• Rick O'Shay (unregistered)

    How can I download an interfrance?

  • Mike5 (unregistered) in reply to another thought

    What? Never heard of Tesla? You better thank him the next time you're listening to radio, using a cell phone, are on a wireless network.

  • (cs) in reply to spandox
    spandox:
    Ummm - is that campus picture the University Of Delaware?

    (which, btw, has been connected to France for a VERY long time - longer than most)

    It does kinda look like The Mall, right around the corner from the Trabant center.

  • S|ic3 X (unregistered) in reply to obediah
    obediah:
    Dave:
    So many of our lecturers are confused by the basics of using a computer. Whilst brilliant in their own field, it's unbelievable the number that just can't persuade a laptop to display powerpoint slides.

    Don't forget all the hopeless savants that can't repair a small engine, develop their own photos, make butter, grow a garden, true a bicyle wheel, change the oil in their car, build a simple book case, tie even a dozen knots, tell time from the sun, or do tens of thousands of other simple tasks anyone could pick up in a week.

    I doubt the ability to true a bicycle wheel would much benefit your average professional lecturer. On the other hand, using PowerPoint is very simple (as you have indicated) and apparently in this case a requisite part of their job--WTF.

  • Andrew (unregistered)

    The professor is real. I had him in Fall '04 for Computer Organization (MIPS assembly and some C programming). He's actually a very smart guy, despite being quite a character.

  • Lucas (unregistered)

    This guy sounds like one of my old professors. Bugger only had an associates. EVERYONE hated his classes. Ofcourse, the school only offered BSETs and not BSEs, though MS recruited heavily there.

  • (cs) in reply to snoofle
    snoofle:
    Saladin:
    David D:
    Story does remind me of the older generation though, those who say "I'll send you a message on the email" or "I can't find my internet".
    "I downloaded the Internet today."

    "The whole thing?"

    Given how fast technology / capacity is improving, fast forward 25-30 years, and it might just happen ;)

    I remember an AOL "coaster" I had a few years back that advertised that it contained "The entire Internet plus exclusive content". Given that I was working at an ISP at the time I thought it was very apropos to hold my coffee cup.

  • (cs) in reply to Saladin
    Saladin:
    David D:
    Story does remind me of the older generation though, those who say "I'll send you a message on the email" or "I can't find my internet".
    "I downloaded the Internet today."

    "The whole thing?"

    Some favourite quotes received during my ISP days:

    • "How do I connect myself to the Internet?"
    • "Please cancel the Internet."
    • "I would like to shut down the Internet."
    • "Please destroy my Internet."
    • "Please disconnect me from the Internet."
    • "Is the Internet broken?"
  • (cs) in reply to trout
    trout:
    Turns out they didn't have an internet connection, just a modem. And they didn't want to make long distance calls using the modem.

    Were there not any local ISPs at the time? (This being 1994, I suppose there might not have been.)

  • NEU Student (unregistered)

    He still teaches... I've had other professors comment on his alcoholism too.

  • Michael (unregistered) in reply to mn
    mn:
    People without a Masters or PhD can be college professors. David Farber is at Carnegie Mellon and used to be a professor at the University of Pennsylvania and he only has a Bachelors. http://www.epp.cmu.edu/httpdocs/people/bios/farber.html

    We had 'em at the University of Oregon, too. But they aren't called professors if they don't have a Ph.D. They are called "instructors" instead.

  • Lloyd Christmas (unregistered)

    WE'VE LANDED ON THE MOON!!!

  • (cs) in reply to doc0tis
    doc0tis:
    I agree completely.

    But in the prof's defense. There have been times that I have struggled for 10-20 minutes trying to get Powerpoint to display on a projector.

    Having said that, the vast majority of the time it's super easy to get ppt running properly

    --doc0tis

    Whenever I've had trouble with it, it's been getting the projector to do what I want, not with powerpoint. It seems like every conference room or lecture hall is set up differently, and it's not like I have to drive all that often. Things we rarely do often need some time to shake all the neurons back into the right tracks.

  • Johan Persson (unregistered) in reply to danixdefcon5
    danixdefcon5:
    pfarrell:
    imMute:
    Is this from the 1970's ? It might have been cool back then, but seriously, WTF?!

    If he was pulling up a web page in the 1970's, I'd be seriously impressed too ;)

    patf.net

    Yup. There was not even TCP/IP in the 70's. Not even mention BIND (name-to-IP resolver, DNS) or HTTP (which works over TCP/IP).

    Hell, I think there were no such things as URLs. ;)

    Hooray for UUCP and bang-paths!

  • Brent (unregistered) in reply to Troy McClure

    One of my best comp sci profs actually started teaching for my school the fall after he graduated. Granted he did graduate Magna Cum Laude and by the time I went there he had his Masters, still kind of impressive.

  • Iceman (unregistered) in reply to Brent

    Could this be our man? http://www.ccs.neu.edu/groups/faculty/jcasey.html

  • jaded blue (unregistered) in reply to Jer
    Jer:
    Besides, I don't think it's possible that anybody without at least MSc. is allowed to teach (can't see how a uni can lack graduates willing to teach either). I call BS.
    I can vouch that it can and does happen. I only have a BS degree (in EE with no formal CS training) and I've taught several CS courses.
  • Anon (unregistered)

    Pathetic!

    352 words and no decent punch line.

    The article mentions Pentium 200 MMX - this places the timeframe somewhere around 1997. So where is the WTF? The guy had justed started playing with the internet - much more believable than say if this occurred in 2000. When talking about the internet, a period of 3-4 years is a significantly long time.

    Captcha: waffles (this article sure did)

  • Mogri (unregistered) in reply to webhamster
    webhamster:
    Saladin:
    David D:
    Story does remind me of the older generation though, those who say "I'll send you a message on the email" or "I can't find my internet".
    "I downloaded the Internet today."

    "The whole thing?"

    Some favourite quotes received during my ISP days:

    • "How do I connect myself to the Internet?"
    • "Please cancel the Internet."
    • "I would like to shut down the Internet."
    • "Please destroy my Internet."
    • "Please disconnect me from the Internet."
    • "Is the Internet broken?"

    I don't know about you -- there are days that I would like to shut down the Internet.

    (captcha: alarm!)

  • (cs) in reply to spandox
    spandox:
    Ummm - is that campus picture the University Of Delaware?

    Please don't remind me of the Computer Science department at Delaware. There is good reason why I transferred out of that university.

  • Henkel-Wallace (unregistered) in reply to Jer
    Jer:
    Besides, I don't think it's possible that anybody without at least MSc. is allowed to teach (can't see how a uni can lack graduates willing to teach either). I call BS.
    Gosh, what about professor Ed Fredkin at MIT who dropped out of his undergraduate school after 1 year?
  • Harsh (unregistered) in reply to Andrew
    Andrew:
    The professor is real. I had him in Fall '04 for Computer Organization (MIPS assembly and some C programming). He's actually a very smart guy, despite being quite a character.

    No you didn't. Anonymity

  • (cs) in reply to Anon
    Anon:
    Pathetic!

    352 words and no decent punch line.

    The article mentions Pentium 200 MMX - this places the timeframe somewhere around 1997. So where is the WTF? The guy had justed started playing with the internet - much more believable than say if this occurred in 2000. When talking about the internet, a period of 3-4 years is a significantly long time.

    Captcha: waffles (this article sure did)

    Oh, you think it's 1997 because there were Pentium MMX's ??? Somewhere it is mentioned that it is 2000. And ... my university had freakin' 486's back in '97 cringe

    Of course, there were Pentiums too ... but I'd say 166 P1's ... not even the MMX type.

  • notme (unregistered) in reply to Anonymous
    Anonymous:
    Has anyone else noticed that you can't search the forums? It will only search the field you have selected last.

    I noticed this in firefox. Look at some text, hit "Control-F" and try to find something. It won't work.

    I can't search the forums with CTRL-F either, but that doesn't surprise me. I don't have any problems searching the current page, though.

  • Michael (unregistered) in reply to Anonymous
    Anonymous:
    Has anyone else noticed that you can't search the forums? It will only search the field you have selected last.

    I noticed this in firefox. Look at some text, hit "Control-F" and try to find something. It won't work.

    Hmm, works for me, must be user error.

  • David (unregistered) in reply to danixdefcon5

    No, because URLs were invented together with HTTP.

  • Anonymouse (unregistered) in reply to danixdefcon5
    danixdefcon5:
    pfarrell:
    imMute:
    Is this from the 1970's ? It might have been cool back then, but seriously, WTF?!

    If he was pulling up a web page in the 1970's, I'd be seriously impressed too ;)

    patf.net

    Yup. There was not even TCP/IP in the 70's. Not even mention BIND (name-to-IP resolver, DNS) or HTTP (which works over TCP/IP).

    Hell, I think there were no such things as URLs. ;)

    Actually, according to a number of sources, Vinton Cerf and Robert Kahn had a TCP/IP network running in 1975. Though not until 1983 was the entire ARPANet converted to TCP/IP.

  • mccaesar (unregistered) in reply to SomeCoder

    Shuuuuut uuuuuup. You are such a Dumas. You don't even know this professor and you're already talking sh**. Why don't you sit on a bottle and spin, you arrogant prick, with your sighs. sigh

    On a different note, this professor, as it's been stated, is very real. (I had him sophmore year in Fall 2000). I don't see how being 'P'iled 'H'igher and 'D'eeper necessarily gets you. It's not some exclusive right for PhD's. He's very good at what he does. He is though quite the character. However, he is certainly not the only one.

    PS. Funny someone should mention Eastern European universities. Central and Eastern European computer science students beat the pants off people here any day. Preemptive response: It's worth admitting it instead of getting all cocky and "USA #1!!!" on yourself.

  • mccaesar (unregistered) in reply to SomeCoder
    SomeCoder:
    I don't think it's amazing that people with just a Bachelors can become professors... it's like that at a lot of places.

    What bothers me is that people this stupid and with only a Bachelors can get TENURE. I would think that Tenure should be reserved for PhD only.

    sigh but then again, look at my school. Some of the professors over there would rule WTF U.

    Captcha: smile. No.

    Shuuuuut uuuuuup. You are such a Dumas. You don't even know this professor and you're already talking sh**. Why don't you sit on a bottle and spin, you arrogant prick, with your sighs. sigh

    On a different note, this professor, as it's been stated, is very real. (I had him sophmore year in Fall 2000). I don't see how being 'P'iled 'H'igher and 'D'eeper necessarily gets you. It's not some exclusive right for PhD's. He's very good at what he does. He is though quite the character. However, he is certainly not the only one.

    PS. Funny someone should mention Eastern European universities. Central and Eastern European computer science students beat the pants off people here any day. Preemptive response: It's worth admitting it instead of getting all cocky and "USA #1!!!" on yourself.

  • (cs)

    England does have a connection with France. We built 3 great fat pipes to link us at the end of the last century!

  • (cs) in reply to mccaesar
    mccaesar:
    SomeCoder:
    I don't think it's amazing that people with just a Bachelors can become professors... it's like that at a lot of places.

    What bothers me is that people this stupid and with only a Bachelors can get TENURE. I would think that Tenure should be reserved for PhD only.

    sigh but then again, look at my school. Some of the professors over there would rule WTF U.

    Captcha: smile. No.

    Shuuuuut uuuuuup. You are such a Dumas. You don't even know this professor and you're already talking sh**. Why don't you sit on a bottle and spin, you arrogant prick, with your sighs. sigh

    On a different note, this professor, as it's been stated, is very real. (I had him sophmore year in Fall 2000). I don't see how being 'P'iled 'H'igher and 'D'eeper necessarily gets you. It's not some exclusive right for PhD's. He's very good at what he does. He is though quite the character. However, he is certainly not the only one.

    PS. Funny someone should mention Eastern European universities. Central and Eastern European computer science students beat the pants off people here any day. Preemptive response: It's worth admitting it instead of getting all cocky and "USA #1!!!" on yourself.

    What puts people under the impression that just because they have an alcoholic professor who bears some resemblance to the one in the story, that they necessarily had him? You guys know how many schools there are, and how many professors teach in those schools, right? Just ask yourself, "What are the chances that many schools have alcoholics zany characters teaching?"
  • no name (unregistered) in reply to nobody
    nobody:
    Was the professor also an Algol-holic?

    We'll have no more of that punning ada you. We C through your schemes.

  • (cs) in reply to S|ic3 X
    S|ic3 X:
    obediah:
    Dave:
    So many of our lecturers are confused by the basics of using a computer. Whilst brilliant in their own field, it's unbelievable the number that just can't persuade a laptop to display powerpoint slides.

    Don't forget all the hopeless savants that can't repair a small engine, develop their own photos, make butter, grow a garden, true a bicyle wheel, change the oil in their car, build a simple book case, tie even a dozen knots, tell time from the sun, or do tens of thousands of other simple tasks anyone could pick up in a week.

    I doubt the ability to true a bicycle wheel would much benefit your average professional lecturer. On the other hand, using PowerPoint is very simple (as you have indicated) and apparently in this case a requisite part of their job--WTF.

    At most good universities the prerequisite for being a lecturer is oustanding research. And academics have been lecturing for thousands of years without ppt. I have attended many talks by prospective faculty members and technology problems are common. It's often the candidate, their sponsor, and the department chair squawking around a laptop until some student pushes the usb key the rest of the way in or something equally simple. The evaluation is based on the content of the slides (possibly prepared by a secretary or grad student) and the talk itself, not their technical proficiency.

  • Northeastern Alum (unregistered)

    Anonymize much?

    That Josh guy definitely has an account on the Northeastern CCIS system. The prof. describe definitely fits one of the profs. there. I've had him, he's a good guy. Much better than some other profs. I've had.

  • jackie31337 (unregistered)

    The image accompanying this article looks a heck of a lot like my alma mater, WMC (now known as McDaniel College) - specifically, it looks like the dorm I lived in. Anybody know where the picture was taken?

  • Richard Braakman (unregistered)

    I don't get what the WTF is here. Being connected to another planet is pretty impressive.

  • chad (unregistered) in reply to Marcin
    Marcin:
    Well, if this was a time when the internet hadn't reached many homes, it might indeed have been something that a prospective student might not have seen. More pertinently, you guys are just jaded. Seriously, how many people in human history have yearned to be connected to France?

    Back in 2000??? Seriously, internet at home was starting to be common way back in 1995 or so; 2000 was "boom years". And in college setups it was commonplace way before that ....

  • (cs) in reply to webhamster
    I thought it was very apropos to hold my coffee cup.

    As long as it's only the CD, not the drive...

  • Pyn (unregistered) in reply to no name
    no name:
    nobody:
    Was the professor also an Algol-holic?

    We'll have no more of that punning ada you. We C through your schemes.

    He's just java-in' a laugh.

    Captcha: ewww (my pun is that bad)

  • PC Paul (unregistered) in reply to obediah
    obediah:

    Don't forget all the hopeless savants that can't repair a small engine, develop their own photos, make butter, grow a garden, true a bicyle wheel, change the oil in their car, build a simple book case, tie even a dozen knots, tell time from the sun, or do tens of thousands of other simple tasks anyone could pick up in a week.

    Never mind them, I've worked with Professors (and, yes, genuine Rocket Scientists) who were incredibly clever but couldn't reliably walk through a doorway without touching the sides*, or manage basic personal hygiene...

    • this was in the UK, so they weren't actually wider than the doorway...
  • (cs) in reply to Anonymous
    Anonymous:
    Has anyone else noticed that you can't search the forums? It will only search the field you have selected last.

    I noticed this in firefox. Look at some text, hit "Control-F" and try to find something. It won't work.

    Click on the main body of the page, outside a post, and see if it works.

    snoofle:
    Given how fast technology / capacity is improving, fast forward 25-30 years, and it might just happen ;)

    Fast forward 25-30 years and the Internet will be that much bigger.

  • Jer (unregistered) in reply to jaded blue
    jaded blue:
    Jer:
    Besides, I don't think it's possible that anybody without at least MSc. is allowed to teach (can't see how a uni can lack graduates willing to teach either). I call BS.
    I can vouch that it can and does happen. I only have a BS degree (in EE with no formal CS training) and I've taught several CS courses.

    Well, my bad. Since BSc degrees are still rare where I come from I assumed he didn't have a degree at all. And I supposed there are regulations against people people without a degree teaching at a uni.

    PS. Funny someone should mention Eastern European universities. Central and Eastern European computer science students beat the pants off people here any day. Preemptive response: It's worth admitting it instead of getting all cocky and "USA #1!!!" on yourself.
    Well, it depends if you mean academic merit or preparation for doing actual work. Since education here is generally more theoretical, Eastern European students tend to do well in programming constests where they solve abstract problems but this doesn't mean they have any idea about the reality of the industry. We have huge problems with proper teaching staff who are mostly Electrical Engineers who don't understand what CS is about. One could hope that those who graduated recently (and actually studied CS not EE) would be better prepared but since the salaries at a uni are 1/5 of what an average programmer earns those who stay to teach are not exactly the best. Come to think of it, I could scrape up at least a few sidebar wtfs from my courses.
  • MoroS (unregistered)

    O Draconian Devil! Oh, Lame Professor! OMFG! -_-' Where did they get a professor like this?

    CAPTCHA: tesla... let's get electrified :P

  • William (unregistered)

    The reason that the (alcoholic) Professor was so happy to be connected to France, is that he had previously seen some kindred spirits...

    "We are from France. Let us consume mass quantities...."

    Ok, Ok, you gotta be pretty old to get it, 'cause it goes back to the original cast of Saturday Night Live, but I know there are some old farts reading this :-)

  • GPT27 (unregistered)

    The Real WTF™ is that the professor didn't use PHP and XML.

    Captcha = alarm (ring ring ring ring ring).

  • Eclipser (unregistered)

    I think my mother would probably be astounded by a revelation such as that.

    captcha: kungfu (crap, now I'm going to be singing that song...)

  • Neomojo (unregistered)

    I don't know what kind of system you have in the US, I've never attended uni there.

    Here in the UK, one cannot become a professor without at least one Ph.D. You can become a lecturer fine, as long as you have a teaching qualification. Although people are generally expected to have a Masters in the area they're teaching in.

    To win a professorship you must demonstrate yourslef to be ont of the top researchers in your field. (Most likely by having a lot of published work, and having attanied a few Ph.D.s.)

    Professorships are given out based on research ability, and ability to manage a team of researchers. It has little to do with being able to teach.

    In the industry professional vs professor debate, as to who is a better lecturer, it really depends on what you're trying to teach.

  • (cs) in reply to Anon
    Anon:
    Pathetic!

    Your comments certainly are.

    Anon:
    The article mentions Pentium 200 MMX - this places the timeframe somewhere around 1997.

    Do you reply to posts without reading other responses? This took place in 2000.

    Anon:
    So where is the WTF?

    Ummm... In your post?

  • Mike (unregistered)

    Reminds me of when my wife and I were looking to buy a house back in 2002. My wife's out-of-state mom, who is a realtor, was talking to us on the phone and said "I'm not sure if they have it down there, but up here we use a thing called realtor.com. It shows us home listings by zip code. Maybe you can look for a place like that for your area."

  • An Eastern European BSc of CS (unregistered) in reply to Jer

    The education is theoretical around here and dull to death, but this all benefits in understanding why you must do what you do and thus we make less WTF-s at our first job than most. At least none of my proffesors shined about being connected to france, they were serious scientsits at their field... None of them had a degree in CS tho, math of all kinds, physics in heaps, a few general lectures, but no CS.

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