• (disco)

    spɹɐʍʞɔɐq ʇı ʇoƃ ǝuoǝɯos

  • (disco) in reply to kupfernigk
    kupfernigk:
    Not in the class of lawyer efficiency.

    Ugh, now there's something I don't want to think about too much.

    We're in the process of transferring one of our product suites to Apache (<blakeybait>it always was open source software</blakeybait> but we've grown tired of going it alone and want to transfer it for political reasons). As part of this, Apache requires that we do a transfer of copyright. Quite reasonable. We've got the agreement to do this. (The politics is quite persuasive.) Moreover, for everything that we're sending, we own the copyright, as we've been insistent on getting external contributors to assign copyright to us in the past. (The stuff that remains that has a confused copyright is not going at all; we're not stupid, and anyway that old stuff is virtually all shit by modern programming standards. Best practice changes over time.)

    But we've got to get our Legal to sign off on this. They were told about this in mid-October. Last week, we asked WTF was going on, where was that signature. Their response was approximately “well, I suppose we could expedite writing a draft of a courtesy letter to send to all the funding agencies that funded the work by these external people to see if they're really really OK with us doing this, and I can let you have the draft of that letter to look over in a few weeks.”

    The :wtf: emoji does not really summarise our response to this, though it is perhaps closest of the ones available. Most of my colleagues are pretty mild-mannered, but this just got several of them to utter the first Belgium words I've ever heard them utter.

    We're not happy. But at least we're not paying Legal by the hour. If we were, we'd be breaking out the steel-tipped whip by now…

  • (disco) in reply to Keith
    Keith:
    And according to Wikipedia, one of their most well known hits is "We're Not Gonna Take It".

    If @Eldelshell were an American a whoosh would definitely be in order.

  • (disco) in reply to hungrier
    hungrier:
    What are you thinking, of course they had me fax a signed form. Good thing my workplace had a fax machine.

    My guess is some kind of government requirement, like, if the prize's value is over a certain amount, they have to report it so you can pay tax. (Tom's Hardware has contests where they won't let people from Rhode Island (I think) enter because of some weird state law that causes more of a burden then they want to deal with.)

    Also, as far as faxing, last I looked, you could still go to some kinds of stores that would fax for you for a fee.

  • (disco) in reply to FrostCat

    You could say the same for many millennials.

    PS: thank $deity that 80s metal shit was over by the time I was a teen.

  • (disco) in reply to Eldelshell
    Eldelshell:
    You could say the same for many millennials.

    Probably. But I'd expect them to be more likely to be familiar with it than someone on a different continent with a different first language (IIRC?).

    Oh, hey, I just looked at your user card for the first time and saw your old-forum id. Hiya.

  • (disco) in reply to FrostCat
    FrostCat:
    If @Eldelshell were an American a whoosh would definitely be in order.

    They were big in Europe too; no need to hold back on the whooshes for that reason. It's more likely a generation thing, but I don't know how to turn that into a sufficiently convoluted movie title about religion and stuff, so I cannot post it in the right thread.

  • (disco) in reply to PleegWat
    PleegWat:
    Wait, charging per page for faxes outgoing?

    This is back in the days when you had to print out a paper copy and feed it into the machine. So yes.

  • (disco) in reply to Polygeekery
    Polygeekery:
    I am all for being a hardass on billing, but that seems a bit extreme

    This company supplied property developers. When I did my management course one of the things we looked at was property developers. They are the most under-capitalised businesses you could imagine, and work often stops because they run out of money. The Venn diagram of property developers and Mob has a certain overlap. And once the goods are part of the fabric of a building it is too late to get them back. So, you collect payment ideally before they have been used. It is not like a washing machine or an oven.

    When I worked in the plumbing trade, terms were 2% discount for under 14 days, and most people paid in that time. Of course, the potential sanctions for nonpayment are more severe than for someone supplying underground pipes; the bailiffs going in and cutting all of the shower controls out of a condo, for instance.

    accalia:
    hmm.... where does a company that after a couple of iterations of that stops offering NET30 billing and switches to COD fall on your scale??
    Class D. Many large companies do not understand the concept of COD. CWO, CIA may be possible and I have had at least one irrevocable letter of credit (from a company in Arizona we had never heard of before and which had no credit score). But anything that involves actual bean counters having to go down to Goods Inwards with an actual check...come on now!
  • (disco) in reply to redwizard

    I happily accept the title of Code Monkey https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7s8S7QxpjeY

  • (disco) in reply to tenshino

    Just a fair point to bring up, the IRS is actually a private company. The most powerful private company that is.

  • (disco) in reply to MRAholeDBA
    MRAholeDBA:
    the IRS is actually a private company. The most powerful private company that is.

    Oh boy. Get your tinfoil hats boys. Watch much Alex Jones? Are the Bilderbergs behind it?

  • (disco) in reply to Polygeekery

    This I gotta hear.

  • (disco) in reply to HardwareGeek

    Just look up "Prison Planet" on YouTube. It will be something from there.

  • (disco) in reply to Polygeekery

    OMG do you think they have gold fringe on the flag? THAT MEANS IT'S A ADMIRALTY COURT!

  • (disco) in reply to JBert
    JBert:
    You have to wonder though who would come up with such a plan, maybe it was a misunderstood joke taken serious by the financial department?

    Looks like a client trying to pull something.

    We've got a client who keeps wielding the stick of 1d4 Willful Ignorance. My colleague is getting hammer-fatigue from hitting him with the clue bat.

  • (disco) in reply to blakeyrat
    blakeyrat:
    OMG do you think they have gold fringe on the flag? THAT MEANS IT'S A ADMIRALTY COURT!

    I think I scared him off before he could even tell us that we are just sheeple and he is one of the few enlightened ones. Damn me and my hair trigger. This could have been a good one.

  • (disco) in reply to blakeyrat
    blakeyrat:
    THAT MEANS IT'S A ADMIRALTY COURT!

    Why are you calling yourself Esquire and using a title of English nobility? Do you not see from my three-cornered hat and hose I am very serious?

  • (disco) in reply to Polygeekery

    Maybe it'd be the one about how JANE BAILEY isn't the same entity as Jane Bailey and therefore taxes are being levied against the wrong individuals... or the one about how there's no law on the books allowing the government to actually levy taxes, therefore, taxation is illegal....

  • (disco) in reply to Yamikuronue

    Actually -- I'm more concerned about things like NetJets v. United States -- why, oh why, did the Treasury and the FAA never talk to each other when it came to taxing aviation? :facepalm:

    Oh, wait, it's the gubmint -- time to lower my expectations...

    Filed under: George the Dragon for FAA Administrator!

  • (disco) in reply to tarunik

    Bah, I'm way more interested in crackpot theories than real problems XD

  • (disco) in reply to Yamikuronue
    Yamikuronue:
    or the one about how there's no law on the books allowing the government to actually levy taxes, therefore, taxation is illegal....

    I'm partial to "what is the OMB Form number for IRS Form 1040?"

  • (disco) in reply to FrostCat
    FrostCat:
    I'm partial to "what is the OMB Form number for IRS Form 1040?"

    1545-0074 -- it's right at the top of the first page!

    At least the IRS has enough brains to comply with the Paperwork Reduction Act, unlike the USPTO, which has been quite obstinate about discharging its responsibilities as a well-behaved Federal agency...

    Fun exercise: time yourself at completing a 1040 and see how you compare to the published regulatory burden estimates. ;)

  • (disco) in reply to tarunik
    tarunik:
    Fun exercise: time yourself at completing a 1040

    long form or short form?

  • (disco) in reply to tarunik
    tarunik:
    1545-0074 -- it's right at the top of the first page!

    Oh, I guess the place I read that one must have been old or something.

  • (disco) in reply to tarunik
    tarunik:
    Fun exercise: time yourself at completing a 1040 and see how you compare to the published regulatory burden estimates

    My taxes have never been so complex it's taken more than, say, an hour to calculate, even by hand.

  • (disco) in reply to accalia
    accalia:
    long form or short form?

    Or the medium one?

  • (disco) in reply to FrostCat
    FrostCat:
    Or the medium one?

    not familliar with that one.

    there's the 1040, anf the 1040 witl all those other supplimentary forms you sometimes need....

    i mena if you are lucky you cna do the 1040EZ but that's not the same form.

  • (disco) in reply to accalia
    accalia:
    long form or short form?

    A form others can read. Pen, not pencil.

  • (disco) in reply to accalia
    accalia:
    not familliar with that one.

    1040EZ, 1040A, 1040. The A is a longer form of the EZ. You can use it if you've got (say) kids, so can't use the EZ any longer, but don't need to itemize or do other things that would force you to use the full version.

  • (disco) in reply to FrostCat
    FrostCat:
    You can use it if you've got (say) kids, so can't use the EZ any longer, but don't need to itemize or do other things that would force you to use the full version.
    The 1040A also lets you file for things like education credits/deductions, which you wouldn't be able to do with the 1040EZ. Including this year and without actually pulling out my past returns, I suspect that 6 of the last 8 years I filed the 1040A. (This and one other year, and for the forseeable future, will be the straight 1040.)

    Edit: according to this, about 29% of filers use the 1040A. (13% EZ, and 59% full 1040.)

  • (disco)

    Round here, they changed the rules this year. In the past, you'd have to submit your tax forms before 31 March trailing midnight. If you filled it in after 1 March, it would automatically fill in most details, and you'd only have to double check. This year, you cannot submit your form before 1 March, and you have until 30 April. It's always pre-filled.

    That's digitally, of course. If you really really want to you can still do it on paper but it's strongly discouraged. There might be business or special-case forms that are paper only but I kind of doubt it.

    The most WTFy part, and even that not very, is how you're supposed to sign it - username/password and optional verification via SMS. There is physical paperwork involved in obtaining those.

  • (disco) in reply to PleegWat

    Asterix called, you're supposed to go to the third window on the second floor for Permit A38.

  • (disco) in reply to Arantor

    I was extremely confused by this for a moment.

    Ooooh, Asteri x

    Sigh... I need a vacation.

  • (disco) in reply to Arantor

    I think I've read all of those albums, but I don't think that one was relevant for taxes?

  • (disco) in reply to PleegWat

    It's one of the Twelve Tasks of Asterix, where he has to go to the Place That Sends You Mad to obtain a form, and is directed back and forth around the place until he outsmarts them. Sounds like the form business here, really.

  • (disco) in reply to Arantor

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GI5kwSap9Ug?t=1m50s

  • (disco) in reply to Arantor

    One of my favourite childhood movies. After Cleopatra of course.

  • (disco)

    Pay for their UAT testing and bill it back to them with a mark-up.

  • (disco) in reply to Paul_Murray
    Paul_Murray:
    UAT testing

    *twitch*

  • (disco) in reply to loopback0
    loopback0:
    *twitch*

    You wanna get that twitch looked at at the ER room?

  • (disco) in reply to FrostCat
    FrostCat:
    ER room
    [image]
  • (disco) in reply to loopback0

    On the contrary, I thought it was funny, so you may not be amused, but we are.

  • (disco) in reply to FrostCat
    FrostCat:
    You wanna get that twitch looked at at the ER room?

    Will I need a personal PIN number to enter?

  • (disco) in reply to FrostCat
    loopback0:
    *twitch*

    The one that annoys me the most (that I never heard used in English, mind you, it's the people around me IRL), is LED diode.

  • (disco) in reply to Onyx
    Onyx:
    The one that annoys me the most (that I never heard used in English, mind you, it's the people around me IRL), is LED diode.

    That...is the worst thing ever. You should yell at people for that. People who say "ATM machine" would groan at that.

  • (disco) in reply to FrostCat

    Windows 2000, the splash screen used to say "based on new NT technology"

  • (disco) in reply to Onyx
    Onyx:
    The one that annoys me the most (that I never heard used in English, mind you, it's the people around me IRL), is LED diode.

    I have heard someone say, "light-emitting LED diode". It was hard to not waterboard them.

    Addendum: When I pointed out that they had actually said, their response was, "Well, the IR versions don't emit light. I mean the ones that do." :headdesk:

  • (disco) in reply to Polygeekery

    Infra IR?

  • (disco) in reply to Jaloopa
    Jaloopa:
    Infra IR?

    If they had said that for the second part, I would have waterboarded them.

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