• The Rest Of The World (unregistered)

    So, is TRWTF that a political dispute results in loads of unrelated stuff being shutdown...

    Or is TRWTF the fact that no-one seems to find this totally bizarre?

  • Le Forgeron (unregistered)

    it seems 480 x 854 was popular display size, may be the one available by the manager of the Vampire, while the other test were made on a simulation dev kit.

    Obviously it was broken on display, so it had to be handled to make the boss happy.

  • Troy is the problem here (unregistered)

    No beta testing, just release VampMobile's Android port without even looking at it?

    "Troy, lead developer at IniTechMobile, should have known better."

    Yes. Yes, he should have.

  • faoileag (unregistered) in reply to The Rest Of The World
    The Rest Of The World:
    Or is TRWTF the fact that no-one seems to find this totally bizarre?
    Oh, I wouldn't say no-one. Outside of the US, a lot of people find it quite bizarre what is currently happening there re shutdown of government agencies.

    Then again: different countries, different ways to do things, so who am I to judge what is the right way to do things for a people?

  • faoileag (unregistered) in reply to Troy is the problem here
    Troy is the problem here:
    No beta testing, just release VampMobile's Android port without even looking at it?
    the story said:
    Because IniTechMobile was an iOS shop...
    ...probably all their employees use Apple devices.

    And if IniTechMobile think it's ok to outsource Android development to Eastern Europe instead of building up an Android dev team, chances are high they won't invest in a handful of Android devices for testing purposes as well.

    Nothing out of the ordinary here.

  • (cs) in reply to faoileag
    faoileag:
    And if IniTechMobile think it's ok to outsource Android development to Eastern Europe instead of building up an Android dev team, chances are high they won't invest in a handful of Android devices for testing purposes as well. Nothing out of the ordinary here.

    Totally stupid, but nonetheless quite plausible.

  • Troy is the problem here (unregistered)
    faoileag:
    ...probably all their employees use Apple devices.
    Well, I know a little Java, Troy thought, as he settled in for a weekend-long debug session.
    Trusts an outsourced team implicitly, so much so he can't be bothered to test an Android app before release, yet somehow he manages to debug an Android app when the devs vanish into the ether. Troy is the WTF.
  • QJo (unregistered) in reply to faoileag
    faoileag:
    The Rest Of The World:
    Or is TRWTF the fact that no-one seems to find this totally bizarre?
    Oh, I wouldn't say no-one. Outside of the US, a lot of people find it quite bizarre what is currently happening there re shutdown of government agencies.

    Then again: different countries, different ways to do things, so who am I to judge what is the right way to do things for a people?

    Yes indeed. It happens there fairly frequently - last time it happened was 17 years ago, apparently -- a mere eyeblink in the history of politics.

    Clearly it doesn't have a great deal of effect on either the political process or the economy or the US -- both are basket cases.

  • (cs) in reply to faoileag
    faoileag:
    Then again: different countries, different ways to do things, so who am I to judge what is the right way to do things for a people?

    There's 2 ways to do things... The right way or "The American Way".

  • QJo (unregistered)

    I think I've established TRWTF here:

    "Troy, lead developer at ..."

    "Well, I know a little Java, Troy thought ..."

    Lead developer and he knows only a little Java?

  • (cs) in reply to QJo
    QJo:
    I think I've established TRWTF here:

    "Troy, lead developer at ..."

    "Well, I know a little Java, Troy thought ..."

    Lead developer and he knows only a little Java?

    I know a few (excellent) lead developers who know absolutely ZERO Java - of course they work at mainframe shops <grin>

  • (cs)

    It occurs to me that AMWTF(*) in this story is the code-colouriser, which appears to think that identifiers (or at least their colourification) end at underscores.

    (*) A Mild WTF, duh.

  • (cs) in reply to faoileag
    faoileag:
    The Rest Of The World:
    Or is TRWTF the fact that no-one seems to find this totally bizarre?
    Oh, I wouldn't say no-one. Outside of the US, a lot of people find it quite bizarre what is currently happening there re shutdown of government agencies.

    Then again: different countries, different ways to do things, so who am I to judge what is the right way to do things for a people?

    Exactly. It's not like the Americans are constantly complaining about politics in, say, Europe, unless so provoked. Which is not something that can be said of the Europeans.

    Saw some interesting comments the past few days. One of them, that Syria is in the middle of a civil war, and yet it still manages to pay its public servants. The other one was that the Americans are still rich enough to be able to afford such shenanigans.

    Oh, and as for the article, I can see that a pretty bare story would need to be embellished; what I'm not convinced about is that it is an actual improvement.

  • (cs)

    TRWTF is lazy nationalistic stereotyping by the author. It's Romania, so let's get some werewolves and vampires in the story because, without them, it's a single paragraph WTF and not worthy of the front page.

    Not quite as bad as the terrible Scottish diatribe from a few months back, but just as lazy

    Still, at least Romania and Scotland can manage to get their budgets passed, despite being riddle with whisky, vampires, haggis and werewolves

  • Party Animal (unregistered) in reply to skotl
    skotl:
    ...whisky, vampires, haggis and werewolves...

    Sounds like a wild night out!

  • Smug Unix User (unregistered)

    You get what you pay for.

  • J. Random PMP (unregistered) in reply to Party Animal
    Party Animal:
    skotl:
    ...whisky, vampires, haggis and werewolves...

    Sounds like a wild night out!

    Really? Sounds more like a typical Wednesday evening to me.

  • Andrew (unregistered) in reply to tin
    tin:
    faoileag:
    Then again: different countries, different ways to do things, so who am I to judge what is the right way to do things for a people?

    There's 3 ways to do things... The right way, "The American Way", and the Max Power way.

    FTFY

  • Leo (unregistered) in reply to Party Animal
    skotl:
    whisky, vampires, haggis and werewolves...

    In fact, forget the app!

  • faoileag (unregistered) in reply to QJo
    QJo:
    I think I've established TRWTF here: "Troy, lead developer at ..." "Well, I know a little Java, Troy thought ..." Lead developer and he knows only a little Java?
    the story said:
    Troy, lead developer at IniTechMobile ... an iOS shop
    A lead developer at an iOS shop would have to be good at Objective C, not Java.

    TRWTF is not being able to see further than one's own limited experience as to what qualifies a developer for his job.

  • faoileag (unregistered) in reply to Party Animal
    Party Animal:
    skotl:
    ...whisky, vampires, haggis and werewolves...
    Sounds like a wild night out!
    "It all starts in a scottish pub. Party Animal has a plate of Haggis Neeps & Tatties and had washes it down with beer. When the live music starts, he dances with some romanian girls from a "Haggis" tour who share a room at a local B&B. The girls have to leave early and though and Party Animal has a few whiskies to fend off the sudden rush of loneliness. When the pub closes, he decides to rough it and builds up his tent in the moor further down the road. In the middle of the night he is woken by the howling of wolves... getting out of the tent in the light of the full moon he sees that he is surrounded by werewolves. Just when these are about to attack, the romanian girls appear and slaughter them all. As Party Animal is about to thank them, one of the girls turns to him, opening her mouth and displaying here vampire teeth..."

    Yeah, definitely. A night one certainly wouldn't want to miss! ;-)

  • Party Animal (unregistered) in reply to faoileag
    faoileag:
    <something way more interesting than normally happens to me>
    Any chance you could replace the writers on the sitcom that is my existence?
  • Jim (unregistered) in reply to tin
    tin:
    faoileag:
    Then again: different countries, different ways to do things, so who am I to judge what is the right way to do things for a people?

    There's 2 ways to do things... The right way or "The American Way".

    The way I heard it was from an engineering friend: "there are three ways to do anything: the right way, the wrong way and the French way!" :-)

  • (cs)

    TRWTF is lack of acceptance testing.

  • faoileag (unregistered) in reply to Party Animal
    Party Animal:
    faoileag:
    <something way more interesting than normally happens to me>
    Any chance you could replace the writers on the sitcom that is my existence?
    Erm, you are absolutely sure you want that?

    Ok, then your signature in blood on this parchment here will be needed.

    Any special requirements? Dragons? Aliens? Princesses?

  • (cs) in reply to tin
    tin:
    faoileag:
    Then again: different countries, different ways to do things, so who am I to judge what is the right way to do things for a people?

    There's 2 ways to do things... The right way or "The American Way".

    • There are
  • Popeye (unregistered)

    There are two ways of doing things the american way and the duhhh uhhh duuhhh uhhh american way

  • ¯\(°_o)/¯ I DUNNO LOL (unregistered)
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  • Ema (unregistered) in reply to skotl

    I know, right?

    Another real WTF is that we don't even have a werewolf folklore... vampires, yes, but werewolf mythology is not found in Eastern Europe - methinks somebody watched too muh Twilight.

    We don't do whiskey, either; first off, you need peat for proper whiskey, and second, we're more fond of wines and fruit alcohol (ocasionally doubly refined). Grain alcohol is not held in high regard. Haggis is sorta on topic, there is a local equivalent made from pig.

    The more you know :P

  • (cs)

    I generally write desktop applications for Windows and Linux in a variety of languages, as the needs dictate. I also do web-programming, using HTML and Perl on the server-side and Javascript for the client-side. My Java is really rusty, but I can still read it because of all the work I do in C++ and C#.

    This kind of this can happen when marketing sets hard release dates based on the optimistic estimates coming from R&D. Project management finds that when something runs late, like the outsourcing they have no control over, they have to start trimming other important parts of the process, like thorough alpha and beta testing. When project management goes to the guys running the release schedule to say "We need to push things back a month or so because the outsourced development took 3 weeks too long," they get told that they will miss the window of opportunity and besides all the marketing is already set for the original release date. You will have to trim something and will issue patches for any small problems that occur. I have heard that one before.

    What gets me is that you outsource the development of a program to another company, when you do not have in-house expertise; this is fine. But you do not review the code when you have access to the source code and enough ability to at least read it. This is the real WTF. The amount of liability this opens you up to is absolutely incredible. A code review will show you so much more about potential problems than even good alpha and beta testing will.

    A logic bomb that does not activate until January 1st or February 29 will not show up during your beta test in the middle of September. A small hunk of debug code will not be noticed during a week's beta testing when the program calls "home" once a month to send your personal details and activity logs. In fact, it probably not be noticed until a third-party application firewall pops up and asks if you want to let this application to have access to the internet.

    Now admittedly, a code review will require more expertise and more time than just putting a couple of management types in front of the application to test it in ways the programmers did not think of because they weren't in the specs the same executives signed off on. But you have developers that can read the code, even if they can't write it.

    Oh, that's right, you don't have enough flexibility in your schedule to allow for proper review. Make sure the lawyers are on speed-dial.

  • (cs) in reply to QJo
    QJo:
    I think I've established TRWTF here:

    "Troy, lead developer at ..."

    "Well, I know a little Java, Troy thought ..."

    Lead developer and he knows only a little Java?

    Fact worth knowing (but totally made-up): Being an Ayn-Rand-fan, Steve Jobs decided that the language of choice for iOs is Objective-C!

  • (cs) in reply to J. Random PMP
    J. Random PMP:
    Party Animal:
    skotl:
    ...whisky, vampires, haggis and werewolves...

    Sounds like a wild night out!

    Really? Sounds more like a typical Wednesday evening to me.
    Tuesday! Don't confuse your tropes!

  • (cs) in reply to tin
    tin:
    There's 2 ways to do things... The right way or "The American Way".

    "You can always count on Americans to do the right thing - after they have exhausted every other option."

    -- Sir Winston Churchill (It's his, even if he didn't really say it and it was actually a variation of a statement made by Abba Eban two years after SWC died. Quotations are funny that way, and the question is not whether you can make them mean so many different things, but which is to be master — that's all.)

  • (cs) in reply to Popeye
    Popeye:
    There are two ways of doing things the american way and the duhhh uhhh duuhhh uhhh 'murican way
    FTFY
  • (cs)

    TRWTF is this site promoting the extremely bullshit idea (ideal?) that one dude can work a bit over a weekend and solve everything. Don't feed into it.

  • Fandroid (unregistered)

    So TRWTF is iOS, amirite?

  • Very Hardworking Dude (unregistered) in reply to notchulance
    notchulance:
    TRWTF is this site promoting the extremely bullshit idea (ideal?) that one dude can work a bit over a weekend and solve everything. Don't feed into it.

    Well, I know I can, but I expect you wouldn't be able to.

  • (cs) in reply to Troy is the problem here
    1. Outsourcing to an Eastern European company. How did they find this company? I'm guessing Google.
    2. The company specializes in iOS to Android conversions. How do you know? By reading the company's website. And we know that no one can lie on the internet, right?
    3. It's clearly a tight schedule; so the conversion company is not given enough time to get it right; and the VampMobile company does not have enough time to do testing before releasing it.
    4. SOMEONE at VampMobile should have done some basic testing before putting it in the store. If they had, the WTF story would have been more like:

    A) VM hires some Eastern European company they found on the internet to do the conversion. Maybe they were actually competent, maybe not. VM doesn't give them enough time to do a competent job anyway.

    B) VM discovers that the android conversion is crap.

    C) The guy who hired the conversion company is fired.

    D) VM scrambles to find a competent US company to do another conversion. This is done on even a shorter, tighter timeframe, costing 10 times as much as the previous effort.

    E) Now we are finally at the point where the app is put into the store. What do the users think?

    That would have been a better story I think.

  • J. Strange (unregistered) in reply to Ema
    Ema:
    I know, right?

    Another real WTF is that we don't even have a werewolf folklore... vampires, yes, but werewolf mythology is not found in Eastern Europe - methinks somebody watched too muh Twilight.

    We don't do whiskey, either; first off, you need peat for proper whiskey, and second, we're more fond of wines and fruit alcohol (ocasionally doubly refined). Grain alcohol is not held in high regard. Haggis is sorta on topic, there is a local equivalent made from pig.

    The more you know :P

    The references to haggis and whiskey were from the conflation of Scottish stereotypes with Romanian ones, not pertinent to Romanian stereotypes themselves. Just like a Romanian to have poor reading comprehension. ;)

  • sunnyboy (unregistered) in reply to skotl
    skotl:
    TRWTF is lazy nationalistic stereotyping by the author. It's Romania, so let's get some werewolves and vampires in the story because, without them, it's a single paragraph WTF and not worthy of the front page.

    Not quite as bad as the terrible Scottish diatribe from a few months back, but just as lazy

    Still, at least Romania and Scotland can manage to get their budgets passed, despite being riddle with whisky, vampires, haggis and werewolves

    Let's just be thankful no ninja's were introduced in the telling of this lame-o story.

    Also, as hollow-weeny month has now started, expect this level of barrel scraping for some time.

  • anon (unregistered)

    TRWTF is that they used a csharp syntax highlighter when the code is in java.

  • (cs)

    -- Werewolf?

    -- There Wolf!

  • vali1005 (unregistered) in reply to skotl
    skotl:
    TRWTF is lazy nationalistic stereotyping by the author. It's Romania, so let's get some werewolves and vampires in the story because, without them, it's a single paragraph WTF and not worthy of the front page.

    Since when is "lazy nationalistic stereotyping" about non-existent creatures? If the author wants to add werewolves to the Romanian landscape, by all means, have at it, it's not like we're ammasing riches from the invented vampire folklore gifted to us, the Romanians, by Bram Stoker.

    To the author, Erik Gern, please post the "Romanian" parts of the code...I want to see how the kids in my country are doing these days :)

    CAPTCHA: quibus, "Let's not quibus over petty facts..."

  • (cs) in reply to faoileag
    faoileag:
    Party Animal:
    faoileag:
    <something way more interesting than normally happens to me>
    Any chance you could replace the writers on the sitcom that is my existence?
    Erm, you are absolutely sure you want that?

    Ok, then your signature in blood on this parchment here will be needed.

    Any special requirements? Dragons? Aliens? Princesses?

    Alien dragon princesses!

  • (cs) in reply to no laughing matter
    no laughing matter:
    QJo:
    I think I've established TRWTF here:

    "Troy, lead developer at ..."

    "Well, I know a little Java, Troy thought ..."

    Lead developer and he knows only a little Java?

    Fact worth knowing (but totally made-up): Being an Ayn-Rand-fan, Steve Jobs decided that the language of choice for iOs is Objective-C!

    If that was true, he'd be using Objectivist-C, wouldn't he? ;)

  • (cs)
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  • (cs)

    goran

  • faoileag (unregistered) in reply to Mason Wheeler
    Mason Wheeler:
    faoileag:
    Party Animal:
    faoileag:
    <something way more interesting than normally happens to me>
    Any chance you could replace the writers on the sitcom that is my existence?
    Erm, you are absolutely sure you want that?

    Ok, then your signature in blood on this parchment here will be needed.

    Any special requirements? Dragons? Aliens? Princesses?

    Alien dragon princesses!

    "Mason awoke in a dark room, alone in a double bed. Where had the romanian girls gone? He tried to remember the afternoon, but all he could muster was a kaleidoscope of very intense, very pleasurable moments. And something involving his neck, but he couldn't put his finger on exactly what. Thinking of that, his neck did hurt. He touched it and came back with what in the moonlight looked liked blood on his fingertips.

    He sighed. Probably had drawn a splinter from the old bed. He stood up and tried to switch on the light. Nothing. He sweared. Bloody foreign electricity! When he was dressed, he ventured outside the room. Less light here and even less electricity. He carefully followed down what appeared to be a steep staircase.

    Standing in the entrance hall, he could help but feel that the house was not only empty but abandoned. I chill went down his spine.

    Then he heard it. Very faint laughter. Very faint, very pleasant laughter. He turned his head this way and that trying to pin the direction it was coming from. It was then that he saw the faint line of light under the cellar door.

    Opening it he could hear the laughter more clearly. A longing arouse in his heart and without further thinking he went down the dimly lit and surprisingly long staircase. At their end, a corridor opened to his right. The light was coming from a room at the end of the corridor. He followed the corridor like a sleep walker, his brain getting more and more mushy with every new chime of laughter.

    Then he turned a corner and stood at the entrance of the room. Party Animal was there, dancing with the romanian girls. This would normally have triggered a bout of jealousy, but not this time. For his eyes were immediately captured by the woman in the center of the room: leathery skin of deep green with a small glittering crown on the reptile huge head and what looked like a laser gun in her hand. The alien dragon princess!

    The alien dragon princess seemed to have sensed his presence; she slowly turned her head, looked at Mason and with a voice to drive a thousand men into madness said: 'Welcome, Mason, to my lair!'

    And Mason knew he was lost foever"

  • (cs)

    VampMobile sucks your blood!

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