• ContraCorners (unregistered) in reply to real_aardvark
    real_aardvark:
    Wrong research. This is the correct research.

    In unrelated news, "I waited in line for a few hours and finally got in to see The Exemption Lady. She was bald and overweight, with curly graying hair."

    Oh dear -- I appear to be The Exemption Lady.

    I'd always wanted to be The Church Lady, but apparently Jon Lovitz beat me to it.

    Nope. Dana Carvey

  • Jon (unregistered) in reply to NiceWTF

    I agree. But a band final? Now that would be hard to give.

  • (cs) in reply to Code
    Code:
    I call B.S. on this. A school allowing students to get out of final exams? There are no classes where a final exam cannot be given. None. Jury duty? Come on. Some one needs to proof read these stories before putting them up. I thought these were supposed to be true stories? I think the real WTF is this site.

    At my high school you were able to skip a final if your grade was 70% or higher (at the teacher's discretion). It was called a "recommendation". Now, there were a few board-mandated finals that you couldn't get out of because everybody had to write them no matter what. In Grade 12 I finished the year on the honour roll and out of 8 classes I only had to write a final for 1 class (one of the compulsory exams). If it hadn't been for that compulsory exam I would have finished the year without writing ANY exams.

    A friend of mine even got his Grade 10 french grade bumped up to 70% (and thus avoiding the exam) in exchange for "forgetting" that the teacher owed him $60 from our football pool.

    Addendum (2008-06-23 11:46): And as far as jury duty goes, it's certainly possible. Because my high school went up to OAC (a.k.a Grade 13) at the time, I graduated high school just after my 19th birthday. So it is definitely a possibility and is probably in the system just for those rare cases where it may occur. What's the harm in keeping a code for it since it is a possibility?

  • (cs) in reply to FredSaw
    FredSaw:
    real_aardvark:
    I'd always wanted to be The Church Lady, but apparently Jon Lovitz beat me to it.
    Could it be... SATAN?
    Well, isn't that special?

    (Dances Superior dance)

  • (cs) in reply to ContraCorners
    ContraCorners:
    real_aardvark:
    Wrong research. This is the correct research.

    In unrelated news, "I waited in line for a few hours and finally got in to see The Exemption Lady. She was bald and overweight, with curly graying hair."

    Oh dear -- I appear to be The Exemption Lady.

    I'd always wanted to be The Church Lady, but apparently Jon Lovitz beat me to it.

    Nope. Dana Carvey

    Didn't see the Misery parody, did you?

    More research needed.

  • Hatterson (unregistered) in reply to webhamster
    webhamster:
    A friend of mine even got his Grade 10 french grade bumped up to 70% (and thus avoiding the exam) in exchange for "forgetting" that the teacher owed him $60 from our football pool.

    Nothing like a good old fashioned bribe to get out of an exam.

  • (cs)

    You can get more with a gun and a smile than you can with just a smile!

  • (cs)

    How does the "Exemption Pass" solve the problem of "Every class must have a final exam"? Since only students with exceptional attendance get exemptions, teachers still have to come up with finals for inappropriate classes, they just don't have to give them to everyone.

  • (cs) in reply to Loren Pechtel
    Loren Pechtel:
    It could happen. You can have 18 year olds still in high school.

    But they should be able to get an exemption from Jury Duty for that. I got out of Jury Duty when I was in college by saying I was at school.

  • (cs) in reply to SomeCoder
    SomeCoder:
    Ren:
    I saw the 'aggression' thing coming. A friend of mine was in the US a few years back and had (of course) rented a car to get around in. For some reason or another, they get pulled over, and my friend naturally starts stepping out of the car to talk with the officer.

    One officer proceeds to forcibly shut the door, while the other backs up a few steps and pulls out his gun, aiming carefully at my friend.

    But nice of them to keep the office open at 7 PM.

    Well, technically, you're not supposed to get out of the car like that if you are pulled over. Turn on the dome light, put both hands on the steering wheel in a visible position and don't get your license or anything out until they ask for it.

    Learned all that from a friend who just became a cop :)

    No, CUSTOMARILY, you are not supposed to get out of the car like that. TECHNICALLY, you have every right to. If I know I have done nothing wrong, I get out. If I know I was speeding or otherwise guilty, I go with the customary, as I am more likely to get off with a warning.

  • (cs) in reply to campkev
    campkev:
    SomeCoder:
    Ren:
    I saw the 'aggression' thing coming. A friend of mine was in the US a few years back and had (of course) rented a car to get around in. For some reason or another, they get pulled over, and my friend naturally starts stepping out of the car to talk with the officer.

    One officer proceeds to forcibly shut the door, while the other backs up a few steps and pulls out his gun, aiming carefully at my friend.

    But nice of them to keep the office open at 7 PM.

    Well, technically, you're not supposed to get out of the car like that if you are pulled over. Turn on the dome light, put both hands on the steering wheel in a visible position and don't get your license or anything out until they ask for it.

    Learned all that from a friend who just became a cop :)

    No, CUSTOMARILY, you are not supposed to get out of the car like that. TECHNICALLY, you have every right to. If I know I have done nothing wrong, I get out. If I know I was speeding or otherwise guilty, I go with the customary, as I am more likely to get off with a warning.

    TECHNICALLY, you might get shot.

    CUSTOMARILY, the courts in many states may well accept an officer's word on the apparent threat you TECHNICALLY posed.

    (I'm thinking of a cop in Denver who took six months' enforced leave after killing his first perp, went back on patrol, and three days later took another six months' leave.)

    Feel free to try this one out yourself. Me, I'd rather stay alive. Wind down window, dome light on, and hands on wheel at all times unless otherwise instructed.

  • (cs) in reply to Code
    Code:
    I call B.S. on this. A school allowing students to get out of final exams? There are no classes where a final exam cannot be given. None. Jury duty? Come on. Some one needs to proof read these stories before putting them up. I thought these were supposed to be true stories? I think the real WTF is this site.

    Maybe we could do with a WTF that lets us look at the WLC from 'A Dubious Honor'.

  • tezoatlipoca (unregistered) in reply to akatherder
    akatherder:
    Spudnick:
    The opening statements sound remarkably like Cobb County in Georgia. We had the same silly finals limitation, and our old grading system was remarkably similar, and was hacked in a remarkably similar way, back in 2001.

    Cobb County, GA? Home of the Big Boss Man!

    I wish I didn't remember that.

    Your comment was sufficiently intriguing that I had to find out what the hell you were talking about. I want my 5 mins. back!

  • (cs) in reply to webhamster
    webhamster:
    At my high school you were able to skip a final if your grade was 70% or higher (at the teacher's discretion).
    My college physics professor told the class that we would have five tests throughout the semester, including the final. He would discard the two with the lowest scores and average the other three, and that would be our semester grade. When I received my third 100 on the third test, I approached him after class and made sure I'd understood correctly, and told him I already had three A's.

    "Well, you've got an A for the semester, then," he said, followed by, "I would hope you'd continue to attend the class..."

    Fat chance.

  • jimmy (unregistered)

    So, the Exemption Lady was bald with curly graying hair??? wtf?

  • (cs) in reply to real_aardvark
    real_aardvark:
    Feel free to try this one out yourself. Me, I'd rather stay alive. Wind down window, dome light on, and hands on wheel at all times unless otherwise instructed.

    I have tried this out. I got pulled over. As soon as I stopped, I turned off the engine, got out and leaned/sat on my hood. Cop didn't even mention it.

  • Anon (unregistered) in reply to FredSaw
    FredSaw:
    webhamster:
    At my high school you were able to skip a final if your grade was 70% or higher (at the teacher's discretion).
    My college physics professor told the class that we would have five tests throughout the semester, including the final. He would discard the two with the lowest scores and average the other three, and that would be our semester grade. When I received my third 100 on the third test, I approached him after class and made sure I'd understood correctly, and told him I already had three A's.

    "Well, you've got an A for the semester, then," he said, followed by, "I would hope you'd continue to attend the class..."

    Fat chance.

    Well I'm sorry that the teacher inconvenienced you so much by trying to teach you anything. Jackass.

  • Anon (unregistered) in reply to SuperousOxide
    SuperousOxide:
    How does the "Exemption Pass" solve the problem of "Every class must have a final exam"? Since only students with exceptional attendance get exemptions, teachers still have to come up with finals for inappropriate classes, they just don't have to give them to everyone.

    That was my thought too. I was expecting the exemption to be for the class, not for the student. Indecently, I don't think it's that hard to come up with a final if the final isn't required to be written.

  • (cs) in reply to FredSaw
    FredSaw:
    "Well, you've got an A for the semester, then," he said, followed by, "I would hope you'd continue to attend the class..."

    Fat chance.

    You'd think once people start paying for their classes, they'd realize the grades aren't the most important thing you get out of it. I hope you didn't have any other courses that needed to build on your 3/5 of a physics class.

  • Thunder (unregistered) in reply to Ren
    Ren:
    I saw the 'aggression' thing coming. A friend of mine was in the US a few years back and had (of course) rented a car to get around in. For some reason or another, they get pulled over, and my friend naturally starts stepping out of the car to talk with the officer.
    Is your friend a complete moron? What is with the idiots who think it is "natural", "normal" or "acceptable" to step out of the car in this situation? For all the cop knows, your idiot friend is about to pull out a piece and start shooting.

    If you want to get out of a ticket, the best way to start is by staying seated, and keeping your hands on the steering wheel where nervous cops can seem them. Don't reach for anything before he gets to your car, and when he asks for license/registration, reach for them slowly and tell them where you're reaching. If you carry, warn them first thing, tell them where the gun is, and offer to provide your permit along with your license [if you live in a place where one is required].

    This presents the added benefit of giving you time to talk while you do these things - which can make all the difference in whether you get a ticket or not. (As long as you don't blabber on like a moron.)

    This is all about putting the officer at ease. Quite reasonably, too - he's doing his job, and has /no/ idea what you might be up to when you step out of the car, move quickly, etc.

  • SeaDrive (unregistered)

    This WTF is strong support for the "No School Administrator Left Behind" legislation now before Congress.

  • Anonymous Cow-herd (unregistered) in reply to Grovesy
    Grovesy:
    Dave:
    That's not that uncommmon - in Australia at least it is customary to get out of the car to speak with the officer who pulls you over. Most people would do it without a second thought.

    Same here in the UK, though a friend found that in the US getting out of the car can aggravate the situation somewhat.

    Indeed. In fact, in some cases, cops in the UK will get in the car with you and sit in the shotgun seat. Often, they'll ask you to step out of the car and get into the front of the panda for a "chat".

  • jimi (unregistered)
    One of the 'hacker' students must have noticed this on ettercap, or something, because it wasn't long before someone opened a telnet session to 172.16.55.55:2500 and sent "DROP TABLE GRADES."
    Sounds like someone knows a little too much...
  • anonny (unregistered)

    WTF did the story writer hope to illustrate by mentioning he was "white" when talking about perceived aggression?

    Racialist, IMO.

  • Anon (unregistered) in reply to campkev
    campkev:
    SomeCoder:
    Ren:
    I saw the 'aggression' thing coming. A friend of mine was in the US a few years back and had (of course) rented a car to get around in. For some reason or another, they get pulled over, and my friend naturally starts stepping out of the car to talk with the officer.

    One officer proceeds to forcibly shut the door, while the other backs up a few steps and pulls out his gun, aiming carefully at my friend.

    But nice of them to keep the office open at 7 PM.

    Well, technically, you're not supposed to get out of the car like that if you are pulled over. Turn on the dome light, put both hands on the steering wheel in a visible position and don't get your license or anything out until they ask for it.

    Learned all that from a friend who just became a cop :)

    No, CUSTOMARILY, you are not supposed to get out of the car like that. TECHNICALLY, you have every right to. If I know I have done nothing wrong, I get out. If I know I was speeding or otherwise guilty, I go with the customary, as I am more likely to get off with a warning.

    This is TRWTF right here.

    "I got pulled over, but I didn't REALLY do anything wrong, I'm going to get out of my car! The cop knows I didn't do anything wrong, he's just pulling me over for the hell of it. He must know I'm not going to come out shooting."

    Stay in your car for the gods' sakes. Is it really that much of a hassle to you to just sit there and let the officer control the situation? If you are in big, crime-filled cities, if you are getting out of your car you better have your hands on your head and moving to kiss the pavement or you risk getting shot. Jesus christ people.

  • h (unregistered)

    Idiocracy at its best. Makes me sad, but then again knew the ending all along.

  • Your Mom (unregistered) in reply to SeaDrive
    SeaDrive:
    This WTF is strong support for the "No School Administrator Left Behind" legislation now before Congress.

    Go soil someone else's tampon, buddy. We don't need you here.

  • Your Mom (unregistered) in reply to SeaDrive
    SeaDrive:
    This WTF is strong support for the "No School Administrator Left Behind" legislation now before Congress.

    Go soil someone else's tampon, buddy. We don't need you here.

  • (cs) in reply to Thunder
    Thunder:
    If you carry, warn them first thing, tell them where the gun is, and offer to provide your permit along with your license [if you live in a place where one is required].
    I was told that this was a good way to get shot right away. The thing to do, as I was told, is to not mention guns unless specifically asked about them. Telling the cop you have a gun may be perceived as a threat.

    In short, if you're from some other country, DON'T VISIT THE US. Unless you're suicidal.

  • SomeCoder (unregistered) in reply to real_aardvark
    real_aardvark:
    campkev:
    SomeCoder:
    Ren:
    I saw the 'aggression' thing coming. A friend of mine was in the US a few years back and had (of course) rented a car to get around in. For some reason or another, they get pulled over, and my friend naturally starts stepping out of the car to talk with the officer.

    One officer proceeds to forcibly shut the door, while the other backs up a few steps and pulls out his gun, aiming carefully at my friend.But nice of them to keep the office open at 7 PM.

    Well, technically, you're not supposed to get out of the car like that if you are pulled over. Turn on the dome light, put both hands on the steering wheel in a visible position and don't get your license or anything out until they ask for it.

    Learned all that from a friend who just became a cop :)

    No, CUSTOMARILY, you are not supposed to get out of the car like that. TECHNICALLY, you have every right to. If I know I have done nothing wrong, I get out. If I know I was speeding or otherwise guilty, I go with the customary, as I am more likely to get off with a warning.

    TECHNICALLY, you might get shot.

    CUSTOMARILY, the courts in many states may well accept an officer's word on the apparent threat you TECHNICALLY posed.

    (I'm thinking of a cop in Denver who took six months' enforced leave after killing his first perp, went back on patrol, and three days later took another six months' leave.)

    Feel free to try this one out yourself. Me, I'd rather stay alive. Wind down window, dome light on, and hands on wheel at all times unless otherwise instructed.

    Agreed, you have a MUCH better chance of just getting a warning if you make sure the cop feels at ease.

    As someone who has a close friend as a cop, I really hate how he could be in danger on any call because people are just stupid.

    Stay in the car, and cooperate. You can always fight the ticket in court if you really feel that you were treated unfairly. On the side of the road is the time to do what the cop tells you (within reason of course).

    Reminds me of the lady in Utah who got a ticket for a brown lawn. If she would have cooperated with the cop, she could have easily got the ticket dismissed in court with no attorney fees or anything. Instead, she resisted and ended up falling and hurting herself. Then it makes national news and everyone feels sorry for her.

    Truth is, she did break the law (the law was stupid but that's another story) and she did resist the officer who was just doing his job.

  • (cs) in reply to Anon
    Anon:
    campkev:
    SomeCoder:
    Ren:
    I saw the 'aggression' thing coming. A friend of mine was in the US a few years back and had (of course) rented a car to get around in. For some reason or another, they get pulled over, and my friend naturally starts stepping out of the car to talk with the officer.

    One officer proceeds to forcibly shut the door, while the other backs up a few steps and pulls out his gun, aiming carefully at my friend.

    But nice of them to keep the office open at 7 PM.

    Well, technically, you're not supposed to get out of the car like that if you are pulled over. Turn on the dome light, put both hands on the steering wheel in a visible position and don't get your license or anything out until they ask for it.

    Learned all that from a friend who just became a cop :)

    No, CUSTOMARILY, you are not supposed to get out of the car like that. TECHNICALLY, you have every right to. If I know I have done nothing wrong, I get out. If I know I was speeding or otherwise guilty, I go with the customary, as I am more likely to get off with a warning.

    This is TRWTF right here.

    "I got pulled over, but I didn't REALLY do anything wrong, I'm going to get out of my car! The cop knows I didn't do anything wrong, he's just pulling me over for the hell of it. He must know I'm not going to come out shooting."

    Stay in your car for the gods' sakes. Is it really that much of a hassle to you to just sit there and let the officer control the situation? If you are in big, crime-filled cities, if you are getting out of your car you better have your hands on your head and moving to kiss the pavement or you risk getting shot. Jesus christ people.

    So TRWTF is that I know my rights and choose to use them? Stereotypes aside, every cop out there isn't some megalomaniacal asshole with an itchy trigger finger. Also, how is the cop more in control of the situation when he can't see 90% of my body including my hands than when he can see 100% and know that I'm not holding a gun?

  • Calli Arcale (unregistered) in reply to Jon

    I had a final in band class. It was on music theory.

    Now, in college the music finals got a lot harder. Fortunately, I was going for a BA. The music majors had to work hard to get their grades. I went to St Olaf College, which only offers two degrees: Bachelor of Arts (in several flavors) and Bachelor of Music. A Bachelor of Music from St Olaf is not easy. You will have final exams in your music classes, and they will not be easy. Even if you're a child prodigy like Mozart, the sheer amount of effort involved will weed out the lazy students.

    Please note, by the way, that final exams can take many different forms. It could be a written exam in a blue book, it could be multiple-choice, it could be a final project (my AP English class in high school gave the option of either doing a written final or a hefty research paper), or, in the case of something like a music class, could be a performance test. Perform several prepared pieces, play or sing specified scales, and sightread a piece of music that you have never seen before. It can be a very challenging and effective test of what the student has learned.

  • Brady Kelly (proudly in Jo'burg) (unregistered) in reply to Bappi
    Bappi:
    Thunder:
    If you carry, warn them first thing, tell them where the gun is, and offer to provide your permit along with your license [if you live in a place where one is required].
    I was told that this was a good way to get shot right away. The thing to do, as I was told, is to not mention guns unless specifically asked about them. Telling the cop you have a gun may be perceived as a threat.

    In short, if you're from some other country, DON'T VISIT THE US. Unless you're suicidal.

    Or just don't drive in the US?

  • WOW (unregistered) in reply to Loren Pechtel

    no it cant happen since you get automatic exemption if your still in school.

  • WOW (unregistered) in reply to Loren Pechtel

    no it cant happen since you get automatic exemption if your still in school.

  • Pro-American (unregistered) in reply to real_aardvark
    real_aardvark:
    campkev:
    SomeCoder:
    Ren:
    I saw the 'aggression' thing coming. A friend of mine was in the US a few years back and had (of course) rented a car to get around in. For some reason or another, they get pulled over, and my friend naturally starts stepping out of the car to talk with the officer.

    One officer proceeds to forcibly shut the door, while the other backs up a few steps and pulls out his gun, aiming carefully at my friend.

    But nice of them to keep the office open at 7 PM.

    Well, technically, you're not supposed to get out of the car like that if you are pulled over. Turn on the dome light, put both hands on the steering wheel in a visible position and don't get your license or anything out until they ask for it.

    Learned all that from a friend who just became a cop :)

    No, CUSTOMARILY, you are not supposed to get out of the car like that. TECHNICALLY, you have every right to. If I know I have done nothing wrong, I get out. If I know I was speeding or otherwise guilty, I go with the customary, as I am more likely to get off with a warning.

    TECHNICALLY, you might get shot.

    CUSTOMARILY, the courts in many states may well accept an officer's word on the apparent threat you TECHNICALLY posed.

    (I'm thinking of a cop in Denver who took six months' enforced leave after killing his first perp, went back on patrol, and three days later took another six months' leave.)

    Feel free to try this one out yourself. Me, I'd rather stay alive. Wind down window, dome light on, and hands on wheel at all times unless otherwise instructed.

    Seconded.

  • Erik (unregistered) in reply to Thunder
    Thunder:
    Ren:
    I saw the 'aggression' thing coming. A friend of mine was in the US a few years back and had (of course) rented a car to get around in. For some reason or another, they get pulled over, and my friend naturally starts stepping out of the car to talk with the officer.
    Is your friend a complete moron? What is with the idiots who think it is "natural", "normal" or "acceptable" to step out of the car in this situation? For all the cop knows, your idiot friend is about to pull out a piece and start shooting.

    The customs of your tribe are not, as it turns out, laws of nature. The fact that we now blithely accept the fact that officers of the law will, in situations that totally fail to warrant it, train their weapons on people whom they have no serious reason to fear, should probably clue you into something.

  • Pro-American (unregistered) in reply to anonny
    anonny:
    WTF did the story writer hope to illustrate by mentioning he was "white" when talking about perceived aggression?

    Racialist, IMO.

    Seconded. Should be edited out, IMO.
  • David Walker (unregistered) in reply to WOW
    WOW:
    no it cant happen since you get automatic exemption if your still in school.

    You mean "if you're still in school". Nevermind the other three errors in that "sentence".

    Maybe you need to still be in school...

  • Underachiever (unregistered) in reply to WOW
    WOW:
    no it cant happen since you get automatic exemption if your still in school.

    Not in all states. Some states allow you request an exemption. Some require you to provide some proof that it will cause inconvenience.

    Your "it cant happen" is a lot less convincing since it did actually happen to me. And two of my friends. Getting $40, an excused absence, and 20 points of extra credit to come down to the courthouse for an hour or boredom is pretty enticing.

  • (cs) in reply to campkev
    campkev:
    So TRWTF is that I know my rights and choose to use them? Stereotypes aside, every cop out there isn't some megalomaniacal asshole with an itchy trigger finger. Also, how is the cop more in control of the situation when he can't see 90% of my body including my hands than when he can see 100% and know that I'm not holding a gun?

    You have the right to get out of the car. But why would you do it? You don't accomplish anything by getting out of the car, and you make the cop nervous. Just stay seated and chill.

  • (cs) in reply to jimmy
    jimmy:
    So, the Exemption Lady was bald with curly graying hair??? wtf?

    I think it would probably have been more accurate to say "thinning hair".

  • (cs) in reply to SuperousOxide
    Anon:
    Well I'm sorry that the teacher inconvenienced you so much by trying to teach you anything. Jackass.
    Keep on blabbing about stuff you know nothing about, man. It's okay; you're anonymous.
    SuperousOxide:
    You'd think once people start paying for their classes, they'd realize the grades aren't the most important thing you get out of it. I hope you didn't have any other courses that needed to build on your 3/5 of a physics class.
    Rest easy there, Supe. I knew what I was doing. I was required to take two science classes for the degree, and I had biology already. The class was on astronomy, was unrelated to anything else I was studying, and was a dry, lifeless, verbatim regurgitation of what was in the textbook. Tests determined whether we were able to memorize statistics from (pick one: a) Class notes; b) the textbook) such as the mass of Mars. The time saved from that class was put to much better use as study time for classes that mattered.
  • Pro-American (unregistered) in reply to campkev
    Anon:
    So TRWTF is that I know my rights and choose to use them? Stereotypes aside, every cop out there isn't some megalomaniacal asshole with an itchy trigger finger. Also, how is the cop more in control of the situation when he can't see 90% of my body including my hands than when he can see 100% and know that I'm not holding a gun?
    During a traffic stop you are required to do what the officer tells you to (within reason). And the cops have EVERY right to pull a gun on you if they suspect you're a threat to them or others. So don't bitch about it when it happens.

    Try to imagine what somebody would have to do to accurately shoot a cop from inside of a car. You would essentially have to turn around, likely duck down a little, etc. This is the kind of thing that would easily stand out for a seasoned cop. They'd get low, call for backup, and before you knew it you'd be swarmed with squad cars.

    Conversely, from outside the vehicle you could easily spray the windshield a few times with nothing to obstruct your aim, get back into your car, and speed away.

    In short, you're generally less of a threat inside the car than you are freely walking around outside the car. As others have said, you have nothing to gain by getting out so just stay seated and await instructions.

  • (cs) in reply to SuperousOxide
    SuperousOxide:
    campkev:
    So TRWTF is that I know my rights and choose to use them? Stereotypes aside, every cop out there isn't some megalomaniacal asshole with an itchy trigger finger. Also, how is the cop more in control of the situation when he can't see 90% of my body including my hands than when he can see 100% and know that I'm not holding a gun?

    You have the right to get out of the car. But why would you do it? You don't accomplish anything by getting out of the car, and you make the cop nervous. Just stay seated and chill.

    Why, because my ass hurt from driving in my car all day. Or maybe my legs have a cramp. Or maybe because I just farted and want to get rid of the smell. Or maybe just because it's my RIGHT to do it and I don't need a reason or permission to do it. And maybe because I know that those who don't exercise their rights tend to lose them. I know this goes against "the norm" but I will get out of my car whenever the hell I feel like it. If you choose to live your life like a pansy, cowering in your car until the officer gives you permission to get out, be my guest. It's a free country. For now.

  • Monster (unregistered) in reply to akatherder

    I did the same thing, although my WTF is that he died.

  • (cs) in reply to Brady Kelly (proudly in Jo'burg)
    Brady Kelly (proudly in Jo'burg):
    Bappi:
    I was told that this was a good way to get shot right away. The thing to do, as I was told, is to not mention guns unless specifically asked about them. Telling the cop you have a gun may be perceived as a threat.

    In short, if you're from some other country, DON'T VISIT THE US. Unless you're suicidal.

    Or just don't drive in the US?

    If you're not driving, you must be walking. Anybody who walks in the US is automatically suspect.

  • (cs) in reply to campkev
    campkev:
    If you choose to live your life like a pansy, cowering in your car until the officer gives you permission to get out, be my guest. It's a free country. For now.
    Epitaph: "Here lies campkev, who was exercising his rights when he was violently cut down in the prime of his life."
  • SomeCoder (unregistered) in reply to campkev
    campkev:
    SuperousOxide:
    campkev:
    So TRWTF is that I know my rights and choose to use them? Stereotypes aside, every cop out there isn't some megalomaniacal asshole with an itchy trigger finger. Also, how is the cop more in control of the situation when he can't see 90% of my body including my hands than when he can see 100% and know that I'm not holding a gun?

    You have the right to get out of the car. But why would you do it? You don't accomplish anything by getting out of the car, and you make the cop nervous. Just stay seated and chill.

    Why, because my ass hurt from driving in my car all day. Or maybe my legs have a cramp. Or maybe because I just farted and want to get rid of the smell. Or maybe just because it's my RIGHT to do it and I don't need a reason or permission to do it. And maybe because I know that those who don't exercise their rights tend to lose them. I know this goes against "the norm" but I will get out of my car whenever the hell I feel like it. If you choose to live your life like a pansy, cowering in your car until the officer gives you permission to get out, be my guest. It's a free country. For now.

    By all means, do whatever you want. It's not like everyone is telling you that you absolutely must remain in the car by law.

    However, the best advice is to remain in the car, take the ticket and then assert your rights in a place that we have specifically designed to do so: court in front of a judge.

  • A Person (unregistered) in reply to Pro-American

    Meh. If you don't find black people to be more aggressive than whites you've obviously never lived in a large city with a lot of black people. "Racialist"? More like "realistic".

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