• (disco) in reply to FrostCat
  • (disco) in reply to redwizard
    redwizard:
    Your desktop shortcuts are ONE CLICK away, on the task bar

    WIN+D

    Unless you are like me and told your desktop not to show icons. The you have to look for them in windows explorer.

  • (disco) in reply to monkeyArms
    monkeyArms:
    different users might have different preferences on how they accomplish those tasks

    Some users are Doing it Right, some of them are Doing it Wrong.

  • (disco) in reply to tar
    tar:
    Some users are Doing it Right, some of them are Doing it Wrong.

    Which is which is a matter of perspective.

  • (disco) in reply to redwizard
    redwizard:
    perspective

    Sure, that's what the Doing it Wrong guys always say!

  • (disco)

    Of course Microsoft wants to "help" you. It is like the expression "I'm from the government and I am here to help you."

    Run. Run fast!

  • (disco) in reply to another_sam
    another_sam:
    What it really means is a culture where failure is not tolerated. Since failure happens anyway, it is hidden and success is feigned. Without failure, nothing is ever learned, nothing gets better and failures continue.

    I read an article lately that references a book I should find the title of and locate, but the gist of it was that through machines and computers, our society, especially in the corporate sector, has been optimised for efficiency to the point that we have lost the human flexibility necessary to absorb failures.

    Which is why we can't take risks anymore.

    Also we only employ humans for jobs we haven't managed to make a robot for yet.

  • (disco) in reply to trithne
    trithne:
    has been optimised for efficiency to the point that we have lost the human flexibility necessary to absorb failures.

    Like just in time manufacturing - of hard drives a few years back when that tsunami hit, resulting in a major shortage of hard drives?

    There's your corporate "efficiency." That's why so many companies die in recessions - no capacity planning, DR planning or reserves to absorb mistakes or environmental {can't quite think of the right word...downturn? Suppression? Adverse turn of events?)

  • (disco) in reply to Helix
    Helix:
    What bastard admin puts shortcuts on the desktop? This means to get access to them i have to minimize all applications... or use the 'minimize all' button Microsoft had to implement because people put paths/folders on the desktop.
    Or you could activate the Desktop toolbar (right-click the taskbar, go to Toolbars and select Desktop). Then, whenever you want a desktop shortcut, just click the >> next to "Desktop" on the taskbar and you'll get a pop-up list of all your desktop shortcuts to choose from, without interfering with any of your windows.
    redwizard:
    That's why so many companies die in recessions - no capacity planning, DR planning or reserves to absorb mistakes or environmental {can't quite think of the right word...downturn? Suppression? Adverse turn of events?)
    Misfortune? Degradation? Or more generally, surprises - or simply changes. I think "downturn" captures it pretty well, really, but it doesn't quite convey the important note that these things are a normal part of the economic cycle and no business should ever expect that the current conditions (whatever they may be) will be permanent.

    Meanwhile, I'm saddened by the number of people who appeared to whoosh on Jaloopa's posts suggesting that this desktop cleanup process be handled by a wizard.

  • (disco) in reply to aliceif

    The only adequate option out of the three: Silver, Bubblegum, and Diarrhoea.

  • (disco) in reply to Scarlet_Manuka
    Scarlet_Manuka:
    Misfortune? Degradation? Or more generally, surprises - or simply changes. I think "downturn" captures it pretty well, really, but it doesn't quite convey the important note that these things are a normal part of the economic cycle and no business should ever expect that the current conditions (whatever they may be) will be permanent.
    "Why do we need all these safety inspections and protocols? They cost money to implement, they take up precious time, and we haven't had an accident anyway."
  • (disco) in reply to another_sam
    another_sam:
    It's Worse Than Failure.

    Like I said: Toxic.

  • (disco) in reply to Helix
    Helix:
    If you 'minimize all' application windows to see the desktop, now open say a (shortcut to) .txt file on the desktop, it's not possible to 'restore all windows'.

    Does WinD not do that (repeat to restore)? Been a while since I've tried to do that on Windows, but I thought it did. I have a "Show the Desktop" thingy pinned to my KDE taskbar, and I thought it worked like WinD on Windows. Actually, once you click on something on the desktop in KDE, your windows are restored.

  • (disco) in reply to boomzilla

    Opening a window overwrites Win+D's "memory".

  • (disco) in reply to aliceif

    Figures.

  • (disco) in reply to boomzilla

    Same with the shake-shake thing (which minimizes all windows but the one you're in).

  • (disco) in reply to aliceif

    Oh god, I hate that stuff.

  • (disco) in reply to boomzilla
    boomzilla:
    Does WinD not do that (repeat to restore)?

    yep. it do that. thats why i like it. no need to worry about your mouse. ;-)

  • (disco) in reply to aliceif
    aliceif:
    Opening a window overwrites <kbd>Win</kbd>+<kbd>D</kbd>'s "memory".
    It makes sense in a certain way, Windows doesn't know if you mean "Minimize all" or "Minimize temporarily"...

    I wonder how much Windows 10 might help though, reviews say that it has "virtual desktops". In this case you could open shortcuts on your desktop in a different "virtual desktop" while not touching your current window layout.

  • (disco) in reply to another_sam
    another_sam:
    Since failure happens anyway, it is hidden and success is feigned

    It's a classic example of the SNAFU principle.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SNAFU_Principle

  • (disco) in reply to JBert
    JBert:
    I wonder how much Windows 10 might help though, reviews say that it has "virtual desktops".

    It does. I've tried it just enough to verify that the feature exists, just now. When you win-tab instead of alt-tab, you get, in addition to the existing UI, a new band at the bottom showing all your desktops. I haven't used the feature beyond making a second one.

  • (disco) in reply to aliceif

    Win+M and Win+Shift+M work better if you need to open something from the desktop and want to restore your other windows afterward.

  • (disco) in reply to antiquarian

    My employer has as one of its core principles (paraphrased), "We tell the truth and don't make excuses." Another of its core principles is, "We don't tolerate failure." In spite of the former, the result of the latter is more "employees1 inevitably distort the truth of reports when dealing with their superiors" than I have ever seen at any other company.

    1 In this case, "employees" specifically means the layer or two of senior management just below the CEO.

  • (disco) in reply to Eldelshell

    That was one of the first things I asked them, they said something along the lines of "We have applications that require admin rights, and it is too complicated to give some people rights and revoke the rights of others, so we just gave everyone admin rights."

    Now imagine hearing that from the new owner of your company on a conference call, and not immediately ripping your hair out.

    -Woods (Nobody calls me Woody, that would be weird)

  • (disco) in reply to levesque

    Actually, I have been feeling a little underlearned recently, so I prefer to solve problems on my own before going to my "Toolbox". Google is really a last-ditch effort for me. I fully expect myself to already know the solution to every problem I encounter, or at least have some kind of idea for a solution.

    The difference is that I learn by doing, not by following instructions.

    Also, we have a really weird setup, it is fairly unique in that if there are ever problems, nobody on Google will have ever had the same problems.

  • (disco) in reply to trithne
    trithne:
    I read an article lately that references a book I should find the title of and locate, but the gist of it was that through machines and computers, our society, especially in the corporate sector, has been optimised for efficiency to the point that we have lost the human flexibility necessary to absorb failures.

    Which is why we can't take risks anymore.

    Whereas in reality failures will happen. The key is to get over them, learn from them, and get on with trying to succeed. Preferably by not repeating your failures from the past, 'cos that's dumb.

  • (disco) in reply to dkf
    dkf:
    Whereas in reality failures will happen. The key is to get over them, learn from them, and get on with trying to succeed.
    I have not failed. I've just found 10,000 ways that won't work. commonly attributed to Thomas Edison
    dkf:
    Preferably by not repeating your failures from the past, 'cos that's dumb.

    Some of us sometimes need to fail a few times before we learn. Too optimistic perhaps? "This time for sure!"

  • (disco) in reply to HardwareGeek
    HardwareGeek:
    "We don't tolerate failure."

    Then it follows that no one tolerates|is doing anything, since doing things inevitably leads to some failure somewhere.

  • (disco) in reply to trithne
    trithne:
    I read an article lately that references a book I should find the title of and locate, but the gist of it was that through machines and computers, our society, especially in the corporate sector, has been optimised for efficiency to the point that we have lost the human flexibility necessary to absorb failures.

    Which is why we can't take risks anymore.

    Sounds like a just so story á la that Gladwell fraud. I'm sure you can find any number of companies that match this and an equal amount that don't.

  • (disco) in reply to redwizard
    redwizard:
    HardwareGeek:
    "We don't tolerate failure."
    Then it follows that no one tolerates|is doing anything, since doing things inevitably leads to *some* failure somewhere.

    Follow-up Mandatory Dilbert comic: http://dilbert.com/strip/1995-01-15 [image]

  • (disco) in reply to redwizard

    Do not like the new minimalist+Infiniscroll™ look at dilbert.com

  • (disco) in reply to HardwareGeek
    HardwareGeek:
    Infiniscroll™

    TRWTF is other sites copycatting that WTF.

    Just wait 3 - 5 years. Someone will say: "Hey! I got a cool new revolutionary idea! Let's use paged viewing!! We can then control how much content is pulled on a single page, do away with managing the page load of Infiniscroll™, make a PREDICTABLE scroll bar to work with on the right..."

    Then TRWTF will be people complaining about Infiniscroll™ going away and why all the change?

  • (disco) in reply to HardwareGeek
    HardwareGeek:
    Do not like the new minimalist+Infiniscroll™ look at dilbert.com

    If they had a meta site, I bet some wag would suggest minimizing by removing the comic.

  • (disco) in reply to boomzilla
    boomzilla:
    If they had a meta site, I bet some wag would suggest minimizing by removing the comic.

    That wouldn't make much difference, as it would leave plenty for all the ads…

  • (disco)

    This is just one of dozens of reasons why putting ANYTHING on the desktop is terminally stupid. The original desktop (1984 Mac, for one) was there because , well, nobody thought it through. Under Windows, the desktop is an incomprehensible amalgalm of icons belonging to $USER/Desktop and AllUsers/Desktop and for all I know some other directories. Further, since you can't arrange your desktop by, say, ModificationDate or FileType, it's a terrible place to store files or shortcuts.

    Teach your staff to keep an open Finder or WindowsExplorer window at all times, and to have a folder there with whatever collection of shortcuts they think they need. Of course, since there's this thing called a Dock (or equivalent), it's still a waste of time.

  • (disco) in reply to cellocgw
    cellocgw:
    This is just one of dozens of reasons why putting ANYTHING on the desktop is terminally stupid.

    Sometimes I like to put a wallpaper picture on my desktop.

  • (disco) in reply to tar
    tar:
    Sometimes I like to put a wallpaper picture on my desktop.

    Sometimes I put [spoiler]fox[/spoiler] pictures on my desktop while posting them to Disourcse…

  • (disco) in reply to cellocgw
    cellocgw:
    This is just one of dozens of reasons why putting ANYTHING on the desktop is terminally stupid. The original desktop (1984 Mac, for one) was there because , well, nobody thought it through. Under Windows, the desktop is an incomprehensible amalgalm of icons belonging to $USER/Desktop and AllUsers/Desktop and for all I know some other directories. Further, since you can't arrange your desktop by, say, ModificationDate or FileType, it's a terrible place to store files or shortcuts.

    Teach your staff to keep an open Finder or WindowsExplorer window at all times, and to have a folder there with whatever collection of shortcuts they think they need. Of course, since there's this thing called a Dock (or equivalent), it's still a waste of time.

    I am not going to disagree with this; instead I will just say that I am super {triggerWord} happy that you are not in charge of any of the computers I use.

  • (disco) in reply to JBert
    JBert:
    I wonder how much Windows 10 might help though, reviews say that it has "virtual desktops".

    And they work about as well as you'd expect for a version 0.1 product from Microsoft. There's no quick method of creating a new desktop and/or shoving a program onto it (there should be new context menu entries like many other virtual desktop GUIs have).

  • (disco) in reply to cellocgw
    cellocgw:
    Further, since you can't arrange your desktop by, say, ModificationDate or FileType, it's a terrible place to store files or shortcuts.

    Weren't we talking about the Windows desktop? Right click, sort by, date modified (or item type).... Or am I somehow falling for some sort of troll type thing or failing at sarcasm detection?

  • (disco) in reply to FrostCat

    That's how it works in Swahili in any case.

  • (disco) in reply to cellocgw

    You're not totally right (you can sort on the desktop), but I share your loathing towards files on the desktop. On every OS with a (or multiple) desktop(s). I can only bear using it as some kind of temporary folder.

  • (disco)

    And for some reason the number of files on the desktop is directly proportional to computer knowledge. Not that I would make it a rule but it's very accurate with my personal observations.

  • (disco) in reply to Eldelshell

    Since i always disable showing icons on the desktop... What does that day about me?

  • (disco) in reply to accalia
    accalia:
    Since i always disable showing icons on the desktop... What does that day about me?

    It says "You are a masochist"?

  • (disco) in reply to FrostCat
    FrostCat:
    It says "You are a masochist"?

    .... ick.

    i was hoping it would be more like "i know how to navigate a file system to find things without having them constantly in my face and piled deep enough that not only can i not see that page 3 model that my coworker set my background to and i find too funny to change back but i also don't know what i have on there nor what i actually need to keep."

  • (disco) in reply to accalia

    There's a difference between putting 80 spreadsheet icons on your desktop and having a dozen or so relatively-commonly-used shortcuts to apps.

  • (disco) in reply to FrostCat

    that's what the task bar is for and jumplists (and windows search, Win+start typing in W7 and Win+S +start typing on windows 8+) are for.

    :smiley: also autohotkey if you are feeling really fancy.

  • (disco) in reply to accalia

    You can only put so many things on the task bar.

  • (disco) in reply to Eldelshell
    Eldelshell:
    And for some reason the number of files on the desktop is directly proportional to computer knowledge. Not that I would make it a rule but it's very accurate with my personal observations.

    Interestingly enough, I find myself treating the Desktop as "just another folder to shove stuff in" much of the time, because I almost always have it covered up by maximized windows.

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