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Go on, name names. Because telco's don't fucking care, as long as you pay them for the potential service they might some times offer.
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Well he never got it, that is the point, that is why they start calling him names. Look at the last thing he said, he STILL thinks the function is broken, EVEN after everyone told him it isn't. Told him why the problem is happening, told him where to look for more info.
Yeah the guys were being assholes about it, I probably would have just stopped talking to him after I repeated myself for the nth time, and he still wasn't listening to what I was saying.
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Verizon FiOS. Although availability is still somewhat limited.
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I get 17mbps downstream from Telstra.
But a pathetic, abysmal 256kbps upstream.
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Failure to surprise. It's 'rice'. 'Rice', so it rhymes. Good God, don't you remember what my father always said?
Anyways, point was that just because the notifications are of use to you doesn't mean they're of use to everyone else, particularly when poorly delivered. The connection, however tenuous, with Viagra email advertising is that while it might be useful to a few, there's no call to be distributing it to all and sundry, with an underlying implication that you yourself may have a similar use for such communications.
There, slow plodding boring logic IS just as annoying as obscure snappy remarks, just far less satisfying. I think the impetus for it is, as surmised, the low apparent quality of this WTF.
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Nope. Not kidding at all.
He got sarcasm on the _second_ response. ("What exactly do you think round does?")
By the time the first useful info was given the best 'advice' he had be given was; "F1", "rtfm", "good god", "*sigh*" and been called a "silly shit".
He did get accurate info, after 15 minutes, that "floating point variables are never precise". But that is after he figured out by himself that the problem was related to using floats and he was now trying to work out why/how he was even able to call the function with his inputs.
I know he never 'got it'. Even by the end of the 'conversation', he grasped neither the precision problem nor the implicit conversion issue. But frankly, once it degenerated that far, it didn't matter how good or bad the info was, because there was no longer an atmosphere of learning.
Now, I don't know where this took place. But I definately feel sorry for the guy, because he obviously went to the wrong place to ask a question. I like to hang out over at http://experts-exchange.com (asking and answering) and you would NEVER see a conversation like that.
I'm guessing this was a 'kid', i.e. student age. From the tenor of the conversation I would guess that not one of them was over 19. I'd honestly rather work with someone who is trying to learn than someone convinced of their own superiority.
(And, of course, this is just me convincing myself of my own superiority.)
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Is text-plain ascii. A assembler lang for printers. This is the pseudocode for a interpreter:
<font face="Courier New">while( symbol = getNextByte() ){
case "\n":
CarriageReturn();
break;
case "\t":
colum = colum + SpacesToNextTab( colum );//TODO
break;
case 0:
exit();
default:
DrawSymbol ( symbolgraphic[ symbol ] );
break;
}
<font face="Arial">Thres a version++ much more powerfull, with name "mime", that can use anithing, from videos to graphics and sound. But Its not recomended (alike multiple inheritance on C++).
Note:
looks like Slashdot steal our WTF today:
http://ask.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=06/05/18/0154213
</font>
</sarcasm>
--Tei
</font>
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I've been an EU network admin for the better part of 10 years now and I've worked with all the 'global' carriers: MCI/worldcom, AT&T, Global Crossing, you name it.
They all suck monkey balls. Fact of life.
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I do something similar, but with Big Brother network monitor. (I bought it back when their prices were still reasonable!) I have two BB hosts, on disparate network connections. If anything goes down, I know within about 5 minutes, because I get a message on my phone.
It's great, and almost attention-free. I just know when something goes wrong. And, it monitors not only the network connections, but other things, like specific services, processes on the host, available disk space, system load, etc.
It's a total lifesaver.
Admin
The real WTF is that PDF is just a load of scanned images for text.
Admin
With or withouth wood table frame?
Admin
I agree, the bigger the company gets, the bigger the balls it sucks it would seem.
On another interesting note, yanks eh? What will you lot get up to next?
Admin
The real WTF is why this sort of thing is still happening when NTT West gives me 100Mbps fiberoptic to my bedroom and IPv6-based TV for US$70 a month on a circuit that has only been down once in three years. I don't get it.
--
$0.02
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Disappointing WTF :(
The WTF-discussion haven't really come up to speed either...
Anyone else using Firefox having problems signing in? I could swear I managed to log in earlier, using Firefox, but now it times out all the time. Using IE atm (WTF??? WTF!!!).
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My iPod shuffle does that - amber light means battery is low, red light means battery is dead. Go figure.
Admin
Josh and Jim: I'm sorry for your troubles. Dealing with monoliths, especially those whose name begins with "M", sucks.
Josh: I love this line. It's the funniest bit in the thread.
I think your service is incredibly horrible, that the customer service is a huge WTF, etc., but I'm not entirely convinced that it's more than that.
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That was on an IRC channel btw. Probably C# on Freenode, but it's anyone's guess really. I agree that they went to the name calling really fast, and the atmosphere deteriorated rapidly. Although I will point out that when the question of "what do you think exactly round does?" was asked, it was not insarcam. It was a fully legitimate question. He obviously didn't understand how floating point numbers work, which was blatently obvious shortly after. Despite the name-calling, which was warrented imho, it is one of the funniest conversations I have ever read. The person just wasn't listening, and if you've ever been on IRC before, acting like a fool is pretty much always met with a short temper.
Still one of the funniest reads EVER.
lol
Admin
No, these guys are typically pretty level-headed until we get a WTF that deals with actual code. I've never seen them fly off the handle like this. If only we could trace back the problem to figure out what you might have said to piss people off....
Oh that's right, you acted like a pretentious, holier-than-thou expert in this field, and you insulted everyone else by assuming they're a bunch of kids that are only responsible for their development system.
Admin
Yeah, I'm with you on this one. A pox on both their houses.
Admin
No problems here. I always use Firefox.
Sincerely,Gene Wirchenko
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Yeah, me and Bus are going to kick their asses.
Wait... I've gone down that road already. I better put my pretentious generator on a lower setting.
[E....../] Yep, thought so.
Admin
Running a very $$$ T1 but don't have a simple 64kbps ISDN or ADSL auto-failover line in place?? WTF? The word of the day is 'resiliency'.
Admin
And no problems using Firefox from home either... Some sort of Firefox-CompanyFirewall/Proxy-NewForum issue mayhaps...
Admin
Seriously, if you don't know what a T1 buys you, or how to maintain it, you shouldn't be surprised when things don't go as you might have hoped.
Admin
I just wanted to note that my DVD player confuses me, because the green LED comes on when the DVD player is off...and when I turn on the DVD player, the light goes off. Talk about unintuitive...
And sending emails when your internet is down is unintuitive there. I definitely think that is a WTF. o.O
Admin
No, actually it's more like the phone company calling YOU to tell you that your phone line doesn't work.
Admin
Having worked on TV decoder systems, I believe that is standard for the European market. Probably intended as a safety feature to let you know that the device is powered when there's no other indication.
Admin
Ugh! That is so crazy that I can not tell if you are serious or pulling our legs.
Sincerely,
Gene Wirchenko
Admin
In the European market as I know it, the led will typically be green when the device is active, red when the device is in stand-by mode (can be turned on by the remote control) and off when it's completely powered off.
Admin
The message wasn't a WTF because sending an outage notification is a WTF, it's a WTF because he got 2 of them a week, it referenced a non-existent list of "phone numbers below", and then they stopped saying they would send post-notification once the outage was finished.
Imagine calling one of your 450 sites to inform them of the outage.
"How long will it last?"
"I don't know"
"Can MCI Tell you?"
"I don't have their phone number"
"How will you know when it's over?"
"I won't"
Brilliant.
Admin
Dead straight. As I live in the UK just about everything with a remote control has such a light, and I don't bat an eyelid. I suppose they turn it off so it's not shining at you when you watch a DVD, etc. in the evening. It also means the WTF of trying to operate a device with no power, is never on you.
Admin
Yeah, you would never see rudeness and sarcastic replies on experts-exchange...
http://www.experts-exchange.com/Miscellaneous/Lounge/Q_22074209.html