• gc (unregistered)

    Argh. The suspense. Please tell the rest of the story.!!!

  • Frist (unregistered)

    Type slowly: F-R-I-S-T

  • olaf (unregistered)

    Yay for HTML comments

    http://thedailywtf.com/Articles/The-Tye-That-Binds-(part-2).aspx

  • Leo (unregistered)

    Aargle baargle, glop-glyf?!

  • cretin (unregistered)

    Aaah come on. The ending is surely the the real ... to be continued.

  • Francesco (unregistered)

    Nooooooooo!!!!!! Don't leave it like this, this suspense is killing me!

  • RRR (unregistered) in reply to olaf

    :)) I bow to you, sir, for spotting this one!

  • Mads Bondo Dydensborg (unregistered) in reply to olaf

    I vote for this comment to be featured :)

  • President (unregistered)

    Tye is probably my daughter.

  • eVil (unregistered)

    So TRWTF is using the word 'daily' when this stretches over more than one day?

    I can't say whether I speak for everyone, but I reckon most readers come here for a 5 minute anecdote they can read, find some closure from, and maybe make some comments about before heading back to their regular working tasks.

    Shoving a cliffhanger in totally breaks that. Without the end of the story, the story has no point. No comments about the content can be made, without risking invalidation by the continuation of the story.

    Presumably you're the kind of person who, when at a party, regales people with weird tales of your coworkers, before suddenly cutting off and informing your audience that they'll have to wait until the next party to hear the concluding part; you bastard.

  • (cs)

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  • Warren (unregistered)

    This comment is fri...

    To be continued. When it is, you'll see a hyperlink to part 2 here.

  • moz (unregistered) in reply to eVil
    eVil:
    Shoving a cliffhanger in totally breaks that. Without the end of the story, the story has no point. No comments about the content can be made, without risking invalidation by the continuation of the story.
    Of course they can. You can say that the story has a cast of two dimensional characters (at best), no real drama (a database which can be taken down for a couple of hours without notice on a single manager's say-so?) and one joke at best.

    While the next part could be different, it's not the sort of thing which actually happens here.

  • WC (unregistered) in reply to olaf
    olaf:
    Yay for HTML comments

    http://thedailywtf.com/Articles/The-Tye-That-Binds-(part-2).aspx

    That's from the future! Are you a wizard!?

  • ¯\(°_o)/¯ I DUNNO LOL (unregistered)

    TRWTF is the Toxic Leader anti-pattern.

  • MetaCommenter (unregistered)

    Came for the story expecting snide comments in the source.

    AM DISAPOINT

  • Paul M (unregistered)

    Already know how this ends.

    Replaced the sort with an off-the-shelf implementation. Left the code laying around, but removed the calls to it.

    Manager took credit for the sudden, dramatic improvement in performance.

  • Maciejas (unregistered)
    "Will. Clearing. The. Drive. Improve. Performance?"

    Aargle took a deep breath into lungs that felt too tight. "Yes."

    That's TRWTF #1 for you...

    To be continued...

    ...and that's TRWTF #2. How it should have gone:

    (...)can you do what I'm telling you to do, or do I need to get someone else to do it for you?
    • No bitch, I'm not going to risk the entire system just because you've read the chapter about defragging in "Computers for Dummies". The speed that we gain from it will not make up for the downtime and potential risk before the heat death of the universe. Consider this my two-week notice.

    CAPTCHA: verto. I'm afraid to verto to the next page of this story...

  • (cs) in reply to WC
    WC:
    olaf:
    Yay for HTML comments

    http://thedailywtf.com/Articles/The-Tye-That-Binds-(part-2).aspx

    That's from the future! Are you a wizard!?

    Unpublished articles are visible. That's interesting. I guess I know who got WTF'd today. :|

    Oh well. I guess I have two pages of comments to obsessively refresh.

  • foo (unregistered) in reply to eVil
    eVil:
    Shoving a cliffhanger in totally breaks that. Without the end of the story, the story has no point. No comments about the content can be made, without risking invalidation by the continuation of the story.
    I'll take the risk: Aargle rewrites the sort algorithm, probably pushed by Mack and against Tye's explicit orders, and in the end gets fired for it. I'm confident the continuation will confirm my comment.
  • eVil (unregistered) in reply to foo
    foo:
    eVil:
    Shoving a cliffhanger in totally breaks that. Without the end of the story, the story has no point. No comments about the content can be made, without risking invalidation by the continuation of the story.
    I'll take the risk: Aargle rewrites the sort algorithm, probably pushed by Mack and against Tye's explicit orders, and in the end gets fired for it. I'm confident the continuation will confirm my comment.

    Reading part 2 then predicting the contents of part 2 does not make you Cassandra.

  • ¯\(°_o)/¯ I DUNNO LOL (unregistered) in reply to Paul M
    Paul M:
    Already know how this ends.

    Replaced the sort with an off-the-shelf implementation. Left the code laying around, but removed the calls to it.

    Manager took credit for the sudden, dramatic improvement in performance.

    But what about the President's daughter?

  • (cs)

    I tried to view part 2 and got the Dennis Nedry "Uh uh uh!" thing from Jurassic Park. Thanks for ruining it for the rest of us, scrubs.

  • Maciejas (unregistered)

    http://thedailywtf.com/Comments/The-Tye-That-Binds-%28part-2%29.aspx#Nedry

    Oooh, you sneaky... (click [expand full text] )

    AH AH AH, YOU DIDN'T SAY THE MAGIC WORD!

  • Tae (unregistered)

    Be a shame if someone had already posted part 2 somewhere else.

  • (cs)

    People, I think this is the first time a WTF is split in two parts ala Kill Bill. What a great moment to be alive!

  • (cs) in reply to eVil
    eVil:
    So TRWTF is using the word 'daily' when this stretches over more than one day?

    Shirley I'm not the only one who remembers when we used to get two or even three articles per day?

  • ceiswyn (unregistered) in reply to hymie
    hymie:
    Shirley I'm not the only one who remembers when we used to get two or even three articles per day?

    No, you're not. And don't call me Shirley.

  • (cs) in reply to Tae
    Tae:
    Be a shame if someone had already posted part 2 somewhere else.

    Yes, it would be a horrible shame if someone posted a link to my article on Reddit. Indeed, that would be a Terrible, Horrible, No Good, Very Bad, Traffic Increasing Day.

  • Tae (unregistered) in reply to Lorne Kates
    Lorne Kates:
    Tae:
    Be a shame if someone had already posted part 2 somewhere else.

    Yes, it would be a horrible shame if someone posted a link to my article on Reddit. Indeed, that would be a Terrible, Horrible, No Good, Very Bad, Traffic Increasing Day.

    Especially on a subreddit that's recently had a popularity explosion. That'd just be the worst!

  • No One (unregistered)

    I think I worked with that manager, every time there was reported customer problem her "Flaming Sword of Justice" would come out and she'd act pretty much like this, regardless of whether there was a real problem or regardless if we had the resources to fix it. She wasn't even our manager. She was so bad that when the Ops manager left for a few days for a conference she spent the entire time bringing the ops team into her office one by one and dressing them down for perceived failures, almost causing the entire team to quit en mass. Highly awesome.

  • Pista (unregistered)

    Don't bother posting part 2, this story is boring. We've seen this kind of "incompetent manager - incompetent consultant" story, spiced with some degree of nepotism, over and over.

  • RFoxmich (unregistered) in reply to foo

    You peeked confess it.

    foo:
    eVil:
    Shoving a cliffhanger in totally breaks that. Without the end of the story, the story has no point. No comments about the content can be made, without risking invalidation by the continuation of the story.
    I'll take the risk: Aargle rewrites the sort algorithm, probably pushed by Mack and against Tye's explicit orders, and in the end gets fired for it. I'm confident the continuation will confirm my comment.
  • LeForgeron (unregistered)

    As bet go on, here is mine: the expert specialist sort is a bubblesort. (well, it's an expert, so it's a true sort, not any of silly sorts such as mix-check-and-repeat-if-not-sorted).

    All was well until the amount of data grows, and scalability of the bubblesort get over the power of even the latest hardware.

  • Hotblack Desiato (unregistered)

    TRWTF is that Aargle hasn't replaced Tye's throat with a bloody maw.

  • dev (unregistered)

    Here Tye, have rope.

    There, big tall tree.

    Reformat disk?

  • Craig (unregistered)

    When a clueless manager asks "Will doing fill-in-the-blank help?" and you know darn well it won't, the correct answer is "no."

  • Tristram (unregistered)

    To be continued?

    If I wanted a long, boring story with no point, I have my life.

  • Anonymous (unregistered)

    You bastard... Well played, sir, well played...

    In any case, TRWTF is telling her that, "yes, defragging will improve performance," when he didn't know that was true (and should probably assume that it won't, or at least isn't the best way to do it). Premature optimization is the root of all evil.

    The other TRWTF was not shoving that manual up her ****...

  • J. Doe (jr) (unregistered)

    Being confronted with the direct question "Would defragging solve the problem?" Aargle answered with a "yes".

    That was his death sentence.

    If it doesn't solve the problem (either because the system will be slow again after defragging, or because they won't be able to bring it back online fully operational) Tye will blame him, referring to his "yes".

    With people like Tye the Judo Of Negotiating is what has helped me quite often:

    1. Take care the other one takes his share of the responsibility:

    Why the heck didn't he ask back something like "What do you consider a solution? How fast would you want the system to be to consider the problem as solved? My answer depends on it!"?

    1. If unclear, understand things to your own favor:

    He might have risked a plain "No it wouldn't solve the problem!" and if asked why, tell Tye that even if the system was a bit quicker for 2 hours, it would be back to low speed after that - which he did believe no-one would regard a solution.

    1. Take away the "Oh that was a misunderstanding" emergency exit for the other one:

    The least Aargle could have done would have been to write an email to Tye telling her "I understood you want me to XYZ. If that was a misunderstanding, please tell me by hh:mm."

    1. Document that you warned and don't want to be blamed for other one's faults:

    A short email like "Btw, I'd like to warn you of the following possible consequences of your order - which I can't take responsibility for." would have put Tye on the spot - and not Aargle. Even little dictators like Tye can imagine situations in which such an email is hold against them by a superior.

  • hping (unregistered) in reply to ¯\(°_o)/¯ I DUNNO LOL

    Maybe Tye is the President's daughter!

  • ping floyd (unregistered) in reply to Maciejas
    Maciejas:
    http://thedailywtf.com/Comments/The-Tye-That-Binds-%28part-2%29.aspx#Nedry

    Oooh, you sneaky... (click [expand full text] )

    AH AH AH, YOU DIDN'T SAY THE MAGIC WORD!

    This is a Unix system. I know this!

  • foo (unregistered) in reply to Lorne Kates
    Lorne Kates:
    WC:
    olaf:
    Yay for HTML comments

    http://thedailywtf.com/Articles/The-Tye-That-Binds-(part-2).aspx

    That's from the future! Are you a wizard!?

    Unpublished articles are visible. That's interesting. I guess I know who got WTF'd today. :|

    Oh well. I guess I have two pages of comments to obsessively refresh.

    Make that three, I mean four, and counting ...

  • Mike (unregistered) in reply to eVil

    Would have been a DWTF but Tye wanted. To. Speak. Slowly.

  • f0dder (unregistered) in reply to Leo
    Leo:
    Aargle baargle, glop-glyf?!
    Ah, good old DIKU MUD <3
  • darkmage0707077 (unregistered)

    Executive Summary:

    I predict Aargle's going to be fired in part 2 because I'm a cynical ***, and I believe Aargle should've started a job hunt way earlier before shooting his mouth off in front of the boss.

    Technical Details:

    To be continued? What kind of stupidity is-oh, I get it, it's a lame excuse to build suspense.

    Looks like it's working from the comments I've read.

    I make a bold prediction: that Aargle's going to be fired for not keeping his mouth shut.

    If so, then he was an idiot for not keeping his mouth shut. OK, great, you spoke your mind to your manager in spite of the risks. This is good, you can look yourself in the mirror with your integrity intact, and the ability to speak one's mind is great for when you become a leader yourself.

    But even though you can look yourself in the mirror, can you also look in your family's eyes when you tell them you no longer have a job in the current job market because you got fired today? And what will you tell your mortgage company, utilities and/or car dealer when they demand money and you don't have it?

    Because I'm willing to bet (from the last line of part 1 sounding like it does) that you don't have another job lined up right now. So although I laud you for being brave enough to speak your mind (sort of), I condemn you for not looking for and finding a new position before shooting your mouth off.

    Sure she's abrasive and a stuck-up ***hole, but the best way to deal is to quietly find a new job and leave when your record's still clean. And don't tell me it was an accident: you've been at this job for 2 months and already feel like she's killing you with her words and that didn't tip you off that maybe you should leave before the stress finishes the job for her? Why not??

    Also, what I said before about bravery being useful as a leader? It is, but some more useful traits are being able to identify work/office problems early, being able to keep your mouth shut, and being able to focus on both short- and long-term goals (being able to eat and retain peace of mind).

    In conclusion, maybe Aargle's life goals are different then mine - in which case, my judgements don't matter - maybe part 2 will prove me wrong and somehow vindicate him/her(?). But from how the first part went, I doubt it.

    ...wow, this soap box is unstable, I better get off before I fa-!crash

  • IN-HOUSE-CHAMP (unregistered)
    The System was horrifically complicated, but was thankfully well documented.

    Hogwash, I say Hogwash!

  • (cs)

    to be continued? what is this, CBS?

  • Noone (unregistered)
  • Annoyed (unregistered)

    Cliffhangers? What is this, a soap opera?

    Please don't try to be clever. You're already failing at it.

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