation.

    Install the "IE Tab" extension, allows you to switch back and forth between Gecko and MSHTML from whithin Firefox, no need to ever launch MSIE anymore ;)

  • (cs) in reply to Tired_of_stupid_jokes
    Anonymous:
    smbell:
    Anonymous:
    shaggz:

    Alex Papadimoulis:

    <font color="#000000">After explaining all that would need to be changed to work with FireFox, the client just descided to just mail those users a brochure.</font>

    <font color="#000000">

    </font>

    <font color="#000000">So, you're going to be mailing all the forum users a brochure?</font>



    WTF is the deal with stupid ass comments about these forums? They are not that bad. You retards that constantly make comments about it must have an extremely large tree branch stuck up your ass. Alex has already said he is replacing them with the new version of CS as soon as he can... Deal with it and stop with the tired jokes for the sakes of all of our sanity.


    Oh come on.  Nothing against Alex, but you have to admit that this forum software really sucks and appreciate the irony of the site that uses it.

    I mean I can't even get the stupid pizza to work:




    Sure, It was fine the first 100 comments or so, and I definitely appreciate the irony, All I'm saying is its getting old. It is commented about multiple times every single day, as if everyone wasn't already aware that there are some bugs...


    "Some bugs" doesn't quite cover it.  Using POST data just for browsing forum threads is a huge design flaw.
  • kupppa (unregistered) in reply to tdog

    This really plain bull shit! I DONT think anyone would have written such php/ javascript code. If he / she is
    really capable of writing this stuff, it surely includes capability to NOT write this stuff.

  • (cs) in reply to mthamil
    mthamil:
    Anonymous:
    smbell:
    Anonymous:
    shaggz:

    Alex Papadimoulis:

    <font color="#000000">After explaining all that would need to be changed to work with FireFox, the client just descided to just mail those users a brochure.</font>

    <font color="#000000">

    </font>

    <font color="#000000">So, you're going to be mailing all the forum users a brochure?</font>



    WTF is the deal with stupid ass comments about these forums? They are not that bad. You retards that constantly make comments about it must have an extremely large tree branch stuck up your ass. Alex has already said he is replacing them with the new version of CS as soon as he can... Deal with it and stop with the tired jokes for the sakes of all of our sanity.


    Oh come on.  Nothing against Alex, but you have to admit that this forum software really sucks and appreciate the irony of the site that uses it.

    I mean I can't even get the stupid pizza to work:




    Sure, It was fine the first 100 comments or so, and I definitely appreciate the irony, All I'm saying is its getting old. It is commented about multiple times every single day, as if everyone wasn't already aware that there are some bugs...


    "Some bugs" doesn't quite cover it.  Using POST data just for browsing forum threads is a huge design flaw.


    Now I just like the visual effect of all the boxes inside of boxes.  :)

    Stupid pizza still doesn't work!

    pi
  • Tired_of_stupid_jokes (unregistered) in reply to smbell
    smbell:
    mthamil:
    Anonymous:
    smbell:
    Anonymous:
    shaggz:

    Alex Papadimoulis:

    <font color="#000000">After explaining all that would need to be changed to work with FireFox, the client just descided to just mail those users a brochure.</font>

    <font color="#000000">

    </font>

    <font color="#000000">So, you're going to be mailing all the forum users a brochure?</font>



    WTF is the deal with stupid ass comments about these forums? They are not that bad. You retards that constantly make comments about it must have an extremely large tree branch stuck up your ass. Alex has already said he is replacing them with the new version of CS as soon as he can... Deal with it and stop with the tired jokes for the sakes of all of our sanity.


    Oh come on.  Nothing against Alex, but you have to admit that this forum software really sucks and appreciate the irony of the site that uses it.

    I mean I can't even get the stupid pizza to work:




    Sure, It was fine the first 100 comments or so, and I definitely appreciate the irony, All I'm saying is its getting old. It is commented about multiple times every single day, as if everyone wasn't already aware that there are some bugs...


    "Some bugs" doesn't quite cover it.  Using POST data just for browsing forum threads is a huge design flaw.


    Now I just like the visual effect of all the boxes inside of boxes.  :)

    Stupid pizza still doesn't work!

    pi


    haha, see, that was a funny comment. Lets stick with those instead of stupid forum comments
  • mrmalone (unregistered) in reply to Runtime Error
    Anonymous:
    codeman:
    I think it's well on its way to becoming an Enterprise-class system. Just add in a few constants to redefine Truth, put all the scripts in vector-vectors and definitely add a check for FileNotFound, and voila!


    Needs more XML


    They could've used MetaL, an XML-based meta-programming language that supports PHP. Then they could've had an XML file that generates the PHP that generates the Javascript that generates the HTML that generates the page, which would obviously be superior since more abstraction layers=better code.
  • (cs) in reply to John Doe
    Anonymous:
    Anonymous:
    I believe this is a case for the If Browser=Firefox then ErrorBox.show("Get a Real Browser: IE") that showed up on this site a few weeks ago.


    IE!!!???

    IE is a virus


    Not to even mention probably the only browser in existence to interpret vbscript, which makes it kind of pointless to write browser detection code in it to begin with, but since I missed the original posting, I assume that was already discussed there... =)

  • (cs) in reply to Tired_of_stupid_jokes
    Anonymous:
    smbell:
    mthamil:
    Anonymous:
    smbell:
    Anonymous:
    shaggz:

    Alex Papadimoulis:

    <font color="#000000">After explaining all that would need to be changed to work with FireFox, the client just descided to just mail those users a brochure.</font>

    <font color="#000000">

    </font>

    <font color="#000000">So, you're going to be mailing all the forum users a brochure?</font>



    WTF is the deal with stupid ass comments about these forums? They are not that bad. You retards that constantly make comments about it must have an extremely large tree branch stuck up your ass. Alex has already said he is replacing them with the new version of CS as soon as he can... Deal with it and stop with the tired jokes for the sakes of all of our sanity.


    Oh come on.  Nothing against Alex, but you have to admit that this forum software really sucks and appreciate the irony of the site that uses it.

    I mean I can't even get the stupid pizza to work:




    Sure, It was fine the first 100 comments or so, and I definitely appreciate the irony, All I'm saying is its getting old. It is commented about multiple times every single day, as if everyone wasn't already aware that there are some bugs...


    "Some bugs" doesn't quite cover it.  Using POST data just for browsing forum threads is a huge design flaw.


    Now I just like the visual effect of all the boxes inside of boxes.  :)

    Stupid pizza still doesn't work!

    pi


    haha, see, that was a funny comment. Lets stick with those instead of stupid forum comments


    Apperantly you missed my little jab at the forum software regarding the stupid pizza icon.  ;)

    I wonder just how thin that middle box can get?

    Stupid pizza still doesn't work.


  • (cs) in reply to smbell
    smbell:
    Anonymous:
    smbell:
    mthamil:
    Anonymous:
    smbell:
    Anonymous:
    shaggz:

    Alex Papadimoulis:

    <font color="#000000">After explaining all that would need to be changed to work with FireFox, the client just descided to just mail those users a brochure.</font>

    <font color="#000000">

    </font>

    <font color="#000000">So, you're going to be mailing all the forum users a brochure?</font>



    WTF is the deal with stupid ass comments about these forums? They are not that bad. You retards that constantly make comments about it must have an extremely large tree branch stuck up your ass. Alex has already said he is replacing them with the new version of CS as soon as he can... Deal with it and stop with the tired jokes for the sakes of all of our sanity.


    Oh come on. Nothing against Alex, but you have to admit that this forum software really sucks and appreciate the irony of the site that uses it.

    I mean I can't even get the stupid pizza to work:




    Sure, It was fine the first 100 comments or so, and I definitely appreciate the irony, All I'm saying is its getting old. It is commented about multiple times every single day, as if everyone wasn't already aware that there are some bugs...


    "Some bugs" doesn't quite cover it. Using POST data just for browsing forum threads is a huge design flaw.


    Now I just like the visual effect of all the boxes inside of boxes. :)

    Stupid pizza still doesn't work!

    pi


    haha, see, that was a funny comment. Lets stick with those instead of stupid forum comments


    Apperantly you missed my little jab at the forum software regarding the stupid pizza icon. ;)

    I wonder just how thin that middle box can get?

    Stupid pizza still doesn't work.


    You should phone and complain, you'll get the next pizza free :-) (We've hit the limit on how thin the middle box gets, the page is just getting wider now)
  • (cs) in reply to smbell
    smbell:
    Anonymous:
    smbell:
    mthamil:
    Anonymous:
    smbell:
    Anonymous:
    shaggz:

    Alex Papadimoulis:

    <font color="#000000">After explaining all that would need to be changed to work with FireFox, the client just descided to just mail those users a brochure.</font>

    <font color="#000000">

    </font>

    <font color="#000000">So, you're going to be mailing all the forum users a brochure?</font>



    WTF is the deal with stupid ass comments about these forums? They are not that bad. You retards that constantly make comments about it must have an extremely large tree branch stuck up your ass. Alex has already said he is replacing them with the new version of CS as soon as he can... Deal with it and stop with the tired jokes for the sakes of all of our sanity.


    Oh come on. Nothing against Alex, but you have to admit that this forum software really sucks and appreciate the irony of the site that uses it.

    I mean I can't even get the stupid pizza to work:




    Sure, It was fine the first 100 comments or so, and I definitely appreciate the irony, All I'm saying is its getting old. It is commented about multiple times every single day, as if everyone wasn't already aware that there are some bugs...


    "Some bugs" doesn't quite cover it. Using POST data just for browsing forum threads is a huge design flaw.


    Now I just like the visual effect of all the boxes inside of boxes. :)

    Stupid pizza still doesn't work!

    pi


    haha, see, that was a funny comment. Lets stick with those instead of stupid forum comments


    Apperantly you missed my little jab at the forum software regarding the stupid pizza icon. ;)

    I wonder just how thin that middle box can get?

    Stupid pizza still doesn't work.


    Re my last post, either that or it just keels over and dies...
  • (cs) in reply to AJR
    AJR:
    Re my last post, either that or it just keels over and dies...

    That was actually the perfect punch line after a page of broken forum chat. I <3 you. =D
  • AJR (unregistered) in reply to AJR
    smbell:
    Anonymous:
    smbell:
    mthamil:
    Anonymous:
    smbell:
    Anonymous:
    shaggz:

    Alex Papadimoulis:

    <FONT color=#000000>After explaining all that would need to be changed to work with FireFox, the client just descided to just mail those users a brochure.</FONT>

    <FONT color=#000000>

    </FONT>

    <FONT color=#000000>So, you're going to be mailing all the forum users a brochure?</FONT>



    WTF is the deal with stupid ass comments about these forums? They are not that bad. You retards that constantly make comments about it must have an extremely large tree branch stuck up your ass. Alex has already said he is replacing them with the new version of CS as soon as he can... Deal with it and stop with the tired jokes for the sakes of all of our sanity.


    Oh come on. Nothing against Alex, but you have to admit that this forum software really sucks and appreciate the irony of the site that uses it.

    I mean I can't even get the stupid pizza to work:




    Sure, It was fine the first 100 comments or so, and I definitely appreciate the irony, All I'm saying is its getting old. It is commented about multiple times every single day, as if everyone wasn't already aware that there are some bugs...


    "Some bugs" doesn't quite cover it. Using POST data just for browsing forum threads is a huge design flaw.


    Now I just like the visual effect of all the boxes inside of boxes. :)

    Stupid pizza still doesn't work!

    pi


    haha, see, that was a funny comment. Lets stick with those instead of stupid forum comments


    Apperantly you missed my little jab at the forum software regarding the stupid pizza icon. ;)

    I wonder just how thin that middle box can get?

    Stupid pizza still doesn't work.


    You should phone and complain, you'll get the next pizza free :-) (We've hit the limit on how thin the middle box gets, the page is just getting wider now)
  • Richard C Haven (unregistered) in reply to Frakkle
    Anonymous:

    ..... "Enterprise HTML"?



    Enterprisey HTML ?
  • (cs) in reply to nobody
    Anonymous:

    Why would *anyone*, no matter how inexperienced or inept, ever possibly do something like this??



    <dripping-venom>Because their website has to be cool. It has to blink, and it has to jump. No link whitout javascript, no image whitout a rollover effect. No way for the visitor to select any text - all of it must be in Flash insertions and/or pop-up boxes. And most importantly, their pages must look exactly the same on all computers, with any browser  (though they  only really work in IE).</dripping-venom>

    Sounds familiar?
  • Anonymous (unregistered) in reply to SpComb

    "Viola"? Is that a clever reference?

  • Schol-R-LEA (unregistered) in reply to Anonymous

    There are two simple rules for coding web docs:

    1) if it doesn't work in Amaya, it isn't a compliant web page.

    2) if it rejects a web page that Amaya accepts, it isn't a web browser.

    Do You Beleive That?&trade;

  • (cs) in reply to Schol-R-LEA
    Anonymous:
    There are two simple rules for coding web docs:

    1) if it doesn't work in Amaya, it isn't a compliant web page.

    2) if it rejects a web page that Amaya accepts, it isn't a web browser.

    Do You Beleive That?™


    No. Your point? :)
  • cmot (unregistered) in reply to ithika
    ithika:
    This reminds me of a nice little pub I know...

    Welcome, Ladies and Gentlemen, to The Balfour Arms. (In case that link doesn't work, the URL is <http://www.thebalfourarms.co.uk/>.)


    Warning... if you have javascript turned off, you won't see anything.

    Ugh. IE and Communicator only. But works the UserAgent in Konqueror - funny, because IME often the javascript check is not fooled by faking the UserAgent. Or Konqueror recently changed their ua faking code to fake better.

    Well, I won't say anything about the layout of that page...

  • (cs)
    some JavaScript hacking, and viola!

    Alex, it's spelled "voilà". The way you spelled it means "raped" in French. And I don't think that was your meaning.
    ;)

    Regarding the ugly javascript stuff, I've seen that a number of times but only one did it properly. I was quite reluctant to static sites in javascript but the presentation was well isolated from the content and the engine. So that changing the look of the site was as easy as editing html and adding pages was just about creating a file with your content only.
  • (cs) in reply to ithika
    ithika:
    This reminds me of a nice little pub I know...

    Welcome, Ladies and Gentlemen, to The Balfour Arms. (In case that link doesn't work, the URL is <http:>.)


    Warning... if you have javascript turned off, you won't see anything.


    Welcome to Web Creator Pro:
    http://www.lmsoft.com/siteb/english/webcreatorpropag.html
    </http:>
  • somebody (unregistered) in reply to RenMan
    RenMan:
    I agree with md2perpe. Sure, it's a little overengineered, but if the dynamic rendering code is written well and concisely, it should not be too difficult to add in some browser detection code, and branch the rendering code accordingly.

    ooh, I like how you can drag emotions like :O



  • (cs)
    Alex Papadimoulis:

    Just a few CSS tweaks and some JavaScript hacking, and viola!, FireFox compatability. At least, that was the theory.



    It's voila, not viola.
  • (cs) in reply to Schol-R-LEA
    Anonymous:
    There are two simple rules for coding web docs:

    1) if it doesn't work in Amaya, it isn't a compliant web page.

    2) if it rejects a web page that Amaya accepts, it isn't a web browser.

    Do You Beleive That?™

    Amaya is a frigging piece of shit, it's even less interresting of a broswer as Netscape 4.7, it barely implements CSS and stuff. The W3C just doesn't have the budget and the people to develop a meaningful Amaya, it's not even useful to test websites in it.

  • (cs) in reply to Tired_of_stupid_jokes
    Anonymous:
    Sure, It was fine the first 100 comments or so, and I definitely appreciate the irony, All I'm saying is its getting old. It is commented about multiple times every single day, as if everyone wasn't already aware that there are some bugs...

    Don't worry; we should be switching to CS 2.0 sometime soon, and then everyone can find new bugs to complain about...

    (Hmmm, fun - in the comment page, the entire body is one giant form - which, presumably, means that the contents of the search box are submitted with the post. Didn't notice that before...)

  • (cs) in reply to AJR
    AJR:
    smbell:
    Anonymous:
    smbell:
    mthamil:
    Anonymous:
    smbell:
    Anonymous:
    shaggz:

    Alex Papadimoulis:

    <font color="#000000">After explaining all that would need to be changed to work with FireFox, the client just descided to just mail those users a brochure.</font>

    <font color="#000000">

    </font>

    <font color="#000000">So, you're going to be mailing all the forum users a brochure?</font>



    WTF is the deal with stupid ass comments about these forums? They are not that bad. You retards that constantly make comments about it must have an extremely large tree branch stuck up your ass. Alex has already said he is replacing them with the new version of CS as soon as he can... Deal with it and stop with the tired jokes for the sakes of all of our sanity.


    Oh come on. Nothing against Alex, but you have to admit that this forum software really sucks and appreciate the irony of the site that uses it.

    I mean I can't even get the stupid pizza to work:




    Sure, It was fine the first 100 comments or so, and I definitely appreciate the irony, All I'm saying is its getting old. It is commented about multiple times every single day, as if everyone wasn't already aware that there are some bugs...


    "Some bugs" doesn't quite cover it. Using POST data just for browsing forum threads is a huge design flaw.


    Now I just like the visual effect of all the boxes inside of boxes. :)

    Stupid pizza still doesn't work!

    pi


    haha, see, that was a funny comment. Lets stick with those instead of stupid forum comments


    Apperantly you missed my little jab at the forum software regarding the stupid pizza icon. ;)

    I wonder just how thin that middle box can get?

    Stupid pizza still doesn't work.


    Re my last post, either that or it just keels over and dies...

    It always does that if you're posting with certain browsers; they've at least partially fixed it in CS 2.0, thankfully.

  • (cs) in reply to RenMan

    RenMan:
    I agree with md2perpe. Sure, it's a little overengineered, but if the dynamic rendering code is written well and concisely, it should not be too difficult to add in some browser detection code, and branch the rendering code accordingly.

    I agree... It will in fact be 'overengineered' when it is a java app. dynamically generating the php files.[8o|]

     

  • ksg (unregistered) in reply to R.Flowers

    R.Flowers:
    Fifteen to twenty pages? Just pull the pages up in a browser, save the source as HTML files (making exceptions for the DHMTL menu, etc.), make your changes, and done. Then burn those PHP files!

     

    Exactly.

    Stephen Jennewein, you're an idiot, and the wtf is back at you.  It would have been extremely simple to turn the site into a couple of dozen html files.  Instead you've left the client with the POS system they started with plus a POS procedure for firefox users.

     - K

  • (cs) in reply to ksg
    Anonymous:

    R.Flowers:
    Fifteen to twenty pages? Just pull the pages up in a browser, save the source as HTML files (making exceptions for the DHMTL menu, etc.), make your changes, and done. Then burn those PHP files!

     

    Exactly.

    Stephen Jennewein, you're an idiot, and the wtf is back at you.  It would have been extremely simple to turn the site into a couple of dozen html files.


    It looks to me like the idiots here are the two of you.

    Note that it's not just HTML generated by PHP on the server. It's JAVASCRIPT generated by PHP on the server, and interpreted by the browser to display a webpage.  If you "save the source" then you eliminate the PHP part, but are STILL stuck with the JavaScript. Now there are two possibilities: the Javascript is standard-compliant and only the HTML it generates via document.write() is buggy. Then you could run the JavaScript in a standalone interpreter and only have to fix the resulting HTML, which is proably a godawful mess. Or the JavaScript itself is buggy and uses all kinds of IE-specific stuff. Then you have to fix that first, then fix the HTML.

  • (cs) in reply to brazzy
    brazzy:

    Note that it's not just HTML generated by PHP on the server. It's JAVASCRIPT generated by PHP on the server, and interpreted by the browser to display a webpage.  If you "save the source" then you eliminate the PHP part, but are STILL stuck with the JavaScript. Now there are two possibilities: the Javascript is standard-compliant and only the HTML it generates via document.write() is buggy. Then you could run the JavaScript in a standalone interpreter and only have to fix the resulting HTML, which is proably a godawful mess. Or the JavaScript itself is buggy and uses all kinds of IE-specific stuff. Then you have to fix that first, then fix the HTML.



    Unless the HTML layout is very complex, I would just copy the text from the HTML page (not the source) and start the whole thing from scratch.
  • Trent (unregistered) in reply to R.Flowers
    R.Flowers:
    Fifteen to twenty pages? Just pull the pages up in a browser, save the source as HTML files (making exceptions for the DHMTL menu, etc.), make your changes, and done. Then burn those PHP files!


    I don't think this would work.  Saving the page as HTML wouldn't show you the HTML that the JavaScript printed...it would just show you the JavaScript function calls.
  • nn (unregistered) in reply to Trent

    If(Firefox) RedirectToIETabPluginDownload();


    Fixed :)

  • Gary (unregistered) in reply to Trent

    <DailyWTFTag>Help! I can't post without including tons of HTML tags!</DailyWTFTag>

  • McBain (unregistered) in reply to codeman

    de goggl

  • BAReFOOt (unregistered) in reply to nobody

    Simple question!

    He heard that "dynamic" is "the next big thing", and so created the ultimate dynamic web api. something so cool you can do everything on it (inner platform effect? nudge, nudge...). and when he was done and maybe even used it for his "site erhem... WEBSERVICE for all and everything" (that gever got finished), he thought it would be the ultimate solution for all and everything, so i must be used for every damn page he does. so of course for this small thing too. easy thing. ;)        

  • Mr Jacs (unregistered) in reply to An apprentice
    Anonymous:

    The designer must have had some clue about Web authoring, as he clearly understood complex Javascript, PHP etc. I can't comprehend how anyone with even epsilon clue could engineer a pile of crap like this.

    Oh well, seems to be a work of some 'how do I hide my HTML source' idiot. For once, he definitely succeeded; as it's impossible to decrypt the source code, even with full access to the server ;-)


    You'd be amazed how easy it is to make stuff like this...

    Back when I was a freshman in high school we had to make a trivial webpage that had to include a few things in javascript. Sure enough I took it upon myself to make the entire page generated by javascript. Each page only had the most basic formatting and absolutely no hint to where the javascript was, except for the fact it was a hidden frame. I think I designed the page just to piss off the teacher, but it didn't work. He gave me an A because he couldn't figure out how I got anything to render "without formatting".

    The PHP backend is ingenious.
  • (cs)



    I think this WTF is actually the code for thedailywtf.com's forum software.

    Reed


  • wk2x (unregistered) in reply to codeman
    codeman:

    A long time ago, during the Netscape/IE browser wars, with the release-of-the-hour updates, I was responsible for making sure our product worked on both browsers. Of course, every time you updated with one, the other would stop working due to all the junk they both put in the registry, although IE was by far the more virulent offender. We took to calling it "( I ) n ( E ) pt".

    Interestingly, I got tired of constantly doing registry dives on my home PC to clean up the mess, and just surrendered to the monopolies-work theory, and removed all things Netscape (even though it was clearly a superior browser - at least at the time, don't know about now). Once I did, all the problems (at least between the two browsers killing each other) disappeared; I've resigned myself to using InEpt, not because it's better, but because it caused me less pain.

    Can anyone using FireFox relate as to whether this sort of battle to keep control of your PC still occurs?



    I use both browsers on several machines with no conflicts except one minor one:

    IE seems to set itself to the "windows default browser" every time you run it, even when it asks you if you want to do that and you respond with an emphatic NO.

    Of course, I use IE *very* sparingly ... mainly out of principle.
  • ps (unregistered) in reply to Bill Gates

    http://www.mapleglobal.com

  • ps (unregistered) in reply to ps

    ...how could it be else? This was no spam but the forum ate the quote I was referring to.

    " I believe this is a case for the If Browser=Firefox then ErrorBox.show("Get a Real Browser: IE") that showed up on this site a few weeks ago."

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