• doubting_poster (unregistered)

    Ham & Frist Benedict for everyone! Just make the password hard to type and it'll be fine.

  • bvs23bkv33 (unregistered)

    i want to dereference pointers over internet, it is as cool as punching people in the face over internet

  • Little Bobby Tables (unregistered)

    I'm puzzled over where the WTF is on the conversion between square feet and square km.

    (Failed to resist temptation) Mind you I don't actually know anyone who's got square feet. Flat ones maybe, but not square as such.

  • digital bodybuilder (unregistered)

    This 1x1x1cm, 540g mouse sounds like a great exercise, every day is an arms day.

  • doubting_poster (unregistered) in reply to Little Bobby Tables

    The WTF is the scientific notation used in the 'help' for an approximation. Doesn't really help the average person calculate it in their head, which is the implied use.

  • Ondřej Vágner (google)

    I wouldn't exactly call a wireless mouse weighing half a kilogram "lightweight".

  • (nodebb) in reply to Ondřej Vágner

    Especially since it's only 1 cubic centimetre, therefore having a density 45 times that of lead.

  • Little Bobby Tables (unregistered) in reply to doubting_poster

    "In your head" -- implied by whom?

    I for one would consider a conversion routine which did not provide the actual conversion factor used (or an approximation) to be a pretty poor converter. TRWTF is innumerates, mathematical imbeciles and other assorted subhuman maroons who are completely incapable of mastering such basic concepts of arithmetic.

  • Dude (unregistered)

    45MB storage for a mouse is quite a bit. Does it store your movements and clicks so you can replay them?

  • NULLPTR (unregistered)

    Damnit... this post asked for a NullPointer joke...

  • (nodebb)

    Good one, Mark.

  • Álvaro González (github)

    Are the AA bateries in an external case?

  • (nodebb)

    I think that mouse is a little small for my hand. Maybe it is sized for my niece? I am not sure she would want to be hauling around a mouse that weighs over a pound though.

  • (nodebb)

    Dyn used to be a great service. As soon as Oracle bought them, I started figuring out my escape plan. And I've had free DNS service from them for years because I donated something like $20 back before they charged for any services.

  • Anonymous') OR 1=1; DROP TABLE wtf; -- (unregistered)

    Some mice do have onboard storage, for e.g. saving user profile data (sensitivity settings etc.), and they're usually marketed towards gamers, so that part isn't TRWTF. 45 MB does seem a little excessive for that, but that amount of flash memory is still very cheap these days. I'd guess that Amazon's catalog doesn't have a good way of tagging the metadata for mice, so it calls the onboard storage "Hard Drive Size" instead of a more appropriate name.

    (The 1x1x1 cm size is still a WTF. Clearly just missing metadata there that was replaced by a default.)

  • Kleyguerth (github) in reply to doubting_poster

    So if it said "divide by 10 760 000" it would be easy to calculate in your head? I don't think so... If your goal is to calculate in your head TRWTF is imperial units themselves.

  • (nodebb)

    Fear Inoculum: we don't need to fear the Known Unknowns which are merely Undefined. It's those Unknown Unknowns we need to worry about.

  • (nodebb) in reply to Dude

    My guess would be that the 45MB is for "drivers". Given that it's a Microsoft mouse, that means whatever their version of Intellimouse was in the days of Windows XP.

    Look carefully at the whole listing. It consists almost entirely of WTF material.

  • (nodebb) in reply to Kleyguerth

    So if it said "divide by 10 760 000" it would be easy to calculate in your head?

    No, but if it said "about 11 million", that would be significantly less difficult.

  • (nodebb)

    Confirmed. This is in no way a current MS product, but here's a link for the current set of drivers downloadable for it.

    https://www.microsoft.com/accessories/en-gb/d/natural-wireless-laser-mouse-6000

    Windows 2000SP4 to Windows 8.

  • Herr Otto Flick (unregistered) in reply to doubting_poster
    The WTF is the scientific notation used in the 'help' for an approximation. Doesn't really help the average person calculate it in their head, which is the implied use.

    It doesn't say its an approximation, it says it is the formula that it used to do the conversion, the formula is an approximation. You'd find it easier if it said divide by 10763910.41671?

  • (nodebb) in reply to Herr Otto Flick

    It doesn't say its an approximation

    Not explicitly, but it does say that the value given can be used "for an approximate result".

  • (nodebb)

    O, the centimeter cubed! 540g in there makes it 540 times heavier than water (at 4°C, of course, any other temperature would make the difference slightly less), equivalently a carton of milk would have the weight of half a small car.

    I blame Jimmy Carter for not enforcing the metric system upon the USA in the 70's while had the chance, it is so much easier to work with! Also, you poor USA'ers would not have to do any metric conversions anymore.

    Btw, @Google: an actually rememberable approximation for converting square feet to square meters: 1 m² is approximately 10 feet²...

  • Little Bobby Tables (unregistered) in reply to JiP

    ... and if you want an estimate for the length of a metre, it's approximately how long a pendulum needs to be to have a time period of 1 second. Only approximately, because it depends on where (on earth) you are.

  • (nodebb) in reply to Little Bobby Tables

    Well, to nuance the stuff a bit, I used to have a coworker who stated one of my now favourite quotes: 'Standards are great. Everyone should deploy one.'

  • LinAGKar (unregistered) in reply to Steve_The_Cynic

    And the mouse is 24 times as dense as osmium, the densest stable element.

  • Decius (unregistered)

    "Divide by a little more than one and reduce the exponent by seven" is a perfectly reasonable thing to do in your head.

  • WTFguy (unregistered) in reply to Dude

    @Dude: No silly, the storage isn't to record your clicks.

    The 45MB is storage space for malware. The mouse comes with it zero-ed, but with certain exploits the bad guys can stick all sort of malicious stuff in there where you'd never think to look.

  • markm (unregistered) in reply to Kleyguerth

    "Divide by about 10 million" is close enough for most purposes, and if you can't do that in your head, you should sue your elementary school.

  • (nodebb) in reply to Dude

    "45MB storage for a mouse is quite a bit. Does it store your movements and clicks so you can replay them?" It has to store them so they can later be retrieved by the government spies who are monitoring your every mouse click.

  • (nodebb) in reply to Steve_The_Cynic

    "No, but if it said "about 11 million", that would be significantly less difficult." Umm, yes, but it would also be less accurate. If it said "divide by 2" that would be even easier, but sometimes we want "right" over "easy". If they give a precise number and you only need a rough approximation, you can round. If they give a rough approximation and you need a precise number, you're kind of out of luck.

  • doubting_poster (unregistered) in reply to saneperson

    You're making up requirements. The idea of a suggestion for a quick approximation is that if you don't need a the precise number, maybe it'll help you to next time do it in your head without needing to look it up. If you need a precise number, then the suggestion isn't aimed at you.

    The WTF in this case was that the whole idea falls apart if you start needing scientific notation for the approximation. They should have just not bothered.

  • Tgape (unregistered)

    I had one of those mice, back in the day, but I could never figure out how to get the battery into it, considering that the battery is longer than the mouse. I'd thought it surprisingly heavy, but I didn't do any measurements on it to find out just how heavy it was.

    Pardon me while I schedule a doctor visit to see if I've gotten cancer from that thing...

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