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I should do both cause my winders are never square. I swaer!
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He may well have been in the right to be frustrated, but screaming at people in a business environment is never the right decision. If the people who work under you frustrate you to such a great degree that you find yourself losing it like that on any kind of a regular basis, you need to either get counseling or find more competent workers.
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What would they need anything else for? They can lock up any superpowered being they want.
Bad idea to let Sylar out, though.
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It's kind of like going around asking people if they wanna screw....you are going to get slapped (metaphorically if not physically) most of the time... but most isn't all and the exceptions are worth considering.
In one case I was told that junior people don't know the realities of management (in other words "know your place, peon"). I quit a few months after that and 5 years later got a call from the CEO asking me to come back, take over the department I'd offered to take over, and rescue the company. I did (but it wasn't just a 50% bump at that point) and it worked out quite well...he was able to sell the company for a non-zero amount because of my efforts and everyone won.
In another case the CEO was all for it, but, "I can't fire him, he's a part owner in the company."
I haven't actually seen it truly work work but I'm sure if I kept trying that little stunt I'd finally find a CEO without an excuse. I haven't had cause to pull that trick in a while though.
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really man, if it didn't there would be no WTF!
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Why didn't the lead dev implement the changes??
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Because things hadn't "stablized yet".
By which I bet he meant the old catch-22: "WHEN the development gets done on time and we aren't buried in work and the software isn't swiss cheese with bugs THEN we'll consider improving the development process."
Why not change it? Lack of time. Why lack of time? Because we don't change it. Why not change it? Lack of time. Why lack of time? Because we don't change it. ...
...ad sickitum..
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I mean, most of these ideas take some work to implement, but to continue using a 30-minute build script when a better build system is already set up and ready to go? That settles it.
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Haha, no doubt about it! Although I miss the small company atmosphere...
Dealing directly with customers (ouch), getting yelled at by the General Manager when nobody even understands a bit of what goes on in "that other world"... Deadlines set without any input from the developers... No specifications.
Ha, that aside: I do miss the ability to work unhindered, without being wrapped in so much red tape you can barely flick the mouse over to submit that one line of code that you are 100% CERTAIN won't destroy anything. Software gets bloated by fast-paced demands without the time spent to work off the fat. A multitude of years spent bloating, where it grows as fast as Corporate desires it to! Call me sadistic, but I kinda enjoy it. (You get some wicked spaghetti, let me tell you)
Then again, I do like the processes at the large Corporation. Once you know how to follow along, it is actually not that bad. I mostly regret losing the power I once had, to create from scratch, full-scale applications with only a couple other developers.
Tough decisions...
Stress & Fun vs. Less Stress & Less Fun...
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After 158 years, management has probably changed, bringing a new "get rich now, and screw the log term" attitude to the company - oh wait, like everyone else...
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Sometimes you almost wish you had some middle management as a buffer to these C?O's.
That being said, I think small companies are way more likely to be chocked full of WTF's. If they did things right, they wouldn't stay small for long, would they?
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I've never found a good way of dealing with it. My first approach, going to my immediate manager and saying "The CTO gave me this work", was stymied by the CTO saying "Don't tell your boss anything, just do the job."
Now I have many years of experience and self-confidence, my response would be something like "if you're not happy for my boss to know what you are doing then that makes me think that you are doing something underhanded, something I want no part of. In any case, my manager sets my time schedule and if you are adding to my workload then I am obliged to tell my manager so he can readjust my schedule." Of course, now that I have years of experience and self-confidence, the top managers don't pull this stunt on me.
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We're doomed!
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Sounds familiar too. When I started my current job I was shocked that there was no established workflow control system, nothing to keep track of builds except after they are finalized and submitted to carriers (I work with mobile apps, so we create about 120 seperate ports of each title). QA consisted of sending an e-mail to a lone tester, who would more often than not, delete the e-mail or build file (which you would then have to rebuild). I could go on with the lack of things we had, but you get the idea. Eventually I developed my own build management software during breaks, to make my life easier, and regularly presented it to various people in the department (mainly the Technical director). The answer was always "Wow that looks really useful. You're right, we need to improve the way we do things. I'll look into you system in more detail later, once we've got less to do".
After about a year, I decided that I just don't care anymore. I no longer make suggestions for improvements... if they want to do things a stupid and inefficient way, I'm happy to ablige. Hoping to hear back from my latest job aplications now...
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Claxon, no WTF here. 120 mobile ports means they are J2ME, so you can't get benefits from using control systems. Typical mobile projects are "fire-and-forget", most of them doesn't need to be supported. With average development time 2-3 months, and single person code owning, there is no need to overhead. We working here for YEARS and still leading mobile developers. Just network share and .bat files ;)
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I have a briliant idea what to write to this comment. I am sure, you will make a best comment contest only to declare me a winner.
A will write it just when things stabilize a bit.
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Oh yes you CAN work without them - I'm at a well known publisher, that's been working this way for years. At my last job, producing new ports was essentially a few clicks - we had a database of handset specs that fed into the build system and configured most of the build itself, then uploaded each build onto our server. Now on the other hand, it's a big manual process and so much of my time is spent resending builds that have been lost or misplaced. Bug reports were made by the tester approaching the programmer and telling us. If we are very, VERY lucky, he'll also type the bug into an e-mail...
I'd quit but the grief I'd get from my family for leaving without a replacement job would probbly be more stressful than staying. It's a very close call though. Don't you just hate mobile games?
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Ive got Tabs on Irish girl.....now if i can just get them to line up i will be happy ;)
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I propose the above comment be posted now so that things can stabilise....
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OMG! I was John at my last company! And the one before that too! The author must be stalking me. :)
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8th. Just becuare Primatech didn't "reward" idea #7 doesn't mean it wasn't good.
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True. But one would like to think that the CEO could find a more effective way of addressing / remediating the "dev team's nonsense." Who works for who (whom?) after?
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Obviously the inner cadre of the development team are conspiring to drive the CEO completely and utterly insane. "Gaslighting" him, if you will.
Perhaps John's manager has his eye on an executive spot, and the CEO is standing in the way of his promotion. Maybe the CEO was rogering the dev manager's wife. Or, perhaps the CEO is a communist sympathizer and the dev team has been populated with CIA who are slowly and subtlely steering the poor CEO into a heart attack.
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No way to win if you don't spell brilliant right. It's "brillant" over here. :)
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Anyway a hundred bucks for the 'monthly greatest idea' - what a load of patronising sh!t
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Once you are unafraid to quit your done, you are free to do anything. If the guy was willing to quit, why not ignore the boss and just implement the idea? What exactly was he waiting for or were these suggestion too time intensive to simply implement? It's easier to ask for forgiveness than permissions. And if you already want to quit, well, when you have nothing to lose you are free to do ANYTHING.
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LOL, things are not always as they appear. Never have been, never will be. Smoke and mirrors in the beginning.
Jiff http://www.anonymize.us.tc
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"Oh oh oh! I have the bestest mostest greatestest idea ever!"
"Fire the development manager for incompetence!"
"Ok, where's my $100?"
"Clean out my desk? What do you mean? It's already clean."
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Well, don't keep us in suspense... did he win $100 for his excellent idea of leaving the company?
Captcha: eros
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This is because developers are idiots. If they were smart, their jobs wouldn't be going to India. Just sayin'.
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Greatest idea of the month contest results in me implimenting one decent idea a month and farting around the other 27-30 days, as opposed to implementing "great" ideas constantly until a sane development environment is reached.
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Is this the part where the CEO threatens to slaughter your girlfriend, butler, and assorted random people in the restaurant?
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Now with registered goodness (some schmuck took my username)
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That'd be a hoot - how long can you last teaching them to talk like a rap video? Alternately, upper class english twit...
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that story is like a thriller without any hint to the murder. We miss the big "why"!
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quite a long time - i would say ... did you ever try to talk like a rap video while gritting your teeth?
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PB:This is because developers are idiots. If they were smart, their jobs wouldn't be going to India. Just sayin'. ...........................................................
What BS! It's a cost thing is it not. You get 3 (crap) developers in India for the price of a starbucks in the uk.
On the original post... don't be bullied at work.. either by big tough managerial bullies, or cheeky wee techy brain bullies.
Ask them into the car park and kick seven colours of sh1t from them
EOR
El Mundo
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I am working at a fantastic workplace -- despite my boss (founder, CTO) written the very first version he stopped coding years ago and listens and like sensible change. Just saying. And yes, it's a small place. And yes, we use svn, trac and common sense :)
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The idea of demistration here is very vag. To get serious people to respond appropriately on a serious topic you may try putting emphasis on the specific topic you are trying to get ideas from. I have had over 250 inventions and creations I have thought up and designed only because my mind works in design to do so however, each design has a plan and every plan has meaning. To have no meaning and no plan of action of what you are trying to get ideas on, builds up alot of horse container of nothingness. (if i am to out there on this forgive me)... An example, an idea on saving money, start with recycle as most people do, then on bottom line essentials and then waist time and company money but what they dont realize is improvements speed up time and create money as well as developement, organization and customer relations skills of continuous improvement backed by stablitiy and long term goals to make a company performance rating top the roof. people never see those things. An idea on a car is a window that glides down instead of rolls or falls and how old are window wipers, whos inventing(continued)
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Ok, I have not had a name for myself or the money to back any of my ideas up being poor but one thing I have learned over the years is never give up. From Paint on nails... invented 7 yrs after i wondered why we dont do that, to tree wrap that decomposes and wears out as the tree grows to the lap top with a removeable cordless monitor, to the coffee cup that warms itself, and the truck that seats 50 in the back for transporting troops from one place to another, inventions are all over the place we just havent invented them yet. If someone wants ideas, I would be more than willing to make a company grow while protection of my life with stable funding as a goal oriented person would have done many years ago. Ideas are out there. Choose wisely where you get them off of. It's about the choice... design, build, create goes with power, decision, choice. know where your heart lies. you decide. try to find what can not be found. -looking for more writer,designer, artist, poet, operator, observationist and knowing an improvement can be made in feeling inside, trainer of all, and more... [email protected] facebook karen koca
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Sometimes the worlds best idea is the simplest, such as set a list of ideas for every idea about to be made. Create, Design, Plan, and more. The average inventor would look at 100 dollars as nothing for an invention that would make a million dollar revenue. Look at the stock market, a list of money dollars and cents in and out of a corporation that goes up and down when one could choose to be all the more creative in investment of money in form of relocation status of funding provided by money market accounts in the us and abroad. The world is a crazy messed up place where one wave washes away dollars and every minute someone reaches out for more, breath in the air and light up the sun, travel on wheels is not necessary there is more to be done! "---look at the moon, !!!go father!!!. dont be like everyone else! life does not stop there" -karen m. koca