• (cs)

    The real WTF is veggie burgers...

  • (cs) in reply to Paolo G
    Paolo G:
    PS: The font on the back of that box is not Times New Roman...

    If you actually read it properly you'd realise that the post implies that the text was written in Times New Roman (perhaps using Word) and then converted to the correct font when the printed it onto the box at a later date. This way, the original writer would have no idea how the text would look on the finished article.

  • Sinan (unregistered) in reply to vt_mruhlin
    Words like "SELECT", "DROP", and "DELETE" are used by hackers and are therefore restricted from your password. Duh.

    Ahem. Write the DB access part properly and you don't have to worry about those 'hacker' words.

  • (cs) in reply to erich
    erich:
    The real WTF is veggie burgers...

    As a vegetarian I can tell you there's a huge range of veggie burgers. Sometimes I run into some which are actually really good, there are some which are ok, then a whole ton which are just absolute shit. I don't know how they make the bad ones or who they expect to like them... ("Hey, let's pack a bunch of rice and spinach together into patties, we can sell it to a bunch of those weird hippies who don't eat meat and they won't care")

  • moosifur (unregistered) in reply to Spectre

    "Re: Password... Protected! 2009-05-14 10:45 • by Spectre WTH is a "duck dog"?"

    It's a dog that follows tall people and says "duck".

  • Jay (unregistered)

    I understand that CitiGroup ordered ten of those ducks for door prizes at the company picnic. That's the real reason they needed a government bail-out.

  • D C Ross (unregistered) in reply to Spectre
    Spectre:
    WTH is a "duck dog"?

    It's something that David Donald Doo dreamed up, along with a dozen donuts.

    Big D, little d... read a book, people.

  • Jay (unregistered)

    My boss once got so fed up with our salesman giving out the administrator password of our system to customers, that he changed it to a very vulgar phrase. He figured that then people would be embarassed to tell anyone what it was.

  • (cs) in reply to Jay
    Jay:
    My boss once got so fed up with our salesman giving out the administrator password of our system to customers, that he changed it to a very vulgar phrase. He figured that then people would be embarassed to tell anyone what it was.
    Wow! I think everybody here have seen plenty of softwares implementing security through obscurity, but this is the first time I hear of security through embarassment.
  • (cs)

    First!

  • (cs) in reply to OldCoder
    OldCoder:
    wtf?!:
    Not that anybody cares, but a non-taxable tax is not a wtf. Since some places in the world have taxes that are actually taxing other taxes...

    Now... a tax that taxes another tax, that's a wtf! But, come to think of it, is there anything a government does that's not a wtf.

    Absolutely. In the UK, you pay duty on petrol. Then you pay VAT on top of that, so you pay VAT on the duty. Bastards!

    The same holds true for The Netherlands. If anybody is interested: the countries of the world ranked according to gas price (per gallon), courtesy of ccnmoney.com during may 2008:

    1. Bosnia-Herzegovina $10,86
    2. Eritrea $9,58
    3. Norway $8,73
    4. United Kingdom $8,38
    5. The Netherlands $8,37 ...
    6. United States $3.45

    And the people of the US are/were complaining that gas prices were skyrocketing?!?

  • (cs) in reply to Jay
    Jay:
    My boss once got so fed up with our salesman giving out the administrator password of our system to customers, that he changed it to a very vulgar phrase. He figured that then people would be embarassed to tell anyone what it was.

    TRWTF: Why do salespersons have you admin pass?

  • m0ffx (unregistered) in reply to burntfuse
    burntfuse:
    erich:
    The real WTF is veggie burgers...

    As a vegetarian I can tell you there's a huge range of veggie burgers. Sometimes I run into some which are actually really good, there are some which are ok, then a whole ton which are just absolute shit. I don't know how they make the bad ones or who they expect to like them... ("Hey, let's pack a bunch of rice and spinach together into patties, we can sell it to a bunch of those weird hippies who don't eat meat and they won't care")

    As an omnivore, I'll confirm that some veggie burgers are rather nice, and others are disgusting. The good ones have their own flavour, the bad ones tend to be those that try to imitate meat and fail very very badly.

  • Buddy (unregistered) in reply to m0ffx
    m0ffx:

    As an omnivore, I'll confirm that some veggie burgers are rather nice, and others are disgusting. The good ones have their own flavour, the bad ones tend to be those that try to imitate meat and fail very very badly.

    Agree, from a bona fide meat eater, La Soyarie in Quebec and environs make really, really good veggie products. Secret - they don't skimp on the oil.

    http://www.soyarie.ca/english/home.html

  • Capt. Obvious (unregistered) in reply to iToad

    The $0.00 non-taxable tax is clearly a hack. Some items are exempt from sales tax. But the software wasn't set up to handle that... although it was set up to handle categories of taxation (I suppose if the system every migrated to where alcohol/tobacco was sold). So they create a "non-taxable" tax, with a rate of 0%.

    I guess it could have been cut off if no item with that tax category was used, but maybe that was at the top of the recipet? I haven't eaten fast food in a while, but isn't 7+ dollars a bit much for a (vegie)burger/fries/soda combination? At least based on TV ads it is.

  • boingle (unregistered) in reply to Krenn

    That wiki post actually states that it's acceptable to use them for lower case single letter words - which FWIW I don't agree with.

    In this case however, they are capitals, so the correct usage according to the wiki article would be "Xs and Os", although it immaterial as this is also incorrect. The correct term should be "noughts and crosses'.

  • boingle (unregistered) in reply to OldCoder
    OldCoder:
    wtf?!:
    Not that anybody cares, but a non-taxable tax is not a wtf. Since some places in the world have taxes that are actually taxing other taxes...

    Now... a tax that taxes another tax, that's a wtf! But, come to think of it, is there anything a government does that's not a wtf.

    Absolutely. In the UK, you pay duty on petrol. Then you pay VAT on top of that, so you pay VAT on the duty. Bastards!

    Not to mention the income tax and national insurance. I'd go to the trouble of calculating how much £10 of petrol actually costs me, if it wasn't for the fact that I'd probably be annoyed for the rest of the evening knowing how much tax I have to pay for it.

  • Mark (unregistered) in reply to Sa

    SAVE $5 BILLION!!! That's right, order frm me instead of Sa and I'll sell this valuable toy for just $10 Billion. Plus if you act now, I'll DOUBLE your offer. That's a $20 Billion value for just $10 Billion. Hurry, supplies are limited to the first [infinite] number of takers. :)

  • Americium (unregistered) in reply to Krenn
    Krenn:
    Hopefully, if the Monster programmers were good, they'd ban passwords containing the words 'password' and 'Monster' and the user's first/last name.

    Maybe this is a pre-interview test. Any prospective programmer must pass it before Monster sends out the resume.

  • (cs)

    They must think my password ****** is a swear.

  • Jerry J. (unregistered)

    Actually when registering for Habbo Hotel I wasn't allowed to drop the F-bomb into the password field.

    I still don't understand why.

  • Habitus (unregistered)

    Monster has no use for my email password. This is not the account setup screen.

  • Brian (really) (unregistered)

    I'm sorry, I can't help Tyr until he re-re-exports. I mean, c'mon.

  • Anon (unregistered) in reply to Smash King
    Smash King:
    Jay:
    My boss once got so fed up with our salesman giving out the administrator password of our system to customers, that he changed it to a very vulgar phrase. He figured that then people would be embarassed to tell anyone what it was.
    Wow! I think everybody here have seen plenty of softwares implementing security through obscurity, but this is the first time I hear of security through embarassment.

    That's more like Security through Obscenity.

  • Frob (unregistered) in reply to Jamie
    Jamie:
    Sa:
    Why pay $32 billion and wait 5 days for shipping and handling? Buy it from me for only $15 billion and I'll hand deliver it to you anywhere in the world within 24 to 48 hours.

    I'll bite... Please deliver it here, within 48 hours: http://maps.google.ca/?ie=UTF8&ll=-80.4886,20.917969&spn=6.169341,81.738281&t=h&z=4

    I get it for free if it's not there in time, mmmmmmkay?

    Jamie.

    You didn't show up! I froze my duck off!

  • yeah (unregistered)

    My father-in-law found out that some businesses confirm your password for identification in the event you need to call them...

    He explained to me later how awkward it was when he had to confirm with the female operator that his password was "pussylips".

  • jim steichen (unregistered) in reply to Spectre

    A duck dog is a poor attempt at a Platypus!

  • Mr.'; Drop Database -- (unregistered) in reply to kastein
    kastein:
    Médinoc:
    "smart" quotes are dumb.

    It causes us all sorts of problems at TVTropes because someone is using a web browser with smart quotes...

    Yeah, another wonderful Microsoft "feature" in their "standard" ISO-8859 codepage. See also http://www.fourmilab.ch/webtools/demoroniser/ (author goes a little over the top on his ranting about MS, but it's good software)
    The curly quotes are standard Unicode characters, U+2018, U+2019, U+201C and U+201D. The author is correct that Latin-1 doesn't have those characters, which would be a good point if Microsoft Office used it. Instead, Office uses Windows-1252, which does have those characters. Linux can use it too.

    At first, I thought the author's point was that older versions of Office labelled their HTML files with an incorrect character set, but if that were the case, his code would simply fix the character encoding declaration instead of translating the characters.

    As it is, I have to conclude that if his software really is the "demoroniser" then it would have deleted his website by now.

    In our modern world, with our modern knowledge of text storage, it's easy to deal with text as text. If you can't write software that can output the exact same text that it receives as input, you have a bug and you're lazy—even if your website is called "TVTropes" or "Slashdot".

  • mx0r (unregistered) in reply to Sa

    It seems like you guys like to play Tower Defense :-)

  • Rene (unregistered) in reply to Mr.'; Drop Database --

    Are you by any chance related to Bobby Tables? ;)

  • Fortrinn (unregistered) in reply to Krenn
    Krenn:
    Hopefully, if the Monster programmers were good, they'd ban passwords containing the words 'password' and 'Monster' and the user's first/last name.

    ^ this. I frequently do this to stop people doing stupid stuff... surprised this even made it in as a WTF.

  • Mr.'; Drop Database -- (unregistered) in reply to Rene
    Rene:
    Are you by any chance related to Bobby Tables? ;)
    Actually, I came up with this joke before the Bobby Tables comic. Bobby Tables was posted around October 2007, whereas the first time I used this joke online was in July 2007, and I was using it as test data in my code before then. :)
  • (cs) in reply to Jamie
    Jamie:
    Sa:
    Why pay $32 billion and wait 5 days for shipping and handling? Buy it from me for only $15 billion and I'll hand deliver it to you anywhere in the world within 24 to 48 hours.

    I'll bite... Please deliver it here, within 48 hours: http://maps.google.ca/?ie=UTF8&ll=-80.4886,20.917969&spn=6.169341,81.738281&t=h&z=4

    I get it for free if it's not there in time, mmmmmmkay?

    Jamie.

    Oh, come on. At least make it a challenge: http://maps.google.ca/?ie=UTF8&ll=-80.4886,20.917969&spn=6.169341,81.738281&t=h&z=4

    If I'm not there, then try here: http://www.google.com/mars/#lat=-67.676084&lon=-88.769531&q=craters

    Addendum (2009-05-14 20:56): GAH! OK, I gotta learn how google maps works. Correct link: http://maps.google.ca/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=mount+everest,+nepal&sll=-80.4886,20.917969&sspn=6.832727,79.101563&ie=UTF8&ll=27.980986,86.921554&spn=0.008736,0.019312&t=h&z=16&iwloc=A

  • Mr.'; Drop Database -- (unregistered) in reply to robbak
  • (cs)

    So, the nike spammer (whose post may have been deleted by the time you see this) is:

    Server Type: Apache/2.2.11 (Unix) mod_ssl/2.2.11 OpenSSL/0.9.8e-fips-rhel5 mod_auth_passthrough/2.1 mod_bwlimited/1.4 FrontPage/5.0.2.2635 IP Address: 85.92.87.114 IP Location United Kingdom - United Kingdom - Uknoc Cr Pop

    role: UKNOC Hostmaster address: UKDedicated Ltd address: 2nd Floor LPL (Westbury LPL) address: 145-157 St John Street address: London address: EC1V 4PY address: United Kingdom

    Nice to know that Chinese knockoff vendors can rely on UK ISPs for bulletproof hosting, isn't it?

  • pm (unregistered) in reply to Mike-RaWare

    Thats what i was going to say. I bet they not only block quotes, but words like select and drop.

  • quintopia (unregistered)

    So does monster really not allow dictionary words in their passwords?

    ...that's more security than I expect from a job-search site.

    @dtech: I, for one, complain that gas prices are too low, and I know I'm not the only one in the U.S.

  • Font Hound (unregistered) in reply to Flatline
    Flatline:
    Paolo G:
    PS: The font on the back of that box is not Times New Roman...

    If you actually read it properly you'd realise that the post implies that the text was written in Times New Roman (perhaps using Word) and then converted to the correct font when the printed it onto the box at a later date. This way, the original writer would have no idea how the text would look on the finished article.

    Just passing by to inform y'all that the font on the packaging is Trajan.

  • (cs) in reply to snover
    snover:
    Times New Roman is not Trajan. This is difficult, I know, but try to understand. You can identify it if it looks like a movie poster.
    Which is also why the 'smart quotes' don't work.

    "If you're going to write your back-of-the-box blurb in Times New Roman in Microsoft Word, at least check that the font you're going to use on your packaging has the correct glyphs for smart quotes".

    So, the guy writing the blurb fires up Word, and types what he wants displayed on the box. Word defaults to Times New Roman, and does its 'smart' quotes thing, inserting non-standard glyphs.

    Blurb writer now fires the text off to the box designer, saying 'Put this on the back, in Trajan'.

    Box designer dumps text onto design, changes typeface to Trajan, and doesn't notice that that font omits the quote glyphs.

    Nowhere in the above does anyone think the typeface used on the box is actually Times New Roman.

  • AdT (unregistered) in reply to burntfuse

    I once ordered a hemp seed burger at a student-operated bar that was famous for it. They even made it vegan for me (presumably the standard version includes cheese), and it was delicious yet very affordable.

    The only downside is that it was kind of hard to drive home safely (just kidding).

  • Mr.'; Drop Database -- (unregistered) in reply to Bellinghman
    Bellinghman:
    So, the guy writing the blurb fires up Word, and types what he wants displayed on the box. Word defaults to Times New Roman, and does its 'smart' quotes thing, inserting non-standard glyphs.
    No, they are not non-standard. They have been standard since 1991, which is probably longer than you've been in the IT industry. Please don't spread silly myths like this--it's easy to check the facts.
  • JJ (unregistered)

    If anyone wants one of those Ducks, I bought one for my dog last week. Since it's slightly used Ill knock off a few billion. Heck, I'll sell it for just a million to the furst taker. :-)

  • Eric (unregistered)

    I submitted the monster screenshot. The banned word was "fuck".

  • prerecorded (unregistered) in reply to boingle
    boingle:
    That wiki post actually states that it's acceptable to use them for lower case single letter words - which FWIW I don't agree with.

    In this case however, they are capitals, so the correct usage according to the wiki article would be "Xs and Os", although it immaterial as this is also incorrect. The correct term should be "noughts and crosses'.

    Plus they couldn't set the text as "Xs and Os" anyway, because Trajan doesn't have any lower case glyphs.

  • (cs) in reply to Jerry J.
    Jerry J.:
    Actually when registering for Habbo Hotel I wasn't allowed to drop the F-bomb into the password field.

    I still don't understand why.

    If I ran a hotel, I wouldn't allow people to drop bombs in any of my fields.

  • Kristjan Wager (unregistered)

    Funny thing about the Spore error - one of my friend got a similar mistake while playing "Age of Heroes" (I believe). Apparently Brian is your go-to guy when you're dealing with bugs in games.

  • Anonymous Coward (unregistered) in reply to Jamie
    Jamie:
    Sa:
    Why pay $32 billion and wait 5 days for shipping and handling? Buy it from me for only $15 billion and I'll hand deliver it to you anywhere in the world within 24 to 48 hours.

    I'll bite... Please deliver it here, within 48 hours: http://maps.google.ca/?ie=UTF8&ll=-80.4886,20.917969&spn=6.169341,81.738281&t=h&z=4

    I get it for free if it's not there in time, mmmmmmkay?

    Jamie.

    [image]

    Can I have my $15 billion now?

  • BUELL (unregistered) in reply to Paolo G
    Paolo G:
    PS: The font on the back of that box is not Times New Roman...
    snover:
    Times New Roman is not Trajan. This is difficult, I know, but try to understand. You can identify it if it looks like a movie poster.

    I think the point he was trying to make was that it was NOT Times New Roman. When it was written it was probably written in Times New Roman which does have smart quotes and then when it was transferred to whatever software for printing they forgot to pick a font that had them. Was that so hard to understand?

    I normally don't do this... but it just seemed like a joke. Captcha: jumentum

  • (cs) in reply to yeah
    yeah:
    My father-in-law found out that some businesses confirm your password for identification in the event you need to call them...

    He explained to me later how awkward it was when he had to confirm with the female operator that his password was "pussylips".

    I had an encounter like sort of like that, but for slightly different reasons. I contemplated briefly on the viability of communicating that my password was something like "xQl1OI0L|i!qb_z". I decided to pass.

    "Look, if you're the helpdesk for this system, not only should you not require my password to do anything to my account, but asking for it is a security hole. I'm in a public computer lab; there's people all around me who could overhear me. How about I just log in and change something on my account? For example, I'll change {foo} to {bar}." I then made the change, and she accepted it as proof I knew the password.

  • Rhialto (unregistered) in reply to Mr.'; Drop Database --
    Mr.'; Drop Database --:
    Bellinghman:
    So, the guy writing the blurb fires up Word, and types what he wants displayed on the box. Word defaults to Times New Roman, and does its 'smart' quotes thing, inserting non-standard glyphs.
    No, they are not non-standard. They have been standard since 1991, which is probably longer than you've been in the IT industry. Please don't spread silly myths like this--it's easy to check the facts.
    Windows-1252 is not a standard, of any sort.

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