• Franz Kafka (unregistered) in reply to Whiskey, Eh?
    Whiskey:
    It takes you more than 10 minutes to shave and change into some nice clothes?

    Hey, if you call someone for an interview with a half hour notice, taht's waht you get.

  • ajtacka (unregistered) in reply to ARMed but harmless
    ARMed but harmless:
    Barry J:
    Ajtacka:
    Personally, I'd hate to work somewhere with a suit-level dress code. Why? Coz I'm a jeans-and-tshirt kinda girl.

    OH MY GOD ITS A GIRL EVERYONE ACT NORMAL!!!!!!!!

    Too late. Ajtacka, marry me! Yup, way too late.
    Yup, too late... already got the ring my finger, I'm afraid! :) (Actually still getting used to it, it's only been there 2 weeks!)

  • (cs)

    I got halfway through the first story and thought "shoot, now mine will never get published, that's way too similar". The changes were just enough to put me off. It was mostly intact though, but with swearing removed and orange tan added. Edit: Unless there's another Ray Smith, I was also misattributed for the 2nd submission too. I blame Steve.

  • (cs) in reply to El Bastardo
    El Bastardo:
    Andrew in a Suit:
    While all you geeks are arguing about the technical merits of a piece of cloth, you have missed the point that wearing a suit is worth an extra 25% on your salary. In consultancy, you can't easily get more than a couple of hundred a day without one.

    I make almost $800/day and I do it in shorts and a t-shirt.

    Zimbabwean dollars don't count.

  • Luis Espinal (unregistered) in reply to Andrew in a Suit
    Andrew in a Suit:
    While all you geeks are arguing about the technical merits of a piece of cloth, you have missed the point that wearing a suit is worth an extra 25% on your salary. In consultancy, you can't easily get more than a couple of hundred a day without one.

    Not true. I was a consultant for about 10 years, each day making several hundred $ a day (with consultancy fees increases every year).

    I only wore suits during interviews, and only one consulting gig (back in 2001) required me to wear long sleeves and slacks (no jeans except on casual Fridays.)

    There are some lucrative consulting gigs where we must use a suit - meeting executives, having top-notch skills in in some niche tech areas where you get called because no one else in house can fix some shit that is broken and is bleeding the company a ton of money.

    FOR THAT, I can see the argument. But there are a lot of consulting gigs that can EASILY pay $268/day (the equivalent of $70K) just for starters without requiring a suit.

    The average consultancy work is certainly above $300/day. People making $400-500 (or even more) while wearing jeans is not unheard off.

    On another note, the last time I was required to wear a tie was from 1995 to 1998 (my first full-time software job), and it was as an employee, not a consultant.

    Having said that, I have to agree with you in my bewilderment with the herds (not hordes, but herds) of unwashed geeks who seem allergic to the notion of using a suit.

    Grow the hell up people. Anyone short of being a singularity of ugliness looks good and professional with a suit. And you don't work in a suit, you simply wear it to meet customers. Then you take it off, you roll your sleeves, unfasten the belt and the tie a little and you get to work.

    And for those of you who insist in coming to work with sandals, by God, clip those toenails and remove whatever sandy, mold-ridden green/gray bacterial mat that is underneath them.

    The rest of us normal humans with a sense of hygiene can see that crap a mile a way. Clean that crap, you don't need it for programming.

  • Artur (unregistered) in reply to Dank

    Just for sake of nitpicking, you DO IMPLEMENT interfaces in abstract classes. They probably asked why you extend interface in another interface, not in abstract class.

  • (cs) in reply to Markp
    Markp:
    Boss:
    Anyway... When do we get to hear the prostitute joke? ... Anyone got one?
    What did the prostitute say when she walked into a bar?

    ANSWER>>Ouch!<<ANSWER

    What do you call a prostitute with a runny nose?

    ANSWER>>Full!<<ANSWER

  • Parsifal (unregistered) in reply to Dank

    I was on the giving end of an interview which could have gone this way. As it happens, these applicants didn't know the answers as the primary criterion was whether they would work for 1/2 my rate or less. Since I disdained to give them the answers, my recommendation was no-hire to all, and also to get a better recruiting firm. Naturally, my replacement was hired over my objections. Last time I checked, the company's stock was in the toilet after a severe service level agreement-impacting production issue.

  • Ika B (unregistered) in reply to Josephus
    Josephus:
    Ika B - regular contributor?

    Actually a first timer

  • rf (unregistered) in reply to Dank
    Dank:
    why you need to extend an interface in an abstract class declaration instead of implement

    says who?

  • Invader_ACE (unregistered) in reply to Dank
    Dank:
    I once had an interview very similar to the third one. I came in a little early and the boss who was still busy, so instead of just having me wait, he detailed two of the junior programmers to ask me some questions about Java. I knew most, but got stumped on some (like why you need to extend an interface in an abstract class declaration instead of implement). They kindly explained the answers. Then, once the boss came in and asked me the exact same questions, I now knew all the them down pat.

    Uhm, if you try to write 'abstract class extends <interface name>' you will get an error as a class cannot extend an interface. A simple test with a javac will show you so. Or reading jls. An abstract class implementing an interface need not implement any method however.

  • Marclurr (unregistered) in reply to Dank

    "(like why you need to extend an interface in an abstract class declaration instead of implement)"

    This is wrong, you implement an interface in an abstract class in the same way you would a regular class, the only difference if you don't actually have to implement the methods, that can be left down to the concrete implementation..

  • Hannes (unregistered)

    The third story reminds me a lot of my latest job interview.

    I just finished my studies at the University (business informatics) and was eager to find a job, to finally earn some money. I sent a few job applications to a few companies and had a pretty good hit rate of getting job interviews.

    Knowing that job interviews are my weak point, I prepared very thoroughly for every one of them. Reading about the company and what they do, reading about job interviews in general, preparing questions that I can ask, and so on.

    Since I was applying for a software developer/administrator kind of position, I also looked at some programs that people where required to code during interviews (like fizzbuzz).

    The interviews I had where pretty much the standard procedure. Nothing out of the ordinary. But one job interview stood out to be pretty... interesting.

    I arrived on time, was greeted very warmly, got offered something to drink ("Coffe? Tea? Water?"). Then the interview began.

    First question: "Do you know what we do?"

    • "Yes," I answered. I explained what I read on the web site and that I thought that it was really important and so on (leaving a good impression, and showing my interest in the company) The interviewer sat down. "What do you want to know?" was the second question I was asked. So, I asked one of the questions I prepared for. After the interviewer finished answering the question, she just sat there full of expectation for my next question... which I asked. After the question was answered, it was my turn again to ask another one. I became a bit nervous... THIS is a job interview? Why doesn't she aks ME some questions then? After about 15 minutes I thought it was time to end this, so I said something like "Okay, I think I got a pretty good picture about your company".

    Luckily, the interviewer then got someone from the IT to join the interview. I expected to answer some questions myself now. But the IT guy only told me some stuff about what they do there.

    Conclusion: I spent about 20 minutes on this interview. It was ME who was asking all the questions. In the end, I got a job offer (which I accepted, btw). But it was a very strange job interview nevertheless...

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