• Tom Woolf (unregistered)

    Keep up MFD. The change to make the comic viewable in full view mode only should quiet those who want only to read of idgits or laugh at some other's code (because you know they'd never ever ever do anything so silly).

  • ferd (unregistered)

    Haha oh hey this still isn't funny.

  • M.C. Sarbanes-Oxalot (unregistered) in reply to Stupidumb

    No, I don't. My position is not one founded on a pedantic literal reading of the site title, but one founded in a desire to see TDWTF stick to what it's best at, and what people come here daily to see. That's real-world WTFs in development and IT. That's why we're all here. And this site does it the best. Let's not crowd out that enjoyable mission with this low-quality, off-topic comic.

  • greyrat (unregistered)

    HEY! PEOPLE! CHILL OUT, STOP WHINING AND GET OVER IT!!! If you don't like it:

    1. Make your own website
    2. Make your own website popular
    3. ???
    4. Profit

    Otherwise STFU. Oh and learn how to draw for yourself -- against overwhelming criticism.

  • Covarr (unregistered) in reply to jgoewert

    I read Wuthering Heights all the way through, and I didn't like it. If I'm going to read something by a Bronte, I'll chose Jane Eyre any day.

    What software are you using to make these comics? It's nice to see that you got a smaller filesize than last time, it's still unreasonably large for something of such little detail. While it's no problem for me, some people still don't have access to anything faster than dialup; an image with this level of detail should not take over a minute to load, even for a 28.8 modem.

    As far as the comic itself, I think it's pretty funny. Definitely better than a lot of other things that have managed to survive for far too many years (Will & Grace should have been canceled first season, it was terrible).

  • this webcomic is a wtf (unregistered) in reply to greyrat
    greyrat:
    HEY! PEOPLE! CHILL OUT, STOP WHINING AND GET OVER IT!!! If you don't like it:
    1. Make your own website
    2. Make your own website popular
    3. ???
    4. Profit

    Otherwise STFU. Oh and learn how to draw for yourself -- against overwhelming criticism.

    Wow, I've never seen those 4 steps before! You should try those on slashdot!

  • Emil (unregistered)

    Ok, all these complaints are starting to appall me. The ratio between positive and negative complaints is asymptotically converging towards zero. I think Alex and the others are doing a fabolous job with this site, and most of the criticism is just unfounded whining.

    As for the comic. Well, I can agree that the humour hasn't been top of the line yet, but hey - let's give it a chance. Most of the established comics that I read and love was of questionable quality in the beginning, but they evolved, and I think this one will too. Lets wait and see what happens.

    And George, don't be discouraged by all this. Stop making excuses and stand by your work. The internet is a rough place, and the satisfied people are generally considerable more quiet than the flamers. I, and a lot of other people, will be delighted to see how this turns out. :)

  • (cs) in reply to Tom Woolf
    Tom Woolf:
    Keep up MFD. The change to make the comic viewable in full view mode only should quiet those who want only to read of idgits or laugh at some other's code (because you *know* they'd never ever ever do anything so silly).

    Yeah good compromise for now, but I would still like to see something that gives us the option of what we would like to see on the front page. That would future proof all other new content.

    The way the site is going, it was a place to read just about weird things in the wild, it is becoming more of a internet newsletter with ads, comics, opinion articles and an interactive section. All this could be a good thing, but when you start getting that much content, the current format starts to fall apart.

    Let us choose what pieces we want to see up front and you prevent these kinds of things in the future as the site continues to grow.

  • NotAnEnglishMajor (unregistered)

    The interweb is such a wonderful place. What freedom!

    If you don't like the site, no one is forcing you to come here. STFU.

    Think you could do better? Great! You are welcome to try. I'll even be happy to visit your site if you do. Otherwise STFU.

    Dissatisfied with the content here? Then ask for a refund and you will get what you deserve. Nothing, which is exactly what you contributed.

    So STFU and stop whining.

    For what it is worth, I enjoy this site. Alex et al, please keep doing what you are doing. You don't need to change a thing.

    -NotAn

  • Formerly Barfing 4 Eva (unregistered) in reply to Now former reader
    Now former reader:
    I've been reading The Daily WTF for years now. It was bad when the content moved from code to poor excused for articles. Fortunately, I can ignore those. It was worse when they started running ads. Thank goodness for AdBlock! But now - this comic - that's it, I quit. This is my last comment, and, consequently, my last visit to The Daily WTF.

    For so many years and with such a deep connection to the site, he/she parts ways under the name of "now former reader". So sad. I can tell you, were all in tears to see you go... Really. Now that you, a former reader, has departed, I have no reason to continue coming to this site, I guess...

    BTW, I thought this was the best comic yet. Didn't care for the other ones, but I found this one funny.

  • mathmoi (unregistered) in reply to Now former reader
    Now former reader:
    I've been reading The Daily WTF for years now. It was bad when the content moved from code to poor excused for articles. Fortunately, I can ignore those. It was worse when they started running ads. Thank goodness for AdBlock! But now - this comic - that's it, I quit. This is my last comment, and, consequently, my last visit to The Daily WTF.

    I can't help but to notice that this place look more and more like the World of Warcraft's forums.

    And as they say there, quit already, no need to tell us...

    unless you're not really quitting. In every case, we don't care, so move along.

  • (cs) in reply to mathmoi
    Now former reader:
    I've been reading The Daily WTF for years now. It was bad when the content moved from code to poor excused for articles. Fortunately, I can ignore those. It was worse when they started running ads. Thank goodness for AdBlock! But now - this comic - that's it, I quit. This is my last comment, and, consequently, my last visit to The Daily WTF.

    Fine, I'm taking my posts and going home, so there!

  • (cs)

    Le sigh, all of those negative nancies seem to really hate this sight in general. Oh well, I still love this site and I still visit every day. I also dig the comic strip. You see, I appreciate sarcasm. Especially today's comic strip. I used to be a DoD contractor, and wow did that suck.

  • Anonymous (unregistered)

    I only come here once and a while. A few of the articles here give me a chuckle.

    These comics themselves aren't very funny, but I love the reaction they're getting. Christ, you people act like he's burning jews or something. What a whiny little bunch of nerds. If you don't like the comic I don't see what's so terribly difficult about ignoring them.

  • (cs) in reply to M.C. Sarbanes-Oxalot
    M.C. Sarbanes-Oxalot:
    No, I don't. My position is not one founded on a pedantic literal reading of the site title, but one founded in a desire to see TDWTF stick to what it's best at, and what people come here daily to see. That's real-world WTFs in development and IT. That's why we're all here. And this site does it the best. Let's not crowd out that enjoyable mission with this low-quality, off-topic comic.

    Is the comic really that off topic? May I assume that even it were funnier and within your threshold of relevancy, you still wouldn't want the comic here because it taints the purity of the site (to only involve user-submitted stories)?

    From my point of view, it's relevant (IT related humor) and has the same goal as the stories: make us laugh at all the IT ridiculousness that goes on.

  • Siegfried von Schtauffen (unregistered)

    Hey, I have an idea - how about separate RSS feeds for the various categories. I mean, some people may like this comic, but I wouldn't lose any sleep if I never saw it again, even accidentally.

  • (cs) in reply to Siegfried von Schtauffen

    Look guys . . .you're criticising MFD because it isn't funny but, but, was Krazy Kat . .'funny' ? Dilbert? Steve Bell? Robert Crumb? PBF? Am I the only one that thinks some/any of elliptical/whacky/thought provoking/whimsical/just-so-spot-on in some undefinable way that we tech-heads can't articulate/ - is reason enough? (um . . .somehow I suspect the answer is 'yes')

  • Bob X (unregistered) in reply to Now former reader
    Now former reader:
    It was worse when they started running ads. Thank goodness for AdBlock! But now - this comic - that's it, I quit.

    Actually AdBlock is quite effective at blocking the (not funny) comic, as well as the (no one cares) pictures of junk that people sent in to get a sticker.

    -jh

  • Bob X (unregistered) in reply to Bob X

    Yes, I am quoting myself...

    Bob X:
    Actually AdBlock is quite effective at blocking the (not funny) comic, as well as the (no one cares) pictures of junk that people sent in to get a sticker.

    The real WTF here is why everyone is complaining about the comic, which, though not very funny, is at least sort-of on-topic; yet no one is complaining about the gimongous article in which we are shown pictures of garbage from 'round the world...

  • (cs) in reply to Bob X

    Well, the whole raison d'etre of this site is pictures of garbage from 'round the world, wouldn't you say?

  • Bob X (unregistered) in reply to NotAnEnglishMajor
    NotAnEnglishMajor:
    The interweb is such a wonderful place. What freedom! If you don't like the site, no one is forcing you to come here. STFU.
    Very true; no one is forcing me to visit TDWTF. Yet, as you stated, we are in a free forum, and we may express our opinions about the comic and about the site in general. Simply because you disagree with me, you should not tell me to STFU. Unless you DON'T want it to be a free forum.

    Choose, but choose wisely.

    NotAnEnglishMajor:
    Think you could do better? Great! You are welcome to try. I'll even be happy to visit your site if you do. Otherwise STFU.
    That is a very childish response and is simply not the way the world works. Simply because I am not highly qualified at something does not mean I cannot recognize the quality (or lack thereof) of someone else's effort.
    • I am not a professional football player, yet I can determine that Peyton Manning is a better quarterback than Brian Griese.

    • I am not a professional musician, yet I can determine that Luciano Pavarotti is a better singer than William Shatner.

    • I am not a published author, but I can determine that William Shakespeare is a better author than Dean Koontz.

    Do you see my point? (Nothing personal, fans of Griese, Shatner, and Koontz... I hope you see what I mean)

    I may not be a published comic artist, but I can tell you that this comic is not very good.

    NotAnEnglishMajor:
    Dissatisfied with the content here? Then ask for a refund and you will get what you deserve. Nothing, which is exactly what you contributed.
    Not true... I contributed my opinion and a thought-out argument, which is more than what YOU contributed (i.e. whining).
    NotAnEnglishMajor:
    So STFU and stop whining.
    "Come in kettle, come in kettle, this is the pot... you're BLACK!"
    NotAnEnglishMajor:
    For what it is worth, I enjoy this site. Alex et al, please keep doing what you are doing. You don't need to change a thing.
    For what it's worth, I enjoy the site as well and have it in my Morning Coffee (great Firefox add-on, btw).

    But as I said in the recent poll, I like it because of the type of content that was on the site a year ago, and I am not happy with the direction the site is moving. But that's why there is a scrollbar (and AdBlock).

    captcha: ingeium (I barely know um)

  • Bob X (unregistered) in reply to chimaera
    chimaera:
    Well, the whole raison d'etre of this site is pictures of garbage from 'round the world, wouldn't you say?
    touche!
  • Bob X (unregistered) in reply to chimaera
    chimaera:
    Well, the whole raison d'etre of this site is pictures of garbage from 'round the world, wouldn't you say?
    touche!
  • (cs) in reply to KludgeQueen
    KludgeQueen:
    What kind of person would like Wuthering Heights? (And by the way, what does the verb "to wuther" mean anyway? ;-) )

    It's from the old English "woder", meaning "to give up half-way through for no apparent reason." ;)

  • (cs)

    I haven't found any of these comics to be funny so far, but I'm hoping they'll get better because I wouldn't mind reading a (funny) webcomic on this site.

    <criticism> The problem here is that it isn't enough to draw a few pictures of some old joke/sterotype/observation/etc. You have to, as Ezra Pound says, "Make it new," that is, you have to surprise us. Take for instance, comic 1.3. "Ha ha, look at the open-sourcer, he still lives with his mommy, lol!" Where's the new? When you have a guy like Richard Stallman running about, you can hardly expect such a bland representation of that group to be funny.

    1.4 is more of the same. Most of us already know that contractors get treated like crap, and instead of giving us a new perspective on how contractors get treated like crap, you've given us this weak doggy-door metaphor. I think something a little more concrete might have worked better.
    </criticism>

  • (cs)

    George: It seems like you are trying really hard to make sure a viewer understands that the joke is funny and why. And this makes the comic, well, not very funny.

    Today's comic had potential, but again it failed to offer a funny angle on your observation.  Don't make your point so obvious and perhaps that'll help.  Here's an example of how today's comic could have been better:
    

    [Panel One] Kid is walking towards a door that says "ACME, Inc. - Employees Only"

    [Panel Two] Kid shows swiping his access card on and failing, caption says "Hey! it won't open!"

    [Panel Three] Guard looks up at kid and says "First day?", kid says "Yah."

    [Panel Four] Guard points at previously unseen small, cat-door next to the regular door, with a graphitti scribble saying "contractors".

    That's it, no more words on it, no extra explanations.

    That's just out of the top of my head. But you see, I managed to put in the suggestion that the kid is a contractor, that it's his very first day, and that contractors suck so bad that they are not treated as regular people. All with minimal dialog.

    Cheers, -dZ.

  • Jon B (unregistered)

    I feel lucky that, unlike many other readers, I am not held at gunpoint and forced to read this site. Nor am I paying a huge monthly fee with a long term commitment. I also have the freedom to pick and choose which articles to read.

    It must suck for everyone else.

  • Steve (unregistered) in reply to Gryc
    Gryc:
    Makes you wish you'd stayed home and helped the "Cause", eh, Job-Boy? ;)

    ROFL! Good one.

    The comic strip is pretty good. Like most things it will improve with work and time.

    Ever see Gary Larsons first comics? (in some far side collection). That guys work improved a lot (to put it kindly).

  • paul (unregistered)

    this comic is consistently bad.

    can we at least have an rss feed that doesn't include this crap?

  • AC (unregistered)

    Meh.

  • Been There (unregistered)

    Keep at it, and don't let the negative commentary get to you.

    A new web comic strip is a lot like starting out in stand up - it takes experience to refine and its very hard to hit the ground running from the start.

    That said, constructive (hopefully) criticism:

    Try putting more time into the brainstorming when you come up with ideas...the door is okay... not exceptionally 'good' and was done on The Simpsons (as someone mentioned.)

    Keep at it until you feel you have something better than 'good' and qualifies as 'great' - then see if you can take it up any further.

    I'm sure it'll keep improving as time goes on, so stick with it for sure.

    Don't forget too, as this is a site that picks apart the worst of the worst code out there... 90% of posters are highly critical and vie for status by ripping on everything they see here. Ever see a newb make a 'I would have done...' response to a WTF? The poor bugger's solution will always be torn to the four corners of the Earth in the following feeding frenzy.

    This site isn't a democracy, so it doesn't matter how many people don't like it - many do, so I am sure it'll stay.

    Its basically the same as a newspaper...but newspapers don't have 100s of 'letters to the editor' in every issue calling to remove whatever section some reader doesn't happen to read.

  • (cs)
    The increasingly whiney WTF readership:
    Whinge whine don't like the comic whaaaaah whinge

    There, fixed that for you all

  • Owen (unregistered)

    When I was a contractor there was a policy at a certain mutual funds company that only EMPLOYEES were allowed to use the game room or gym. NO contractors. But since these were fairly open access areas as long as you had a badge, it was easy for contractors who didn't know the rules to violate them. One contractor got into trouble because the CIO (a total dickhead) saw him in the game room ONE TIME. Funny thing is, he was in there with somebody else (an employee), didn't even want to be there, and was one of the most straight-laced, by-the-book, hard working guys you'd ever want to meet. Nevermind, when it came time to renew his contract, DICKHEAD CIO said no. Glad I'm outta that place, but it was fun for a while.

  • (cs)

    I didn't initially see the Joke about the 2003 Year of Linux, but it is classic! The real WTF (for me anyway) is it is true. 2003 was the year of Linux (for me). My old computer had died. Windows security problems were mounting, and Win2k pro cost $199 at Microcenter. Right next to it was Red Hat 8 for $49. The rest is history.

    For those of you complaining about the artwork, check out the original Dilbert strips at http://www.dilbert.com/comics/dilbert/news_and_history/html/the_dawn_of_dilbert.html

  • jon (unregistered)

    Whatever, I like this comic ... The recruiter one is freaking PRICELESS!!!!! Screw you haters.

    The real WTF here is some of you morons aren't using RSS feeds to access the new content.

  • Jack Lukic (unregistered)

    Pretty inflammatory remarks for a comic that repeatedly muscles the same joke. Novelty is humor, surprise us!

  • k (unregistered)

    adblock this string: https://thedailywtf.com/images/mfd/*

    that gets rid of the comic. still doesn't fix the rss feeds.

  • Matt (unregistered)

    Some people will bitch if you hang em with a new rope.

  • Anonymous (unregistered) in reply to Jon B
    Jon B:
    I feel lucky that, unlike many other readers, I am not held at gunpoint and forced to read this site. Nor am I paying a huge monthly fee with a long term commitment. I also have the freedom to pick and choose which articles to read.

    It must suck for everyone else.

    Boo hoo hoo, they dun like sumthin I like.

    Get over it. Noone forces YOU to read these comments.

  • Annoyed Anonymous Reader (unregistered)

    I'm not one of those people who thinks that my comment must be heard on every subject or that I'm that important. I just want to break my silence (I'm sure that you have been waiting for MY opinion with baited breath) to let you know that I enjoy the comic.

    I'm guessing that the rest of the non self-important silent majority either enjoy it or don't find it necessary to post their opinions. I suspect that most of us understand that this web site is supported by someone else who takes the time to entertain us and that if we don't like a certain portion of the site, we can just skip over it.

    Heres a tip for those who are annoyed by the "clutter" that help to pays for this site in order to entertain you: Get an operating system higher than Windows 95, add a little memory to your system, throw out the 300 baud modem and invest in cable. Hell, even dsl will probably help.

  • Annoyed Anonymous Reader (unregistered) in reply to Now former reader
    Now former reader:
    I've been reading The Daily WTF for years now. It was bad when the content moved from code to poor excused for articles. Fortunately, I can ignore those. It was worse when they started running ads. Thank goodness for AdBlock! But now - this comic - that's it, I quit. This is my last comment, and, consequently, my last visit to The Daily WTF.

    I have no idea who you are, but I sure am going to mourn your loss. <<dramatic sob>>

  • k (unregistered) in reply to jon
    jon:
    Whatever, I like this comic ... The recruiter one is freaking PRICELESS!!!!! Screw you haters.

    The real WTF here is some of you morons aren't using RSS feeds to access the new content.

    you see who you have on your side, mfd-supporters? a guy who uses sentences like "Screw you haters." good luck

  • Kaninchen (unregistered)

    That needn't mean that George E. McDougall is Alex's boyfriend, or did he himself say that?

  • Regular user (unregistered)

    Well, I like the new comics and the variety of articles posted on the front page.

    Here's hoping all of these negative comments are just a vocal minority..

    Keep up the good work !

  • lolman (unregistered)

    As long as the presence of this comic is not at the expense of the other stuff, I don't see a reason to complain . I've seen worst comics wich were 'better drawn' the quality of art is irrelevant .

  • (cs) in reply to Anonymous
    Anonymous:
    The better version. [image]

    I didn't understand the front page comic but this made laugh out loud.

  • TheLoneCoder (unregistered)

    Hahahaha, this shit is so funny. Some days I really enjoy reading the commentary about your comic more than the comic itself. I mean, the COBOL cowbow, WTF... it belongs on TheDailyWTF... and then he has sausage fingers or some sh t (<- see the effective use of a space) wait a minute... maybe i should have written sh&ampnbsp;t to prevent some fancy shmancy html decoder of actually putting a space down. we'll see.

    it does not help to typed comments while you are stoned. get distracted too easily... where was I.

    yeah, i like the comic, who cares if it sucks. everything sucks. you can't call yourself great if you have not sucked once. all of you coders out there... when you started, did you not suck?

    give the guy a f&ampnbsp;ck&ampnbsp;ng chance. I think he has way too much time on his hands, but he gives all you lamo's out there a chance to blab out comments that make us !lamo's laugh histerically.

    TheLoneCoder OUT!

  • Iam (unregistered)

    I'm almost looking forward to the next pathetic iteration of this thing. BTW, "alex's soapbox"? Let's all get together and learn to be better microsoft sharecropers.

  • DannyV (unregistered) in reply to blue.lizard
    Now former reader:
    I've been reading The Daily WTF for years now. It was bad when the content moved from code to poor excused for articles. Fortunately, I can ignore those. It was worse when they started running ads. Thank goodness for AdBlock! But now - this comic - that's it, I quit. This is my last comment, and, consequently, my last visit to The Daily WTF.

    Oh no! Somebody who doesn't read ads - who comes here all the time, has been reading forever, and doesn't give anything back. Dude - you couldn't even take the time to register. You won't be missed.

  • (cs) in reply to Now former reader
    Now former reader:
    I've been reading The Daily WTF for years now. It was bad when the content moved from code to poor excused for articles. Fortunately, I can ignore those. It was worse when they started running ads. Thank goodness for AdBlock! But now - this comic - that's it, I quit. This is my last comment, and, consequently, my last visit to The Daily WTF.
    For, I hope, the second and last time, I haven't scrolled through the comments.

    Now former reader (unregistered)?

    Goodbye, my friend. You will be sorely missed. Does your little mousy grave have an address, just in case we want to send it flowers from 1-800-FLOWERS?

    Fare ye well, Algernon.

    This is not a sneaky advert, btw. I truly loved this guy, and I appreciate his withered aesthetics. There should be more like this.

    Oh ... wait ... one last thing. You mean you only visit TDWTF to comment? That's kind of like going to a whore-house and telling the girl that "my wife can do better than that."

    Have a nice life.

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