• Those who live in glass houses... (unregistered) in reply to FlyboyFred
    FlyboyFred:
    "Security questions" are TRWTF.
    I wish all you ivory tower security-wannabes would get off your high horses. Security questions ARE passwords! Do you even know what passwords mean? They mean something you know to log in. Security questions are something you know to log in. Now STFU.

    Damn, I'm actually right this time ...

  • (cs) in reply to Those who live in glass houses...
    Those who live in glass houses...:
    FlyboyFred:
    "Security questions" are TRWTF.
    I wish all you ivory tower security-wannabes would get off your high horses. Security questions ARE passwords! Do you even know what passwords mean? They mean something you know to log in. Security questions are something you know to log in. Now STFU.

    Damn, I'm actually right this time ...

    Even a stopped clock is right twice a day. Just sayin'.

  • (cs) in reply to BS
    BS:
    AverageJon:
    {Sunday, Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Yesterday, Today, and Tomorrow} = 10 days.
    I'm sorry, Tomorrow is not a valid *day* of the week.

    No, but it will be tomorrow. Where's the problem?

  • (cs)

    My current policy for security questions is to make up an outlandish answer and then just stick them in my KeePass database as custom strings.

    I'm still waiting for the day when someone realizes that my favorite food is apparently "Dog".

  • Man (unregistered)

    "It would appear that Apple finished their repairs after shipping it to me?"

    Sup, it was a repair on the fly.

  • (cs)

    Wow, the CSS one is jaw-droppingly unbelievable. I wonder how much they charge for tuition - for a Batchelor's degree no less. I do hope its not genuine.... I see from the net it is a real college, & it seems to be a controversial topic of discussion

  • (cs) in reply to MiffTheFox
    MiffTheFox:
    I'm still waiting for the day when someone realizes that my favorite food is apparently "Dog".
    So, no defense at all against North Korean cyberwarriors?
  • CopyAndWaste (unregistered) in reply to galgorah
    galgorah:
    Sam:
    Mason Wheeler:
    That cold water is probably supposed to be reading "16.5° C". Either that or it's in a very high-air-pressure environment...
    Actually, the display's mislabelled. It's 165K - REALLY cold.
    I prefer a temp of 295.3722222 kelvin when I sleep

    The problem is that some say time stands still at that temperature. So when you woke up you will not have slept at all even though for us years can pass by.

  • CopyAndWaste (unregistered) in reply to ekolis

    [quote user="ekolis"][quote user="Bob"] The water dispenser is capable of dispensing steam? [/quote]

    Yes, and you have to take it with your bare hands because the beaker would obviously just melt.

  • CopyAndWaste (unregistered) in reply to the beholder
    the beholder:
    Rumen's Boss:
    My guess would be that the ADC computes the temperature in Fahrenheit and then converts to Celsius, but that the conversion was programmed in backward. 165 would backward convert to 73, which would be normal for cold water.
    73ºC is quite hot. Fusion happens at 0ºC and boiling at 100ºC. Do the math.

    Fusion? You mean cold fusion?

  • Mr.'; Drop Database -- (unregistered)

    18446744073709551613 in hex is 0xfffffffffffffffd, which appears to be -3 cast to an unsigned long.

  • Costello (unregistered) in reply to Abbot
    Abbot:
    He's on thrid.
    No, He's on frist.
  • (cs) in reply to Those who live in glass houses...
    Those who live in glass houses...:
    I wish all you ivory tower math-wannabes would get off your high horses. Celsius IS Fahrenheit! Do you even know what degrees mean? They mean to measure a temperature. Fahrenheit is a temperature. Now STFU.
    Obvious troll is obvious. Very, very obvious.
  • (cs) in reply to dohpaz42
    dohpaz42:
    snoofle:
    dohpaz42:
    Who's on first?
    I Don't Know.

    I don't know is on second.

    Let's see if I can remember them all:

    First: Who Second: What Third: I don't know ?: Today ?: Tomorrow ?: Why ?: Because Shortstop: I don't give a darn

    ... and I'm apparently missing one.

    EDIT: Oh yeah, "Naturally." EDIT2: Cheat sheet: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sShMA85pv8M

    Addendum (2011-07-29 21:12): EDIT3: Scratch "Naturally". Abbott and Costello are missing one as well.

    First: Who Second: What Third: I Don't Know Left field: Why Center field: Because Pitcher: Tomorrow Catcher: Today Shortstop: I Don't Give a Darn Right field: (not specified)

    Addendum (2011-07-29 21:13): Er, I mean...

    Right field: FILE_NOT_FOUND

    ... of course.

  • Pedantry, thy name is.... Me (unregistered) in reply to the beholder

    Fusion occurs at about 10 million degrees Kelvin (10 million degrees above absolute zero). In terms of Fahrenheit temperature that's about 20 million degrees Fahrenheit (in round numbers).

    Freezing occurs at 0ºC (32ºF).

  • Complete Looney (unregistered)

    Was $149, now $148.99? Since this is in Australia (see the abbreviated Telstra), if you pay cash it will still cost you $149 since we round to the nearest 0.05 anyway.

  • The Crunger (unregistered) in reply to intergalacticz
    intergalacticz:
    I do not understand why the price reduction is a WTF. So what if the store only reduced the price by one penny. Obviously, it is not that great of a discount, but there is no failure there. Am I missing something?

    Are you trolling? This is an Epic Failure, in retail-land.

    You can't sell anything if you don't trick people into thinking they're saving big money.

    Epic Fail #1: not rounding the original price to $150, so the guy seeing the "new" price of 149.99 will know he's saving $10.

    Epic Fail #2: not boosting the price 50% the afternoon before the promo, so that people know how much money they are saving.

    Captcha venio: a contraction of vidi vici veni

  • (cs)

    A 10-day week? Those pro-metric fucks will stop at nothing!

  • (cs)

    My first thought seeing the first one was "haha, July 2011? That's like months from now... wait..."

    The water dispenser isn't claiming 165°C is cold. It's just saying the left button gives cold water and the right button gives boiling steam. Careful there! I guess the WTF is it can give a precise temperature for one side, but just a vague "cold" for the other. Dispensing steam may be a bit strange, but at least the button is clearly labelled.

    Now, secret questions, there's the real WTF. Especially when you're forced to choose one, can't write your own, and they're all things anyone could find out about you with minimal effort. Especially "make of your first car" - maybe this works in Europe, but how many guesses would this take for an American? Even before eliminating those less than 8 characters. Lesee, Ford, Chevrolet, Honda, Toyota, Mazda... you're probably in by now.

  • (cs) in reply to CopyAndWaste
    CopyAndWaste:
    galgorah:
    Sam:
    Mason Wheeler:
    That cold water is probably supposed to be reading "16.5° C". Either that or it's in a very high-air-pressure environment...
    Actually, the display's mislabelled. It's 165K - REALLY cold.
    I prefer a temp of 295.3722222 kelvin when I sleep

    The problem is that some say time stands still at that temperature. So when you woke up you will not have slept at all even though for us years can pass by.

    Or would it be the other way around? 1) Stop time 2) Sleep as long as you like 3) Wake up, start time again 4) Enjoy sleeping as long as you want whenever you want and still having all 24 hours of each day to do as you please!

    The only problem is you'd age faster than everyone else, as for every 24 hours they live, you've lived 32 or more... Maybe not a big deal though. When all your friends are 60, you'll be 80.

  • Kasper (unregistered)

    I see the irony in number 3, they wrote client-side scripting instead of cross-site scripting.

    About number 6, I have to say 8 days a week should be enough for anybody.

    On a more serious note, I don't think the second part of number 9 is really a wtf. I think those security questions are ridiculous. I like my passwords long, and I don't like the idea of somebody being able to bypass my password by guessing the answer to some trivial question.

    If I came across a site that would allow me to choose "What is your favorite Internet password?" as a security question, I would totally choose that password and write PthTylV4goHrU3iMDsmGlNE46IqhE2Tx as the answer.

  • (cs) in reply to Pedantry, thy name is.... Me
    Pedantry:
    Fusion occurs at about 10 million degrees Kelvin (10 million degrees above absolute zero). In terms of Fahrenheit temperature that's about 20 million degrees Fahrenheit (in round numbers).

    Freezing occurs at 0ºC (32ºF).

    YHBT. Google "enthalpy of fusion". Turns out the word "fusion" has more than one meaning, one of which specifically refers to the energy change during the phase transition from solid to liquid (or vice-versa).
  • forthelulz (unregistered) in reply to Kasper
    If I came across a site that would allow me to choose "What is your favorite Internet password?" as a security question, I would totally choose that password and write PthTylV4goHrU3iMDsmGlNE46IqhE2Tx as the answer.

    Exactly. Just because the questions is "What is 1+1?" doesn't mean you have to answer 2.

  • noname (unregistered) in reply to forthelulz
    forthelulz:
    If I came across a site that would allow me to choose "What is your favorite Internet password?" as a security question, I would totally choose that password and write PthTylV4goHrU3iMDsmGlNE46IqhE2Tx as the answer.

    Exactly. Just because the questions is "What is 1+1?" doesn't mean you have to answer 2.

    Which means it's just another password (just one that will be significantly more insecure for most users), I sense another Yo Dawg meme coming on...

  • (cs) in reply to lolwtf
    lolwtf:
    My first thought seeing the first one was "haha, July 2011? That's like months from now... wait..."

    The water dispenser isn't claiming 165°C is cold. It's just saying the left button gives cold water and the right button gives boiling steam. Careful there! I guess the WTF is it can give a precise temperature for one side, but just a vague "cold" for the other. Dispensing steam may be a bit strange, but at least the button is clearly labelled.

    Now, secret questions, there's the real WTF. Especially when you're forced to choose one, can't write your own, and they're all things anyone could find out about you with minimal effort. Especially "make of your first car" - maybe this works in Europe, but how many guesses would this take for an American? Even before eliminating those less than 8 characters. Lesee, Ford, Chevrolet, Honda, Toyota, Mazda... you're probably in by now.

    If you have a pot with tea leaves in it, make sure you have well-insulating industrial safety gloves on and open the spigot so the steam is directed into the pot. It makes a smashing cup of tea - the hotter the steam the better.

  • Physics Nazi (unregistered) in reply to the beholder
    the beholder:
    73ºC is quite hot. Fusion happens at 0ºC and boiling at 100ºC. Do the math.

    That would be cold fusion.

  • Brendan (unregistered) in reply to Complete Looney
    Complete Looney:
    Was $149, now $148.99? Since this is in Australia (see the abbreviated Telstra), if you pay cash it will still cost you $149 since we round to the nearest 0.05 anyway.

    Yes; but if you want to buy 14899 of them at the same time, at the new price you can afford to buy an extra one (a cold spare?).

  • iMalc (unregistered)

    We WILL ask you for your password.

  • (cs) in reply to method1
    method1:
    ... a Batchelor's degree no less.
    It's the world of the Marching Morons.
  • Anonymous (unregistered) in reply to BS

    Actually in Mexico we always say there are 8 days of the week. If today is Monday that is [Monday, Tuesday. Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday, Monday]= one week. cause they always count from today until the same day next week.

  • Anonymous (unregistered) in reply to PedanticCurmudgeon

    Well a security question is not usually a normal password cause it doesn't log you in, It usually just sends you your password by email to the email account you registered. so they are not that important. maybe they use them to prevent someone from sending you a million reminders of your password by email.

  • just me (unregistered) in reply to The Crunger
    The Crunger:
    vidi vici veni
    "I saw, won, and came"... I suppose that's the womanizer's variant of the proverb?
  • Use SI units! (unregistered) in reply to CopyAndWaste

    Who said that time stands still at 22.2°C (or 72°F for the poor guys still using prescientific units)?

  • (cs) in reply to Anonymous
    Anonymous:
    Actually in Mexico we always say there are 8 days of the week. If today is Monday that is [Monday, Tuesday. Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday, Monday]= one week. cause they always count from today until the same day next week.

    Damn zero-based indexing gets in everywhere!

    As for out-of-the-box answers to standard security questions, I'm using the following string for the "Organization:" header (which nobody ever reads) on Usenet:

    16' Violone 8' Principal 8' Lieblichflote 8' Vox Humana 4' Nachthorn III Zimbel Tremulant

  • (cs)

    RE: "Don't spend the savings all in one place"

    The product pictured appears to be for an Australian mobile providers' prepaid mobile broadband service.

    In Australia, they have removed 1c and 2c coins from circulation. This means that when the customer reaches the checkout, they will only be charged the exact ammount if they are paying electronically. If they want top pay with cash, the total payment will be rounded (normally up) to the nearest multiple of 5c.

    So, if someone bought that device by itself, and paid with cash, they would end up paying the original price.

  • enim (unregistered) in reply to Coyne
    Coyne:
    Whoever wrote the question on "favorite internet password" is either a hacker or else unclear on the concept.

    This has set a new low bar for dumb.

    I don't think it's all that stupid. I seem to remember people a few days ago (maybe weeks - I haven't got the hang of the 10 day week yet) making the comment that they use those fields to store other passwords anyway...

    That said, it does invite a lot of idiots to use Blink182 or qwe123 or iamgod.... But I suppose they probably use those passwords anyway.

  • enim (unregistered) in reply to the beholder
    the beholder:
    Rumen's Boss:
    My guess would be that the ADC computes the temperature in Fahrenheit and then converts to Celsius, but that the conversion was programmed in backward. 165 would backward convert to 73, which would be normal for cold water.
    73ºC is quite hot. Fusion happens at 0ºC and boiling at 100ºC. Do the math.
    I think what he means is that it's 73F, and when they converted to Celsius, they did the wrong conversion and came up with 165C instead of 23C (I think). I wouldn'y have thought 23C was overly cool water, but I suppose it's plausible
  • saepius (unregistered) in reply to foo
    foo:
    the beholder:
    Bob:
    I'm assuming the water display indicates the left button is for "cold" water, and the right button is "165C" water... unless your water machine can dispense carbonated water as the button icon would suggest.
    I don't think it would be wise having a machine deliver a steam jet (far beyond boiling point) to an unaware customer.

    Then again, who said this is not some sort of torture device?

    No, it's a test for new applicants. They leave them in a room with this device and if they push the right button ... well, they save valuable interview time and more WTFs further down.
    What if they push the wrong button? Or is the right button the wrong button?

  • decet (unregistered) in reply to lolwtf
    lolwtf:
    My first thought seeing the first one was "haha, July 2011? That's like months from now... wait..."

    The water dispenser isn't claiming 165°C is cold. It's just saying the left button gives cold water and the right button gives boiling steam. Careful there! I guess the WTF is it can give a precise temperature for one side, but just a vague "cold" for the other. Dispensing steam may be a bit strange, but at least the button is clearly labelled.

    Now, secret questions, there's the real WTF. Especially when you're forced to choose one, can't write your own, and they're all things anyone could find out about you with minimal effort. Especially "make of your first car" - maybe this works in Europe, but how many guesses would this take for an American? Even before eliminating those less than 8 characters. Lesee, Ford, Chevrolet, Honda, Toyota, Mazda... you're probably in by now.

    I reckon the idea is that people will have affectionate names for the makes eg: daddo, Michi-Bichi, Chevy etc...

    The problem is, the average user iz not that smart!! And those that are probably don't forget their passwords often....

  • caecus (unregistered) in reply to Kasper
    Kasper:
    I see the irony in number 3, they wrote client-side scripting instead of cross-site scripting.

    About number 6, I have to say 8 days a week should be enough for anybody.

    On a more serious note, I don't think the second part of number 9 is really a wtf. I think those security questions are ridiculous. I like my passwords long, and I don't like the idea of somebody being able to bypass my password by guessing the answer to some trivial question.

    If I came across a site that would allow me to choose "What is your favorite Internet password?" as a security question, I would totally choose that password and write PthTylV4goHrU3iMDsmGlNE46IqhE2Tx as the answer.

    Noted.

    script deployed to try each site username: Kasper password: PthTylV4goHrU3iMDsmGlNE46IqhE2Tx

  • (cs) in reply to Those who live in glass houses...

    Get him a VW he can still write Volkswagen

  • (cs)

    Good thing that my first car was a Lamborghini, and not a McLaren, a Ferrari or a Bugatti.

    Who came up with such a stupid question? Basically, you cannot drive a Renault, Peugeot, Citroën, BMW, Audi, Opel, Volvo, Saab, Bentley, Toyota, Nissan, Honda, Suzuki, Fiat, Ferrari, Bugatti, Pagani, Lada, Skoda, Seat, Mini, Ford, Buick, or Dodge.

    Allowed are Mercedes, Volkswagen, Rolls Royce, Lamborghini, and Maserati.

    It's reasonable to assume that this guy's first car was made by Fisher Price, and that he drives it to this day.

  • (cs) in reply to just me
    just me:
    The Crunger:
    vidi vici veni
    "I saw, won, and came"... I suppose that's the womanizer's variant of the proverb?
    The women's version would be: "I came, I saw, I criticised his choice of tie."
  • (cs)

    Ahhh, nothing better than a nice cold cup of superheated steam to start the day...

  • (cs) in reply to Pedantry, thy name is.... Me
    Pedantry:
    Fusion occurs at about 10 million degrees Kelvin (10 million degrees above absolute zero). In terms of Fahrenheit temperature that's about 20 million degrees Fahrenheit (in round numbers).

    Freezing occurs at 0ºC (32ºF).

    So your point is american high schools don't teach anything?

    But don't worry, here in Europe it's not really brilliant anymore either. I had to argue 30 minutes with some perfectly sane computer engineers with degrees and all to make them understand that the melted Fukushima cores had not entered nuclear fusion.

  • the beholder (unregistered) in reply to Pedantry, thy name is.... Me
    Pedantry:
    Fusion occurs at about 10 million degrees Kelvin (10 million degrees above absolute zero). In terms of Fahrenheit temperature that's about 20 million degrees Fahrenheit (in round numbers).

    Freezing occurs at 0ºC (32ºF).

    My bad. In my language, the physical change from solid to liquid is called fusão, and I assumed it would translate directly. Turns out I would be right if we were speaking about atomic bombs, but not about liquids.

  • (cs) in reply to GFK
    GFK:
    But don't worry, here in Europe it's not really brilliant anymore either. I had to argue 30 minutes with some perfectly sane computer engineers with degrees and all to make them understand that the melted Fukushima cores had not entered nuclear fusion.
    Were these engineers by any chance born towards the end of April 1986?
  • itsmo (unregistered) in reply to the beholder
    the beholder:
    Pedantry:
    Fusion occurs at about 10 million degrees Kelvin (10 million degrees above absolute zero). In terms of Fahrenheit temperature that's about 20 million degrees Fahrenheit (in round numbers).

    Freezing occurs at 0ºC (32ºF).

    My bad. In my language, the physical change from solid to liquid is called fusão, and I assumed it would translate directly. Turns out I would be right if we were speaking about atomic bombs, but not about liquids.

    No - you are correct. Portugese and English agree on this, for those of us who can speak either of them correctly:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Latent_heat_of_fusion

  • Hans (unregistered) in reply to AverageJon

    Ah, that's why it takes so long to get anything done "by today"

  • (cs) in reply to Mr.'; Drop Database --
    Mr.'; Drop Database --:
    18446744073709551613 in hex is 0xfffffffffffffffd, which appears to be -3 cast to an unsigned long.
    That's probably why Ada and Pascal both have integer types with limited ranges, and they try to prevent you from shooting yourself in the foot.

    I think that the whole problem came from C, where there's no function overloading. Thus if someone decides that some function takes an array of signed integers, there's no way to safely pass it an array of unsigned ones. And so on. The disgrace is perpetuated by plenty of frameworks, even C++ frameworks, that insist on using signed types for storage sizes (Qt, I'm looking at you!).

    There's absolutely no reason for this bug to ever happen if the software was correctly designed as a system.

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