• DeeKay (unregistered)

    Outlook issue ... isn't that just showing how many items are "unread" (539) ... and the total number of entries in the Deleted items folder is 1010?

    That was the frist thing that came to mind.

  • (nodebb) in reply to DeeKay

    Recover 1061 items, or permanently delete 1010 items. What about the rest of them?

  • Darren (unregistered)

    I've no idea what the Tech Stack one is supposed to be demonstrating - is there some context missing from the description?

    As for the Outlook one, like the others I don't see what the WTF is. There's 1010 email in total in the folder, with 539 being marked as unread. There's 1061 that have been deleted from the Deleted Items folder that can be recovered (back into the Deleted Items folder) from the secret recycle-bin thing that Exchange offers.

  • (nodebb)

    Nope. 539 unread items in the "deleted items" folder, 1010 total items in that folder (all selected for deletion) , and a further 1061 items previously permanently deleted from that folder that are now in the Exchange server's 2nd stage recycle bin that hides behind local "permanent deletion".

    Why is there a hidden recycle bin behind local "permanent deletion"? Because of Mary in Accounting and Stan in Sales. That's why.

    Addendum 2023-11-17 07:15: Darren types faster than I do. Sorry to duplicate.

  • (nodebb) in reply to Darren

    The back end of that tech stack is 800%, the front end is 400%, etc.

    I assumed that the Outlook WTF is just the common weirdness of the answers to a yes/no question not being "Yes" and "No".

  • Michael R (unregistered) in reply to Darren

    Go to the website mentioned in the post. Please report back once you figured it out. https://hackajob.com/company/cgi#:~:text=Energy%20Efficiency%20Scheme-,Tech%20Stack,-Our%20tech%20stack

  • (nodebb) in reply to Dragnslcr

    The back end of that tech stack is 800%, the front end is 400%, etc.

    Yes, that was my read too. I would have expected each column to add up to 100% total, with the number next to each item representing its percentage of the total, as measured e.g. by lines of code.

  • Brian (unregistered) in reply to Darren

    I just figured it was from the trendy tech grab-bag. React and Angular? 7 different DBs? Java and C# (and Swift and Kotlin and Python and Scala) on the backend? I've worked in such an environment, and it's not pretty.

  • my name is missing (unregistered)

    I remember a job ad back in 2000's requiring 15 years of Java and 15 years of .net experience.

  • (nodebb) in reply to Brian

    CGI is an IT consultancy firm. Shirley they don't use all these technologies internally but rather have different knowledge centers/communities/... they want to staff up.

  • Darren (unregistered) in reply to Michael R

    Michael, rather than us all trying to guess the WTF - is it that the values add up to more than 100%? is it that they use several different yet similar products? - could you enlighten us with what you believe the WTF is? While it may be clear to you what the WTF is, it's obvious from the comments here that the rest of us just aren't seeing it.

  • Michael R (unregistered) in reply to Darren

    I am simply surprised why state a 100% at all. If they would use 80% of Java, which 80% of the 100% are those? Or should the 100% be somehow spread across all of their programming languages stated on the page? I hope the business person who nodded off that page knew 100% what they were doing.

  • Nick (unregistered)

    I think TRWTF here is anyone who expected anything different from a public facing “what is our tech stack” page from a non-trivial company.

    Sure, if you have a little toy project in GitHub, it can recognise your code, and identify that your project is 70% Java, 25% JavaScript and 5% CSS.

    However, out in the real world, a company might have multiple projects - some using one set of technologies, others using different tech. Quite likely the dev team lead just gave the recruiter a list of technologies that were in use, and the recruiter just filled in the form with 100% for each of them. Maybe the recruiter went back to the dev team and asked for percentages… but I know for sure that if I’d been asked that question, I’d have told the recruiter to stop wasting my time.

    As it is… it’s a nice little screening tool. Anyone who looks at that and is confused enough not to want to join my team… well, I’m pretty sure I didn’t want someone that literal in my team anyway. A reasonable question to ask in an interview would be “The Tech Stack you published listed X, Y & Z… how much of my time will be spent working with each of those?”… but a candidate saying “The tech stack stays it’s 100% React and 100% Angular, how does that work?” will probably end up in my “Too pedantic, won’t hire” pile (unless it’s tongue in cheek, or at least somehow recognising the silliness of the situation).

  • Neveranull (unregistered) in reply to my name is missing

    Most job descriptions require hundreds of years experience if you add them all up.

  • (nodebb)

    @neveranull: True.

    But looking at that tech stack page anyone who worked there a year would have gained 23 tech-years of experience across the 23 techs listed. Just 4 years of that and they'd have a solid century of real world experience. :) ???

  • LZ79LRU (unregistered) in reply to Nick

    On the other hand, such a complicated and internally redundant tech stack might also be a warning sign to developers interviewing. If your company uses multiple redundant different technologies that all do the same thing that is a WTF all in its own right. But at least that can be excused by saying each project has its own tech stack. But when you are interviewing for a job you are presumably interviewing for a specific position. And if a specific position and thus presumably specific project uses multiple redundant different technologies that means the resulting project is going to be a mess.

    So it's a red flag if you ask me.

  • Gearhead (unregistered)

    There's 1061 that have been deleted from the Deleted Items folder that can be recovered (back into the Deleted Items folder) from the secret recycle-bin thing that Exchange offers.

    Wait what, secret recycle bins are a thing? I have been trolled, by Outlook!

    Outlook: 1, Gearhead: 0

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