• Sockatume (unregistered)

    That CAPTCHA reads fine to me. Maybe Mike is a robot.

  • DaveK (cs)

    I make it 'V1WLA' by picking out the large characters with drop shadows.

  • MP79 (unregistered)

    The electricity meter one i've seen elsewhere, the last reading is lower than the previous, so the system assumes that the meter has clocked round it's numeric limit 99999.

    The movie preview, i'm surprised he managed to take that, since no forms of photography are allowed :p

  • CherryDT (unregistered)

    I'd rather say it's "VlWLA", with a small letter "l".

  • A Moose once bit my sister. (unregistered) in reply to MP79

    The problem is that he's going to receive a bill for that consumption, and then have to fight them. Really they need a safety check: A 100 amp house, at 240v (both legs in NA) can't use more than 18000 kwh in a month. So the billing system should barf every time consumption hits that.

  • DonaldK (unregistered)

    Not first - this is OK.

  • The Mr. T Experience (unregistered) in reply to DonaldK
    DonaldK:
    Not first - this is OK.
    Not first is OK, mentioning "first" is not OK, but not being first is OK.
  • Sylver (unregistered)

    Is that all:

    The first one requires your to use l33t speak. You should be using it by default anyway. l is 1. Doesn't get more obvious.

    The second one is probably for a rather discreet service, and they didn't want to put the user in hot water by asking an explicit question.

    The third one indisputably must refer to a list of standard abbreviations. The user is just silly for not knowing them.

    The fourth one... 24 characters in a captcha. Very secure.

    The fifth automatically detected that the car was unbelievably filthy, and decided that the owner needed a hint.

    The sixth... I guess Paul should really consider low energy light bulbs.

    Number seven is Ok. It says so right there. What's the problem?

    And as for the movie preview, if you can't deal with the tension, you shouldn't go see horror movies.

    So... no WTF today?

  • password: the biggest wtf (unregistered)

    the biggest wtf which a lot of people would miss is, why is the maximum character length for the password 14?

    shouldn't they be converting all passwords into MD5 or SHA1 at least? in which case I could type in 12343578975643 characters and still would end up with a 32 or 40 byte MD5/SHA1 hash

    so then you wonder, why do they have a maximum which seems arbitary? why not max 255 chars? I could understand that, or perhaps 64 something with a "boundary"

    why 14......it makes you wonder....whats so special about 14?

  • The poop of DOOM (cs)

    "Todays challenge: choose a password containing at least one numeric character without using any numbers," writes Tiziano Müller, "and if your'e thinking of typing out 'seven', don't bother... it doesn't work!"

    ()

    Or perhaps, like in Captchas: 1 (Is it one? Is it a lowercase L? is it an i? Nobody knows!)

  • The poop of DOOM (cs) in reply to password: the biggest wtf
    password: the biggest wtf:
    the biggest wtf which a lot of people would miss is, why is the maximum character length for the password 14?

    shouldn't they be converting all passwords into MD5 or SHA1 at least? in which case I could type in 12343578975643 characters and still would end up with a 32 or 40 byte MD5/SHA1 hash

    so then you wonder, why do they have a maximum which seems arbitary? why not max 255 chars? I could understand that, or perhaps 64 something with a "boundary"

    why 14......it makes you wonder....whats so special about 14?

    Who says they hash it? This is TDWTF, so you should know better than to assume it's not stored as plain text.

  • @Deprecated (cs) in reply to The Mr. T Experience
    The Mr. T Experience:
    DonaldK:
    Not first - this is OK.
    Not first is OK, mentioning "first" is not OK, but not being first is OK.

    This from the guy who always complains about "Jibba Jabba"?

  • C# Guy (unregistered) in reply to A Moose once bit my sister.
    A Moose once bit my sister.:
    The problem is that he's going to receive a bill for that consumption, and then have to fight them. Really they need a safety check: A 100 amp house, at 240v (both legs in NA) can't use more than 18000 kwh in a month. So the billing system should barf every time consumption hits that.

    The problem with this, is that if you have the foresight to put in such a sanity check, you would have programmed it correctly to begin with. Having an actual reading lower than a prior estimated reading is not unheard of.

  • Ol' Bob (unregistered)

    Hey! I was like totally INTO that movie!! I'm even going to a Halloween party this week dressed like ESR.HTC.0509.001_GLOB_2008-!!!

    Humph!! Some people just don't get it...

    (CAPTCHA - "nibh" - a guttural pen point)

  • QJo (cs)

    "Look out! It's behind you!"

    (Whips round.) "Huh? I can't see anything!"

    "Oh no! It must be invisible! Can't you hear it? It's going: GLOB, GLOB, GLOB ..."

    "Aaargh! It's the dreaded blog!"

  • C# Guy (unregistered) in reply to C# Guy
    C# Guy:
    A Moose once bit my sister.:
    The problem is that he's going to receive a bill for that consumption, and then have to fight them. Really they need a safety check: A 100 amp house, at 240v (both legs in NA) can't use more than 18000 kwh in a month. So the billing system should barf every time consumption hits that.

    The problem with this, is that if you have the foresight to put in such a sanity check, you would have programmed it correctly to begin with. Having an actual reading lower than a prior estimated reading is not unheard of.

    Having said that, there is no harm in adopting a belt and braces approach. I have heard of energy companies taking out millions of pounds from a customers bank account by direct debit, and it will be years before energy prices are that high.

  • AdamJS (unregistered) in reply to The poop of DOOM

    It's Tivoli. You'd assume IBM knows better than to store passwords as plain text.

  • QJo (cs) in reply to C# Guy
    C# Guy:
    C# Guy:
    A Moose once bit my sister.:
    The problem is that he's going to receive a bill for that consumption, and then have to fight them. Really they need a safety check: A 100 amp house, at 240v (both legs in NA) can't use more than 18000 kwh in a month. So the billing system should barf every time consumption hits that.

    The problem with this, is that if you have the foresight to put in such a sanity check, you would have programmed it correctly to begin with. Having an actual reading lower than a prior estimated reading is not unheard of.

    Having said that, there is no harm in adopting a belt and braces approach. I have heard of energy companies taking out millions of pounds from a customers bank account by direct debit, and it will be years before energy prices are that high.

    Consumers may in response deliberately fight back by using enough electricity to ensure that their meter clocks. Then they can legitimately say, "Look! My usage is far less than your estimate - you'll have to give me a refund!"

  • Paula (unregistered)

    Paul, they found out that you tampered with the electricity meter to make it run backward

  • AdamJS (unregistered) in reply to DaveK

    Characters with Shadows, actually. Thus it would have a 3 at the start.

  • monkeyPushButton (unregistered)

    I also like on the first one the list of required characters is longer than 14. Maybe they mean you need at least one from that list but if so it isn't clearly stated (unlike everything else).

  • The Mr. T Experience (unregistered) in reply to @Deprecated
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  • The Mr. T Experience (unregistered) in reply to Paula
    Paula:
    Paul, they found out that you tampered with the electricity meter to make it run backward
    Rookie mistake. He should have used magnets to slow it down.
  • Anonymous (unregistered) in reply to Sockatume

    Mike needs to look at it like an autostereogram, and he will see the hidden capcha. It's the new failsafe capcha system.

  • The poop of DOOM (cs) in reply to The Mr. T Experience
    The Mr. T Experience:
    @Deprecated:
    The Mr. T Experience:
    DonaldK:
    Not first - this is OK.
    Not first is OK, mentioning "first" is not OK, but not being first is OK.

    This from the guy who always complains about "Jibba Jabba"?

    Have you ever heard an interview with Mr. T? It's nothing but Jibba Jabba. And thanks for the link to urban dictionary, but I actually lived through the 80's.
    Oh, I thought you died and went to heaven in '86

  • Lego (unregistered) in reply to C# Guy
    C# Guy:
    A Moose once bit my sister.:
    The problem is that he's going to receive a bill for that consumption, and then have to fight them. Really they need a safety check: A 100 amp house, at 240v (both legs in NA) can't use more than 18000 kwh in a month. So the billing system should barf every time consumption hits that.

    The problem with this, is that if you have the foresight to put in such a sanity check, you would have programmed it correctly to begin with. Having an actual reading lower than a prior estimated reading is not unheard of.

    Yeah, when your rooftop solar panels and backyard wind turbine are going full bore your, meter could be running backwards as you supply the grid.

  • QJo (cs) in reply to Lego
    Lego:
    C# Guy:
    A Moose once bit my sister.:
    The problem is that he's going to receive a bill for that consumption, and then have to fight them. Really they need a safety check: A 100 amp house, at 240v (both legs in NA) can't use more than 18000 kwh in a month. So the billing system should barf every time consumption hits that.

    The problem with this, is that if you have the foresight to put in such a sanity check, you would have programmed it correctly to begin with. Having an actual reading lower than a prior estimated reading is not unheard of.

    Yeah, when your rooftop solar panels and backyard wind turbine are going full bore your, meter could be running backwards as you supply the grid.

    Nobody yet has commented on the fact that the estimates are way, way higher than the actual usage. So that's a WTF for a start.

  • golddog (cs) in reply to Lego
    Lego:
    C# Guy:
    A Moose once bit my sister.:
    The problem is that he's going to receive a bill for that consumption, and then have to fight them. Really they need a safety check: A 100 amp house, at 240v (both legs in NA) can't use more than 18000 kwh in a month. So the billing system should barf every time consumption hits that.

    The problem with this, is that if you have the foresight to put in such a sanity check, you would have programmed it correctly to begin with. Having an actual reading lower than a prior estimated reading is not unheard of.

    Yeah, when your rooftop solar panels and backyard wind turbine are going full bore your, meter could be running backwards as you supply the grid.

    Yep. Each month (save some Decembers and Januarys) my meter runs backwards.

    Of course, the chimpanzees who write the billing software for Xcel Energy can't either a) change the label from "kilowatts used" to "kilowatts generated" or b) stick a minus sign in front of the number, if they're going to call it "used".

    There's a saying along the lines of, "if they can't get the simple things right, how can they get the complex things right?". Turns out they can't do either very well...

  • Nagesh (cs)

    No coments from our usual gang of boring folks - COcto, booger, frits?

    Gues they all got asigned some task activity at work or find job or something.

    feke nagesh will be here soon, smirch my good name

  • HP PhaserJet (unregistered)

    Maybe the weird password one was trying to make a point about how passwords are ultimately useless, as is any form of security, as nothing can be perfectly protected and power is only an illusion.

    Open yourself up to world and accept whatever it offers, whether it be joy or sorrow! Try to pick and choose and you'll get nothing at all!

  • Nagesh No More (unregistered) in reply to Nagesh
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  • Nagesh (cs) in reply to HP PhaserJet
    HP PhaserJet:
    Maybe the weird password one was trying to make a point about how passwords are ultimately useless, as is any form of security, as nothing can be perfectly protected and power is only an illusion.

    Open yourself up to world and accept whatever it offers, whether it be joy or sorrow! Try to pick and choose and you'll get nothing at all!

    Gautama, I have mised your wise seyings.

  • Le Forgeron (unregistered)

    I'm wondering about the usage of 99 MWh, on a couple of days, for a house.

    Is that Denis The Overlord and his laser of death in the basement ?

    A contest or demonstration of a few thousand oven ?

    But most important, how the hell did the wires not melt ? Did you get connected with supraconductors ?

  • Nagesh (cs) in reply to QJo
    QJo:
    Nobody yet has commented on the fact that the estimates are way, way higher than the actual usage. So that's a WTF for a start.

    Do you not give estimaets to managers for code completion deadline?

  • Jon E. (unregistered)

    What, never taken a train to Klingon before?

  • QJo (cs) in reply to Nagesh
    Nagesh:
    QJo:
    Nobody yet has commented on the fact that the estimates are way, way higher than the actual usage. So that's a WTF for a start.

    Do you not give estimaets to managers for code completion deadline?

    I don't code, I manage.

  • wonkoTheSane (cs)

    Im sure that its just poorly labeled but:

    Maximum Characters : 14 .. .. .. Required Characters : Count > 14

    Or should that be, at least one of these is required.

  • wonkoTheSane (cs)

    And the meter reading... its clear what has happened, the actual reading is < than the previous estimate.. but as meters cant spin backwards (other than if your generating and supplying back to the grid) it assumes that you have been right the way around the meter. 999999+ Units used..

  • frits (cs) in reply to Nagesh
    Nagesh:
    No coments from our usual gang of boring folks - COcto, booger, frits?

    Gues they all got asigned some task activity at work or find job or something.

    feke nagesh will be here soon, smirch my good name

    <boring> I'm given very long projects with some milestones. Therefore, for the most part, I'm self-managed (Read: Self-paced). Thanks for your concern Mr. Kukunoor! :)</boring>

    I'm actually looking for an upgrade in my daily browsing to a more intelligent community. This place is full of kooks and jerks. Any suggestions?

  • Nagesh (unregistered) in reply to password: the biggest wtf
    password: the biggest wtf:
    the biggest wtf which a lot of people would miss is, why is the maximum character length for the password 14?
    Well, 14 bytes and no password strengthening just happens to give the number of bits needed for a triple-DES key. This cannot be entirely a coincidence.

    (If I recall correctly, early NTLM incarnations used a scheme like this, with the added bonus of case-folding the password as the very first step).

  • boog (cs) in reply to Nagesh
    Nagesh:
    </obvious-flamebait>
    Nice try.
  • AB (unregistered) in reply to Sockatume

    Is the real WTF the comic sans in the L Train picture?

  • Nagesh (unregistered) in reply to AB
    AB:
    Is the real WTF the comic sans in the L Train picture?
    Um, this may be news to you, but there are sans-serif typefaces that are not MS Comic Sans. The one on the display in that picture is one of those. There is hardly any similarity, except for the absence of serifs.
  • Nagesh (unregistered) in reply to Nagesh
    Nagesh:
    Um, this may be news to you, but there are sans-serif typefaces that are not MS Comic Sans.
    And not even Comic Sans MS either ...
  • @Deprecated (cs)

    That would be a train to the Anagram Club Meeting in "port giltcox"

  • Nagesh (cs) in reply to QJo
    QJo:
    Nagesh:
    QJo:
    Nobody yet has commented on the fact that the estimates are way, way higher than the actual usage. So that's a WTF for a start.

    Do you not give estimaets to managers for code completion deadline?

    I don't code, I manage.

    That is how you meke time to meke posts over here.

  • Anno (unregistered) in reply to wonkoTheSane
    wonkoTheSane:
    Im sure that its just poorly labeled but:

    Maximum Characters : 14 .. .. .. Required Characters : Count > 14

    Or should that be, at least one of these is required.

    Yes, that was the part I really got hung up on. Apparently it's impossible to satisfy Tivoli's requirements for a password, if all those punctuation marks are required. Just bad phrasing, or is this the result of some customized settings for one particular company where someone didn't know what they were doing during setup?

  • Nagesh (cs) in reply to frits
    frits:
    Nagesh:
    No coments from our usual gang of boring folks - COcto, booger, frits?

    Gues they all got asigned some task activity at work or find job or something.

    feke nagesh will be here soon, smirch my good name

    <boring> I'm given very long projects with some milestones. Therefore, for the most part, I'm self-managed (Read: Self-paced). Thanks for your concern Mr. Kukunoor! :)</boring>

    I'm actually looking for an upgrade in my daily browsing to a more intelligent community. This place is full of kooks and jerks. any suggestions?

    Has cregslist baned you already?
  • frits (cs) in reply to Nagesh
    Nagesh:
    frits:
    Nagesh:
    No coments from our usual gang of boring folks - COcto, booger, frits?

    Gues they all got asigned some task activity at work or find job or something.

    feke nagesh will be here soon, smirch my good name

    <boring> I'm given very long projects with some milestones. Therefore, for the most part, I'm self-managed (Read: Self-paced). Thanks for your concern Mr. Kukunoor! :)</boring>

    I'm actually looking for an upgrade in my daily browsing to a more intelligent community. This place is full of kooks and jerks. any suggestions?

    Has cregslist baned you already?
    Now that doesn't sound like something that would happen to a boring person, does it? When are you going to go back to baiting anti-Indian racists? I miss those days.
  • Nobody (unregistered)

    " at least one numeric character without using any numbers,"

    i ?

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