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My favorite line is the last one:
"Sorry for the lots of typos but i was in a real hurry when writong this document"
He/She had time to write that comment, but not enough time to spellcheck? priceless.
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My favorite is the 'Billing' section. That's a precise description. It's clearer than the rest...
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<FONT face="Times New Roman">Billing<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /><o:p></o:p></FONT>
<o:p><FONT face="Times New Roman"> </FONT></o:p>
<FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3>I won’t describe this</FONT>
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[:O][:(][:S][:|][:'(][:@][6][:^)][+o(][*-)][8o|][^o)]
that's what I think when I get requests like this...
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That sounds like a dream. I hope there's still time to bid on that sweet baby.
<FONT face="Times New Roman">Billing<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /><o:p></o:p></FONT>
<o:p><FONT face="Times New Roman"> </FONT></o:p>
<FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3>I won’t describe this</FONT>
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Billing is really overrated, and as for his home, maybe he lives at an ISP? Maybe when you drop by his house to see your orders he'll make you some tea?
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Brilliant, I want to bid on this right now... I know that if this guy's house was robbed, my lovely e-commerce site will go with the theif, and my goodness, I hope he has a halon system to snuff out any fires that may crop up. Ooh ooh, how about power issues; redundancy, generators?? If any one actually considers this proposal, they must be out of their f'ing minds.
<font size="6">WTF![:'(]</font>
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My favourite lines are:
"And a table-like something appear that ordered items reside in"
"The essence of the new order is to let us know we have a new order"
"For the product we will need a function that two pictures One of them is the small Other one is big"
Csaboka
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I'd accept it.
$300,000 up front. Non-refundable :)
Heck, I'd even host it for him, I already host my own website.
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I don't see the problem. My bosses routinely hand me specs like this.
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The essence of the new order is to let us know we have a new order
Absolutely.
Priceless.
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A semi-unrelated WTF inspired by the OP:
Does his name (Péter) really have an accent over the E when properly spelled/pronounced, or is he just trying to be interesting?
I mean, when you say "PEE-TER", the accent already IS on the first E, why add an explicit one?
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Ok, maybe it's just me but I think a copy pasted post did break havoc on the html of this thread. The funny part seems to be that the offending post was copied from Open Office and IE can't show the full page but FF can.
Anyway, about the "spec", it's hard to believe this was forged in Word 2002, a napkin seem more suitable to this.
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Billing
I won’t describe this
This just so happens to be his finest grammar and spelling in the entire document. It's also about as informative as the other sections too.
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someone borked their post! -->
</style>someone borked their post!
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Billing
I won’t describe this
This just so happens to be his finest grammar and spelling in the entire document. It's also about as informative as the other sections too.
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PS: Is now a good time to point out this forum software is WTF'd as well?
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You'd have a point about the spelling of the name if the mark was used merely to mark the accented syllable. The acute mark is diacritical in many (most?) languages with it. In other words, it changes the sound. e.g., in French it changes the pronunciation (transcribed in English) from "puh" to "pay".
After a quick google, it appears Péter is a common Hungarian name. It also seems e and é are pronounced the same, or at least very similarly, in Hungarian as they are in French. The examples given were the e sounds in "set" and "grey".
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A word document? WTF! :P
So is the name pronounced pété or péteur?
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English was not this person's first language, or at least I'm hoping that's the case.
On a lighter note, the forum is acting weird. On the front page it showed there were 18 replies, and when I went to view this particular thread, the notation at the bottom said "Page 1 of 1 (20 items)". Alex's initial post plus 18 replies does not equal 20. Also I was able to easily notice that there's actually only about 5 replies displayed, a far cry from the 18 that are supposedly there. Maybe they're just really REALLY short posts.
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Upon further investigation, it looks like all the responses are there in the HTML, they're just not being displayed in my browser. Sorry I don't have the time to wade through all that output Alex, hopefully you (or a motivated reader) can lead us to salvation.
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<FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #efefef">WTF Mate! Somehow this excerpt below explains the bad grammar and spelling and completely makes up for the whole document! [:D]</FONT>
<FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #efefef">"<FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3>Sorry for the lots of typos but i was in a real hurry when writong this document"</FONT>
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"Billing: I won’t describe this"
Gahhh! WTF do you want?
The worst part is I've had (my employer's) clients give me about as many details and wondered why the project ran over budget.
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It's also pretty amazing that he's going to host it on a satellite system. Those are high-latency systems, with pathetically slow upload times (I was on one for 2 years because I live in the boonies)
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<FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #efefef">The original document (written in Hungarian) was published on prog.hu, a Hungarian programming community site and believe me, Péter did great job with the translation. He did not add any unnecessary typos or semantical errors -- it truly reflects the style and contents of the original document.</FONT>
Funny that there were a few volunteers to implement the spec. For a reasonable amount of money, I guess :)
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The reason for the forum quirk (in IE only as far as I can tell) was an open ended <style> tag in the second post. It caught me offguard at first too, so I posted a closing </style> before (or between) the Billing comments on the first page. To see the missing comments, try FireFox of another moz browser.
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Err, not Péter, but Zoltán. Hungarian has reversed name order compared to most languages, it's surname + first name instead of first name + surname. Both Zoltán and Péter are surnames in Hungarian (like John James) , however, so it's easy to mix them up...
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Sofware<o:p></o:p>
<o:p> </o:p>
<o:p> </o:p>
Windows platform
<o:p> </o:p>
- The server is gonna be at my home, connects to the internet through satellite with fix IP
- There will be 2 software
<o:p> </o:p>
Central software
<o:p> </o:p>
This will run on my machine in Windows environment
You can set customer details with this
Enter its identifier
<o:p> </o:p>
<o:p> </o:p>
Client’s software
<o:p> </o:p>
It will allow the client to upload his webpage
<o:p> </o:p>
Forr this he must supply the indentifier we sett at the central software
If the system accepts this identifier, he will see his data and what design he ordered
And by clicking the next button, he can set his ftp server data
<o:p> </o:p>
<o:p> </o:p>
<o:p> </o:p>
Module to be developed later on<o:p></o:p>
<o:p> </o:p>
<o:p> </o:p>
- Separate ordering software
- Buildinordering accepting system
- Billing
- Domain records
<o:p> </o:p>
<o:p> </o:p>
Ordering software
<o:p> </o:p>
- Softwar downloadable by anyone before he is our customer
<o:p> </o:p>
<!--[if !supportLists]-->- <!--[endif]-->Because this software asks at the first start if you’re already our customer or not
<o:p> </o:p>
If not, a window comes up that allows registration into our database
If this is comlpeded, the software will send us and instantly replies with the order ID
And the program had already stored it as well
<o:p> </o:p>
And this system now contains a menu
<o:p> </o:p>
Order è<o:p></o:p>
New order
<o:p> </o:p>
<!--[if !supportLists]-->- <!--[endif]-->New order: When customer click on it, his data instantllly written into fields as procurer
And a table-like something appear that ordered items reside in
And there is a menu like catalog
Inthis comes up a category window that is donloaded from the server on demand
<o:p> </o:p>
Then we have chosen the category
<o:p> </o:p>
Then a window comes up that shows little images for example the image of the design, this is downloaded now as well
<o:p> </o:p>
And when we click on a picture then a bigger picture comes in – downloaded right then
<o:p> </o:p>
And below the price appears that is downloaded as well on demand now
<o:p> </o:p>
And you can go to the next design or the previous
<o:p> </o:p>
And or to instant order
<o:p> </o:p>
And there will be a button like send order ner the catalog button
<o:p> </o:p>
Thiss will send the order for us
<o:p> </o:p>
And there will be application for domain
<o:p> </o:p>
You will be able to choose a plan here
<o:p> </o:p>
<o:p> </o:p>
<o:p> </o:p>
<o:p> </o:p>
Central system advancements<o:p></o:p>
<o:p> </o:p>
<o:p> </o:p>
<!--[if !supportLists]-->- <!--[endif]-->Under the menu will appear texts like:
<o:p> </o:p>
New orders (xx)
New order (xx)
New domain request (xx)
<o:p> </o:p>
This will be in background
<o:p> </o:p>
The essence of the new order is to let us know we have a new order
<o:p> </o:p>
A menu like this will be added: Order
<o:p> </o:p>
---------------
New customer
Delete customer
---------
New category
New product
Delete producg
--------
Domain maintenance
Plans
<o:p> </o:p>
The new customer è is recorded by the customers program as well but it’s marked as new customer
<o:p> </o:p>
For the product we will need a function that two pictures
One of them is the small
Other one is big
<o:p> </o:p>
At the domain maintneance it will be listed whoordered domains
<o:p> </o:p>
Billing<o:p></o:p>
<o:p> </o:p>
I won’t describe this
<o:p> </o:p>
<o:p> </o:p>
Domian<o:p></o:p>
<o:p> </o:p>
It is possible to record who has domains from us
<o:p> </o:p>
<o:p> </o:p>
I want to request separate bids on these
<o:p> </o:p>
Sorry for the lots of typos but i was in a real hurry when writong this document
<o:p> </o:p>
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It seems that my yesterday post from this thread was deleted (among others?).
There was a post yesterday containing some html that break havoc in the rendering of the page in IE. It seem to be that the culprit was a text copy/pasted from OpenOffice with a couple of <META> and <STYLE> tags. I suspect the Word 2002 document was opened in OpenOffice and then the poster copied directly from that a paragraph in the 'Rich Textbox" of the reply page.
About "the Spec", It's kind of hard to believe it was written in Word 2002, A napkin appears to be more in the level of professionalism of "the Spec".
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I'm using Safari 1.2.4 (v125.12) right now and I only see a few of the replies. Yesterday with (I think) Opera 7.51 on Linux I saw the same thing. maybe one of the posts is closing the HTML or something.
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From a linguistic standpoint, those are fairly different sounds. The examples you found were not the best. The first is a lax vowel, and the second is tense. A better example would be the vowel sound between 'bet' and 'bait'. This is probably not entirely correct in Hungarian, though, as the sound in 'bait' is actually diphthongized.
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This forum software strikes me as pretty poor compared to phpBB.
But it runs on IIS, I guess.
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Anonymous: Thanks for schooling me about pay-tur, I wasn't intelligent / motivated enough to actually research it. I am thoroughly out-geeked by you![:D]
Re: Satellite internet - I agree, I was on DirecPC for 2 years, and it was completely useless for uploads or online gaming, with ping times in the 600ms range on average! Hosting ANYTHING on such a connection would be beyond WTF, not to mention a violation of Terms of Service for the ISP. (Unless they do in fact have business class satellite internet, which I am not personally aware of.)
-blue
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Yes, accents are for real, as i'm hungarian. We use accents regurarly [:P]
This spec is translated by me, trying to exactly reproduce all spelling and composition shortcomings. The original hungarian pdf is available here. Just for hungarian readers. I know there are some [;)]
http://zka.freeblog.hu/Files/spec.pdf
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Yes, people DO mix it regurarly [:'(][:D]
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Damn, this forum does not work as expected. Bah, sorry for stupid replies [:$]
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Honestly, how can you say you've viewed those IT job-auction boards without seeing ads/requests like: "make me a copy of ebay. My budget is $50."
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Yes, it has got. It is a hungarian name, ant there are a lots of accented letter is this language (I'm a hungarian, too:))
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... which is actually quite difficult.
PHP, and/or PHPBB, are past due for a WTF of their own.
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How do these people get through pre-school without choking on their crayons?
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This is exactly the kind of contract that you bid "half up front" take the half and run.
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In Russia such specs are often referred to as "One can rob corovans", after a fantasy role-playing game design document that became famous for its lameness.
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The poster, or is this actually in the original document? <style>
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WTF you think the prankster who wrote this didn't spend more thinking about his comedy the average wanna be entrepreneur spends documenting ideas. I commend the author I think the real spec was "bait for comments" and it's a master piece! Even got me :P