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Actually, what those people did in 45 minutes, Neal destroyed in 3. Everyone had been encouraging their boss and therefore avoiding the actual work day.
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I was thinking it might actually be Steve Ballmer ...
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Or you could go one step further and get the download sort extension to apply a spot of organisation...
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I can't believe how many people posting in this thread apparently missed the neural network WTF from a couple weeks ago.
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Since Neal was late, his inaction allowed them to waste 45 minutes of their time (EACH!). If he arrived at on time he would have been able to fix the problem immediately. Because he was lazy and overslept, he left the morons to themselves and they ended up screwing up. So he owes the 45 minutes of time he was late and at least part of each of their time that he was partially responsible for wasting.
It's like you go out to build a fence and Neil is the guy with the shovel. Sure you showed up on time, but you can't do anything until Neil wakes up and brings the shovel (or in this case his brain) so you can get started.
I think it's funny that people are asking ME if it's Neil's fault that they are morons. Welcome to the real world.
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This is the best reply ever!
No quack!
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Who Said I missed it, I just think that this version is perfect for the WTF it is in reference to. I say Damn Good Job!! Just as good as the original!!
~SE
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There is this other company where the HTML invoice email it's online service generates and sends to the customer is considered spam by Outlook 2003's Junk E-mail filter...
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Paying his mortgage?
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The sad thing is that another idiot is in charge
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First of all...."allowed them to waste 45 minutes of their time (EACH!)"....that's right ALLOWED...not FORCED.
Second, in the fence example, if everyone else is too stupid/lazy to realize just maybe they may have to pick up a shovel themselves and get started, then perhaps it's time to find a new crew. You say "welcome to the real world", well the real world I know requires you to sometimes do things that aren't specifically YOUR job.
I think it's funny that you continue to hammer on Neal but seem not to care so much that the rest of the office appears to be a bunch of asshats. Sounds to me like you're part of the problem as to WHY the real world IS the "real world"; too many morons are given a pass but guys like Neal who actually seem to have a brain are then judged much more harshly.
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How about sharing with us the part where you gather all your colleagues to explain some conspiracy theory which ends in gargantuan disappointment and curling up in fetal position in the corner of your office? :)
CAPTHA: wtf
WTF?
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So Neal's boss could have a look and see if his company was there.
And what a horrible way to spell that name.
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And here's where I get to share my favorite line:
Always the technology, never the user.
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I'm just saying that if people do what they're supposed (i.e. show up on time) it makes everyone's lives a lot easier. Trust I've made mistakes and I've overslept before. There are consequences if your absence is costly.
I make a living doing things that aren't my job. But you can bet your butt I'm not going to go out and purchase a shovel with my own money if it's someone else's job. That isn't the point though. The point is that someone with an irreplaceable tool (i.e. the only smart one in the office) ain't there.
It's a given that the rest of the office is a bunch of morons. I didn't think I needed to waste my time discussing the drooling goobers staring at the furious bossman's screen.
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I've now spent way too much time on this wondering if your posts are just subtle humor, an attempt at satire, or perhaps your view of reality.
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I go with C. I'm beginning to think he's one of Neal's co-workers.
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Unless Neal's job description explicitly includes "wiping the boss's arse for him", he didn't waste even his superior's time, let alone anyone else's - I'm afraid the rest of the office has to take responsibility for their own decision to stand around gawping at the free sideshow.
It's always amazing how quick some people are to try and offload their own responsibility onto those who are capable of looking after themselves. I wouldn't expect or ask you to nursemaid me - so what the hell makes you think I should or could do it for you?
(... the "you" above is generic, not directed at the person I quoted!)
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And I think we've just isolated the central difference between you and Neal. His "irreplaceable tool" is one he did "purchase with his own money". You appear to be arguing that he somehow owes the use of it to his work colleagues, who refused to buy their own.
Can we therefore assume that you're sharing your house with as many local homeless people as will fit?
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If Niel's work description states that he is reponsible for hand holding his boss when he fucks up, then I agree with you.
If it does not, and you work in such an environment (your real world), I pity you.
My real world does not look like that, thank god.
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Wow. A story not clobbered by an unnecesary amount of overblown hyperbole. It was actually enjoyable!
Bravo.
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I don't share my home with the homeless because I don't trust homeless people around my kids and belongings. I have frequently helped out friends who needed a place to stay though. My home is pretty much full so it would cost me more money to house the homeless. It costs Neil nothing to help his co-workers expect for his time. We've already established he doesn't value time at the highest regard, and when he is working it's his employer's time anyways.
I don't expect any arsewiping or nursemaiding, but if a co-worker hits a roadblock and his roadblock is affecting the entire office would it kill you to "hold his hand" and get everyone back to working?
I guess it's unreasonable to expect people to show up on time and help their co-workers. I don't know what I was thinking. Maybe I'm just bitter because he works for a banner ad shop.
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CAPTCHA: GENIUS
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And $1000 bucks says that Neal's boss shortly there after fired Neal on trumpted up BS because the boss made a fool of himself, and promptly blamed Neal.
How many other readers have been canned because they in some form or fashion fixed the idiocy of their co-workers, only to be shown the door...
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I think it's unreasonable for you to jump on Neal because he doesn't "value time at the highest regard" (which is quite a judgment to make) but yet you don't seem to have a problem with his co-workers not having the highest regard for intelligence and logic. I'd rather have a bright coworker who occasionally comes in late than have an office full of dumbasses who show up early.
You consider this a "roadblock"? If this is a roadblock for them, I'm surprised they get anything done at all. I guess it's unreasonable to assume your coworkers can find their ass with both hands. As far as it "only costing time", I don't know what reality you live in, but when I have to stop what I'm doing to go help some doofus with a problem that they really, really should be able to figure out themselves, I'd say that time is extremely valuable. Especially when you're on a tight deadline.
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There's a way to correct somebody without making them look like an idiot. You don't have to be a PR man to figure out a better way to "suggest" the correct answer rather than saying "OMG! It's the filters that YOU put on your browser you dummyface!". If you address the situation properly and get fired, I wouldn't want to work there anyways. Hello severance and time to look for a better job.
Read up the thread sir. I already pointed out that his co-workers are morons. It's a given which I assumed everyone agreed on. There's nothing to even discuss. Personally, I'd rather have a bright coworker who comes in on time. Everyone's human though.
You say that time is extremely valuable? So what does Neil owe his employer for coming in 45 minutes late? If Neil's time was important and he had a tight deadline, it's totally unacceptable to come in late. If his time isn't really that important, then what's the big deal of taking 5 minutes to get the rest of the idiots in the office back to working?
Don't forget the double standard on being late and staying late.
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zoom
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The fact that you take it as a "given" is the problem I have with your answers. Like I've pointed out, you're coming across as the type that has a double standard in judging employees. The idiots are never judged as harshly as the non-idiots, and the fact that you seem to get your panties in a wad over Neal's being late much more than the rest of the office being baffoons is a bit messed up. Also based on what info was given, it hardly sounds like Neal makes it a habit of being late, so why you're painting him as having cronic tardiness is beyond me.
And I'm not sure what the double standard on being late/staying late has to do with anything, since nothing is mentioned about that and you have no idea if Neal worked over an extra 45 minutes to make up for it or not.
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I have no double standards on judging people. The only reason I contributed to this thread is to dispel the double standard in the other direction. The original story and most of the other comments talk about how stupid the boss and group of people are. Ok, why do I need to talk about it again when I don't have anything new to contribute? They don't seem like the most brillant people, but I'm not entirely convinced I can judge them based on their lack of Opera troubleshooting skills. I'll just judge them based on the fact that they were apparently just hanging around listening to the bossman yelling.
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As the Neal who submitted this story let me (hopefully) end this argument by noting that the details you're arguing over were created by Alex as a lead-in to the story. In fact I arrived in the early afternoon to finish cleaning out my office and to say goodbye to my co-workers after leaving the company's employment (in fair terms and with plenty of notice) the day before. I wouldn't have even been there had I not worked my entire last day and then some.
Yes, I know you're arguing the generic so this doesn't really matter, but I'd really hate to read a new WTF about the guys who lost their jobs because they spent all day arguing on TDWTF instead of working.
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Okay, so Neal owes them 45 minutes. But everyone else, while present, was doing absolutely NOTHING for that time, INCLUDING the president. Therefore, THEY all owe the company 45 minutes, too. There was probably something they were supposed to be doing, right? He simply cannot be held responsible for the sheer incompetence of his co-workers. The president's time, maybe, except that if HE hadn't also acted like an idiot, he would have realized the improbability of what he was suggesting, and moved on to something else... searching for 'war banners' is hardly a required part of his job. Neal's lateness in no way held up the normal functioning of any of them.
On a side note, Neal showing up late does NOT indicate that he finds time to be worthless... it indicates (at most) that he values a bit extra sleep more than showing up on time (time sleeping > time at work). Even that is false, because apparently it was an accident, and not the norm. Furthermore, do we even know if he WAS on a tight schedule? From what I read, this was supposed to be just another normal day at the office. Therefore, any punishment should not exceed what it would normally be, as it was pure chance that the one day he was late happened to be the very day the boss was going to come unglued.
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"I'd really hate to read a new WTF about the guys who lost their jobs because they spent all day arguing on TDWTF instead of working."
LMAO
captcha = enterprisey
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LAST!!
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I couldn't stop laughing!
My wife gave me such a look, but how can i explain this? =)
-dave-
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So, did the president tender his resignation, moved to a new country, and changed his name?
Owned. LOL
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Ah I love it... Was it in Starship Troopers where people where whipped in public as a punishment for incompetence? I would vote for having that in the real world.
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In case you're wondering why people seem to be picking on you for your well-meaning correction . . .
http://www.everything2.com/index.pl?node_id=160578
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WOW...People actually read these things and worse yet comment on these type of things!!!
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article waaaayyyy to long and boring
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Too bad they've gone Microsoft with the UI and settings on updates. You carefully craft your UI and settings the way you like them and then they fuck you over every time you update. Used it since version 3 and basically liked the UI, but not this idiocy.
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I'm no genius in the tech area, but I know how to "pimp my search"! If you had gone to Google and entered the following: " banner ads+_______" ; chances are very good that you would find the info you were seeking. Using the + (PLUS sign) has always been helpful when my searches don't yield the results I need. I did try this just to be sure, & it worked, but maybe the bigger problem is people being disenchanted w/a business? Google made a promise not to use banner ads. However, in 2013, in the course of doing business, they decided to start running banner ads. People are either okay with this or it seems they take it almost personally.
Google is a business - their goal is to make money - just like any other business. There have been SO many crazy conspiracy-type stories about Google lately, & it seems the press only adds fuel to the fire. It's time to get over it & just accept the fact that Google is a very successful business, & just be grateful they aren't moving operations to China to save a buck!!!