• xeno (unregistered)

    I look forward with eager anticipation, to an outraged commentator insisting the John is following the One True Model, and how the qualifications of his critics must be worthless. It'll be even funnier than the fellows who thought the application layer should go in the database.

  • Bad William (unregistered) in reply to RoverDaddy
    RoverDaddy:
    Captcha: verto - I've seen this one before. Are we short of captchas?
    Obviously we need more. I recommend that we get captchas that will appeal to the 12 year old boys in the Audience, like "bottom" and "kumquat".

    Captcha: "genitus". Heh heh. Heh heh heh. They said "genitus".

  • Franz Kafka (unregistered) in reply to KeithJM
    KeithJM:
    justsomedude :
    so nobody noticed all that 135-139/445 port traffic

    You're right, you'd think a halfway competent Senior System Administrator would have noticed that.

    A halfway competent admin would limit access to shares that partners could access and such shares would at the least be windows file share over vpn or some sort of ssl, authenticated website (i dunno, sharepoint?) instead of ftp open to the world with everything and sundry in a single place.

  • monkey (unregistered)
    Don't like making money do you? The correct answer is: "I can help you, we can get this resolved, my bill rate is $* p/h with a minimum of 4 hours."
    Infinite money... per HOUR?
  • yeah (unregistered)

    John is an idiot.

  • Tootie (unregistered) in reply to North Bus
    North Bus:
    Anon:
    You meant to say opportunity.

    http://www.dilbert.com/fast/2009-09-24/

    There is a Dilbert/fast?

    Thank you, sir. You have enabled me to further ruin my productivity. Now with fastness.

    It's because the main Dilbert website was 'redesigned' and is now overload with flash and **** slow.

    This is just the comics, none of the other bull****.

  • rast (unregistered) in reply to North Bus
    North Bus:
    Anon:
    You meant to say opportunity.

    http://www.dilbert.com/fast/2009-09-24/

    There is a Dilbert/fast?

    Thank you, sir. You have enabled me to further ruin my productivity. Now with fastness.

    I miss the days when every site was like that.

  • Bob (unregistered) in reply to Georgem
    Georgem:
    Problem with that is, it leaves organisations horrendously exposed to employees arranging things such that, once they've left, their services suddenly become required again, at inflated rates
    Only if you're the sort of idiot manager who allows that to happen in the first place.

    A competent manager would take one look at the employee's deliberate screwing around, and quietly suggest that attempting that sort of thing again is why they'll be an ex-employee.

    Hell, a competent manager would look at any area and think things like "if this employee gets another job or wins the lottery or gets run over, we're screwed - we need a plan so that we can survive without that employee." Then because you have employees who can cover for each other, when that employee leaves you can cope for a while til you find a replacement.

    Lack of competent managers is, of course, quite common but its such a reliable source of much greater problems that this problem is irrelevant anyway.

  • nemo (unregistered) in reply to Bob
    Bob:
    A competent manager who also happens to be a programmer or system administrator (and possibly a unicorn) and understands what they're looking at would take one look at the employee's deliberate screwing around, and quietly suggest that attempting that sort of thing again is why they'll be an ex-employee.

    There, I fixed that for you.

  • (cs) in reply to nemo
    The people were nice, they appreciated the work he did, and the commute was fine.

    These three never happen in the same job.

  • Xythar (unregistered)

    Good WTF, but what the heck happened to that one conversation in the Too Much Sharing section? Looks like it was due to receive some much-needed formatting, line breaks and punctuation but never did.

  • J.R. Blood (unregistered) in reply to Zapp Brannigan
    Zapp Brannigan:
    That's not efficient, can't they give customers the on-line bank account log-in information? Or at least a debit card and PIN.
    The CO's account info would greatly improve the processing time. Just think how much faster things would run! Why bother going through the accounting office? And think of all the trees that would be saved!

    /me goes back to thumping his head and wanting to drive over "John"

  • Steve the Cynic (unregistered) in reply to MichaelWH
    MichaelWH:
    The people were nice, they appreciated the work he did, and the commute was fine.

    These three never happen in the same job.

    And they didn't happen for Ken either... They didn't appreciate the work he did, because they didn't pay him properly for it. People who don't pay you properly aren't nice.

    So that leaves the commute. We'd have to let Ken be the judge of that.

  • anon (unregistered) in reply to Bob
    Bob:
    Hmmm, some lovely people on here today.

    Karma will catch up with you...

    No. Asking other people to do your own bloody work is evil. Refusing to do other people's work without proper compensation is good business.

  • Lee K-T (unregistered) in reply to Bob
    Bob:
    Georgem:
    Problem with that is, it leaves organisations horrendously exposed to employees arranging things such that, once they've left, their services suddenly become required again, at inflated rates
    Only if you're the sort of idiot manager who allows that to happen in the first place.

    A competent manager would take one look at the employee's deliberate screwing around, and quietly suggest that attempting that sort of thing again is why they'll be an ex-employee.

    Hell, a competent manager would look at any area and think things like "if this employee gets another job or wins the lottery or gets run over, we're screwed - we need a plan so that we can survive without that employee." Then because you have employees who can cover for each other, when that employee leaves you can cope for a while til you find a replacement.

    Lack of competent managers is, of course, quite common but its such a reliable source of much greater problems that this problem is irrelevant anyway.

    Well chances are that if he was competent he wouldn't be a manager

  • Elvis (unregistered) in reply to groundcontrol
    groundcontrol:
    so even after leaving the company for several months, former employees could still remote login to the system? wtf

    That's what I thought. Of course the Senior System Administrator probably just forgot to disable the former guys login when he left.

  • bigbird (unregistered) in reply to wow
    wow:
    don't cell phones always ring suddenly?

    Brace yourself for a lecture from cyborg and/or jay about being a "Grammar Nazi" and/or ""idioms" and "figures of speech" and "jokes" that are not literally accurate but are intended to convey an impression."

  • Lee K-T (unregistered) in reply to Anon
    wow:
    don't cell phones always ring suddenly?

    Actually when someone calls me my CD player speakers usually warn me 1-2 second before with an "imperial prob"ish sound.

  • P. Edant (unregistered) in reply to Lee K-T
    Lee K-T:
    wow:
    don't cell phones always ring suddenly?

    Actually when someone calls me my CD player speakers usually warn me 1-2 second before with an "imperial prob"ish sound.

    Yes but it does that suddenly, doesn't it?

  • the beholder (unregistered) in reply to wow
    wow:
    don't cell phones always ring suddenly?
    Depending on the caller, there could be a creepy music playing right before the call. That's usual in horror movies.

    [post attempt #3]

  • (cs) in reply to groundcontrol
    groundcontrol:
    so even after leaving the company for several months, former employees could still remote login to the system? wtf

    That is what I was considering TRWTF.

  • Jay (unregistered) in reply to Steve the Cynic
    Steve the Cynic:
    MichaelWH:
    The people were nice, they appreciated the work he did, and the commute was fine.

    These three never happen in the same job.

    And they didn't happen for Ken either... They didn't appreciate the work he did, because they didn't pay him properly for it. People who don't pay you properly aren't nice.

    So that leaves the commute. We'd have to let Ken be the judge of that.

    A friend of mine once told me that he complained to his boss that the boss didn't show enough appreciation for the work he did. And the boss replied, "The company gives you its appreciation twice a month." (That being the pay schedule.)

  • Jay (unregistered) in reply to wow
    wow:
    don't cell phones always ring suddenly?

    A few years ago there were a series of TV ads around here for a telephone that would notify you when someone was about to call. And on the commercial, they showed the phone saying "Someone is about to call", pause, and then it began ringing.

    I'm sure the phone just intercepted the first ring and played the "someone is about to call message", maybe ignored the second ring to give the pause, and then started ringing. But it was a cool gimmick! Probably got tedious after the first few dozens calls, but neat for when you have visitors.

  • värttinä (unregistered) in reply to Severity One
    Severity One:
    The real WTF is that you can't trust people these days. I remember the time that you could do a telnet to a .mil machine and get a Unix login prompt.

    Of course, these days you would get a time-out, a ride in an unmarked vehicle or black helicopter, and some time in an undisclosed interrogation facility.

    I read that at first as "irrigation facility" and couldn't make sense of it...

  • myself (unregistered) in reply to värttinä

    I read that at first as "irrigation facility" and couldn't make sense of it...

    Yeah, its all that water-boarding.

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  • Jaysunn (unregistered) in reply to groundcontrol
    groundcontrol:
    so even after leaving the company for several months, former employees could still remote login to the system? wtf

    Yeah WTF,

    So he had a backdoor the whole time. Real nice.

    Jaysunn

  • Kirby L. Wallace (unregistered)

    It's not at all unusual for former employees to continue helping out the former employer. I do it myself all the time because I just recently quit consulting and contracting to settle into a FTE. But I have a dozen (previous) clients who want nothing to do with any other consultant or contractor that the consultancy or agency sends over.

    They've invested time - sometimes, years - in building a relationship with me, and they don't want to start over with someone else.

    So for a couple of them, I'm still their "on call" sysadmin. My current employer is cool with it so long as I get my job done for them.

    Captcha: appellatio.

    Uhmmmm... a WHAT? You can get arrested for doin' that in public!

  • undefined (unregistered) in reply to Jay
    Jay:
    I'm sure the phone just intercepted the first ring and played the "someone is about to call message", maybe ignored the second ring to give the pause, and then started ringing.

    TRWTF is that there are people who think that there are "rings" in cellphone↔network communication like in analog wired phones...

  • (cs) in reply to rast
    rast:
    North Bus:
    Anon:
    You meant to say opportunity.

    http://www.dilbert.com/fast/2009-09-24/

    There is a Dilbert/fast?

    Thank you, sir. You have enabled me to further ruin my productivity. Now with fastness.

    I miss the days when every site was like that.

    Install NoScript. Uninstall flash and shockwave.

    All the sites that continue to work will be fast like that. Of course, they may not be pretty...

    Addendum (2009-10-03 13:43): Err, most of the sites that continue to work will be fast like that. There will be a few pathological sites that do really crazy things, such as including 100k 0px gifs, which will not be so fast.

  • The departing Sysadmin (unregistered)

    I'm now leaving a small company where I was their sysadmin and am now... training their new... sysadmin.

    If because of the last phrase you thought I have serious doubts about the competence of the new... sysadmin, you'd be right. It's only been two days since I met him and yet I'm already fearing for the future of the company.

    Doing something as simple as changing the default Outlook data file makes him go "Weeeell, I'm not sure I should be doing this... You see, I've never done it before...".

    Doing something as simple as changing an email account's password on the company's hosting control panel makes him go "Woah there, I'm new here! Should I really be touching the cpanel like that?!".

    If these two were the only occurences it wouldn't be so bad - but they're not. On the up side I fully expect to make it to the frontpage of The Daily WTF in the very near future - and I'll owe it all to the new sysadmin.

  • v.dog (unregistered) in reply to Unregistered
    groundcontrol:
    so even after leaving the company for several months, former employees could still remote login to the system? wtf
    justsomedude:
    TRWTF is Kenneth didn't submit an invoice.
    Clearly Kenneth saw a client. He simply went in and updated payroll.xls
  • v.dog (unregistered) in reply to v.dog

    the previous post was borked. Please ignore it.

    groundcontrol:
    so even after leaving the company for several months, former employees could still remote login to the system? wtf
    justsomedude:
    TRWTF is Kenneth didn't submit an invoice.
    Clearly, Kenneth was a client. He simply went in and updated payroll.xls

  • JonTurner (unregistered)

    I'm simply relieved they don' employ junior sysadmins.

  • (cs)
    Code Slave:
    anonymous coward:
    groundcontrol:
    so even after leaving the company for several months, former employees could still remote login to the system? wtf

    QFMT

    Also, Kenneth works for free. How nice. My answer would have been "I am no longer working here. Good luck."

    I've still had access to former employers systems, with explicit understandings such as "Oh, and my rate will be $X/h; minimum 3h per task" (basically anything more than a 5 minute phone call). It all depends on whether you leave on good or bad terms. You don't want to cripple them, but you do want them to learn to take care of themselves again.

    Sounds like one of my old jobs. Nobody had the sufficient Linux expertise to maintain the 2 Linux "servers" I had set up at their clients' premises, so I was left with root's password for these boxen. Of course, any maintenance would mean I'd get a service fee, but at least their servers weren't totally abandoned.

    BTW, this "networked folder" solution reminded me eerily of another case... actual sensitive documents were being uploaded to the company's website. Nobody seemed to think that was dangerous...

  • AndyC (unregistered) in reply to The departing Sysadmin
    The departing Sysadmin:
    If these two were the only occurences it wouldn't be so bad - but they're not. On the up side I fully expect to make it to the frontpage of The Daily WTF in the very near future - and I'll owe it all to the new sysadmin.

    Hehe, at least he's getting some training. I'm currently also a departing sysadmin, working out the full three months notice period that exists to ensure things will always transistion smoothly. Naturally, to save wasting money on overstaffing it would seem, they have decided to interview for my replacement on the last day I work there.

    Epic failure ahead, methinks.

  • Arnold (unregistered)

    Why would you call your trojan Trojan.JS.PYV. Isn't that silly?

  • Anonymous (unregistered) in reply to Arnold
    Arnold:
    Why would you call your trojan Trojan.JS.PYV. Isn't that silly?
    That's just the formal name. His friends call him Timothy.
  • batt (unregistered) in reply to Matt
    Matt:
    Been there. Had that frantic early AM call that "the websites are down" only to find our sales management had shared the admin user account with "everyone" because it "worked so well to transfer files" and our webserver's hard drives were 99% full of pirated MP3's.
    WTF were you thinking giving it to them?
  • oppeto (unregistered) in reply to rast
    rast:
    North Bus:
    Anon:
    You meant to say opportunity.

    http://www.dilbert.com/fast/2009-09-24/

    There is a Dilbert/fast?

    Thank you, sir. You have enabled me to further ruin my productivity. Now with fastness.

    I miss the days when every site was like that.

    QFT.

  • ShortBus (unregistered) in reply to tgape
    tgape:
    rast:
    North Bus:
    Anon:
    You meant to say opportunity.

    http://www.dilbert.com/fast/2009-09-24/

    There is a Dilbert/fast?

    Thank you, sir. You have enabled me to further ruin my productivity. Now with fastness.

    I miss the days when every site was like that.

    Install NoScript. Uninstall flash and shockwave.

    All the sites that continue to work will be fast like that. Of course, they may not be pretty...

    You can count those on the hands of one arm. Web developers are worse than lawyers.

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