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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t0EqnoaPNLI
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Pineapples are only mildly acidic. The real reason your tongue tingles[1] when you eat a lot of raw pineapple is because of the enzymes, specifically the bromelain[2][3]. Bromelain is a proteolytic, which is why it is included in many off the shelf meat tenderizers, and why pineapple has long been paired with ham. Unfortunately, eat too much pineapple, and that same bromelain actually starts to break down the surface of your tongue, cheeks, gums, etc.
Since heat breaks down enzymes, these effects are lost when pineapple is cooked and you are only left with the mild acidity of the pineapple. Thus, those who can't handle being digested by their food can often enjoy grilled or baked pineapple with ease.
[1] If you're getting pain instead of a tingle, you're eating way too much raw pineapple. Either that, or you need to stop being such a pansy. [2] http://www.worldhealth.net/news/bromelain_pineapple_enzyme/ [3] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fruit_bromelain
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More than two mouthfuls is way too much? I'm overly sensitive to things like that in general - I also can't bear more than the tiniest amount of chilli or other hot spices. I agree that my mouth is the problem, not the pineapple, but it's not a question of being a pansy, it's that it hurts me in a way that it apparently doesn't hurt most people.
Interesting to know it's the enzymes, it tastes pretty damned acidic so I assumed it was that.
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Are you stressed out in your day-to-day life? My physical therapist was telling me about some studies that show that the perception of pain fluctuates depending on your brain's perception of the likely danger the pain causes, and when you're stressed, it assumes every "injury" is life-threatening and amps up the sensation. I noticed that my ability to handle mildly spicy foods fluctuates with stress: less and less spicy foods start to become physically painful to eat. One time I found I couldn't even eat honey mustard wings without pain >.>
That said, even when I'm relaxed, jalapenos are about where it starts to hurt for me. But I can eat pineapple usually.
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For me, it's not that the flavour is too strong or anything like that (I can handle plenty of strength and other sorts of flavour intensity) but rather that pineapple tends to smell rather nasty. Like [spoiler]“uncleaned urinal”[/spoiler] nasty. :mask: I find that it's not too bad when it's really fresh, but otherwise really yuck; pizzas are better off with something else on them (and cutting up the meat finely before putting it on makes it unnecessary to chemically treat it other than by actually cooking it).
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Sometimes but I've always had the same problem, since I was a child, regardless of stress.
Edit: it's been brought to my attention how thoughtless and confusing it was to only say that @Yamikuronue's suggestion isn't the case for me personally once, in response to the overall point she was making, instead of reiterating the same reply it in response to every line of the paragraph she wrote expanding on that point even though I didn't have anything more to add. I do apologise.
For me it's regardless of stress. For me, it's regardless of stress. Pineapple hurts me regardless of stress.Admin
Did you read the rest of my post? I was trying to say that you might be able to eat pineapple sometimes even if you've had bad experiences at other times, because the sensitivity will fluctuate.
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Lorum ipsum discourse sit amet.
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K whatevs. Most people don't try to eat the same thing over and over when it's painful, and since "the problem" involves a broad category of foods, obviously I should have psychically known you'd tried the exact same one over and over rather than, like me, ordering things only to later discover they're spicy and reinforce the perception of the problem that way.
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Don't go all blakey on me.
You suggested the problem might be correlated with stress. I said the problem was regardless of stress. There's nothing nonsensical or contradictory about it not being correlated with stress, for me personally.
It really annoys me when the default assumption is that I don't actually mean what I said because it isn't the same as what you feel in the same situation.
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Because part of my explanation was that pineapple is on the lower end of the scale.
Whatever. I was just trying to share some interesting facts and I've received curt dismissive replies as though I'd pissed on your cheerios, so I'm done here.
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You made a suggestion, I replied saying it wasn't the case for me, you got all pissy with me because I must have not read the rest of your post if I didn't specifically say that pineapple and chilli were both not correlated with stress. And obviously, when I say it it hurts me to eat pineapple I mean I've eaten pineapple once and it hurt unless I specifically say otherwise.
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I wasn't irritated until you just quoted yourself back at me instead of elaborating. You only engaged with one sentence of my post, so I asked if you'd read the rest of it.
You're obviously far more invested in this argument than I am, so whatever, you win, I'm a bitch. Moving on.
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Pineapples are nasty, m'kay?
https://youtu.be/U7eLBwCAwmo
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FTFY.
On topic, I finally had pineapple on pizza several weeks ago. I only ate it because it was the only choice, and it was surprisingly good. For some reason I thought I hated pineapple, but now I'm not sure if I'd ever actually tried it until then.
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As others have mentioned, the flavour changes on cooking, so you might have only had them raw and not liked that
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:popcorn:
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It is not merely that the flavor changes; the proteolytic enzymes (which are, presumably, what cause the pain) are destroyed by cooking.
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I flagged 4 posts to a new topic: Discussing @abarker's potential for pendantry
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https://yipcanjo.files.wordpress.com/2009/07/catfight.png
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I think I saw that one before ...
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Is it still hanzo if it's hanzo'd in another thread?
(for the record, I just GIS'd "catfight". Great minds think alike.)
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You think I put more effort into it? I did actually ... I got distracted by the first rows of things that where definitely not "cats" ... actually there where surprisingly very little cats involved in what GIS proposed.
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Is that in a category inaccessible to TL2/Members? Discourse's error message helpfully tells me that it may be a connection issue, but I suspect it's actually a permissions issue.
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The other thread is in the Lounge, so yes, it's a permissions issue
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It is in The Lounge so you need TL3 Again Discourse helpfully provides you with the wrong information.
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Aw man, I had my TL3 access revoked because I have a life. :sadface:
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ask shadowmod politely and he'll tell you what you need to do to get TL3 back.
Field under:
@shadowmod trustAdmin
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I had one of those, once. I miss it.
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One of these days I'll hopefully learn the meaning of these words.
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So, did you already let them know that the problem persists? They ask ever so kindly :trollface:
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I could have sworn that that particular message (and the unhelpfulness of it) has been posted about before, but searching for the phrase doesn't turn up anything about it other than a previous server meltdown. I'm not sure whether there actually are results and Discourse's search isn't finding them or there actually aren't any results.
I did find this thread on meta.d where Jeff deployed a change that was supposed to split a previous ambiguous error message into three more specific ones (including separate messages for "not found" and "wrong permissions").
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I had one of those. It started disappearing when I got married. I really lost track of it when my first kid was born.
Has anyone seen my life?
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I decided I may as well try reporting it on meta.d, it may get fixed at some point.
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Don't hold your breath.
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You just need to sweeten the deal by suggesting that they remove some bit of color from the message. They cannot resist that stuff.
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Looks like it's been fixed in Git.
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Sure. For example, it's probably unfair to quoted text--or maybe the non-quoted text--to color it differently.
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No, that doesn't work on the discodevs. You have to say that you want more contrast and then propose light color on lighter color. The cognitive dissonance seems to short circuit their bad idea filter. I guess you could call it a CSS injection vulnerability.
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I might do that, or instead I might take it as a blessing; I can't keep up with what I have access to right now.
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Those things are a big part of the reason why I always seem to be time poor.
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I feel ya there. Not helped by neglecting to keep up with the @accalias while doing 2+ weeks of commercial carpet installation. Went to a nice concert after that, though.
What is the "Like on Days n/7" requirement about?
Filed under: I briefly had a life, once.
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http://what.thedailywtf.com/t/sleep-considered-bad-practice-for-reaching-50k/1000/
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apparently you haveto receive likes on 7 separate days in the rolling 100 day window.
you'll have to ask Jeff and Co why that is.
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usually, yeah.
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What if I'm expressing an unpopular opinion in a completely civil way?