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The only problem with this is that every 24 hour clock I have seen has minute markers, presumably for this reason. This post motivated me to take a look on eBay and all the analog 24 hour clocks I saw had minute markings. The old Russian Raketa submariners' watch has minute markings but they are not numbered, but of course its main purpose was to show watches, for which only the hour markings are important. Many 12 hour clocks have no minute markings, so anybody used to identifying minutes by dial position only would have no problem transferring to a 24 hour clock. Of course, the old analog clock skills are becoming obsolete as people use phones for time telling, and I have noticed now that I tend to check my speed with my satnav rather than look at the analog speedometer.
[edit] - this made me look at my 12h Seiko mechanical watch and I noticed that the big marking is the seconds/minute dial with the hours in very small writing.
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English is a Sexually Transmitted Disease.
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I'm not sure whether I should admit that that's what I thought of, too.
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I've been saying this for ten years or more: I'm shocked Indian schools aren't hiring Americans and English people to teach Indians our accents. There's no way they don't know how annoying the stereotype of the thickly-accented help desk/tech support guy is.
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Everything is done as super-cheaply as possible there, that would cost too much money.
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Never mind the accents, I'd be happy with emails and bug reports that are comprehensible and somewhat close to grammatically correct:
This is the similar case [person] words out.
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It's specifically the Microsoft Live Mesh control - which as far as I can tell, does nothing other than come pre-installed on certain brands of computers. Usually only in about 6 languages though. I'm yet to see it present on a computer that has had Windows Live stuff installed after a clean Windows install.
Yes, I could Google WTF it does, but that would probably just make me want to uninstall the English one too.
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I don't see the WTF with the garmin?
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I'm really shocked that people in places like Brooklyn, Kentucky or Scotland don't speak with a Boston or London UK accent. Why aren't they hiring people from New England to teach them to speak properly? Your cultural insularity is strong. The problem is not that Indians speak Indian English, but that the Western companies that employ call center staff do not want to pay more for those who can speak the same version of English as their users. If there was a sufficient pay differential, people would learn.
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Shut up, you ignorant fuck. People don't like talking to people they can't understand. I once called Microsoft tech support and spoke to an Indian guy. He knew his stuff and he helped me out, but I could barely understand him. I had to have him repeat literally every sentence twice before I could understand him.
Not only is that a miserable experience for me, the paying customer, but how do you think HE feels? And if you object to that, do you object to call center employees taking fake American-sounding names too? That's probably cultural appropriation of some kind, except the other way, so people like you probably think it's OK.
I would say the same thing if the situation were reversed. I'm not saying "you should speak like an American all the time," just when you're working at your job that not coincidentally is "helping Americans."
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Language barriers are bad. We should take a Clavicus Vile-style approach.
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Perhaps before swearing and abuse you should try...actually reading my post? Where I say it is not the fault of Indians speaking Indian English, but of the companies that won't pay for call center staff who speak the English version used by their customers?
In fact you are agreeing with me in your second paragraph, you just don't seem to get that your complaint is with the tight fisted managers of Microsoft. Your cultural insularity lies in blaming the Indians rather than the US citizens who run Microsoft.
You know what? I actually read your post despite your first sentence. I actually bothered to find out if you had anything worth saying to record, instead of just assuming that someone with your poor levels of social interaction and anger management issues could have nothing to contribute. The world works despite, not because of, people like you.
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I looked, and now I cannot unsee that. There's enough bad real religions, we hardly need any more fake ones.
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When I see people spouting bullshit like this usually the rest of what they say isn't worth listening to.
And what I mean by that, since I know if I don't bother to point this out, you'll keep on in your attitude, is your smug assumption I'm some ignorant American. You should check your OWN privilege.
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My usual response to this sort of thing is this:
If that doesn't make the annoying people go away (or at least shut up due to the incandescent rage) you're saying it wrong.
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Or else everyone would have a roughly third-world standard of living.
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When I first read the title, I thought it said "ureter". Gave me a real pause...
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Shitlord thread is :arrow_right: :left_right_arrow: :arrow_heading_down:
http://what.thedailywtf.com/t/mlb-game-day-geltz-it-wrong/2950/116?u=boomzilla
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'hundred' is more for marking scheduled times.
So, see you at O'eight'hundred. Of course, that's more military talk.
Like I said, most people use AM/PM.
I'm curious. How do you end your times as spoken in Europe?
I use 24h myself, but it has less to do with AM/PM confusion, ironically.
No, my reason for using 24h, is because there is no such thing as 12:00 PM exactly. No, it has to be "noon"? It was more that the undefined time as time approaches noon that bothered me. Kinda like x/0 is undefined problem. That always bothered me. And so, any reason to avoid undefined values is enough for me.
Of course, with 24h, you still have one value that's questionable, but at least it's not two values. In other words, 24:00:00 doesn't exist.
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you also, if you have a first shift job and a sane sleep schedule tend to be asleep for that moment of "undefined" time
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This is of course before we even get into the problem of subtracting "seconds" from our time so we stay in sync with the solar calendar.
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x: Hold on, it's 24:00:00 twice. y: Well, which one, I don't know? x: The second one. y: The "second" one. I know, which "second" one? x: Who's on first! y: Gah, I give up. Screw science. I'm going to go into art.
Then time dilates based on speed and gravity. Daylight savings time. Time zones? Leap year.
Behezis, I give up. Give up I say. N'er more.
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actually that's not how we do leap seconds... at least not in well behaved implementations.
the official way is when we have a leapsecond we get an extra second named: 23:59:60!
DST on the other hand is a WTF
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So we do a leap second the way we do a leap year.
I have this lovely little chart on my desk that shows some output over time. Between 2 and 3 AM there's this lovely little spiral.
Above the chart is the words,
"Thank you Daylight Savings Time"
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yep.
except for google.
they do something they call a leap smear where they advance a couple of milliseconds at a time over the course of the day. has something to do with keeping all their infrastructure consistent with time internally, and being off by a half a second from the rest of the world isn't that bad...
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It really isn't that difficult to understand them. Gibraltarian's are far more difficult.