• (cs) in reply to Nagesh
    Nagesh feke:
    In Hindi, word read seme upside down and rite side up.

    that is obvoius lye.

  • Coffee Hound (unregistered) in reply to In the wrong line of work.
    In the wrong line of work.:
    Severity One:
    the wage of a train driver working for the national railways is around €100,000
    A train driver makeing ~$135K ? Damn.
    Ya this is incredible! Where is this, in Greece? Good lord, and that takes what kind of training? And.... Gah!

    On a side note, these side note arguments about Myriad, and the Euro are what made and continue to make this site fun. The new bath of trolls here tend to take over every comment section lately though, it's sad. I miss the TopC0d3r days.. sigh....

  • (cs) in reply to Coffee Hound
    Coffee Hound:
    In the wrong line of work.:
    Severity One:
    the wage of a train driver working for the national railways is around €100,000
    A train driver makeing ~$135K ? Damn.
    Ya this is incredible! Where is this, in Greece? Good lord, and that takes what kind of training? And.... Gah!

    On a side note, these side note arguments about Myriad, and the Euro are what made and continue to make this site fun. The new bath of trolls here tend to take over every comment section lately though, it's sad. I miss the TopC0d3r days.. sigh....

    I have work with severe lawyers and let me asure you that working with lawyer is veyr dificult. Frist they curse a lot and meke use of "F" word all the time. Also all lawyer meke very confusing request not understandable by comon man.

    As side note, i discover that if you bring your monitor to eye level it produce less neck strain. So keep monitor at eye level and don't strane your neck to look up or feel tire by look down. Look strait at monitor and not up or down.
  • (cs) in reply to LMC
    LMC:
    Expert:
    honnza:
    Myriad means 10^4, exactly and always, just as million means 10^6. The fact that people tend to use high numbers figuratively (usually in plural) is not going to change this.

    Wrong. Original meaning of myriad is infinite, countless.

    10000 is arbitrary impossible large number, like, myriad people come to your party (you can't have 10000 friends)

    You're wrong.

    Myriad come from the greek "myrias" that means 10.000

    Origin does not necessarily define current usage. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Etymological_fallacy (and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Myriad while you're there)

  • Nagesh (unregistered) in reply to Nagesh
    Nagesh:
    Coffee Hound:
    In the wrong line of work.:
    Severity One:
    the wage of a train driver working for the national railways is around €100,000
    A train driver makeing ~$135K ? Damn.
    Ya this is incredible! Where is this, in Greece? Good lord, and that takes what kind of training? And.... Gah!

    On a side note, these side note arguments about Myriad, and the Euro are what made and continue to make this site fun. The new bath of trolls here tend to take over every comment section lately though, it's sad. I miss the TopC0d3r days.. sigh....

    I have work with severe lawyers and let me asure you that working with lawyer is veyr dificult. Frist they curse a lot and meke use of "F" word all the time. Also all lawyer meke very confusing request not understandable by comon man.

    As side note, i discover that if you bring your monitor to eye level it produce less neck strain. So keep monitor at eye level and don't strane your neck to look up or feel tire by look down. Look strait at monitor and not up or down.
    u r having 2 smal monitor, school-boy haker!
  • Thayla (unregistered) in reply to ParkinT

    I just wish it were a joke... As an IT person who worked in a law office in the 90's I got to see just how dumb (and mean) the human race can be.

  • Tristique (unregistered) in reply to epsalon

    ... and the dork response is, "Depends on what axis the card is rotated on, right? Assuming we rotate the card on an axis that is normal to the face of the card, then yeah, it doesn't change the direction that you pass the card. But if you rotate the card on an axis parallel to the face, and don't change the observer's position, then it changes.

    But it's answers like these that keep me out of social activities.

  • Larry (unregistered) in reply to In the wrong line of work.
    In the wrong line of work.:
    A train driver makeing ~$135K ? Damn.
    They need to make that much in Europe to pay their ridiculously high taxes (USA is striving to catch up). And the taxes are so high because they pay someone $135K for a job where all you have to do is go, stop, go, stop. You don't even have to steer!
  • (cs) in reply to TS
    TS:
    pǝʌlos ɯǝlqoɹd ʎʞɔᴉɹʇ ʎllɐǝɹ ɐ
    What is this gibberish? The above comment is completely illegible!
  • Publius (unregistered) in reply to fardle
    fardle:
    Point taken; however, if you have 60 different opinions on (how much leisure time the worker deserves / how much value the worker produces)... then any one country which flushes itself down the hole, will drag 59 others along with it. Which is pretty much what is happening. One currency requires one policy vis-a-vis government handouts.
    Whoa, I have to stop you right there. The only reason the other states would "get dragged down" would be if 1) They attempted some sort of "bailout" (AKA good money after bad), and/or 2) The other states had been foolish enough to spend critical funds on buying greek debt.

    Of course both are the case, but only because the other states are shooting themselves in the face. If they had managed their risk better than the Greeks managed their debt, they could just "let go of the rope" and let Greece get what they asked for. No one would have to get "dragged down".

    Of course that will never happen. Europe has collectively selected the zombie apocalypse.

  • Jeff (unregistered)

    Sounds like the guy just needed one of those monitors that you can rotate to upside-down. No need to print anything.

    Besides it is a real pain when they do print all those upside-down pages to file in the paper warehouse, and when a clerk goes to pull a box full of stuff from five years ago off a high shelf, and the lid pops open and dumps out all the paper on the floor because the box was put on the shelf upside down.

  • Plato (unregistered)

    OK, splain this to me. You have a buncha countries all using the same currency. One country's politicians decide to have lots of giveaways to the voters so they can get re-elected. They go into national debt like there's no tomorrow.

    In the USA we solve this by just printing up a few tons more money. Can Greece just print enough to give everybody a million Euros? Wealth and happiness for all? Or who decides how many Euros to print and which country gets to hand them out?

  • (cs) in reply to Expert
    Expert:
    LMC:
    Myriad come from the greek "myrias" that means 10.000

    Wrong again.

    Myrias (μύριος) translates as "countless"

    For ancient greek it just arbitrary large number, that objects of such quantity cannot exists in the world.

    Hail - the probl'm here is yer a-talkin' all wrong! You ain't no "ancient greek", yer a Namurcan! An' we got us a perfekly good Namurcan word fer this - and that word is "shitload"! Perfekly good word - you should be right proud to use it! 'Course, if'n yer in mixed cump'ny or yer with yer boss (in which case it's mixed UP cump'ny!) you prob'ly want to use the politer form - "boatload". As in "I wen' down to Miami Beach and saw me a boatload of them Haitian refugees!".

    Don' thank me - 's my pleasure to help y'all out.

  • TS (unregistered) in reply to Sock Puppet 5
    What is this gibberish? The above comment is completely illegible!
    ƃuoɹʍ ʇı ƃuıpɐǝɹ ʇsnɾ ǝɹ,noʎ 'ou
  • (cs) in reply to Plato
    Plato:
    OK, splain this to me. You have a buncha countries all using the same currency. One country's politicians decide to have lots of giveaways to the voters so they can get re-elected. They go into national debt like there's no tomorrow.

    In the USA we solve this by just printing up a few tons more money. Can Greece just print enough to give everybody a million Euros? Wealth and happiness for all? Or who decides how many Euros to print and which country gets to hand them out?

    Hey! Y'all 'r doin' right good at unnerstannin' the problems of a "monetary union" - it's only as stable as its most effed-up member. Y'see, it's like this - yer average politician, he unnerstans real good that he's as easy to replace as a lightbulb, and just about half as bright! The only-est thing he's got a-goin' for him is that the folks what elect him to office..? They's about half as smart as he is! So, this dumb ol' politician has to appeal to a bunch of dumber-n-dumb voters in order to keep his phoney-baloney job, so what's he gonna do? Well, yer high-falutin' college-boy types, they're gonna come up with lots of high-brow ways to make the economy better, to behave responsibly, etc, blah. Fortunately, there's only about two of them, so the rest of 'em? Well, it's real simple-like - they're gonna throw money at the problem - and since the problem is the electorate and gettin' 'em out to vote, they're a-gonna come up with lots of ways to spend every dime they's a-got, and lot they ain't got! Pretty soon, the guvmint's so far in debt they cain't see daylight with a searchlight! "And then what", I hear you ask? Well, that's plumb easy - they shrug and say "Guess it's all just bad luck" and keep a-cruisin' their way down Easy Street while the rest of us wind up on Shaftsbury Avenue. What the hail - they threw you a ton of money before - guess you shoulda hung onto a bit of it a-fore it all turned to dust and blew away!

    No need to thank me - s' my pleasure, helpin' y'all unnerstan' these complicated thangs.

  • (cs) in reply to TS
    TS:
    pǝʌlos ɯǝlqoɹd ʎʞɔᴉɹʇ ʎllɐǝɹ ɐ

    ˙ʇı ɹǝʌo ʇǝb puɐ "ɟo uoʇʞɔnɟ ɔıɹʇǝɯ ɐ" sɐ ǝɯɐs ǝɥʇ sı "ɟo pɐıɹʎɯ ɐ" ʎɐs ʇsnظ sʇǝן 'pɐıɹʎɯ ɟo uoıʇıuıɟǝp ןɐɔıuɥɔǝʇ ǝɥʇ ʇnoqɐ buıɥɔʇıq noʎ ɟo ʇsǝɹ ǝɥʇ ɹoɟ

    ˙ǝʞoظ ǝɥʇ ʎoظuǝ oʇ ɹǝɥʇoq uǝʌǝ ɯǝɥʇ ɟo ǝuou puɐ suoıʇıuıɟǝp pɹoʍ puɐ ɹǝɯɯɐɹb ǝɥʇ ʇnoqɐ buıɥɔʇıq sı ǝsןǝ ǝuoʎɹǝʌǝ ˙uıʍ noʎ

  • (cs) in reply to Harrow
    Harrow:
    Jaime:
    ParkinT:
    Although I have joked about this on numerous occassions with naive people in the office, I cannot believe this story is real. No one on earth is quite that gullible.

    I have, however, sent a 'confidential' document through the fax face-up, advising the recipient to "turn it over when you recieve it". But just as a joke.

    I wrote a scanning post-processor one time that looked for a whole page of text that averaged between 5% and 20% black and assumed the paper was scanned upside-down. The post-processor flipped the image left-to-right and darkened it.
    I couldn't make heads or tails of this until I realized that I had the wrong end of the stick and had grasped the reverse of your meaning.

    I hope that by 'upside-down' you mean 'face-down', which is the only way to avoid failing to make sense.

    -Harrow.

    I did. However, face-down isn't accurate either, as most scanners scan the bottom surface of the paper, not the top.
  • Dotan Cohen (unregistered) in reply to James

    Myriad mean 100 items of 100 different types, so that's 10000. The classical use of the term refers to soldiers: 100 soldiers each of 100 different specialties (cavalry, javelin, etc.)

  • Mr Keith (unregistered) in reply to fardle
    fardle:
    Severity One:
    David:
    Ibi-Wan Kentobi:
    LMC:
    Myriad come from the greek "myrias" that means 10.000
    That's pretty cool... but why did they need to specify three places' worth of precision, when they could have just named the integer "ten"?
    Because in Ancient Greece, as in Modern Europe, they used the period as a thousands separator and the comma as the radix. Why did they do this? You may as ask the Modern Europeans why they want to flush their common currency down the toilet.
    Nah, they don't want that... but the rest of Europe that uses the common currency isn't particularly happy with the Greeks right now. For example, the wage of a train driver working for the national railways (which haven't made a profit, ever, and are incredibly indebted) is around €100,000 (US notation, so 'one hundred thousand euros'). This is more than what the French president used to earn before he increased his wage by a factor of 2.5.

    I like the euro. Never ever do I want to get back to the situation where you have 60 different currencies in such a small continent.

    Point taken; however, if you have 60 different opinions on what the target government bond interest rate should be ... then any one country which flushes itself down the hole, will drag 59 others along with it. Which is pretty much what is happening. One currency requires one policy vis-a-vis central banking

    FTFY

  • (cs) in reply to Ol Bob
    Ol Bob:
    Perfekly good word - you should be right proud to use it! 'Course, if'n yer in mixed cump'ny or yer with yer boss (in which case it's mixed UP cump'ny!) you prob'ly want to use the politer form - "boatload".

    I personally prefer "buttload" to "boatload". Though better than both of those is one of my alltime favorite words, "frackton". (And of course its intensified version, "metric frackton".)

    This wtf amuses me mainly because I work for a company that sells software to exactly this sort of person (other than, at least I hope, not all this dumb. Though I'm sure you could get some great stories out of our tech support). There's a reason "auto-rotate" is on our list of processes you can add. I'm extremely glad, however, that pdfs aren't what you get at the end, cause pdfs are freaking ugly under the hood. (I now know from personal experience.)

  • (cs) in reply to Nagesh
    Nagesh:
    Nagesh feke:
    In Hindi, word read seme upside down and rite side up.

    that is obvoius lye.

    Enough with the caustic comments!

  • me (unregistered)
    All went was going well until a senior paralegal named Curt came in to Shea’s office in a bit of panic. “Half of my faxes are messed up and illegible,” Curt cried.
    I've been reading this site too long - I thought "he's holding them upside-down?" when I got this far...
  • (cs) in reply to dgvid
    dgvid:
    Nagesh:
    Nagesh feke:
    In Hindi, word read seme upside down and rite side up.

    that is obvoius lye.

    Enough with the caustic comments!

    And thus, this site's comments have reached a new low... borrowing jokes from Xanth, of all places?

  • Dotan Cohen (unregistered) in reply to Jaime
    Jaime:
    I wrote a scanning post-processor one time that looked for a whole page of text that averaged between 5% and 20% black and assumed the paper was scanned upside-down. The post-processor flipped the image left-to-right and darkened it.

    You did finish off my converting it from little-endian to big-endian, right?

  • (cs) in reply to Paul
    Paul:
    weapons-grade stupidity

    I am soooo using this at my next meeting in this place.

    +100

  • Professor Fate (unregistered) in reply to In the wrong line of work.

    But not much longer...

  • Professor Fate (unregistered) in reply to Plato
    In the USA we solve this by just printing up a few tons more money. Can Greece just print enough to give everybody a million Euros? Wealth and happiness for all? Or who decides how many Euros to print and which country gets to hand them out?

    We no can do sir. Money is created by central banks, in the case of the euro by the European Central Bank.

    Creating more money means more money in the entire euro zone which means more inflation. The ECB has an obligation to keep the inflation below 2%. There is nothing the Greeks can legally do, other than negotiate their way out of the euro zone and then start printing Drachmes like crazy.

    Fore reference, check wikipedia:

    In economics, money creation is the process by which the money supply of a country or a monetary region (such as the Eurozone) is increased. There are two principal stages of money creation. First, the central bank introduces new money into the economy (termed 'expansionary monetary policy') by purchasing financial assets or lending money to financial institutions. Second, the new money introduced by the central bank is multiplied by commercial banks through fractional reserve banking; this expands the amount of broad money (i.e. cash plus demand deposits) in the economy so that it is a multiple (known as the money multiplier) of the amount originally created by the central bank.

  • (cs) in reply to Thayla
    Thayla:
    I just wish it were a joke... As an IT person who worked in a law office in the 90's I got to see just how dumb (and mean) the human race can be.
    From my own personal observations: No matter how smart a person is, if you take them outside there domain of knowledge they will instantly become an idiot.
  • no Bob (unregistered) in reply to no laughing matter
    no laughing matter:
    David:
    You may as ask the Modern Europeans why they want to flush their common currency down the toilet.
    It's a currency-flushing-contest whith those economies that use the USD as currency.

    Who flushes faster can export cheaper into the other competitor's economy.

    Unfortunately this is no laughing matter.

    Show some sensitivity! I had a son who was no laughing matter, and let me assure you, it is unfortunate.

  • AndyC (unregistered) in reply to Dotan Cohen
    Dotan Cohen:
    Myriad mean 100 items of 100 different types, so that's 10000. The classical use of the term refers to soldiers: 100 soldiers each of 100 different specialties (cavalry, javelin, etc.)
    No, that's what it once meant.

    English as a language is defined by popular consensus and very few people these days mean 10,000 when they use the word myriad, they're instead just referring to some undefined but large amount. As a result that is now the meaning of myriad.

  • Anonymous Pedant (unregistered) in reply to RHuckster
    Following the myriad pedantry, I imagine if someone with a migraine said they felt like they were hit by a Mack truck you'd argue over whether they meant Peterbuilt.

    That's Peterbilt.

  • (cs) in reply to Sock Puppet 5
    Sock Puppet 5:
    TS:
    pǝʌlos ɯǝlqoɹd ʎʞɔᴉɹʇ ʎllɐǝɹ ɐ
    What is this gibberish? The above comment is completely illegible!

    is obvoius you need for lern to stand on your hed. yoga will help you to sum degree

  • Luke (unregistered) in reply to Plato
    Plato:
    Can Greece just print enough to give everybody 20 myriad Euros?
    FTFY
  • (cs) in reply to dgvid
    dgvid:
    Nagesh:
    Nagesh feke:
    In Hindi, word read seme upside down and rite side up.

    that is obvoius lye.

    Enough with the caustic comments!

    why u think the coment was hard?

  • Gramma (unregistered) in reply to Anketam
    Anketam:
    From my own personal observations: No matter how smart a person is, if you take them outside there domain of knowledge they will instantly become an idiot.
    You did that on porpoise, right?
  • (cs) in reply to Anketam
    Anketam:
    Thayla:
    I just wish it were a joke... As an IT person who worked in a law office in the 90's I got to see just how dumb (and mean) the human race can be.
    From my own personal observations: No matter how smart a person is, if you take them outside there domain of knowledge they will instantly become an idiot.

    You sir is truly fount of wisdum.

  • Nagesh (unregistered) in reply to Nagesh
    Nagesh:
    dgvid:
    Nagesh:
    Nagesh feke:
    In Hindi, word read seme upside down and rite side up.

    that is obvoius lye.

    Enough with the caustic comments!

    why u think the coment was hard?

    Go to school librarie and get English dicktionary, schoolboy haker!

  • (cs) in reply to Professor Fate
    Professor Fate:
    The ECB has an obligation to keep the inflation below 2%.
    In theory, this is true.

    In actual practice it has now lowered interest rates by 25 base points to ridiculously low 1.25% (the modern equivalent of "printing money like crazy") although the current inflation rate of 3 percent is well above the ECB’s 2 percent limit.

    ECB is now led by italian Mario Draghi - and italian politicians definitely are not well known for sound fiscal policy.

    In fact the italian debt is an even bigger issue than the greek problem.

  • (cs) in reply to Ol Bob
    Ol Bob:
    You ain't no "ancient greek", yer a Namurcan! An' we got us a perfekly good Namurcan word fer this - and that word is "shitload"! Perfekly good word - you should be right proud to use it!

    The Greek word for "shitload" isn't "myriad". It's "plethora".

  • Nagesh (unregistered) in reply to no laughing matter
    no laughing matter:
    Professor Fate:
    The ECB has an obligation to keep the inflation below 2%.
    In theory, this is true.

    In actual practice it has now lowered interest rates by 25 base points to ridiculously low 1.25% (the modern equivalent of "printing money like crazy") although the current inflation rate of 3 percent is well above the ECB’s 2 percent limit.

    ECB is now led by italian Mario Draghi - and italian politicians definitely are not well known for sound fiscal policy.

    In fact the italian debt is an even bigger issue than the greek problem.

    Here in Hyderabad, debting problum to Pakistan is being big isue. They are creditor of 16% Indian debt.

  • PRMan (unregistered) in reply to Rich Lawyer
    Rich Lawyer:
    Coyne:
    I don't see the problem. Confirms my belief that lawyers are lawyers because they can't do anything else.

    Exactly my opinion on programmers

    Yeah, but nobody makes jokes about killing programmers....

  • PRMan (unregistered)

    Oh, and at my last job, we actually had a female police officer force us to fax something again because we faxed it "upside down".

  • Herby (unregistered) in reply to In the wrong line of work.
    In the wrong line of work.:
    Severity One:
    the wage of a train driver working for the national railways is around €100,000
    A train driver makeing ~$135K ? Damn.
    Just remember... At one time (I don't believe that it is the case now) the Paris Metro (subway/underground) system had ticket takers. It turns out that the salaries paid to the ticket takers (fare collectors) was LESS than the fares received. The system would have been better off (lost less money) if they just let everyone ride for free. This was before tokens & turnstiles, which are in common use to day in such systems.

    I'm sure that examples of this stupidity exist today, its just that I'm not familiar with them. I leave it as an exercise for the reader to comment about some.

  • Nagesh (unregistered) in reply to Herby
    Herby:
    In the wrong line of work.:
    Severity One:
    the wage of a train driver working for the national railways is around €100,000
    A train driver makeing ~$135K ? Damn.
    Just remember... At one time (I don't believe that it is the case now) the Paris Metro (subway/underground) system had ticket takers. It turns out that the salaries paid to the ticket takers (fare collectors) was LESS than the fares received. The system would have been better off (lost less money) if they just let everyone ride for free. This was before tokens & turnstiles, which are in common use to day in such systems.

    I'm sure that examples of this stupidity exist today, its just that I'm not familiar with them. I leave it as an exercise for the reader to comment about some.

    I have being Java programer for 10 years now.

  • (cs) in reply to Haters gonna hate
    Haters gonna hate:
    What a disgraceful way to store books. They'll get ruined.
  • (cs) in reply to Kef Schecter
    Kef Schecter:
    Not really a WTF if the person in question has a disability that means they can't readily recognize upside-down letters as upside-down. (Don't laugh: some kind of dyslexia might well cause such a thing.)

    Of course, Occam's Razor says it's probably still just plain ol' stupidity.

    Dyselxia is just palin old stupditiy.

  • (cs) in reply to Nagesh
    Nagesh (feke):
    Herby:
    In the wrong line of work.:
    Severity One:
    the wage of a train driver working for the national railways is around €100,000
    A train driver makeing ~$135K ? Damn.
    Just remember... At one time (I don't believe that it is the case now) the Paris Metro (subway/underground) system had ticket takers. It turns out that the salaries paid to the ticket takers (fare collectors) was LESS than the fares received. The system would have been better off (lost less money) if they just let everyone ride for free. This was before tokens & turnstiles, which are in common use to day in such systems.

    I'm sure that examples of this stupidity exist today, its just that I'm not familiar with them. I leave it as an exercise for the reader to comment about some.

    I have being Java programer for 10 years now.

    10 years and still programming. In 2 years, I am alredy going to become analist. Then project manager.

  • Bob (unregistered) in reply to LMC
    LMC:
    and... Captcha 'erat' > 'he was' in latin :)

    Please show some sensitivity. My son was in Latin earlier today. They were studying De Bello Gallico. Let me tell you, it was no laughing matter.

  • (cs) in reply to mainframe_web_dev
    mainframe_web_dev:
    Here in Ohio (pronounced O-Hi-Yah), myriad means "many, and of different types". That would be American English, slang Midwest.
    Here in Britain we just use the term "shitloads".
  • (cs) in reply to David
    David:
    Ibi-Wan Kentobi:
    LMC:
    Myriad come from the greek "myrias" that means 10.000

    That's pretty cool... but why did they need to specify three places' worth of precision, when they could have just named the integer "ten"?

    Because in Ancient Greece, as in Modern Europe, they used the period as a thousands separator and the comma as the radix. Why did they do this? You may as ask the Modern Europeans why they want to flush their common currency down the toilet.

    As a Brit: snigger.

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