• (disco) in reply to Kuro
    Kuro:
    what I was telling you is that as soon as you can assume the rule / statement you propose [...]

    I'd call it a definition, not a rule. However, one might consider definitions to be contained in the set rules, so..

    Kuro:
    [...] has an exception it loses its character as a rule. The problem with that is that since its no longer a rule that a rule with an exception can not be a rule (because it is now a guideline), it is not being enforced on said (now) guideline. Effectively making it a rule again. But now its a rule that a rule with an exception can not be a rule... et infintum.... (or whatever... my latin is years back).

    You have essentially created a deadlock or a race condition (to speak in programmers terms) or simply a paradoxon. . I tried to create some code for that... but its too late... sorry....

    This argument seems to me to only indicate that the assumption that the definition has an exception is false. That is, you have shown the definition must have no exceptions because otherwise it leads to absurdity. (However, you could say the definition is non-sense or wrong or something like that. But that's a different argument.)

  • (disco) in reply to accalia
    accalia:
    the "Don't be an Asshole" rule
    That's only a guideline.
  • (disco) in reply to Scarlet_Manuka
    Scarlet_Manuka:
    accalia:
    the "Don't be an Asshole" rule

    That's only a guideline.

    It has an amendment reading "unless it's funny".

  • (disco) in reply to Gaska
    Gaska:
    A maiore ad minus

    FTFY. It also sucks to remember common Latin phrases and see them misspelled.

  • (disco)
    kupfernigk:
    That's A-1 as in the next size bigger than A0.

    Do you mean A1 which is twice smaller than A0 or is there actually "A minus one" size that is bigger? I don't intend to doubt you, it's just that I couldn't find any references to A-1 used in that way.

  • (disco) in reply to Gaska
    Gaska:
    The English language guideline says that past tense verb is made by adding -ed suffix to infinitive for every single word there is, except for this strictly defined set of words: (...).

    Since it's just a guideline, we don't have to follow it, right?

    @accalia rarely does follow grammar rules/guidelines anyway.

  • (disco) in reply to DCRoss

    Without clicking the link I know it's Monty Python's deadly joke of course. One can argue that taking complete nonsense was the best they could do (and they were good at nonsense anyway), because making the funniest joke in the world (let alone in another language) was something unreachable anyway (even for them). Still, even if you know a minimum of German, it's a bit less funny just because it's gibberish. A joke that would only have worked when translating it back,would have been nicer.

    "Einen Dyslektiker geht in einem Büstenhalter..."

  • (disco) in reply to obeselymorbid
    obeselymorbid:
    FTFY. It also sucks to remember common Latin phrases and see them misspelled.
    Well, [I](http://encyklopedia.pwn.pl/haslo/;3871011) [checked](http://portalwiedzy.onet.pl/23326,,,,argumentum_a_maiori_ad_minus,haslo.html) [several](https://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wykładnia_prawa) [sources](http://business.center.cz/business/pojmy/p1344-argument-a-maiori-ad-minus.aspx) [beforehand](http://www.proverbia-iuris.de/argumentum-a-maiori-ad-minus/) and still got it wrong. Dammit.

    Also: [image]

  • (disco) in reply to Kuro
    Kuro:
    The problem with that is that since its no longer a rule that a rule with an exception can not be a rule (because it is now a guideline), it is not being enforced on said (now) guideline. Effectively making it a rule again. But now its a rule that a rule with an exception can not be a rule... et infintum...

    Just compute the fixed point of the rule; that'll give you the ω-closure semantics and you can stop worrying about it.

  • (disco) in reply to Gaska

    NOREPRO:

    [image]

    Maybe Polish Latin is different. :trollface:

    ALSO [image]

  • (disco) in reply to obeselymorbid
    obeselymorbid:
    Do you mean A1 which is twice smaller than A0 or is there actually "A minus one" size that is bigger?

    Logically, A-1 is a size of paper that corresponds to something rectangular that is of area 2 m2, and where the ratio of the long to the short dimension is identical to the ratio of the sides in A0 (which is defined by standard). Logically, you could get two pieces of A0 by cutting a piece of A-1 in exactly half using an infinitely thin blade, though real paper doesn't work like that…

    I'm not aware of anyone using A-1 for anything much; A0 is large enough except for advertising hoarding use, and there they seem to just use multiple pieces of A0. I guess that A-1 would be annoyingly large.

  • (disco) in reply to obeselymorbid
    obeselymorbid:
    Maybe Polish Latin is different.
    Fun fact: there's a thing in Polish language that's called "street Latin", which is a way of speaking that every other word is a swear - usually "kurwa", but also "jebać" in any of its 60 forms, and several others.
  • (disco) in reply to Gaska
    Gaska:
    The English language guideline
    There’s a guideline for the English language? I’m guessing they keep it very well hidden.
  • (disco) in reply to dkf
    dkf:
    Logically, A-1 is a size of paper that corresponds to something rectangular that is of area 2 m2

    I gathered that much, logically. I can't find any usage of the term "A-1", however. The closest references I found were "2A0" and "4A0" sizes which I guess could be called "A-1" and "A-2" using this proposed nomenclature.

  • (disco) in reply to obeselymorbid
    obeselymorbid:
    I can't find any usage of the term "A-1", however.
    Probably because Google thinks this minus is superfluous and conflates it to A1. And if you search for "A minus 1" or something, it ignores the letter A.

    While Google became great in searching for words in the last ten years, it became terrible for every other form of text.

  • (disco) in reply to Michael_Mahn

    Not funny? Not funny? You’re joking!

  • (disco) in reply to Gaska
    Gaska:
    While Google became great in searching for words in the last ten years, it became terrible for every other form of text.

    Quotes around the term you are searching for usually do the trick. Regarding the search in question I've tried several variations including "ISO216 paper sizes".

  • (disco) in reply to obeselymorbid
    obeselymorbid:
    Quotes around the term you are searching for usually do the trick.
    IME, they don't help with anything anymore since circa 2012.
  • (disco) in reply to Gaska

    [image] [image]

    Not only it filters out 76% of garbage, it also saves 0.13 seconds :trolleybus:

  • (disco) in reply to obeselymorbid

    Maybe in this case. But I frequently encounter situation where it has no effect, or still looks for synonyms instead of the exact words I've written, or finds nothing and falls back to search without quotes.

  • (disco) in reply to Gaska
    Gaska:
    or still looks for synonyms instead of the exact words I've written

    This. NO, I WANT TO SEARCH FOR WHAT I SEARCHED FOR, DAMMIT!

  • (disco) in reply to Maciejasjmj
    Maciejasjmj:
    Isn't that standard state for a German?
    No, it is not. There are enough heavily government-funded university research groups on German humor to verify we do indeed know what humor means.

    So it is a VERY serious offense to tell us we didn't know fun!

    Maciejasjmj:
    I'm Polish and I think everything is funny given enough alcohol
    Maybe for you life-is-not-serious-business Poles. Alcohol in Germany means Beer, mostly. And look up "bierernst" (beer serious) yourself.
  • (disco) in reply to PWolff
    PWolff:
    There are enough heavily government-funded university research groups on German humor to verify we do indeed know what humor means.
    Polish govt spends tons of money on nuclear plants too.
  • (disco) in reply to Bort
    Bort:
    Full disclosure: I'm one of those weirdos that maximizes most windows.
    I used to do that, but then the bottom borders conflicted with the task bar in visually annoying ways, so I have been resizing my windows to the workspace instead. In Windows 2000-7 this is readily achieved through the following steps:
    • Start Task Manager
    • If the window you want to tile is elevated, then elevate Task Manager
    • In the Applications tab, select the window you want to resize to fit the workspace
    • Switch to any other tab and then back to the Applications tab (this resets the Windows menu)
    • From the Windows menu, select Tile

    In Windows 8.x you have to hope that you can minimise all of the other windows so that you can show windows stacked from the taskbar (assuming that even works on elevated windows).

    In Windows 10 they changed the borders so I can probably go back to maximising windows, which is a relief.

  • (disco) in reply to cellocgw

    [quote="cellocgw, post:97, topic:50140, full:true"] See xkcd.com/1190 and the forum thread thereof [/quote]

    [quote=the xkcd thread] Post a reply 94007 posts • Page 1 of 2351 [/quote]

    Oh

  • (disco) in reply to hungrier

    well.... that would be a fun forum to migrate to discourse.

    :trollface:

  • (disco)
    kupfernigk:
    The difference is, what I wrote is actually German. Small point, but relevant in context.

    As YellowOnline already pointed out, that's the joke. However, if explaining a joke once makes it less funny, explaining it twice can only make it better.

    That particular bit of mock-German (which is not quite mock Swedish) was used several times in the linked Monty Python sketch as a German translation of a lethally funny joke. Since I belong to on obscure sect of the nerd-cult which promotes encyclopedic knowledge of British humour from the 1960s, I thought it was relevant here.

    Speaking of which, could I come into your living room and explain how you could be saved by Our Lord, Graham Chapman? His love for you knows no bounds. Know what I mean? Know what I mean? Nudge, nudge. Wink wink. Say no more.

  • (disco)
    kupfernigk:
    The difference is, what I wrote is actually German.
    If you're talking about
    Wer war die Dame, die ich Ihnen gestern Abend gesehen ?

    Das war keine Dame , das meine Frau war.

    then you’re correct only if your claim is about the individual words rather than the sentences.

  • (disco)

    The REAL WTF is the fact that he could have made a set of shortcuts in each computer's C:\ drive and then had the desktop shortcuts link to those rather than generating them every single week... Windows should see the links to the links as valid and therefore not worthy of deletion.

  • (disco) in reply to Gurth
    Gurth:
    then you’re correct only if your claim is about the individual words rather than the sentences.

    Covers head with hood, shuffles off into corner and bursts into tears. The trouble is, I can't find any reference to the sketch in which this exchange took place. I think it was Michael Bentine, in the days when the BBC didn't bother to keep the tapes.

  • (disco)
    kupfernigk:
    Gay Liberation Front

    Gay Liberation Front? GAY LIBERATION FRONT? We're the Front for Gay Liberation. SPLITTERS!

  • (disco) in reply to urkerab
    urkerab:
    I used to do that, but then the bottom borders conflicted with the task bar in visually annoying ways

    Explanation? Screenshots?

  • (disco) in reply to obeselymorbid
    obeselymorbid:
    I don't intend to doubt you, it's just that I couldn't find any references to A-1 used in that way.
    obeselymorbid:
    The closest references I found were "2A0" and "4A0" sizes which I guess could be called "A-1" and "A-2" using this proposed nomenclature.
    The guy I knew who used the term "A-1" was an aircraft designer. Yes, they do use big pieces of paper. But thanks to mentioning it here, I learn that it's really called 2A0. I was duff genned...
  • (disco) in reply to obeselymorbid
    obeselymorbid:
    NOREPRO:

    Hence my comment above about Maoris.

  • (disco) in reply to kupfernigk

    Sounds like something I'd do in rebellion against the weird change in notation.

    I mean, just look at that. 4A0 and 2A0 are shamelessly inconsistent. Does that not make the perfectionist in you cringe a little bit?

    http://i.imgur.com/jtbU8gf.png

  • (disco) in reply to Bort
    Bort:
    Full disclosure: I'm one of those weirdossensible people that maximizes most windows.

    What else are you supposed to do with them? Why would you want to look through a tiny viewport at whatever you're doing? It makes sense to maximise most windows. Leaving windows small is what's weird.

  • (disco) in reply to anotherusername
    anotherusername:
    4A0 and 2A0 are shamelessly inconsistent.

    Um, no they're not? The naming perhaps, but A-1 and A-2 would probably be confusing, so they went with (1)A0 × 2 -> 2A0, 2A0×2 -> 4A0.

  • (disco) in reply to PJH
    PJH:
    Um, no they're not? The naming perhaps

    Exactly, the naming. Hell, the first number a geometric factor while the second number is logarithmic.

    PJH:
    A-1 and A-2 would probably be confusing

    I'll grant you that, from an annoyingly-practical point of view.

  • (disco)

    Am I the only one here who'd flat out refuse to work in a workplace where I'm not the admin of my own machine? Also, the fact that the only issue with everyone being a local admin was due to Windows being stupid, and not anyone effing up their machine, proves the policy was just fine.

  • SomeName (unregistered) in reply to Zadkiel

    Sometimes it's good. Sometimes it's not. For non-programmers there is (usually) no need to have admin rights. If you're a programmer without admin rights - maybe God have mercy on your soul. We have anti-virus that cannot be turned off, obviously that badly thrashes HDD making computer unusable. Everyone is stuck constantly cancelling scheduled virus scans. Updates are also mandatory - your PC will restart in 4 hours. No way to cancel. If it happens during the day you can do something, but sometimes you leave tests or something else running through the night and come back to find all work gone.

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