The Daily WTF: Curious Perversions in Information Technology

2010-07-07 Reply Admin

Anonymous:
getofmymetriclawn:
SoaperGEM:
No. "Frist" was never funny to begin with. It's just beating a dead horse. A very, very, very dead horse.
Yes, but by also using the "reusing the WTF-pattern in the article with some meta-reference to the comment" meme, he is beating one dead horse with another dead horse, which could, in theory, still be funny.
Eh, maybe. If he was beating a dead horse with a dead horse whilst riding a dead horse over a pile of dead horses, that would be funny.

Now you're just beating a dead horse.

CAPTCHA: appellatio , don't even ask what my first thought was

frits · 2010-07-07 Reply Admin

Ubermensche:
no it isn't:
lAng=frist
this is still funny right?

Not relaly, lAng=Fritz is funnier.

Only though if you're in Metropolis.

Please don't reference that dumb movie. It should be left for pseudo-intellectual yuppies to revere.

Jaime · 2010-07-07 Reply Admin

frits:
You have to love how VB.Net has its own special namespace with slightly different implementations of already available string methods.

They're there for backwards compatibility only. Most are much more tolerant of null strings and they guarantee that upgraded VB6 string handling code will function as originally intended. You don't have to use them for new work.

2010-07-07 Reply Admin

Stacy:
I dunno... I think once you have more than 3 dead horses it becomes less funny and more sad.

Beating one dead horse is a tragedy; beating a million dead horses is a statistic?

Second page!

2010-07-07 Reply Admin

Oh come on. He could have at least put them in order so it's easy to tell if he's already covered the next possibility that needs to be added. en, eN, En, ...

frits · 2010-07-07 Reply Admin

Jaime:
frits:
You have to love how VB.Net has its own special namespace with slightly different implementations of already available string methods.
They're there for backwards compatibility only. Most are much more tolerant of null strings and they guarantee that upgraded VB6 string handling code will function as originally intended. You don't have to use them for new work.

Yeah, I know about that justification. Unfortunately, backward compatibility between legacy VB and VB.net is severely limited. I have actually never seen a direct port from VB 6 to VB.Net. It's much more common, in my experience, to see a rewrite of a VB 6 app in C#.

D-Coder · 2010-07-07 Reply Admin

SilverEyes:
Anonymous:
getofmymetriclawn:
SoaperGEM:
No. "Frist" was never funny to begin with. It's just beating a dead horse. A very, very, very dead horse.
Yes, but by also using the "reusing the WTF-pattern in the article with some meta-reference to the comment" meme, he is beating one dead horse with another dead horse, which could, in theory, still be funny.
Eh, maybe. If he was beating a dead horse with a dead horse whilst riding a dead horse over a pile of dead horses, that would be funny.

Now you're just beating a dead horse.

"Look, kid, it's dead horses all the way down!"

2010-07-07 Reply Admin

frits:

Please don't reference that dumb movie. It should be left for pseudo-intellectual yuppies to revere.

Please keep your nouns and verbs straight. This is a family web site.

frits · 2010-07-07 Reply Admin

wtf:
frits:

Please don't reference that dumb movie. It should be left for pseudo-intellectual yuppies to revere.

Please keep your nouns and verbs straight. This is a family web site.

I'm going to need some clarification. Perhaps there's some sort of snobbery I'm not picking up on?

2010-07-07 Reply Admin

This would have been a good place for some XML. Somehow. Right?

2010-07-07 Reply Admin

This reminds me of one time with Irish Girl. I thought I could probably get the job done in one short expression, but she kept wanting me to go again, again, again, again, again, changing my technique a little bit each time, again, again, again, bigger letters, bigger, bigger, what about something Greek...

Jaime · 2010-07-07 Reply Admin

frits:
Jaime:
frits:
You have to love how VB.Net has its own special namespace with slightly different implementations of already available string methods.
They're there for backwards compatibility only. Most are much more tolerant of null strings and they guarantee that upgraded VB6 string handling code will function as originally intended. You don't have to use them for new work.

Yeah, I know about that justification. Unfortunately, backward compatibility between legacy VB and VB.net is severely limited. I have actually never seen a direct port from VB 6 to VB.Net. It's much more common, in my experience, to see a rewrite of a VB 6 app in C#.

I did it last year. About 50K lines of code, maybe a dozen sections needed a rewrite and at least 75% of the code wasn't touched.

2010-07-07 Reply Admin

so easy.

<?

define ('l', array('l', 'L'));
define ('a', array('a', 'A'));
define ('n', array('n', 'N'));
define ('g', array('g', 'G'));
define ('e', array('e', 'E'));

for ($ll=0;$ll<=1;%ll++) {
  for ($aa=0;$aa<=1;%aa++) {
    for ($nn=0;$nn<=1;%nn++) {
      for ($gg=0;$gg<=1;%gg++) {
        for ($ee=0;$ee<=1;%ee++) {
          for ($nn2=0;$nn2<=1;%nn2++) {
            MyPage = Replace(MyPage, "&".$l[ll].$a[$aa].$n[$nn].$g[$gg]."=".$e[$ee].$n[$nn2].", "")
}}}}}}

?>

//untested.

frits · 2010-07-07 Reply Admin

Jaime:
frits:
Jaime:
frits:
You have to love how VB.Net has its own special namespace with slightly different implementations of already available string methods.
They're there for backwards compatibility only. Most are much more tolerant of null strings and they guarantee that upgraded VB6 string handling code will function as originally intended. You don't have to use them for new work.

Yeah, I know about that justification. Unfortunately, backward compatibility between legacy VB and VB.net is severely limited. I have actually never seen a direct port from VB 6 to VB.Net. It's much more common, in my experience, to see a rewrite of a VB 6 app in C#.

I did it last year. About 50K lines of code, maybe a dozen sections needed a rewrite and at least 75% of the code wasn't touched.

OK, I stand corrected. There is a use for the legacy VB stuff. Out of curiousity, what was the application?

jasmine2501 · 2010-07-07 Reply Admin

vovo:
m a t t:
savar:
This is an instantly fire-able offense.
What? Beating dead animals with other dead animals?

Why are we beating a dead horse with another dead horse? Let's start beating the guy beating the dead horse with another dead horse.

A quite common mistake... leads to infinite recursion. You have to beat the guy beating the dead horse, with a (dead horse - 1)

2010-07-07 Reply Admin

frits:
I'm going to need some clarification. Perhaps there's some sort of snobbery I'm not picking up on?

Verbing your nouns annoyings readery people.

2010-07-07 Reply Admin

wtf:
frits:
I'm going to need some clarification. Perhaps there's some sort of snobbery I'm not picking up on?

Verbing your nouns annoyings readery people.

OK, you're claiming he verbed a nouner, but where? The original sentence looked fine to me.

2010-07-07 Reply Admin

Anonymous:
getofmymetriclawn:
SoaperGEM:
No. "Frist" was never funny to begin with. It's just beating a dead horse. A very, very, very dead horse.
Yes, but by also using the "reusing the WTF-pattern in the article with some meta-reference to the comment" meme, he is beating one dead horse with another dead horse, which could, in theory, still be funny.
Eh, maybe. If he was beating a dead horse with a dead horse whilst riding a dead horse over a pile of dead horses, that would be funny.

Yo dawg, I heard you like dead horses, so I beat a dead horse with a dead horse while commenting about a dead horse!

2010-07-07 Reply Admin

TRWTF is that people seriously think that "applying some substring finesse" or regexes are a solution to this problem, as opposed to using URI parsing functionality built into the framework. URI parsing is hard if you care at all about getting it right, read the URI RFC - it's a nightmare

2010-07-07 Reply Admin

Ralph:
wtf:
frits:
I'm going to need some clarification. Perhaps there's some sort of snobbery I'm not picking up on?

Verbing your nouns annoyings readery people.
OK, you're claiming he verbed a nouner, but where? The original sentence looked fine to me.

nowhere. not one verb in the original sentence was originally a noun. no idea what these morons are talking about, but I really hope it's not "revere".

frits · 2010-07-07 Reply Admin

anon:
Ralph:
wtf:
frits:
I'm going to need some clarification. Perhaps there's some sort of snobbery I'm not picking up on?

Verbing your nouns annoyings readery people.
OK, you're claiming he verbed a nouner, but where? The original sentence looked fine to me.

nowhere. not one verb in the original sentence was originally a noun. no idea what these morons are talking about, but I really hope it's not "revere".

I think he's refering to "reference". Which was a noun but is now definitely a verb in American speech as well as in computer science circles. I am certainly not going de-refer-to my pointers.

Jaime · 2010-07-07 Reply Admin

frits:
Jaime:
frits:
Jaime:
frits:
You have to love how VB.Net has its own special namespace with slightly different implementations of already available string methods.
They're there for backwards compatibility only. Most are much more tolerant of null strings and they guarantee that upgraded VB6 string handling code will function as originally intended. You don't have to use them for new work.

Yeah, I know about that justification. Unfortunately, backward compatibility between legacy VB and VB.net is severely limited. I have actually never seen a direct port from VB 6 to VB.Net. It's much more common, in my experience, to see a rewrite of a VB 6 app in C#.

I did it last year. About 50K lines of code, maybe a dozen sections needed a rewrite and at least 75% of the code wasn't touched.

OK, I stand corrected. There is a use for the legacy VB stuff. Out of curiousity, what was the application?

An internal telesales application at work. Mostly boring order entry stuff, but a few interesting things like telephony integration. The telephony part was almost worthy of this site for a while. We originally added it after we knew we were moving to .Net, but before the actual conversion. So, we wrote it as a .Net class library and exposed it to the app via COM. The pinheads that migrated this part put an interop wrapper around the COM wrapper.

2010-07-07 Reply Admin

Reference is what is achieved when you refer. It's a common mistake, but so are drunk driving and voting Republican, that doesn't make either of them right.

"Dereference" is a domain-specific coinage with no counterpart in ordinary English, and it doesn't seem to like back-formation. I have a pointer and I'm going to use it to reference a variable? No, I'm going to point to the variable.

2010-07-07 Reply Admin

wtf:
Reference is what is achieved when you refer. It's a common mistake, but so are drunk driving and voting Republican, that doesn't make either of them right.
"Dereference" is a domain-specific coinage with no counterpart in ordinary English, and it doesn't seem to like back-formation. I have a pointer and I'm going to use it to reference a variable? No, I'm going to point to the variable.

well, people have only been using reference as a verb for about 150 years, so I can see how one would get confused by these newfangled usages. I mean, my car gets 5 rods to the hogs head and that's the way I likes it.

frits · 2010-07-07 Reply Admin

wtf:
Reference is what is achieved when you refer. It's a common mistake, but so are drunk driving and voting Republican, that doesn't make either of them right.
"Dereference" is a domain-specific coinage with no counterpart in ordinary English, and it doesn't seem to like back-formation. I have a pointer and I'm going to use it to reference a variable? No, I'm going to point to the variable.

The irony of it all is that I was originally poking fun at pseudo-intellectuals, which obviously butt-hurted you.

Tad Whatever · 2010-07-07 Reply Admin

Awesome, this guy didn't know about the HttpUtility.ParseQueryString method that's been around for five years.

http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms150046.aspx

2010-07-07 Reply Admin

frits:
wtf:
Reference is what is achieved when you refer. It's a common mistake, but so are drunk driving and voting Republican, that doesn't make either of them right.
"Dereference" is a domain-specific coinage with no counterpart in ordinary English, and it doesn't seem to like back-formation. I have a pointer and I'm going to use it to reference a variable? No, I'm going to point to the variable.

The irony of it all is that I was originally poking fun at pseudo-intellectuals, which obviously butt-hurted you.

I love how elitist liberals have become!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZPQtjJ55SMA

2010-07-07 Reply Admin

According to dictionary.com, "The verb first is attested 1884."

Methinks someone fell victim to Muphry's Law.

2010-07-07 Reply Admin

Muphry's Law: if it's possible to commit a typo, you will. Muphry's Law, Daily WFT corollary: if it's possible for a website to contain a typo, it will occur at www.dailywtf.com frist.

2010-07-07 Reply Admin

Ralph:
That looks like some perfectly normal VB to me. Yes it would be atrocious in other languages, but again, perfectly fine VB!

Strawman. The language has nothing to do with it, other than VB makes non programmers think they can program.

Dim MyPage As String = Replace(Replace(Request.Url.ToString, "lang=gr", "", vbCompareText), "lang=en", "", vbCompareText)

THAT is perfectly acceptable VB. The original code is what happens when you throw a baby into the deep end of the pool

2010-07-07 Reply Admin

frits:
The irony of it all is that I was originally poking fun at pseudo-intellectuals, which obviously butt-hurted you.

No, it was the language fail that gave me pain. Couldn't give a rip about Metropolis, except for historical interest.

2010-07-07 Reply Admin

Stacy:
Anonymous:
getofmymetriclawn:
SoaperGEM:
No. "Frist" was never funny to begin with. It's just beating a dead horse. A very, very, very dead horse.
Yes, but by also using the "reusing the WTF-pattern in the article with some meta-reference to the comment" meme, he is beating one dead horse with another dead horse, which could, in theory, still be funny.
Eh, maybe. If he was beating a dead horse with a dead horse whilst riding a dead horse over a pile of dead horses, that would be funny.

I dunno... I think once you have more than 3 dead horses it becomes less funny and more sad.

I literally LOL'd.

frits · 2010-07-07 Reply Admin

wtf:
frits:
The irony of it all is that I was originally poking fun at pseudo-intellectuals, which obviously butt-hurted you.

No, it was the language fail that gave me pain. Couldn't give a rip about Metropolis, except for historical interest.

Pointing out perceived errors in grammar on the internet is the height of pseudo-intellectual snobbery. Therein lies the irony. Keep up.

Bonus points for being wrong.

2010-07-07 Reply Admin

frits:
wtf:
frits:
The irony of it all is that I was originally poking fun at pseudo-intellectuals, which obviously butt-hurted you.

No, it was the language fail that gave me pain. Couldn't give a rip about Metropolis, except for historical interest.

Pointing out perceived errors in grammar on the internet is the height of pseudo-intellectual snobbery. Therein lies the irony. Keep up.

Bonus points for being wrong.

Dead wrong, even, dare I say.

2010-07-07 Reply Admin

MindChild:
The language has nothing to do with it, other than VB makes non programmers think they can program.

And that has everything to do with it!!! That's why VB is TRRFWTF (The Real Recursive Forever WTF).

2010-07-07 Reply Admin

SR:
MyComment = Replace(MyComment, "FRIST", "SECOND")
frist

fixed

ClaudeSuck.de · 2010-07-07 Reply Admin

LANG=XX

Just 2^4 * 1 /* the =-sign / * 52 / upper/lower case */ ^2

which gives us 43264 combinations. Some less because we do not need all 52^2 letter combinations.

2010-07-07 Reply Admin

YouTube's <embed>ded video URLs never have a ? in them. They work whether the first query-string parameter begins with a "?" or with a "&".

CAPTCHA: distineo (sounds like a Harry Potter curse, amirite?)

2010-07-07 Reply Admin

I can't wait to see his code for adding two numbers

2010-07-07 Reply Admin

frits:

Pointing out perceived errors in grammar on the internet is the height of pseudo-intellectual snobbery. Therein lies the irony. Keep up.

Bonus points for being wrong.

Wrong? Try a little elementary morphology. "Reference" is a derived noun, derived from a perfectly good verb, "refer". Are you going to tell me that "difference" is a verb? I prefer to speak English, my friend. Or should that be "I preference to speak English"?

2010-07-07 Reply Admin

frits:
Anonymous:
Why not just convert the query string to all lower (or upper) case and then just remove the "lang=el" part of it?

How would you put it back to its previous capitalization? ;)

Convert back to the original Klingon. Klingon is predominately spoken in capitals.

2010-07-07 Reply Admin

Stacy:
I dunno... I think once you have more than 3 dead horses it becomes less funny and more sad.

But once you have a million dead horses, it becomes a statistic.

2010-07-07 Reply Admin

MindChild:
Dim MyPage As String = Replace(Replace(Request.Url.ToString, "lang=gr", "", vbCompareText), "lang=en", "", vbCompareText)
THAT is perfectly acceptable VB.

It fails to actually achieve the correct result, and doesn't handle case sensitivity correctly. And that's assuming that only handling two specific languages was the actual requirement.

When you say that it is perfectly acceptable VB, I believe you.

2010-07-07 Reply Admin

Ralph:
wtf:
frits:
I'm going to need some clarification. Perhaps there's some sort of snobbery I'm not picking up on?

Verbing your nouns annoyings readery people.
OK, you're claiming he verbed a nouner, but where? The original sentence looked fine to me.

Oh no, revere is a noun. Haven't you ever heard about The Midnight Ride of Paul Revere?

2010-07-07 Reply Admin

I'm on a horse.

2010-07-07 Reply Admin

Knux2:
I would love to see how he would handle "Replace any 6 digit numbers with their hexadecimal equivalents."
MyPage = Replace(MyPage, "000000", "00000") MyPage = Replace(MyPage, "000001", "00001") MyPage = Replace(MyPage, "000002", "00002") MyPage = Replace(MyPage, "000003", "00003") MyPage = Replace(MyPage, "000004", "00004")

...

MyPage = Replace(MyPage, "999999", "F423F")

Oh, why make it so easy and pad the numbers with zeroes? Would be much more, uh, interesting if you made it something like this...

MyPage = Replace(MyPage, "0", "0") ... MyPage = Replace(MyPage, "10","A") ... MyPage = Replace(MyPage, "16","10")

and even better if it ran from 999999 backwards... I'm almost tempted to write this just to see how it would come out...

2010-07-08 Reply Admin

Welcome to the world of MS case-insensetive coding that should not have been a problem with LaNg in the first place. I wonder if the handled the case where the parameter isn't actually the first because the it would have had a & and not a ? - but they can probably fix that too ;)

2010-07-08 Reply Admin

Very clean code that works, he-he.

2010-07-08 Reply Admin

Stacy:
Anonymous:
getofmymetriclawn:
SoaperGEM:
No. "Frist" was never funny to begin with. It's just beating a dead horse. A very, very, very dead horse.
Yes, but by also using the "reusing the WTF-pattern in the article with some meta-reference to the comment" meme, he is beating one dead horse with another dead horse, which could, in theory, still be funny.
Eh, maybe. If he was beating a dead horse with a dead horse whilst riding a dead horse over a pile of dead horses, that would be funny.

I dunno... I think once you have more than 3 dead horses it becomes less funny and more sad.

Come on guys. Dead is an absolute. We mock the WTFs that make abolutely, positively sure that "something==True". The horse is just dead. Or NOT_FOUND.

C4I_Officer · 2010-07-08 Reply Admin

Yo dawg, I herd yo like replacing Strings. So I replaced your String with a String replacement so that you can replace your String while your String is replaced, dawg.

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