• accalia (disco)

    cleaning staff... access to server room....

    there's only one way that was going to end.

    did the cleaner also bring in the floor buffer and accidentally wipe all of their backup tapes on the bottom shelf of the tape storage racks?

  • Zacrath (disco)

    But now when one of the hard drives does fail they won't be able to find the key.

  • Christian_Klammer (disco)

    Why shouldn't they - after all, it will be stuck to the server by sticky tape, then :smile:

  • Zemm (disco)

    No security!

    We recently moved offices and the server room wasn't ready at the time of the office warming party. So the servers were sitting on desks. (Lots of spare desks, room to grow) Someone added a note "do not put beers on me". That's all the "membrain" needed! :smile:

  • Nprz (disco)

    Pretty much like the "legend" of cleaning staff pulling the plug of the server to plug in their vacuum. But this was just a one-time event instead of chronic issue and only the drives got pulled (but the system stayed up without some kind of panic, I'm surprised).

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  • Yamikuronue (disco)

    If there was that much dust, the cleaning staff clearly had the better idea here...

  • tarunik (disco) in reply to Yamikuronue

    No, they should have planned an outage to have the server dusted.

  • xaade (disco) in reply to tarunik

    Not every RAID array supports pulling out more than one or two drives.

    With certain arrays, you pull out 3 or more drives in a 10 drive array, you risk losing the whole thing.

    They are.... so.... damn.... lucky...

  • accalia (disco) in reply to xaade

    why are you buttuming that those drives were properly set up as RAID?

    given the layer of dust and general neglect of the Membrain i'd be more inclined to think it just has drives C:\ E:\ F:\ G:\ H:\ I:\ J:\ K:\ L:\ and M:\

  • xaade (disco) in reply to accalia
    accalia:
    why are you buttuming that those drives were properly set up as RAID?

    I generally think optimistically of people.

    It gets me burnt from time to time, but it does wonders for my ability to solve domestic (as in workplace, or extended family, etc. Fine, just replace with "internal") issues.

  • accalia (disco) in reply to xaade
    xaade:
    I generally think optimistically of people.

    fair enough then. ;-)

  • Yamikuronue (disco) in reply to tarunik

    It is more correct to clean the drives than to ignore the fact that they're getting dusty until they fail.

    It is most correct to put into place plans and precautions so that they can clean the drives with no outage, but that doesn't invalidate my previous statement :)

  • xaade (disco) in reply to Yamikuronue

    It is less correct for contracted cleaning workers to speculate on what and how they should clean.

  • abarker (disco) in reply to accalia
    accalia:
    given the layer of dust and general neglect of the Membrain i'd be more inclined to think it just has drives C:\ E:\ F:\ G:\ H:\ I:\ J:\ K:\ L:\ and M:\

    Even that's optimistic. For all we know they were C:\ F:\ H:\ I:\ L:\ Q:\ U:\ X:\ Y:\ and Z:. Because they used to have those other drives, but they failed. Or they were for tapes backups, but who needs them anymore? And you know you want to assign the drive letters so that mapped network drives don't get messed up, right? :trollface:

  • DaveK (disco)

    TRWTF is having missed the opportunity to title this article "Insane in the Membrain".

  • Polygeekery (disco)
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  • Jaloopa (disco) in reply to Polygeekery

    One drive left up. They go into the server room where the cleaner is staring at the final hard drive. She turns round and says "I need more lemon pledge"

  • JBert (disco) in reply to DaveK
    DaveK:
    TRWTF is having missed the opportunity to title this article "Insane in the Membrain".
    That's left as an exercise for the reader.
  • Polygeekery (disco) in reply to Jaloopa
    Jaloopa:
    One drive left up. They go into the server room where the cleaner is staring at the final hard drive. She turns round and says "**Lemon Pledge, we need more**"

    FTFY

  • Masaaki_Hosoi (disco) in reply to Jaloopa

    None of that generic stuff either - it leaves a film.

  • chubertdev (disco) in reply to accalia
    accalia:
    why are you buttuming that those drives were properly set up as RAID?

    given the layer of dust and general neglect of the Membrain i'd be more inclined to think it just has drives C:\ E:\ F:\ G:\ H:\ I:\ J:\ K:\ L:\ and M:\

    "What happened to all of my files on B:?!?!?!?!?!?!"

  • accalia (disco) in reply to chubertdev
    chubertdev:
    "What happened to all of my files on B:?!?!?!?!?!?!"

    someone ejected the floppy disk?

  • chubertdev (disco) in reply to Polygeekery
    Intercourse:
    Uhmmmm, why are servers not in locked racking? And why are cleaning staff not given the proper briefing before entering the server room?

    heh

    The front panel had a lock, but it was never used, because no one should ever touch the Membrain.
  • FrostCat (disco) in reply to accalia
    accalia:
    >chubertdev: "What happened to all of my files on B:?!?!?!?!?!?!"

    someone ejected the floppy disk?

    Naw, they're on A:.

  • accalia (disco) in reply to FrostCat

    well there are two of them in the case, no? the floppy spec says there are two of them. that's why HDDs start at C

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  • chubertdev (disco) in reply to FrostCat
    FrostCat:
    Naw, they're on A:.

    I don't want none of this fancy 3.5" technology!

  • abarker (disco) in reply to chubertdev
    chubertdev:
    I don't want none of this fancy 3.5" technology!

    How about 5.25"? 8"?

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  • FrostCat (disco) in reply to accalia
    accalia:
    well there are two of them in the case, no? the floppy spec says there are two of them.

    Was that specified? If there's only one (which in my experience was the much more common case), it's both A: and B:, and if you switch drive letters, you get a prompt to switch discs. Did you not know that?

  • accalia (disco) in reply to FrostCat
    FrostCat:
    Was that specified?

    no, but then neither was the existence of a floppy disk drive in the first place.

    FrostCat:
    was the much more common case

    aye.

    FrostCat:
    if you switch drive letters, you get a prompt to switch discs.

    aye

    FrostCat:
    Did you not know that?

    ah rekkon ah did. :hillbillyette:

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  • FrostCat (disco) in reply to accalia
    accalia:
    no, but then neither was the existence of a floppy disk drive in the first place.

    Sure, but it was implied by whoever brought up A:. If you have A:, you always have B:, which may or may not be the same physical drive.

    accalia:
    >FrostCat: Did you not know that?

    ah rekkon ah did. :hillbillyette:

    Sometimes it's hard to guess what you young whippersnappers know or don't know.

  • accalia (disco) in reply to FrostCat
    FrostCat:
    Sure, but it was implied by whoever brought up A:. If you have A:, you always have B:, which may or may not be the same physical drive.

    hmm... i'll give you that.

    FrostCat:
    Sometimes it's hard to guess what you young whippersnappers know or don't know.

    :older_woman: am I‽

    :man: I resemble that remark!

  • hungrier (disco) in reply to FrostCat
    FrostCat:
    If you have A:, you always have B:, which may or may not be the same physical drive.

    I've had floppy drives before and never knew about that. The only time I ever used B: was when there was an actual 2nd floppy drive.

    Also I don't think B: ever showed up in Windows if there was only one drive.

  • boomzilla (disco) in reply to hungrier
    hungrier:
    I've had floppy drives before and never knew about that.

    It allowed you to copy from one floppy to another. You'd get prompts to insert a disk into A: or B: at the appropriate moments.

  • hungrier (disco) in reply to boomzilla

    And all that time I was making temp copies on the hard drive like a sucker. TIL (something that will never be useful)

  • mott555 (disco) in reply to hungrier
    hungrier:
    And all that time I was making temp copies on the hard drive like a sucker. TIL (something that will never be useful)

    Just FYI, you can do the same thing with USB flash drives. No temp copies needed.

  • FrostCat (disco) in reply to accalia
    accalia:
    am I [a whippersnapper]‽

    Absolutely. Old fogies are the ones who decide. You'll get the package in the mail when the time comes.

    But I've said too much.

  • FrostCat (disco) in reply to hungrier
    hungrier:
    Also I don't think B: ever showed up in Windows if there was only one drive.

    It doesn't. It was mainly a DOS thing.

    If you open a DOS prompt and type b:, then it might appear in Explorer but I don't know and I don't have one handy. (I do have one, but it's in a box, and I don't think my current motherboard has the right socket.)

  • FrostCat (disco) in reply to hungrier
    hungrier:
    And all that time I was making temp copies on the hard drive like a sucker.

    TBH that might actually be faster than copying with only one floppy drive.

  • hungrier (disco) in reply to mott555
    mott555:
    Just FYI, you can do the same thing with USB flash drives. No temp copies needed.

    If you mean with both plugged in at once, of course you can. But the floppy thing is with only one physical drive, which is what I didn't know about.

  • accalia (disco) in reply to FrostCat
    FrostCat:
    am I [a whippersnapper]‽

    that was not the question i asked....

    look again. what emoji did i use?

    [spoiler] older_woman [/spoiler]

  • mott555 (disco) in reply to hungrier
    hungrier:
    If you mean with both plugged in at once, of course you can. But the floppy thing is with only one physical drive, which is what I didn't know about.

    I thought we were talking about systems with more than one floppy drive?

  • FrostCat (disco) in reply to accalia
    accalia:
    ook again. what emoji did i use?

    I noticed. I don't believe whippersnapper is a sex-specific, and I wasn't aware until right then that you styled yourself an older fox/woman.

    I find it easier <!-- warning, trollbait ahead! --> to assume every female on the internet looks like Hannah Minx.

  • chubertdev (disco) in reply to boomzilla
    boomzilla:
    It allowed you to copy from one floppy to another. You'd get prompts to insert a disk into A: or B: at the appropriate moments.

    I inherited my grandfather's laptop. It had a 10Mhz processor, no hard drive, but TWO 3.5" floppy drives.

  • accalia (disco) in reply to FrostCat
    FrostCat:
    Hannah Minx.

    .... who?

    FrostCat:
    I don't believe whippersnapper is a sex-specific

    not that i've noticed.

    FrostCat:
    you styled yourself an older fox/woman.

    if you can count DOB 1986 as older... ;-)

  • boomzilla (disco) in reply to mott555
    mott555:
    I thought we were talking about systems with more than one floppy drive?

    Logical or physical?

  • mott555 (disco) in reply to boomzilla
    boomzilla:
    Logical or physical?

    What? I don't know that....AAAHHHHHH!!!!

  • FrostCat (disco) in reply to accalia
    accalia:
    if you can count DOB 1986 as older

    I don't. :P

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