• Krunch (unregistered) in reply to Grendel
    Grendel:
    bjolling:
    y0da:
    Steve the Cynic:
    The other reason is French keyboards. I'm English, well-and-truly used to QWERTY, now working in France - on AZERTY keyboards, the top-row numbers are typed with Shift down, but the numpad ones are not. I often type &é"'(-è_çà) instead of 1234567890.

    Then the real QLM (Quand-le-merde) c'est french keyboard layouts!

    QLM (When-The-Shit) What's that supposed to mean?

    I believe that he was trying (not very successfully) to translate "WTF" into French.

    Literal translation would be "Quoi La Merde" but it still doesn't make much sense in French. I can't really think of any good translation. WTF would be half between « Nom de Dieu » and « Qu'est-ce que c'est que ce bordel ? » but nobody abbreviates those.

    French Wikipedia says WTF is "a relatively vulgar way to ask what's going on, in particular on the Internet". The official translation for the WTFPL license is right on the spirit but it wouldn't really work in the context of TDWTF and I can't think of a good way to translate it back properly to English.

    http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/WTF http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/WTFPL#Traduction_fran.C3.A7aise_officielle_de_la_WTFPL_Version_2

    Anyway, French layout sucks whenever you need to type anything else than French text (and even then, you better not use LaTeX). But The Real WTF is that Belgian keyboard layout is like the French one but with some subtle changes you won't notice until you need that "_" symbol.

  • xnamkcor (unregistered) in reply to bannedfromcoding

    Are you asking why the 10-key is so popular? It's probably because it allows you to type numbers and a few mathematical operators with one hand. Now, what I want, is a 16-key.

  • k1 (unregistered) in reply to AlpineR
    AlpineR:
    I'd like to call henanigan, but unfortunately my keyboard doen't have an '' key o I can't.
    Here: sssss Don't waste them, there is only one spare.

    CYA

  • AdT (unregistered) in reply to Grendel
    Grendel:
    I believe that he was trying (not very successfully) to translate "WTF" into French.

    Whooosh!

    By the way, what's "Romans go home" in French?

  • k1 (unregistered) in reply to jay
    jay:
    But even after he pointed out the row of numbers, she still couldn't enter the password "sunshine1911", because there was only a single "1" on the keyboard and her password has three "1"s.
    She can recycle it.

    CYA

  • @Deprecated (unregistered) in reply to k1

    This gel pad is non standard. Sorry, I will have to take it in for examination, to ensure compatibility with our computer systems. You should get it back in about three weeks.

  • Bilbo Baggins (unregistered)

    Sounds like the "highly payed engineer" wanted an excuse for a visit from Sally...

  • (cs) in reply to Steve

    A similar thing happened to me while working for a school district doing tech support. I got called to clean out a secretary's type writer because it was dusty. Biggest waste of my education ever.

  • (cs) in reply to Bilbo Baggins

    Warning: <some-char-I-can't-remember-now-and-won't-bother-to-look-it-up> -rated comment. Do not read if you're under 14.

    Bilbo Baggins:
    Sounds like the "highly payed engineer" wanted an excuse for a visit from Sally...
    And it explains why it took Sally 90 minutes to unpack the gel pad. She had to... erm, handle another gel device...
  • Winner! (unregistered) in reply to the kasellinator
    the kasellinator:
    Justice:
    How cool would it be to have Carl Kasell read your email?

    I'm sorry but you only answered 1 out of 3 recent emails, you needed at least 2 to win.

    This comment is pure win.

  • (cs) in reply to K&T
    K&T:
    The second isn't really a wtf... it's just a lazy over-paid schmuck. When I worked tech support back in University, I can't tell you how many times I 'set up' equipment for the president or the dean which consisted of nothing more than taking it out of the box.

    Apparently, they're too important for that sort of thing.

    At my last job we couldn't 'set up' equipment because the union would file a grievance. I once waited 3 days for a monitor to be moved from next to my desk to on top of it and hooked up. Could i have done it? Yup. Would I have put the techs out of a job? Nope. Did Union lunacy and lack of common sense prevail? Yup.

    captcha = ullamcorper (say that 3 times fast)

    It's hard to believe crap like this really happens. There's no way I would wait that long. I'd do it myself and take whatever bitching out I got.

  • Pestulant (unregistered) in reply to michaeld1
    michaeld1:
    A similar thing happened to me while working for a school district doing tech support. I got called to clean out a secretary's type writer because it was dusty. Biggest waste of my education ever.

    Euphemism(From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia) - A euphemism is a substitution of an agreeable or less offensive expression in place of one that may offend or suggest something unpleasant to the listener.

    I detect a euphemism here :)

  • (cs) in reply to Pestulant
    Pestulant:
    Euphemism(From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia) - A euphemism is a substitution of an agreeable or less offensive expression in place of one that may offend or suggest something unpleasant to the listener.

    I detect a euphemism here :)

    con·de·scen·sion (knd-snshn) n.

    1. The act of condescending or an instance of it.
    2. Patronizingly superior behavior or attitude.

    I detect a condescension here :)

  • (cs) in reply to Pestulant
    Pestulant:
    Euphemism(From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia) - A euphemism is a substitution of an agreeable or less offensive expression in place of one that may offend or suggest something unpleasant to the listener.

    I detect a euphemism here :)

    WorseThanFailure, dude.

  • jas88 (unregistered) in reply to Steve

    I've had similar things, including a phone call about a problem accessing wireless (yep, the wireless card does work better when switched on), printing (printers do too). On the other hand, our central IT department can be as bad in another direction: two years ago, they issued an internal invoice charging for 12 hours of technician time - for connecting a new keyboard. The excuse? It was a new model, so they had to read the whole user manual first. A user from another department came to me looking for help last month, having tried his department's own support team first - their answer, when told he was unable to log in over WiFi, was to offer him a place on a training course the following week. His answer to that was unprintable, as you might imagine. (Simple chicken and egg problem: you can't authenticate to the file servers until after you've authenticated to the wireless network.)

  • Dazed (unregistered) in reply to ~
    ~:
    bannedfromcoding:
    I can't describe in English how much I HATE those numpad-only !@%#@$. Also, most of them haven't heard of numlock... strange things happen when it "accidentally" gets turned off...

    Btw, could anybody enlighten me HOW that numpad-mania happened in first place? It's not a matter of old habit - typewriters had only the top row.

    It's much faster to type long strings of numbers on the numpad. Also, it mimics calculator layout, which if you're in accounting or something like that, it more familiar than the top row. It comes down to a matter of preference really. Personally, I use it unless I'm mixing in a lot of letters with the numbers (eg. formulas), or it's just a couple numbers that need to be tossed into what is otherwise all text. The numlock key though, is useless and needs to die.

    I think there was a time (in the IBM Compatible world pre 386, I reckon) when there wasn't a separate 'arrow pad' so num lock was used to change between arrows and numbers. Some might argue that this means the other use of the numeric keypad is now redundant, however I must admit I like it for games that allow me to move in diagonals ... (ie the old sierra games, many platform games {Commander Keen et al})

  • Meo (unregistered) in reply to Steve
    Steve:
    The second isn't really a wtf... it's just a lazy over-paid schmuck. When I worked tech support back in University, I can't tell you how many times I 'set up' equipment for the president or the dean which consisted of nothing more than taking it out of the box.

    Apparently, they're too important for that sort of thing.

    And them being too lazy to do something like this is not a WTF??

  • Joel (unregistered) in reply to I'm not a Lefty
    I'm not a Lefty:
    Try this: Move your mouse to the left side of your keyboard (and swap the mouse buttons, of course). Now you can use the numeric keypad as intended without having to take your hand off the mouse. It works great for large spreadsheet projects.
    The Keypads working fine, but I can't get used to my mouse like this!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  • desseb (unregistered)

    WTF is properly translated into french as "Qu'est-ce que phoque?"

    My coworkers came up with that when we transitioned from an english only to french and english support contract.

  • (cs) in reply to Ben
    Ben:
    "Without telling me your password, what is your password"

    "Well my password is -- well, uh... HOW CAN I TELL YOU MY PASSWORD IS sunshine1911 IF YOU WON'T LET ME TELL YOU MY oops"

    You can go sunshine1911 my sunshine1911-ing sunshine1911. Haha, does that look funny to you?

  • Anonymous Coward (unregistered) in reply to alegr
    alegr:
    campkev:
    Paraphrase of an email that was sent out to our customers (since I don't remember the exact wording)

    Dear Customer, We are implenting new security procedures. With our new system you will be assigned a picture that will be displayed above the password box after you put in your username. This is to help you be sure that you are not on a phishing site. If you put in your username and don't see your picture, please do not enter your password.

    Here is how this is bypassed:

    The phishing site sends a request with the name entered to the legit site and fetches the picture. Then it displays the picture on the client. MITM. You should have known better.

    You aren't including session-unique POST tokens in your pages? Shame on you.

    For those of you that aren't: On any page that requires secure a GET/POST process, you need to link the GET to the subsequent POST.

    On GET, add a unique token to the page, and also store it in session.

    On POST, only process the POST if the posted token matches the one you hold in session.

    Problem solved.

  • Uriah (unregistered)

    I've got a better one.

    I was working on a resolving issues we had with Exchange and setting up some new services. This was creating all sorts of problems for certain people, so the helpdesk was told "If there's a problem with Exchange, it could be a reprecussion of this problem we're trying to fix, so forward them through to Uriah". I don't deal with the regular help desk calls, I only get brought in on specialty or difficult jobs and even then I rarely deal with the end user.

    Half way through the day a call gets forwarded to me, it's Sally and her folders have gone missing. They were in Outlook, but now they have gone. These held some extremely critical reports which were needed for the sales and finance teams. Straight away I thought "SHIT", this problem was affecting the backups, so if it's new-ish, it won't be backed up. My mind started running through possibilities of what it could be, all sorts of complex possibilities.

    I needed more information to start from, where did they disappear from, what were they called, were they backed up. At least some answers would give me something to go on to track down this problem.

    Unfortunately the user was extremely non-technical, which I am not used to dealing with, she was having trouble communicating almost any information to me. It's just, her files and folders are gone. She was struggling so much I decided to VNC to her machine, this way I could get her to point at things with the mouse and provide me with a little information.

    After connecting to her machine I saw Outlook right there, there were many folders and they seemed to have files in them, which made me think perhaps the database was corrupt. I asked her to point at where the files were missing from and tell me what they were called.

    She motioned at two folders which had subfolders. She said "They used to be between these 2 folders". I thought I'd clarify, were they a subfolder or a high level folder. So I expanded the directory above by clicking the [+] symbol. "Where they in her...", immediatly she yelled "THAT'S THEM. How did you get them back?". At which point I was confused. What had just happened? I said "What do you mean? Are these your folders?". "Yes, lemme check... yep, that's everything I lost, how did you recover them?"

    It was at this time that I face palmed and the full pain and realization of what she had done sank in. She didn't know how to expand folders. That was it. So in true helpdesk fashion, I mocked her and said if she had any more problems, please feel free to contact the help desk again.

    We all had a pretty good laugh over this.

  • Farseeker (unregistered)

    Someone feel like sharing what the hell NPR is? I feel quite stupid, as everyone else seems to know...

  • @Deprecated (unregistered) in reply to Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward:
    alegr:
    campkev:
    Paraphrase of an email that was sent out to our customers (since I don't remember the exact wording)

    Dear Customer, We are implenting new security procedures. With our new system you will be assigned a picture that will be displayed above the password box after you put in your username. This is to help you be sure that you are not on a phishing site. If you put in your username and don't see your picture, please do not enter your password.

    Here is how this is bypassed:

    The phishing site sends a request with the name entered to the legit site and fetches the picture. Then it displays the picture on the client. MITM. You should have known better.

    You aren't including session-unique POST tokens in your pages? Shame on you.

    For those of you that aren't: On any page that requires secure a GET/POST process, you need to link the GET to the subsequent POST.

    On GET, add a unique token to the page, and also store it in session.

    On POST, only process the POST if the posted token matches the one you hold in session.

    Problem solved.

    If you think that solves your problem of a man in the middle attack, then perhaps you could send me some of your web sites! Do you think that a MITM that is hosting a copy of your login page can't do a GET first and then a POST, and keep track of whatever cookies you send it?

  • TK (unregistered) in reply to Farseeker
    Farseeker:
    Someone feel like sharing what the hell NPR is? I feel quite stupid, as everyone else seems to know...
    National Public Radio.

    It's the socialist network of radio stations in the United States. The TV equivalent is called PBS.

  • Broken Seal (unregistered) in reply to desseb
    desseb:
    WTF is properly translated into french as "Qu'est-ce que phoque?"

    Now that made me RDF (rire dehors fort) (that's LOL in french, freely translated).

    Captcha: ingenium, the material ingeneers are made of.

  • Durk a dur (unregistered) in reply to gads
    gads:
    hatterson:
    holy crap! She has the same password as on my luggage.

    And as on my gym locker...

    OMG, you guys! My left testicle is also named Sunshine1911! What are the chances?

  • Kittens Make The Best Salsa (unregistered) in reply to Krunch

    "See that F5 key? Can you tell me what is written on the one just under it?"

    "Oh, okay... " fidgeting noises followed by a loud crunch "What? There's no key under it - just some kind of switchy, broken-looking stump.. how do I get the F5 key back again?"

  • Anonymous Coward (unregistered) in reply to @Deprecated
    @Deprecated:
    Anonymous Coward:
    alegr:
    campkev:
    Paraphrase of an email that was sent out to our customers (since I don't remember the exact wording)

    Dear Customer, We are implenting new security procedures. With our new system you will be assigned a picture that will be displayed above the password box after you put in your username. This is to help you be sure that you are not on a phishing site. If you put in your username and don't see your picture, please do not enter your password.

    Here is how this is bypassed:

    The phishing site sends a request with the name entered to the legit site and fetches the picture. Then it displays the picture on the client. MITM. You should have known better.

    You aren't including session-unique POST tokens in your pages? Shame on you.

    For those of you that aren't: On any page that requires secure a GET/POST process, you need to link the GET to the subsequent POST.

    On GET, add a unique token to the page, and also store it in session.

    On POST, only process the POST if the posted token matches the one you hold in session.

    Problem solved.

    If you think that solves your problem of a man in the middle attack, then perhaps you could send me some of your web sites! Do you think that a MITM that is hosting a copy of your login page can't do a GET first and then a POST, and keep track of whatever cookies you send it?

    You have an excellent point. I suppose any sufficiently advanced man-in-the-middle could fool a web form into thinking it was a legit client, and scrape the results. There isn't really any way of detecting an illegitimate user until he starts sending data back.

    In my defence there is, remember, no 100% solution to web security: every little bit counts.

    You should be using GET/POST tokens on all sensitive web forms, if only to prevent wholesale POSTing of bogus data to your system.

  • anonymous (unregistered) in reply to K&T

    I can't ever figure out the anti-worker (masquerading as anti-union) sentiment among a lot of tech workers--like you're going to have a nice lifestyle in a few years with nothing protecting your job from being shipped to India.

    I've never belonged to one, but unions are hardly the only outfits with stupid rules. Most stupid rules start out for a purpose and then never get changed when they should. The "only union workers can do X" kind of rule doubtless originated because management is always looking to weasel out of agreements that they made. If not for dishonesty, no need of eventual stupidity.

    I wish common sense would prevail just about everywhere, but it takes at least two sides to make an agreement, and common sense just isn't that common.

  • (cs)

    Heather probably typed Windows+U by mistake. That opens Narrator (as well as other accessibility tools).

  • mort8104 (unregistered)

    Without telling me your CAPTCHA, why did you find it necessary to leave a comment?

  • dv (unregistered) in reply to Steve the Cynic
    Steve the Cynic:
    ~:
    bannedfromcoding:
    I can't describe in English how much I HATE those numpad-only !@%#@$. Also, most of them haven't heard of numlock... strange things happen when it "accidentally" gets turned off...

    Btw, could anybody enlighten me HOW that numpad-mania happened in first place? It's not a matter of old habit - typewriters had only the top row.

    It's much faster to type long strings of numbers on the numpad. Also, it mimics calculator layout, which if you're in accounting or something like that, it more familiar than the top row. It comes down to a matter of preference really. Personally, I use it unless I'm mixing in a lot of letters with the numbers (eg. formulas), or it's just a couple numbers that need to be tossed into what is otherwise all text. The numlock key though, is useless and needs to die.
    The other reason is French keyboards. I'm English, well-and-truly used to QWERTY, now working in France - on AZERTY keyboards, the top-row numbers are typed with Shift down, but the numpad ones are not. I often type &é"'(-è_çà) instead of 1234567890.

    Actually, if that's not the reason for the existence of the numpad, I can't think of a better one. And furthermore, the NumLock key is vitally important for one to be able to switch between "number" function and "direction/pgup/pgdn/home/end" function. As programmers, all of you should know better than to put "long strings of numbers" into the code - the ensuing hilarity is often featured on the front page here. IMHO the arrows/pg*/home/end function is much more useful for navigating the code/filesystem, because your hand fits more comfortably over all the needed keys. And you can still type comments without any additional Shift key presses. NumLock FTW!

  • Lee K-T (unregistered) in reply to Krunch
    Krunch:
    Grendel:
    bjolling:
    y0da:
    Steve the Cynic:
    The other reason is French keyboards. I'm English, well-and-truly used to QWERTY, now working in France - on AZERTY keyboards, the top-row numbers are typed with Shift down, but the numpad ones are not. I often type &é"'(-è_çà) instead of 1234567890.

    Then the real QLM (Quand-le-merde) c'est french keyboard layouts!

    QLM (When-The-Shit) What's that supposed to mean?

    I believe that he was trying (not very successfully) to translate "WTF" into French.

    Literal translation would be "Quoi La Merde" but it still doesn't make much sense in French. I can't really think of any good translation. WTF would be half between « Nom de Dieu » and « Qu'est-ce que c'est que ce bordel ? » but nobody abbreviates those.

    French Wikipedia says WTF is "a relatively vulgar way to ask what's going on, in particular on the Internet". The official translation for the WTFPL license is right on the spirit but it wouldn't really work in the context of TDWTF and I can't think of a good way to translate it back properly to English.

    http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/WTF http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/WTFPL#Traduction_fran.C3.A7aise_officielle_de_la_WTFPL_Version_2

    Anyway, French layout sucks whenever you need to type anything else than French text (and even then, you better not use LaTeX). But The Real WTF is that Belgian keyboard layout is like the French one but with some subtle changes you won't notice until you need that "_" symbol.

    C'est quoi c'te merde!?!

    We use this all the time...

  • jmzeeman (unregistered) in reply to bonjai
    bonjai:
    Another WTF is that it took Sally over 90 minutes to take the gel pad out of the packaging and install it on the desk of the Sr. Engineer.

    Those clamshell blister packs are a bitch...

    Wikipedia fact: Did you know that over 6000 americans end up in hospital after receiving injuries while opening one of these.

  • enu (unregistered) in reply to Pestulant
    Pestulant:
    michaeld1:
    A similar thing happened to me while working for a school district doing tech support. I got called to clean out a secretary's type writer because it was dusty. Biggest waste of my education ever.

    Euphemism(From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia) - A euphemism is a substitution of an agreeable or less offensive expression in place of one that may offend or suggest something unpleasant to the listener.

    I detect a euphemism here :)

    you forget to include the license of wikipedia that is required when you copy their stuff...

    just look at: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:CC-BY-SA

    just be glad it's not the GFDL anymore

  • pbi (unregistered) in reply to Uriah
    Uriah:
    [...] She didn't know how to expand folders. [...]

    that's possibly the stupidest user i've read about. thank you for this story

  • (cs) in reply to jmzeeman
    jmzeeman:
    bonjai:
    Another WTF is that it took Sally over 90 minutes to take the gel pad out of the packaging and install it on the desk of the Sr. Engineer.

    Those clamshell blister packs are a bitch...

    Wikipedia fact: Did you know that over 6000 americans end up in hospital after receiving injuries while opening one of these.

    I assume you mean per year, because if it was per one opened then it would be a pretty good terrorist weapon.

  • (cs) in reply to bannedfromcoding
    bannedfromcoding:
    I can't describe in English how much I HATE those numpad-only !@%#@$. Also, most of them haven't heard of numlock... strange things happen when it "accidentally" gets turned off...

    Btw, could anybody enlighten me HOW that numpad-mania happened in first place? It's not a matter of old habit - typewriters had only the top row.

    I think that back in the day, you'd have a normal keyboard with no numpad, but accountants or whoever dealt with lots of numbers, would buy an separate numpad for easy number entry (easier to do with one hand than the number row) and over time, those separate numpad got incorporated into the standard keyboard... dunno if that's true, but my brain is tell me it is!

  • H-Sphere Support (unregistered)

    Yeay for default bounce backs.

  • (cs) in reply to Farseeker
    Farseeker:
    Someone feel like sharing what the hell NPR is? I feel quite stupid, as everyone else seems to know...
    http://lmgtfy.com/?q=NPR
  • bhaskar (unregistered)

    onerror = blockError yes, that's the code i found when i opened my university website:

    <SCRIPT LANGUAGE="Javascript"> window.onerror = blockError; function blockError(){ return true; }//endfunction </SCRIPT>
  • DA (unregistered) in reply to Cro
    Cro:
    bannedfromcoding:
    I can't describe in English how much I HATE those numpad-only !@%#@$. Also, most of them haven't heard of numlock... strange things happen when it "accidentally" gets turned off...

    Btw, could anybody enlighten me HOW that numpad-mania happened in first place? It's not a matter of old habit - typewriters had only the top row.

    I think that back in the day, you'd have a normal keyboard with no numpad, but accountants or whoever dealt with lots of numbers, would buy an separate numpad for easy number entry (easier to do with one hand than the number row) and over time, those separate numpad got incorporated into the standard keyboard... dunno if that's true, but my brain is tell me it is!

    Well, starting life in banking over 25 years ago, I remember enormous clunky machines with a keyboard layout very similar to the now-standard PC one, except that there were also '00' and '000' keys - certainly not seperate pads.

    Consider this; you have a batch of 1000 cheques and credit slips to enter; each has a amount (anything from 0.01 to millions) to be keyed, and text-based information to go alongside it. What's fastest:

    1. a row of keys along the top of the alpha keyboard? No, definitely not.
    2. a physically seperate numeric pad on the same desk? No: it can shift around too much!
    3. an integrated keyboard with the number pad and the letters - yes!

    Back in those days, we entered every amount in pence, even eliminating the need to find a decimal point key. That was simply the fastest way of processing the work. And it was the big volume processors who were the heaviest users of terminals, and thus most heavily influenced the design.

  • secundum (unregistered) in reply to bannedfromcoding
    bannedfromcoding:
    I can see why.
  • hahaha (unregistered) in reply to Zagyg
    Zagyg:
    Farseeker:
    Someone feel like sharing what the hell NPR is? I feel quite stupid, as everyone else seems to know...
    http://lmgtfy.com/?q=NPR

    "Enable javascript to use LMGTFY."

    Epic fail!

  • erat the internet rodent (unregistered) in reply to Smash King
    Smash King:
    Bilbo Baggins:
    Sounds like the "highly payed engineer" wanted an excuse for a visit from Sally...
    And it explains why it took Sally 90 minutes to unpack the gel pad. She had to... erm, handle another gel device...
    I like tech support gels, too.
  • John (unregistered) in reply to campkev
    campkev:
    K&T:
    The second isn't really a wtf... it's just a lazy over-paid schmuck. When I worked tech support back in University, I can't tell you how many times I 'set up' equipment for the president or the dean which consisted of nothing more than taking it out of the box.

    Apparently, they're too important for that sort of thing.

    At my last job we couldn't 'set up' equipment because the union would file a grievance. I once waited 3 days for a monitor to be moved from next to my desk to on top of it and hooked up. Could i have done it? Yup. Would I have put the techs out of a job? Nope. Did Union lunacy and lack of common sense prevail? Yup.

    captcha = ullamcorper (say that 3 times fast)

    It's hard to believe crap like this really happens. There's no way I would wait that long. I'd do it myself and take whatever bitching out I got.

    Crap like that happens all the time. Take British Airways for example. At Heathrow they have two different tug teams for moving aircraft around, one for around the airport, and one for inside hangers. So one team backs an aircraft up to the hanger doors and disconnect, and the next team connect up, and back it into the hanger. Tough luck if it needs to be done quickly, and the unions will go insane if you encroach another team's turf.

  • Jeremy (unregistered)
    **May 1, 2009 8:05:21 AM Sally** on my way to 2sc, I will see if he is at his desk.

    May 1, 2009 9:31:12 AM Sally device was a gell mouse pad. I took it out of the package and placed it on the desk.

    The real WTF here is that it took her on and a half hours to "setup" this mousepad. No wonder the Sr. Engineer couldn't figure it out.

  • JayC (unregistered) in reply to Jeremy
    Jeremy:
    **May 1, 2009 8:05:21 AM Sally** on my way to 2sc, I will see if he is at his desk.

    May 1, 2009 9:31:12 AM Sally device was a gell mouse pad. I took it out of the package and placed it on the desk.

    The real WTF here is that it took her on and a half hours to "setup" this mousepad. No wonder the Sr. Engineer couldn't figure it out.

    I think 2sc is the name of some place. For all we know he had a meeting there.

  • (cs) in reply to bannedfromcoding
    bannedfromcoding:
    I can't describe in English how much I HATE those numpad-only !@%#@$. Also, most of them haven't heard of numlock... strange things happen when it "accidentally" gets turned off...

    Btw, could anybody enlighten me HOW that numpad-mania happened in first place? It's not a matter of old habit - typewriters had only the top row.

    It's for data entry reasons. I can't describe in English how much I HATE those numpad-lacking notebook keyboards!

    When I was like 20 years old or so, I had a data entry job at a local company that processed magazine subscriptions. A lot of the entry was numeric. When you are entering long strings 10+ digit numbers all day long. Top number row on the keyboard doesn't even come close in speed and accuracy to the numpad.

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